Who on earth are you expecting us to sign in League 1? Some of you who going on so much about Lowry, Dempsey etc saying you’d rather them when you have seen them play 1-2 times.
Arter is a good signing in a position we are extremely weak in. We have played 4 games and our midfield has lost nearly every battle. We need a player like this to get a grip of the game. Morton, Dobson, Clare are most certainly not going to do that!
Re: Arter's age, Gallen said that we would look to bring in a few experienced players as well. It's not just going to be all young'uns.
Also, I would be surprised if his legs are gone at 31 years old.
Gunter was only 31 when he came in, and is only 5 months older than Arter, and it can be argued that he's declined significantly from his peak
I don't think Gunter's legs have gone. He's just been shit.
And will Arter be shit just because Gunter has been?
The real question will be whether he's lost his motivation and is just playing out his final years, or he's gunning to play football again after being frozen out at Forest. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
Re: Arter's age, Gallen said that we would look to bring in a few experienced players as well. It's not just going to be all young'uns.
Also, I would be surprised if his legs are gone at 31 years old.
Gunter was only 31 when he came in, and is only 5 months older than Arter, and it can be argued that he's declined significantly from his peak
I don't think Gunter's legs have gone. He's just been shit.
And will Arter be shit because Gunter has been?
What other explanation for a player of Gunter's pedigree being substandard can there be other than physical degradation? He's gained more experience, had more training. Short of getting the yips (which isn't really documented in football aside from in strikers), how could Gunter, once of Spurs, be hapless in League One if his legs haven't gone and he's trying to make up for it and failing?
You're intelligent enough to come up with some other reasons without me helping!
It has to come down to him protecting his body as he can't do the things he used to do unrestrained. There might be comorbid mental issues and he has been played out of position at times, but...are you suggesting he isn't trying? Players who don't try get sussed by managers instantly, dropped, and don't play again
I was sent a text saying he had signed. I'm just passing on in good faith. My source has been wrong before. However his dad works at the club and I have no reason to disbelieve him.
Do Canio was what 34 / 35 and was absolute filth when he signed for us, sure Hazzas best days are in the rear view mirror, but surely it doesn’t mean we should never sign a player aged over 30 again, that would be daft?
Ive no idea of how this would work out, Gunter and Watson have not been great signings yet, if we’re being completely honest, Hazza brings bags of experience, doesn’t come with a bad rep character as far as I’m aware, welcome on board son, please announce this soon Charlton!
Re: Arter's age, Gallen said that we would look to bring in a few experienced players as well. It's not just going to be all young'uns.
Also, I would be surprised if his legs are gone at 31 years old.
So would I, but I do find it difficult to understand why someone with nearly a hundred Premier League appearances to his name would sign for a League One side when he's only 31.
I also don't understand why he can't get near the Forest team. Watson made 45 appearances for Forest the season before he joined us, and they finished 7th in the Championship that year.
There could be perfectly good reasons why Arter's willing to drop to League One and why it hasn't worked out for him at Forest, but I know he had some injury problems last season, so it is a bit of a concern that he may not be the player he was. Hopefully it'll be a case of a new start with a manager that believes in him, and it'll work out well for us.
Re: Arter's age, Gallen said that we would look to bring in a few experienced players as well. It's not just going to be all young'uns.
Also, I would be surprised if his legs are gone at 31 years old.
Gunter was only 31 when he came in, and is only 5 months older than Arter, and it can be argued that he's declined significantly from his peak
I don't think Gunter's legs have gone. He's just been shit.
And will Arter be shit because Gunter has been?
What other explanation for a player of Gunter's pedigree being substandard can there be other than physical degradation? He's gained more experience, had more training. Short of getting the yips (which isn't really documented in football aside from in strikers), how could Gunter, once of Spurs, be hapless in League One if his legs haven't gone and he's trying to make up for it and failing?
Yet Gunter still gets called up for Wales. I thought the Euros would have been the perfect stage for him to call it a day at international level or for Wales to say thanks for the 100+ caps but now they want to give younger players a chance.
Yet Gunter gets called up again for the next round of internationals, you don't get called up if your legs have gone.
You're intelligent enough to come up with some other reasons without me helping!
It has to come down to him protecting his body as he can't do the things he used to do unrestrained. There might be comorbid mental issues and he has been played out of position at times, but...are you suggesting he isn't trying? Players who don't try get sussed by managers instantly, dropped, and don't play again
The only reason for a player going out of form is physical degradation? What if they're 25? Good players don't ever go out form? Good players always play well at every club they play for? It always works out? They don't also have things happen outside of football that affect their game? Partnerships on the field? They get along with the other players, the staff? Formations and tactics always suit them? Come on now...
You're intelligent enough to come up with some other reasons without me helping!
It has to come down to him protecting his body as he can't do the things he used to do unrestrained. There might be comorbid mental issues and he has been played out of position at times, but...are you suggesting he isn't trying? Players who don't try get sussed by managers instantly, dropped, and don't play again
The only reason for a player going out of form is physical degradation? What if they're 25? Good players don't ever go out form? Good players always play well at every club they play for? It always works out? They don't also have things happen outside of football that affect their game? Partnerships on the field? They get along with the other players, the staff? Formations and tactics always suit them? Come on now...
Gunter had been out of favour and form at Reading and aside from a couple of games has been out of form for his entire Charlton career. You don't lose form for a whole two and a bit years unless it's something more permanent
The difference between players like Gunter (and maybe Arter) and Di Canio is that the former two have spent their careers haring about making tackles and the latter had spent his career wafting volleys into the top corner
The difference between players like Gunter (and maybe Arter) and Di Canio is that the former two have spent their careers haring about making tackles and the latter had spent his career wafting volleys into the top corner
Also the better technical players can adapt to declining stats such as pace, stamina etc.... although much easier to disguise this as a centre back or centre forward as opposed to a central midfielder/ winger.
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Also, I would be surprised if his legs are gone at 31 years old.
Who on earth are you expecting us to sign in League 1? Some of you who going on so much about Lowry, Dempsey etc saying you’d rather them when you have seen them play 1-2 times.
And will Arter be shit just because Gunter has been?
The real question will be whether he's lost his motivation and is just playing out his final years, or he's gunning to play football again after being frozen out at Forest. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
You're intelligent enough to come up with some other reasons without me helping!
However as always, WIOTOS.
its fair to say that he hates the club.
Ive no idea of how this would work out, Gunter and Watson have not been great signings yet, if we’re being completely honest, Hazza brings bags of experience, doesn’t come with a bad rep character as far as I’m aware, welcome on board son, please announce this soon Charlton!
Yet Gunter gets called up again for the next round of internationals, you don't get called up if your legs have gone.