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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)
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Out of interest, does anyone know if the budget available to Adkins is more or less than what Bowyer had the season we went up?0
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Could be bollocks of course, but gotta just stump up 500k surely? If he’s actually a player we want lets go all out to get him. We’re desperate for a CMchev said:0 -
Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k5
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Depends how you look at it. We had no money for fees when Bowyer was here but he inherited a much higher wage bill to play with, as well as a more talented crop of u23’scabbles said:Out of interest, does anyone know if the budget available to Adkins is more or less than what Bowyer had the season we went up?4 -
We may not consider he is worth Gillingham's valuation.cafcsinger said:
Could be bollocks of course, but gotta just stump up 500k surely? If he’s actually a player we want lets go all out to get him. We’re desperate for a CMchev said:
So easy to spend other peoples' money!23 -
I’m surprised Gillingham view Dempsey as the same value as Kirk. Personally think Kirk is worth more in a transfer market.3
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Or we may agree with their valuation but we know they’re skint, much like teams did to us over the years.bobmunro said:
We may not consider he is worth Gillingham's valuation.cafcsinger said:
Could be bollocks of course, but gotta just stump up 500k surely? If he’s actually a player we want lets go all out to get him. We’re desperate for a CMchev said:
So easy to spend other peoples' money!8 -
Those people are the type of moron who goes to a house viewing and offers the asking priceElliotCAFC said:Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k4 -
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Not one for Wikipedia, but Dempsey has won 3 POTY awards in his career thus far, can’t be bad that.0
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It the same lot who were moaning we weren't bidding for anyone! If we've put in a cheeky offer of £200k, my guess is that we knew they would reject it but it's an opening negotiation bid! Now that's business sense in my opinion, but there are some people you'll never pleaseElliotCAFC said:Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
It wouldn't surprise me if the same lot would've moaned if we had bid £750k straight away, and they would say we paid too much!!8 -
Trouble with leaving business late is clubs will know we are desperate for signings and will up the price (unless they need the cash). They also have to find a replacementstoneroses19 said:I’m surprised Gillingham view Dempsey as the same value as Kirk. Personally think Kirk is worth more in a transfer market.
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Gills can't afford to replace him, and even if they could I thought they were under a transfer embargo.DessieValley said:
Trouble with leaving business late is clubs will know we are desperate for signings and will up the price (unless they need the cash). They also have to find a replacementstoneroses19 said:I’m surprised Gillingham view Dempsey as the same value as Kirk. Personally think Kirk is worth more in a transfer market.2 -
Yes but the trick is getting Gillingham to accept 500k. They probably quoted morecafcsinger said:
Could be bollocks of course, but gotta just stump up 500k surely? If he’s actually a player we want lets go all out to get him. We’re desperate for a CMchev said:1 -
Exactly this. Some out there have no clue how these processes nor negotiations work 🤦🏻♂️. I am only too pleased to see a) a bid for a player is out in the public domain b) the player that has been bid upon looks pretty decent at L1 level.Redmidland said:
It the same lot who were moaning we weren't bidding for anyone! If we've put in a cheeky offer of £200k, my guess is that we knew they would reject it but it's an opening negotiation bid! Now that's business sense in my opinion, but there are some people you'll never pleaseElliotCAFC said:Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
It wouldn't surprise me if the same lot would've moaned if we had bid £750k straight away, and they would say we paid too much!!
Unless a bidding war starts and if we are serious about him and not using him as a pawn to secure another target (ie express serious interest elsewhere to try to close out a deal for an already preferred target), we will probably secure him undisclosed but between our opening and their bottom end estimate. Whatever happens, like others, I really hope Nigel has a few new quality options to use come this weekend in order to kick start our season.1 -
But the player also has to agree to join us. Why would someone want to join a club that is below them in the league & could also be fighting relegation. I imagine we'd have to pay him more in wages as he now has the upper hand......something that wouldn't have been the case a month ago.thenewbie said:Maybe you BOTH need to chill a little? This is making me miss the argument thread, this would've been prime material.
As to the Dempsey rumour that is one I can see happening, they've quoted us a price, we've made a counter offer and now Gallen's got to do the haggling to get to a middle ground.
But apparently I'm just a worrier that we didnt get players in before the season started & that by next tuesday we'll be falling over ourselves with players desperately wanting to join us as there won't be another gig in town.4 -
Been told he's best player at club by a mile by someone very close to the club.BR7_addick said:Not one for Wikipedia, but Dempsey has won 3 POTY awards in his career thus far, can’t be bad that.
I'm never in the know but £500k gets him4 -
We are an infinitely bigger club than Gillingham. Do you really believe that we will finish below them come the end of the season?golfaddick said:
But the player also has to agree to join us. Why would someone want to join a club that is below them in the league & could also be fighting relegation. I imagine we'd have to pay him more in wages as he now has the upper hand......something that wouldn't have been the case a month ago.thenewbie said:Maybe you BOTH need to chill a little? This is making me miss the argument thread, this would've been prime material.
As to the Dempsey rumour that is one I can see happening, they've quoted us a price, we've made a counter offer and now Gallen's got to do the haggling to get to a middle ground.
But apparently I'm just a worrier that we didnt get players in before the season started & that by next tuesday we'll be falling over ourselves with players desperately wanting to join us as there won't be another gig in town.6 -
But Gillingham need the money for their own business (and are ALSO running out of time.) It's more bluff and brinkmanship than anything.DessieValley said:
Trouble with leaving business late is clubs will know we are desperate for signings and will up the price (unless they need the cash). They also have to find a replacementstoneroses19 said:I’m surprised Gillingham view Dempsey as the same value as Kirk. Personally think Kirk is worth more in a transfer market.9 -
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If we sign Dempsey that's our purchasing done. Only loans after that is my guess.0
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Well, they're not wrong in a way. What's wrong with bunging down £500k & say take it or leave it. No haggling, just do the deal. Its not like we can be choosy now is it.ElliotCAFC said:Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k10 -
We’re at 200, Gills are at 500. I’m sure, if it goes through, the eventual fee would land in the 300-350 range with some performance based add ons or a sell on fee etc. That would be a very good bit of business in my eyes.14
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Yeah I think you’re prob right, but the way things are going, I’d be happy with Dempsey & some decent loans. Loan players that are going to play every week not just turn up & train (Smith etc).The Prince-e-Paul said:If we sign Dempsey that's our purchasing done. Only loans after that is my guess.0 -
Backup gk -
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Cm lowery
Cm/am dempsey
Lw/rw. sims
get rid of schwartz
replace with Jephcott
Aneke replacement - size and goals
job done
how good would that be 😂2 -
£500k is a lot of someone else's money. What's the average value of the pension pots you advise on? Someone on average earnings will take 20 years to earn that!golfaddick said:
Well, they're not wrong in a way. What's wrong with bunging down £500k & say take it or leave it. No haggling, just do the deal. Its not like we can be choosy now is it.ElliotCAFC said:Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k
We may well have to eventually spend £500k, but based on Gillingham's financial dire straits it seems a reasonable strategy. I'm not aware of clubs queueing up for him.7 -
you should stick to playing football manager, if that’s how you think it worksgolfaddick said:
Well, they're not wrong in a way. What's wrong with bunging down £500k & say take it or leave it. No haggling, just do the deal. Its not like we can be choosy now is it.ElliotCAFC said:Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k2 -
Winning a £100 million Euromillions jackpot would be good also - but that isn't happening either!CharltontillidieCOYR said:Backup gk -
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Cm lowery
Cm/am dempsey
Lw/rw. sims
get rid of schwartz
replace with Jephcott
Aneke replacement - size and goals
job done
how good would that be 😂3 -
I doubt we’ll sign both Dempsey and Lowery? More likely they’re both on our list and we’re aiming to sign one.1
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Great idea, if you can quickly CHAPS over £300K to TS it'll be sorted by this time tomorrow.golfaddick said:
Well, they're not wrong in a way. What's wrong with bunging down £500k & say take it or leave it. No haggling, just do the deal. Its not like we can be choosy now is it.ElliotCAFC said:Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k11
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