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So would icabbles said:
Now we’re talking. If we haven’t made an offer to re-sign him, this is the sort of pragmatic action (or in-action) we need. Obviously can’t read too much into this, but if we haven’t offered him a contract, I’d be pleasedCallumcafc said:1 -
JFC is one of our highest earners currently. About 5K I believe. He benefited from a promotion wage rise, relegation wage drop was significantly less.Cafc43v3r said:
It should be a one year extension to his current contract, remember that was originally signed at the start of Roland's austerity, and has already been rolled over twice. It won't be that much.Leeds_Addick said:I really hope we haven't taken advantage of his injury situation and offered him a measly contract with the knowledge he'll struggle to sign elsewhere2 -
I think ‘now we’re talking’ was probably the wrong choice of words given his injury, so I take that back if it sounded harsh. I simply don’t think he’s all that, even when fully fit. I recognise I’m in the minority, given he got player of the year. I recognise that for many, he could be part of a promotion winning team if he has better players around him, but I just think we need to be aiming higher. I truly believe he got player of the year because the quality was relatively low last year. He’s a great pro, applies himself, is popular among the squad etc etc, but we need better.blackpool72 said:
So would icabbles said:
Now we’re talking. If we haven’t made an offer to re-sign him, this is the sort of pragmatic action (or in-action) we need. Obviously can’t read too much into this, but if we haven’t offered him a contract, I’d be pleasedCallumcafc said:Even if he wasn’t injured, I wouldn’t be too fussed if we didn’t offer him a contract renewal. It’s the same with Gunter, Pearce, Matthews, Aneke, Watson. I don’t think these players are players capable of promotion. I really want to rip it all up and start again, however unlikely that is.This summer we have to be bold. No Williams or Cousins coming back, 10/11 new players that are young, hungry and have got a bit of fight about them. Stating the obvious, but just what I feel the squad needs7 -
RonnieMoore said:
Why window don’t shut till septCallumcafc said:The next two weeks could be crucial.
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He didn't get a promotion bonus because he was out of contract at the end of the 18/19 season and signed a year with a one year option extension in his current deal.Covered_End_Lad said:
JFC is one of our highest earners currently. About 5K I believe. He benefited from a promotion wage rise, relegation wage drop was significantly less.Cafc43v3r said:
It should be a one year extension to his current contract, remember that was originally signed at the start of Roland's austerity, and has already been rolled over twice. It won't be that much.Leeds_Addick said:I really hope we haven't taken advantage of his injury situation and offered him a measly contract with the knowledge he'll struggle to sign elsewhere
No way did we offer him a new deal on 5k a week then offer new signings 2ish k a week.0 -
Maybe the contract offer took into account the fact he won't be playing for the next 6-9 months.Leeds_Addick said:I really hope we haven't taken advantage of his injury situation and offered him a measly contract with the knowledge he'll struggle to sign elsewhere
Bit weird to immediately assume we're trying to screw him over.1 -
His LinkedIn profile is still as cafc player. Tho so is solly’s!0
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I also have heard the same,5KCafc43v3r said:
He didn't get a promotion bonus because he was out of contract at the end of the 18/19 season and signed a year with a one year option extension in his current deal.Covered_End_Lad said:
JFC is one of our highest earners currently. About 5K I believe. He benefited from a promotion wage rise, relegation wage drop was significantly less.Cafc43v3r said:
It should be a one year extension to his current contract, remember that was originally signed at the start of Roland's austerity, and has already been rolled over twice. It won't be that much.Leeds_Addick said:I really hope we haven't taken advantage of his injury situation and offered him a measly contract with the knowledge he'll struggle to sign elsewhere
No way did we offer him a new deal on 5k a week then offer new signings 2ish k a week.0 -
Leeds_Addick said:I really hope we haven't taken advantage of his injury situation and offered him a measly contract with the knowledge he'll struggle to sign elsewhere
Maybe Nige doesn't rate him and was going to release him or maybe JFC had made it clear he was not going to re-sign. In either scenario I would expect us to offer him a year or 6months to get better but at pretty low wages to reflect the fact we had not planned for wages to him at all.0 -
Lets be honest, even if it is 5k a week, if 260k fucks up "European football in 5 years" I think we might have bigger problems.doronron said:
I also have heard the same,5KCafc43v3r said:
He didn't get a promotion bonus because he was out of contract at the end of the 18/19 season and signed a year with a one year option extension in his current deal.Covered_End_Lad said:
JFC is one of our highest earners currently. About 5K I believe. He benefited from a promotion wage rise, relegation wage drop was significantly less.Cafc43v3r said:
It should be a one year extension to his current contract, remember that was originally signed at the start of Roland's austerity, and has already been rolled over twice. It won't be that much.Leeds_Addick said:I really hope we haven't taken advantage of his injury situation and offered him a measly contract with the knowledge he'll struggle to sign elsewhere
No way did we offer him a new deal on 5k a week then offer new signings 2ish k a week.
If we can't, or won't, cover that we won't be signing these young, hungry talents people think we need 15 of.
If we don't do that we risk having 6 or 7 Lyle Taylors on our hands every April.
Looking after JFC the person is very important, regardless of what you think of JFC the footballer.3 - Sponsored links:
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Or he's not seen as £5k a week value?Cafc43v3r said:
Lets be honest, even if it is 5k a week, if 260k fucks up "European football in 5 years" I think we might have bigger problems.doronron said:
I also have heard the same,5KCafc43v3r said:
He didn't get a promotion bonus because he was out of contract at the end of the 18/19 season and signed a year with a one year option extension in his current deal.Covered_End_Lad said:
JFC is one of our highest earners currently. About 5K I believe. He benefited from a promotion wage rise, relegation wage drop was significantly less.Cafc43v3r said:
It should be a one year extension to his current contract, remember that was originally signed at the start of Roland's austerity, and has already been rolled over twice. It won't be that much.Leeds_Addick said:I really hope we haven't taken advantage of his injury situation and offered him a measly contract with the knowledge he'll struggle to sign elsewhere
No way did we offer him a new deal on 5k a week then offer new signings 2ish k a week.
If we can't, or won't, cover that we won't be signing these young, hungry talents people think we need 15 of.
If we don't do that we risk having 6 or 7 Lyle Taylors on our hands every April.
Looking after JFC the person is very important, regardless of what you think of JFC the footballer.2 -
Doubt that's the case. Last summer the extra one year option was activated, but now his contract has expired we can offer him whatever we want really.Cafc43v3r said:
It should be a one year extension to his current contract, remember that was originally signed at the start of Roland's austerity, and has already been rolled over twice. It won't be that much.Leeds_Addick said:I really hope we haven't taken advantage of his injury situation and offered him a measly contract with the knowledge he'll struggle to sign elsewhere1 -
Well obviously not if he is injured!!!Dazzler21 said:
Or he's not seen as £5k a week value?Cafc43v3r said:
Lets be honest, even if it is 5k a week, if 260k fucks up "European football in 5 years" I think we might have bigger problems.doronron said:
I also have heard the same,5KCafc43v3r said:
He didn't get a promotion bonus because he was out of contract at the end of the 18/19 season and signed a year with a one year option extension in his current deal.Covered_End_Lad said:
JFC is one of our highest earners currently. About 5K I believe. He benefited from a promotion wage rise, relegation wage drop was significantly less.Cafc43v3r said:
It should be a one year extension to his current contract, remember that was originally signed at the start of Roland's austerity, and has already been rolled over twice. It won't be that much.Leeds_Addick said:I really hope we haven't taken advantage of his injury situation and offered him a measly contract with the knowledge he'll struggle to sign elsewhere
No way did we offer him a new deal on 5k a week then offer new signings 2ish k a week.
If we can't, or won't, cover that we won't be signing these young, hungry talents people think we need 15 of.
If we don't do that we risk having 6 or 7 Lyle Taylors on our hands every April.
Looking after JFC the person is very important, regardless of what you think of JFC the footballer.
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We have offered him a contract .... 1 year dealcabbles said:
Now we’re talking. If we haven’t made an offer to re-sign him, this is the sort of pragmatic action (or in-action) we need. Obviously can’t read too much into this, but if we haven’t offered him a contract, I’d be pleasedCallumcafc said:0 -
Imagine signing a player for 1 year knowing he might never play that entire year.Cafc43v3r said:
Well obviously not if he is injured!!!Dazzler21 said:
Or he's not seen as £5k a week value?Cafc43v3r said:
Lets be honest, even if it is 5k a week, if 260k fucks up "European football in 5 years" I think we might have bigger problems.doronron said:
I also have heard the same,5KCafc43v3r said:
He didn't get a promotion bonus because he was out of contract at the end of the 18/19 season and signed a year with a one year option extension in his current deal.Covered_End_Lad said:
JFC is one of our highest earners currently. About 5K I believe. He benefited from a promotion wage rise, relegation wage drop was significantly less.Cafc43v3r said:
It should be a one year extension to his current contract, remember that was originally signed at the start of Roland's austerity, and has already been rolled over twice. It won't be that much.Leeds_Addick said:I really hope we haven't taken advantage of his injury situation and offered him a measly contract with the knowledge he'll struggle to sign elsewhere
No way did we offer him a new deal on 5k a week then offer new signings 2ish k a week.
If we can't, or won't, cover that we won't be signing these young, hungry talents people think we need 15 of.
If we don't do that we risk having 6 or 7 Lyle Taylors on our hands every April.
Looking after JFC the person is very important, regardless of what you think of JFC the footballer.
He then tells you he wants at least a quarter million in pay and in addition to that he wants you to pay for his rehabilitation.
To be honest I can understand us not pushing the boat out in signing such players.13 -
I’m obviously missing something here. JFC is injured so has zero chance of signing for another club. Why on gods green earth would he refuse any contract from us where he would still get some money, even if reduced and get the benefit of clubs medical team. ?26
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Very easy to spend other people’s money of course !addick1956 said:
He was injured in the cause. I expect TS to look after that. Any decent emplocabbles said:
Now we’re talking. If we haven’t made an offer to re-sign him, this is the sort of pragmatic action (or in-action) we need. Obviously can’t read too much into this, but if we haven’t offered him a contract, I’d be pleasedCallumcafc said:4 -
It is the way things have always been, and the way it should remain. You look after a player who was injured playing when under contract with you.valleynick66 said:
Very easy to spend other people’s money of course !addick1956 said:
He was injured in the cause. I expect TS to look after that. Any decent emplocabbles said:
Now we’re talking. If we haven’t made an offer to re-sign him, this is the sort of pragmatic action (or in-action) we need. Obviously can’t read too much into this, but if we haven’t offered him a contract, I’d be pleasedCallumcafc said:I personally don’t think TS will have a problem with this.Probably cheaper than having the whole squad insured anyway.0 -
Valley car park currently home to five or six containers/offices belonging to South Eastern Rail Services and a mountain of sand.
No, I don't know what it means either.0 -
Henry Irving said:Valley car park currently home to five or six containers/offices belonging to South Eastern Rail Services and a mountain of sand.
No, I don't know what it means either.
“Inspector Sands will you please come to the Valley Car Park”Henry Irving said:Valley car park currently home to five or six containers/offices belonging to South Eastern Rail Services and a mountain of sand.
No, I don't know what it means either.11 - Sponsored links:
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I do love a train related rumour. Finally starting work on the spur straight into the Valley for those European football nights in 5 Years time choo choo 🚂.Henry Irving said:Valley car park currently home to five or six containers/offices belonging to South Eastern Rail Services and a mountain of sand.
No, I don't know what it means either.10 -
Considering I am at The Valley almost every day, I can assure everyone that it is not for the potholes. I repeat, not for the potholes.Henry Irving said:Valley car park currently home to five or six containers/offices belonging to South Eastern Rail Services and a mountain of sand.
No, I don't know what it means either.9 -
Its for all the new signings that you've seen arriving isnt it mate?Sage said:
Considering I am at The Valley almost every day, I can assure everyone that it is not for the potholes. I repeat, not for the potholes.Henry Irving said:Valley car park currently home to five or six containers/offices belonging to South Eastern Rail Services and a mountain of sand.
No, I don't know what it means either.
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I’d like to think we’re in the market to replace JFC as he’s out for certainly a large part of the season. I’m keen on Cousins. I understand why people aren’t convinced, but he’s consistently played higher, right age, knows the club and I think he’d fit the bill as long as he’s fit. Not convinced he’d easily get a championship deal where he would make the starting line up and Charlton may be attractive for him to reestablish himself in a winning side.0
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If SG is on hols then good luck to him. If anyone knows when he’s due back maybe they could let us all know so we can revisit the rumour thread then. In the meantime I’d rather look forward to the Euros and dream of the new HS3 link to Charlton.1
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i agree - i'd like to do the right thing by him but if we are trying to cut a deal and offload, i also take that as a good signcabbles said:
I think ‘now we’re talking’ was probably the wrong choice of words given his injury, so I take that back if it sounded harsh. I simply don’t think he’s all that, even when fully fit. I recognise I’m in the minority, given he got player of the year. I recognise that for many, he could be part of a promotion winning team if he has better players around him, but I just think we need to be aiming higher. I truly believe he got player of the year because the quality was relatively low last year. He’s a great pro, applies himself, is popular among the squad etc etc, but we need better.blackpool72 said:
So would icabbles said:
Now we’re talking. If we haven’t made an offer to re-sign him, this is the sort of pragmatic action (or in-action) we need. Obviously can’t read too much into this, but if we haven’t offered him a contract, I’d be pleasedCallumcafc said:Even if he wasn’t injured, I wouldn’t be too fussed if we didn’t offer him a contract renewal. It’s the same with Gunter, Pearce, Matthews, Aneke, Watson. I don’t think these players are players capable of promotion. I really want to rip it all up and start again, however unlikely that is.This summer we have to be bold. No Williams or Cousins coming back, 10/11 new players that are young, hungry and have got a bit of fight about them. Stating the obvious, but just what I feel the squad needs1 -
Surely Southgate has set the president, we NEED four right backs!.AddicksAddict said:
Well, we need someone to push Matthews into pushing Gunter, or vice versa, for that right back slot.DOUCHER said:i think - although i could be completely wrong - the fact there are very little rumours being leaked out, is a good thing - suggests we are doing business in a targeted and controlled way - a bit like the Curbishley / Murray years when u would normally hear nothing until it was done. May be wishful thinking, but i'm hoping for better than Williams and Cousins - Willliams due to his fragility and Cousins because, although we need an athlete or 2 in the middle, i never liked watching him play - always looked like a defender playing in midfield to me.1 -
Like many of the players have give a fck about the club the past 10 years.Exiled_Addick said:OS article certainly seemed to suggest we offered JFC a deal, but maybe he's turned it down. Would be very disappointed if w didn't at least offer him some kind of deal and support with his rehab - it's actions like that that give us a good rep as a club as a place players want to play and why so many former players have affection for the club. Would be un-Charlton like to just ditch him, and not a direction I'd want the club to start going in.0 -
It’s undoubtedly the last few seasons that has done it to me but....
There’s nothing to suggest something is up with Thomas’ reign, is there?If true, JFC potentially not being offered an extension seems strange and not in keeping with the way Thomas appears to roll.
We also haven’t heard about Matthews, Amos and co. I know, I know many players could be waiting for better deals but I thought TS was going all guns blazing to set up a title-winning squad.As I say, I know nothing, just beaten down by the many false dawns behind the scenes in recent years.1 -
Valley11 said:It’s undoubtedly the last few seasons that has done it to me but....
There’s nothing to suggest something is up with Thomas’ reign, is there?If true, JFC potentially not being offered an extension seems strange and not in keeping with the way Thomas appears to roll.
We also haven’t heard about Matthews, Amos and co. I know, I know many players could be waiting for better deals but I thought TS was going all guns blazing to set up a title-winning squad.As I say, I know nothing, just beaten down by the many false dawns behind the scenes in recents years.
Don't think there's any reason to be alarmed whatsoever. The club have said they've offered JFC a contract but the fact is he's injured and not available until who knows when. Signings will come. I'm not expecting us to throw silly money around though and neither would I want us to. We've somehow managed to pull together a squad the last few seasons under atrocious conditions so no reason not to be at least cautiously optimistic we'll have a good window and a strong team next year to push for promotion.7
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