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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,852
    J BLOCK said:
    Nearly a player a day needed now ..
    Or seven in one day?

    I'm imagining that top class journalist Jim White, with his stupid f*cking yellow tie, constantly saying "we're going back to The Valley for some more breaking news" over and over again! 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    Out of interest, does anyone know if the budget available to Adkins is more or less than what Bowyer had the season we went up?
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,549
    chev said:
    Could be bollocks of course, but gotta just stump up 500k surely? If he’s actually a player we want lets go all out to get him. We’re desperate for a CM
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,553
    Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,553
    edited August 2021
    cabbles said:
    Out of interest, does anyone know if the budget available to Adkins is more or less than what Bowyer had the season we went up?
    Depends how you look at it. We had no money for fees when Bowyer was here but he inherited a much higher wage bill to play with, as well as a more talented crop of u23’s
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,223
    I’m surprised Gillingham view Dempsey as the same value as Kirk. Personally think Kirk is worth more in a transfer market. 
  • bobmunro said:
    chev said:
    Could be bollocks of course, but gotta just stump up 500k surely? If he’s actually a player we want lets go all out to get him. We’re desperate for a CM
    We may not consider he is worth Gillingham's valuation.

    So easy to spend other peoples' money!
    Or we may agree with their valuation but we know they’re skint, much like teams did to us over the years. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,812
    Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
    Those people are the type of moron who goes to a house viewing and offers the asking price

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  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    Not one for Wikipedia, but Dempsey has won 3 POTY awards in his career thus far, can’t be bad that.
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    edited August 2021
    Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
    It the same lot who were moaning we weren't bidding for anyone! If we've put in a cheeky offer of £200k, my guess is that we knew they would reject it but it's an opening negotiation bid! Now that's business sense in my opinion, but there are some people you'll never please 
    It wouldn't surprise me if the same lot would've moaned if we had bid £750k straight away, and they would say we paid too much!!
  • I’m surprised Gillingham view Dempsey as the same value as Kirk. Personally think Kirk is worth more in a transfer market. 
    Trouble with leaving business late is clubs will know we are desperate for signings and will up the price (unless they need the cash). They also have to find a replacement 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,852
    edited August 2021
    I’m surprised Gillingham view Dempsey as the same value as Kirk. Personally think Kirk is worth more in a transfer market. 
    Trouble with leaving business late is clubs will know we are desperate for signings and will up the price (unless they need the cash). They also have to find a replacement 
    Gills can't afford to replace him, and even if they could I thought they were under a transfer embargo.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,002
    chev said:
    Could be bollocks of course, but gotta just stump up 500k surely? If he’s actually a player we want lets go all out to get him. We’re desperate for a CM
    Yes but the trick is getting Gillingham to accept 500k. They probably quoted more
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,528
    Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
    It the same lot who were moaning we weren't bidding for anyone! If we've put in a cheeky offer of £200k, my guess is that we knew they would reject it but it's an opening negotiation bid! Now that's business sense in my opinion, but there are some people you'll never please 
    It wouldn't surprise me if the same lot would've moaned if we had bid £750k straight away, and they would say we paid too much!!
    Exactly this. Some out there have no clue how these processes nor negotiations work 🤦🏻‍♂️. I am only too pleased to see a) a bid for a player is out in the public domain b) the player that has been bid upon looks pretty decent at L1 level.

    Unless a bidding war starts and if we are serious about him and not using him as a pawn to secure another target (ie express serious interest elsewhere to try to close out a deal for an already preferred target), we will probably secure him undisclosed but between our opening and their bottom end estimate. Whatever happens, like others, I really hope Nigel has a few new quality options to use come this weekend in order to kick start our season.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    thenewbie said:
    Maybe you BOTH need to chill a little? This is making me miss the argument thread, this would've been prime material.

    As to the Dempsey rumour that is one I can see happening, they've quoted us a price, we've made a counter offer and now Gallen's got to do the haggling to get to a middle ground.
    But the player also has to agree to join us. Why would someone want to join a club that is below them in the league & could also be fighting relegation. I imagine we'd have to pay him more in wages as he now has the upper hand......something that wouldn't have been the case a month ago.

    But apparently I'm just a worrier that we didnt get players in before the season started & that by next tuesday we'll be falling over ourselves with players desperately wanting to join us as there won't be another gig in town. 
  • Not one for Wikipedia, but Dempsey has won 3 POTY awards in his career thus far, can’t be bad that.
    Been told he's best player at club by a mile by someone very close to the club.

    I'm never in the know but £500k gets him
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,852
    thenewbie said:
    Maybe you BOTH need to chill a little? This is making me miss the argument thread, this would've been prime material.

    As to the Dempsey rumour that is one I can see happening, they've quoted us a price, we've made a counter offer and now Gallen's got to do the haggling to get to a middle ground.
    But the player also has to agree to join us. Why would someone want to join a club that is below them in the league & could also be fighting relegation. I imagine we'd have to pay him more in wages as he now has the upper hand......something that wouldn't have been the case a month ago.

    But apparently I'm just a worrier that we didnt get players in before the season started & that by next tuesday we'll be falling over ourselves with players desperately wanting to join us as there won't be another gig in town. 
    We are an infinitely bigger club than Gillingham. Do you really believe that we will finish below them come the end of the season? 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,002
    I’m surprised Gillingham view Dempsey as the same value as Kirk. Personally think Kirk is worth more in a transfer market. 
    Trouble with leaving business late is clubs will know we are desperate for signings and will up the price (unless they need the cash). They also have to find a replacement 
    But Gillingham need the money for their own business (and are ALSO running out of time.) It's more bluff and brinkmanship than anything.

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  • If we sign Dempsey that's our purchasing done. Only loans after that is my guess. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
    Well, they're not wrong in a way. What's wrong with bunging down £500k & say take it or leave it. No haggling, just do the deal. Its not like we can be choosy now is it.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,786
    edited August 2021
    We’re at 200, Gills are at 500. I’m sure, if it goes through, the eventual fee would land in the 300-350 range with some performance based add ons or a sell on fee etc. That would be a very good bit of business in my eyes.
  • If we sign Dempsey that's our purchasing done. Only loans after that is my guess. 
    Yeah I think you’re prob right, but the way things are going, I’d be happy with Dempsey & some decent loans. Loan players that are going to play every week not just turn up & train (Smith etc). 
  • Backup gk - 
    lb -

    Cm lowery
    Cm/am dempsey

    Lw/rw.   sims

    get rid of schwartz 
    replace with Jephcott

    Aneke replacement - size and goals

    job done :)

    how good would that be 😂
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,852
    Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
    Well, they're not wrong in a way. What's wrong with bunging down £500k & say take it or leave it. No haggling, just do the deal. Its not like we can be choosy now is it.
    £500k is a lot of someone else's money. What's the average value of the pension pots you advise on? Someone on average earnings will take 20 years to earn that!

    We may well have to eventually spend £500k, but based on Gillingham's financial dire straits it seems a reasonable strategy. I'm not aware of clubs queueing up for him.  
  • 000__Jaaaaay__000
    000__Jaaaaay__000 Posts: 2,342
    edited August 2021
    golfaddick said: 
    Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
    Well, they're not wrong in a way. What's wrong with bunging down £500k & say take it or leave it. No haggling, just do the deal. Its not like we can be choosy now is it.
    you should stick to playing football manager,  if that’s how you think it works 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,852
    Backup gk - 
    lb -

    Cm lowery
    Cm/am dempsey

    Lw/rw.   sims

    get rid of schwartz 
    replace with Jephcott

    Aneke replacement - size and goals

    job done :)

    how good would that be 😂
    Winning a £100 million Euromillions jackpot would be good also - but that isn't happening either!
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
    I doubt we’ll sign both Dempsey and Lowery? More likely they’re both on our list and we’re aiming to sign one.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
    Well, they're not wrong in a way. What's wrong with bunging down £500k & say take it or leave it. No haggling, just do the deal. Its not like we can be choosy now is it.
    Great idea, if you can quickly CHAPS over £300K to TS it'll be sorted by this time tomorrow.
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