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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)
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I think if Purrington will be fine for the majority of the season we'll be ok without another left back.
Biggest concern is if Stockley gets injured, but if we bought a back up they'd be a shit journeyman nobody wants (like Bogle was). I think we have enough goals in our squad now to weather a few games without him. But, we're just going to have to keep our fingers crossed on that one.
Decent window overall - squad looks infinitely better than a month ago. Let's just get a good run going after a tricky start.2 -
Goodbye time consuming page - see you in December18
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People still going on about left back said ages ago we would not bring one in unless Purrington injury was long term .. Gunter done well
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When we announcing Charlie Kelman?RonnieMoore said:People still going on about left back said ages ago we would not bring one in unless Purrington injury was long term .. Gunter done well19 -
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Because some of them clearly aren’t good enoughstoneroses19 said:
Don’t see how you come to the conclusion that the 10 we’ve brought in makes a bad window.orpingtonRED said:
Why is this liked so much?PeanutsMolloy said:Good window, good squad.
congrats Recruitment team, NA and TS.
Automatic promotion here we come.
COYR
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Decent window and we've spent some cash, but if Purrington or Stockley get injured we are stuffed1
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Arter should be the best of the lot but the big positive of this window has been finally signing players to long-term deals, so Lavelle. Hopefully it reduces the chance of rebuilding every summer.AFKABartram said:So initial reactions, of the three today (Arter, Lavelle, Leko), what one are you most pleased about?4 -
It’s not often every signing works out. It’s also too early completely write players off, especially if they’re now squad players.The Red Robin said:
Because some of them clearly aren’t good enoughstoneroses19 said:
Don’t see how you come to the conclusion that the 10 we’ve brought in makes a bad window.orpingtonRED said:
Why is this liked so much?PeanutsMolloy said:Good window, good squad.
congrats Recruitment team, NA and TS.
Automatic promotion here we come.
COYR
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See this is completely unnecessary. The bloke is not being unduly negative or slagging anyone yet being called a cock for have a view contrary to the main.SoundAsa£ said:
🐓orpingtonRED said:
Wow we spent a million.felix_31 said:In my opinion... Great window. Strong team. Spent well over £1,000,000 signing young, talented, motivated players on long term contracts. Also signed players with links to CAFC (Lee, Arter, Leko & Clare) and signed natural leaders and players of the season (Lavelle Kirk & MacG). I also think the temperament of the players we've brought in has been well thought through.
Whats not to like? Yes, we might be a LB or a ST short, but I reckon we might dip into the free transfer market to plug whatever minute holes there might be.
Finally, a sensible window, not one where our sole target is to bring In 'bodies.'
I will go Charlton and support the team as Always but I'm not expecting us to be anywhere near the play-offs.
I think this is a below average squad.
I hope I am wrong I honestly do.
Playing some youngsters through the season will keep me interested and then mount a challenge next season. I'm not in a rush for promotion like others
Many of us who aren't hailing this as a great transfer window/ have concerns about how objective the Roddy jr signing is or how seemingly last minute the recruitment strategy are mocked as having sand in our privates or being unhappy or angry at the world.
All a bit unnecessary and turns the forum into an echo chamber and dont see need to pour scorn on fellow Charlton fans who have different opinions on current squad.
Dont think it is leftfield or overly negative to say that not having a fit left back at the club at this stage is concerning.
Hopefully it'll click and we will be up there competing in top six and we'll all be happy and whilst probably many of us are less concerned than 24 hours ago I dont think we've necessarily got depth of squad to guarantee top 6 challenge and a lot riding on Stockley performing for 40 plus games.
It's healthy surely to have different views and civily debate them without the personal snide digs.21 - Sponsored links:
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Ended up being quite a decent window
Seven out of ten I'd say.
I would have given a higher Mark had we replaced Aneke and got a left back.
But overall not to bad.4 -
This has not been the rebuilding we all envisioned.
We have however brought in some real quality in this window and a few that should be good enough at this level to be in and around it.
Quite honestly I think we'll be the start slow but scrape into the playoffs type team as we gel.
I am a bit disappointed we didn't find a left back, even on loan but all in all I think we've been shrewd.
(Obviously not chronological order)
MacGillivray
DobsonClareFamewoBlackett-TaylorStockleyLavelleLeko
LeeArterKirk2 -
We have a half decent squad so we have made progress but still a bit light up front. Adkins has enough to work with and we're moving in the right direction.
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Not sure that formation would work mate.Dazzler21 said:This has not been the rebuilding we all envisioned.
We have however brought in some real quality in this window and a few that should be good enough at this level to be in and around it.
Quite honestly I think we'll be the start slow but scrape into the playoffs type team as we gel.
I am a bit disappointed we didn't find a left back, even on loan but all in all I think we've been shrewd.
MacGillivray
DobsonClareFamewoBlackett-TaylorStockleyLavelleLeko
LeeArterKirk11 -
There is a limit on squad size.CL_Phantom said:Very good window, would say 2 signings away from excellent, 3 from perfect.0 -
How many spaces do we have?Crusty54 said:
There is a limit on squad size.CL_Phantom said:Very good window, would say 2 signings away from excellent, 3 from perfect.
If it’s true that we’re after two free agents they’ll presumably be two of a GK, LB and striker.0 -
Possibly, but it would depend on when they were injured, as there’s always the January window.CAFCsayer said:Decent window and we've spent some cash, but if Purrington or Stockley get injured we are stuffedAlso, strikes me that Gunter may be improving in that LB position, and I remember Magennis getting injured and we picked up a four one away win. Stockley may be better than Josh, but he’s less influential than Lyle Taylor. Wiith our more new improved midfield I think we’ll be creating more chance and getting more players into the box.
Of course continuing the optimistic vibe, we may pick up a free agent left back, we’ll see. The birds are singing etc etc.4 -
We have options now in midfield and hopefully they can also contribute with goals. Things are looking brighter.JamesSeed said:
Possibly, but it would depend on when they were injured, as there’s always the January window.CAFCsayer said:Decent window and we've spent some cash, but if Purrington or Stockley get injured we are stuffedAlso, strikes me that Gunter may be improving in that LB position, and I remember Magennis getting injured and we picked up a four one away win. Stockley may be better than Josh, but he’s less influential than Lyle Taylor. Wiith our more new improved midfield I think we’ll be creating more chance and getting more players into the box.
Of course continuing the optimistic vibe, we may pick up a free agent left back, we’ll see.3 -
Great post Exiled. Word for word sums up how I feel.Exiled_Addick said:I would add, I don’t think any of us should feel let down by the business done. Yes TS made some outlandish statements about blowing the league away but he never promised crazy spending. We’ve paid actual transfer fees for several players and, if the rumoured fees are correct, it could tott up to over £1 million. I don’t care what anyone says - that’s a stament of intent. We have haven’t spent that kind of money for seasons and seasons.None of us know for sure if there was a last minute increase in budget or not but, even if there was, I see that as a positive because it shows that there’s a willingness to learn and adapt. It means the intent was always there, and perhaps it was just over optimism on what was needed to be spent to get what we need rather than penny pinching.We may or may not get promoted this season. We may or may not have got this transfer window right in the end. But we are clearly now a million miles from being allowed to die the slow painful death under Roland.All I want from an owner is to run the club as a football club, run it sensibly but not solely to try and make money, and to aspire to take the club to bigger and better things while adhering to that ideal
of preserving its future. I do believe the things TS has done this window, even if it hasn’t been perfect, demonstrate he’s trying to be that kind of good owner. We should be very happy to have that.7 -
Not in the way Adkins wants to set up. But he may just have to accept he can’t play that way without Stockley, if the worst happens.JamesSeed said:
Possibly, but it would depend on when they were injured, as there’s always the January window.CAFCsayer said:Decent window and we've spent some cash, but if Purrington or Stockley get injured we are stuffedAlso, strikes me that Gunter may be improving in that LB position, and I remember Magennis getting injured and we picked up a four one away win. Stockley may be better than Josh, but he’s less influential than Lyle Taylor. Wiith our more new improved midfield I think we’ll be creating more chance and getting more players into the box.
Of course continuing the optimistic vibe, we may pick up a free agent left back, we’ll see. The birds are singing etc etc.1 - Sponsored links:
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The recruitment team have brought in players of quality on a tight budget.
The owner has backed them and maintained his long-term plan to build the club.
I feel confident the group of players we now have will give a good account of themselves against most of the teams in this division.
Eighteen months or so ago we were facing extinction.
I am more than happy.29 -
The Summer 2021 Rumours Thread is dead. Long live the January 2022 Rumours Thread.11
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JamesSeed said:
Possibly, but it would depend on when they were injured, as there’s always the January window.CAFCsayer said:Decent window and we've spent some cash, but if Purrington or Stockley get injured we are stuffedAlso, strikes me that Gunter may be improving in that LB position, and I remember Magennis getting injured and we picked up a four one away win. Stockley may be better than Josh, but he’s less influential than Lyle Taylor. Wiith our more new improved midfield I think we’ll be creating more chance and getting more players into the box.
Of course continuing the optimistic vibe, we may pick up a free agent left back, we’ll see. The birds are singing etc etc.
Need someone to hold up the ball and bring the midfield into play for them to score goals... Leko isnt going to do that. With Stockley this team looks very dangerous, without him, i'm not sure that the ball will stick
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Would be no bad thing not to get too stuck in the rut of only playing one way, as per the game without Magennis which was probably the best performance of the season if my memory isn’t playing tricks on me.Agree that the Wigan defeat might have been a blessing in disguise in terms of recruitment, after the Oxford and MK away defeats. Felt that at the time.3
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Yet we've been told since June that the window has been a disaster.AFKABartram said:
Fair point. Had a long day and probably chatting shite. Personally I’m cautiously happy with the signings, but don’t think you can ever say someone is a good or bad signing until seeing some proof one way or another.Off_it said:
But we didn't play bad or lose on Saturday, did we?AFKABartram said:
Personally I think this view is massively skewed by us winning on Sat. Suspect you (and others) would be saying very different had we played bad on Sat and lost.Covered End said:
I think it is has now been a good window.orpingtonRED said:
Why is this liked so much?PeanutsMolloy said:Good window, good squad.
congrats Recruitment team, NA and TS.
Automatic promotion here we come.
COYR
Good window my arse
It hadn't been when the season started.
We are in the promotion race and anyone that thinks otherwise is simply unhappy for other reasons, nothing to do with Charlton. COYR & thanks to Thomas Sandgaard & the team.
You could equally say that peoples views had been skewed onto a downer because we hadn't played well or won up until then.
Both statements have credibility, which is why its important to take a balanced view.
A few weeks back the general consensus that we were "5 or 6 bodies short". I don't think anyone was arguing against that.
We've now signed 5 or 6 extra bodies and whilst we can all debate about the positions or the quality of the individuals, there's surely no argument that both the first XI and the squad as a whole are stronger now than they were a couple of weeks ago.
So on that respect it's been a "good" window, and certainly not the total disaster some of the usual suspects were predicting (and possibly even hoping for, bizarrely!)
For me it's a 7.5/10.
Leko not as good as Aneke but impact off the bench with his pace and strength.
Lavalle (The Valley in French) is the CB we needed. Not sure he can play LB but as I was told yesterday they half expected Kerr to be nicked and had Sam lined up too.
Lee is a very good signing. Arter was a very good player but is he still? Lavelle a young talent and a leader.
Can only have 20 players (not a restriction Powell had) not counting kids and keepers so will have to hope no major injuries and the kids/stiffs step up like last night.
And yes LB options are not ideal and if Stockley is out we'll have to change our game but we have Connor, Leko, Lee and maybe even Davison. We DO have other strikers!
Now the players have to deliver.
Over to you Nigel
Up the Addicks.10 -
I dont think anyone can now say we dont have enough firepower ! DJ, Kirk, CBT, Leko ! other teams will be terrified by that lot.
Midfield also looking really strong with plenty of options. Yes it would have been decent to get another LB in but you cant have everything and I know Gunter got some stick but imo he didnt do much wrong.
Lavelle will be a great signing and adds to an already decent backline.
Whats not to like ?6 -
Do we think there is method behind all of our loans being linked to the club in one way or another , Akin , Leko and Arter were here before and Lee has family links , perhaps the management think that they may be more interested in the club improving rather than just seeing out a loan spell ?4
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wmcf123 said:
Yesterday’s dealings look very good . I suspect they’ve looked at this as a 2 year rebuild - we are, imo, a striker away from promotionCL_Phantom said:Very good window, would say 2 signings away from excellent, 3 from perfect.
A two year rebuilt may well happen. We need to play attractive but winning football.
I hinted at this by saying my 5 year plan was being where Millwall or Preston are now and having progressed not only on the field but kept our better youngsters; Deji and Burstow who in my opinion and I'm sure in the coaches and Management of CAFC, will play higher than League 1.
The biggest problem for Charlton fans/critics is the mindset that we have a right to be in the Championship; We Don't.
We now have a combination of Journeymen, youngsters and players that have played at their peak in the premier and Championship.
Steve Gallen, Ged Roddy, JJ, Jason and with Thomas Sandgaard backing we have assembled a squad that will give us a chance of top 6. Gallen alone will have thousands of contacts in football and I have seen how it works lower down the Pyramid.
My mantra stays the same. Relationships and link up play with variety will determine if we get to the promise land of the Championship.
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If only we had a decent centre forward who wins everything thing in the air to go along with that lot we’d be laughing! 😉AndyG said:I dont think anyone can now say we dont have enough firepower ! DJ, Kirk, CBT, Leko ! other teams will be terrified by that lot.
Midfield also looking really strong with plenty of options. Yes it would have been decent to get another LB in but you cant have everything and I know Gunter got some stick but imo he didnt do much wrong.
Lavelle will be a great signing and adds to an already decent backline.
Whats not to like ?1 -
What a night! An entertaining 6-1 win as the precursor to further excitement. Then late doors voulez-vous! (Get it?)Covered End said:Well Leko is the icing on the cake.
I'm off to bed very very happy and I sympathise with everyone who still think we need 5/6 players etc etc.
Well done TS, SG & the team, you played a blinder.0
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