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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)
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Do you think Cawley was getting ahead of himself by reporting the deal was ‘agreed’?DubaiCAFC said:Heard Forest want Arter wages totally off the books.0 -
More likely that Forest have moved the goalposts after an initial agreement.SouthLincsAddick said:
Do you think Cawley was getting ahead of himself by reporting the deal was ‘agreed’?DubaiCAFC said:Heard Forest want Arter wages totally off the books.18 -
Redmidland said:What slightly worries me is, if NA is in charge of the side tonight in the mickey mouse cup, and we're trying to make some late signings due to maybe our other targets getting snapped up elsewhere during the day (or failing medicals, unable to agree personal terms) how's he going to agree, as part of the 4 man recruitment team who comes in, or even has a conversation with the player?
Due to the game tonight I would expect our signings (if there are any) to be done before 6 pm and not in the final hours scramble.I would be more worried if NA was needed at this late stage. The players will have been identified and we will already have been in contact with Prem/Champ clubs regarding loanees. There will be a final list in priority order 'if this falls through then plan B' and so on.More likely though that deals (if there are any) have already been done and it will just be down to the paperwork.6 -
Cawley was only reporting what another journo printed to be fairSouthLincsAddick said:
Do you think Cawley was getting ahead of himself by reporting the deal was ‘agreed’?DubaiCAFC said:Heard Forest want Arter wages totally off the books.1 -
If the Arter deal is off I'd say 2 in, both loans, Forward and a leftback.
The improved performance in both Morgan and Watson might see us leave off the CM until Jan and see if we can get a perm in on a better deal (Lowery) etc.0 -
I never mentioned Stockley?!! My post about Kelman was opinion based on his stats and the loans of players with even less senior football experience.Maccn05 said:
I stand corrected!… although your two were actually in the mighty EFL cup so it’s 4 in L1.ValleyGary said:
😂 ‘Good research guys……’ElliotCAFC said:
All 6 of his goals were in League One.Maccn05 said:On Kelman...- One poster says he's inexperienced not untested - he's scored 6 goals in 42 - all in L2
- Conor had played at every level for England youth and won, plus he's Chelsea. Not quite the same pedigree with CK
- Another poster says good back up to Stockley - he's 5ft 9in
but good research guys!
... lets see what Tommy brings us tomorrow.But your right fine pedigree! … and he’s a perfect 5ft 9in replacement for Jayden LOL0 -
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I once went to a game specifically to watch him...but it was a washout. ...where's me coat?RC_CAFC said:
Does he play in the hole?KiwiValley said:Enema anyone?0 -
Too be fair the club haven't left it all to the final day as we've signed a number of players already.mendonca said:Mmmh suddenly the realisation of leaving our transfer policy to the final day does not feel great.
And to be fair TS said things would probably happen on the last day
And to be fair a lot of deals will be done today not involving Charlton so it's not just us.
And to be fair we can judge the window more fully when it's closed.
To be unfair, any signing now will be dismissed by some as "last minute panic" or "why didn't we sign him sooner" regardless.
As Arter shows again WIOTOS34 -
no, because agreed isn't the same as done.SouthLincsAddick said:
Do you think Cawley was getting ahead of himself by reporting the deal was ‘agreed’?DubaiCAFC said:Heard Forest want Arter wages totally off the books.
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2 in today. One Midfielder and one Forward0
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If we don’t sign a left back today questions will be asked of Jed Roddy considering his son is the only other player in that position.8
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Be strange not having this thread running, and the various "rumours" being spun around .. life won't be the same....still there is always the "Out of contract, and who's free and available" from tomorrow to look forward to eh...
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we know @NapaAddick already that "math" (sic) is really not your strong point but is that mean or median average?NapaAddick said:
Multiple media sources this year say the average Championship wage is $35 kpw. Any club hoping for promotion to the EPL probably need to well exceed this amount. Having no players earning even half that amount probably explains why we went down in 2019-20.Henry Irving said:If Forest are paying anyone £38k a week no wonder they are in trouble.
Let's assume it's mean in which case one player on 75K and one on 1k gives us that average of 38k (approx) that you quote.
as @Chris_from_Sidcup explained parachute money and players on pre-existing EPL deals greatly distorts the average. the median average may well be a lot lower.
£38k pw is not sustainable for a team like Forest near the bottom of the league with no parachute money yet they are rumoured to be paying that to a player in his late 20s (when he signed)0 -
Even if no signings, you’ll have several hundred pointless posts on this thread to read.AddickUpNorth said:Long shift coming up so I won’t be able to check in until about half seven tonight but by the time I do I expect to get the news of three or four quality signings. Hoping I’m not let down.1 -
I’ve got so used to disappointment on these days, that when someone posts, ‘Two in’ I find myself shaking my head and thinking, ‘no chance’.1
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Forest are in the same group of clubs as Derby etc where they spent big in the hope of getting into the premiership. Gamble hasnt paid off and are now in a massive hole. I for 1 hope that once we get back into the Championship we can just keep within our budget and not go crazy18
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What the size of crowd got to do with anything? Clubs only have one manager and they’re needed to agree on signings while also being a dug out, it could be a bit messy. Obviously an assistant manager could run the team tonight, but it’s not ideal.BR7_addick said:
Papa John’s Trophy? Likely to be a bigger crowd at the open training session, seriously doubt this disrupts any transfer activity.RC_CAFC said:They’re shouldn’t be any games that happen on the evening of transfer deadline day. Badly thought out by the EFL.1 -
No left back?MrBurns said:2 in today. One Midfielder and one Forward
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No .. Gunter was excellent on Saturday and Purrington is back fitrobroy said:Anyone else think we need a LB?22 -
1 decent cross doesn't make him 'excellent' at LB
he isn't a LB16 -
Henry Irving said:
To be fair to Cawley the word agreed was in quote marks.
no, because agreed isn't the same as done.SouthLincsAddick said:
Do you think Cawley was getting ahead of himself by reporting the deal was ‘agreed’?DubaiCAFC said:Heard Forest want Arter wages totally off the books.1 -
QPR signing Andre Gray on loan today so that could free him up.Scoham said:Rumour on another forum that we're interested in taking QPRs Charlie Kelman on loan.
They signed him from Southend last year, he's a 19 year old striker and had scored a few goals in Southend's first team. Had been suggested as a possible signing on here before he went to QPR.
American u20 international. QPR signed him to initially play for their u23s so no surprise he's not yet broken into their first team.0 -
I’m aware of the emergency loan situation, I just feel we should be proactive and not wait until it happens. If Mac gets injured early on in a game then we potentially lose a game because we haven’t got experienced back up.Scoham said:
Striker and left back yes, backup GK not really an issue - you can still bring them in on emergency loans and there will be free agents out there.Phil said:Clearly we have recruited two or three good players but our failure at this stage to secure another striker, left back and back up keeper is shocking.
If we are to seriously challenge at the top end of the table then this was a minimum.
We are now somewhat desperate and may be held to fandom by some clubs, players and agents.
I hope it turns out better than my pessimistic view!
Why wait? You’re then slightly desperate and surely you’d want to integrate any player asap?
It seems shortsighted and neglectful to me.0 -
How many minutes, in the league, has our second choice keeper played over the last 5 years?Phil said:
I’m aware of the emergency loan situation, I just feel we should be proactive and not wait until it happens. If Mac gets injured early on in a game then we potentially lose a game because we haven’t got experienced back up.Scoham said:
Striker and left back yes, backup GK not really an issue - you can still bring them in on emergency loans and there will be free agents out there.Phil said:Clearly we have recruited two or three good players but our failure at this stage to secure another striker, left back and back up keeper is shocking.
If we are to seriously challenge at the top end of the table then this was a minimum.
We are now somewhat desperate and may be held to fandom by some clubs, players and agents.
I hope it turns out better than my pessimistic view!
Why wait? You’re then slightly desperate and surely you’d want to integrate any player asap?
It seems shortsighted and neglectful to me.2 -
I don’t disagree with being proactive, more that it doesn’t have to be resolved today. Would make more sense to put our focus fully on outfield positions where it’s a lot more urgent.Phil said:
I’m aware of the emergency loan situation, I just feel we should be proactive and not wait until it happens. If Mac gets injured early on in a game then we potentially lose a game because we haven’t got experienced back up.Scoham said:
Striker and left back yes, backup GK not really an issue - you can still bring them in on emergency loans and there will be free agents out there.Phil said:Clearly we have recruited two or three good players but our failure at this stage to secure another striker, left back and back up keeper is shocking.
If we are to seriously challenge at the top end of the table then this was a minimum.
We are now somewhat desperate and may be held to fandom by some clubs, players and agents.
I hope it turns out better than my pessimistic view!
Why wait? You’re then slightly desperate and surely you’d want to integrate any player asap?
It seems shortsighted and neglectful to me.0
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