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England v Italy - THE FINAL - Match Thread

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  • Grealish gives it the big one all the time, playing up to the fans and thinking he is Gazza 1990. Comes to the crunch and fucks right off like a fucking coward and let’s Saka step up in his place.
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    We had a fantastic opportunity and it felt Gareth was slow to react  from HT onwards. Mancini definitely out thought Gareth with the changes. 

    Great pens from the two Harry's but it does make you wonder why Sterling didn't take one but because of social media the racists will have a field night with Saka, Rashford and Sancho's shockers.

    Can't we just toss a coin because at least then we have a 50/50 chance.

  • Why the fuck are we letting Rashford take a pen, he’s been shit for 7 months. And Saka 18 years old, what a joke. 

    The saving grace is that this won’t be a one off this with team.
  • iainment said:
    So no fucking Bank Holiday then.
    North of the border.
  • Laddick01 said:
    Raheem Sterling, Luke Shaw, Jack Grealish you should be ashamed.

    If that’s not their decision then fair play but sometimes you just have to step up. 

    England don’t have players willing to step up.
    Sterling plays for a team notoriously terrible at scoring penalties and he’s still behind the fucking goalkeeper in the pecking order. If he wanted to take one I wouldn’t have let him near it 
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  • Sickening. But hopefully we have a team now that can get close again and again. 
  • Rothko said:
    But ya know, those who wanted to slag off Southgate have a nice slab of meat to jump on like mange ridden hyenas 
    You can really be a twisted young man at times....
  • edited July 2021
    You can see why Lyle's simple walk up was so successful. None of this weird jarring movement just bully the keeper to go the wrong way or dive early with your eyes.
  • Mancini's subs changed the game, Southgate's did not. So much for tactical nous. Italy were the better team and we allowed them to play their game by keeping our attacking players on the bench until it was too late. But Mourinho/Southgate will soldier on I am sure.
  • Why the fuck are we letting Rashford take a pen, he’s been shit for 7 months. And Saka 18 years old, what a joke. 

    The saving grace is that this won’t be a one off this with team.
    He's good at penalties.  Normally, obviously.

    Didn't have an issue with Rashford, made sense, but Sancho and Saka, it's a lot of pressure on young guys who don't normally take them.
  • My grades...

    Pickford 8.0: good save in the second half, fully did his job in penalties
    Stones: 5.5: neither good nor bad
    Maguire 7.0: not good with ball but good defense and made his pen
    Walker: 6.0: did his job
    Rice: 8.0: immense
    Phillips 6.0: did his job mostly
    Shaw: 8.5 MOM for England
    Trippier 5.0: barely noticed
    Kane 6.5: made his pen, was quite physical but got no chances
    Mount: 5.0 not his best match
    Sterling 2.5: an embarrassment with his pratfalls

    subs
    Grealish: 5.5... should have been brought on 20 min earlier
    Saka: NA: worst player of the match per minute played
    Rashford NA blew it
    Henderson NA stunk
    Sancho NA should not have been brought on

    Southgate: 3.5 bad time for his worst night as manager in this tourney
    Ref: 7.0 actually glad he let em play and did not fall for all the pratfalls.

  • Italy were the better team overall.

    We couldn’t go into pens with Walker and Henderson amongst the takers. If he hadn’t put Rashford and Sancho on and Henderson or Walker or Shaw took a pen and missed Southgate would have got criticism for not putting regular takers on.

    A hindsight call as always. It has been widely reported that the squad have practised pens regularly. It didn’t happen today but I think we were outplayed and a little out thought throughout the game.
  • MrOneLung said:
    Anyway am off to smash up some Fiat’s 
    Domino's can do one as well.
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  • edited July 2021
    Rothko said:
    Rashford Smashed a pen in against PSG
    In the last minute, so no surprise he took one. 
    He had played for 90 minutes in that game. 

    Not 2. 
    Southgate and all the coaching staff made the judgement call that the most talented penalty takers with fresh legs were a better bet than the likes of Henderson and Kyle Walker who have absolutely no business taking one.

    If you asked any of the staff, I bet they’d tell you they would do exactly the same again.

    Sometimes sh*t happens. Tonight it did.
    It wasn't a bad judgement call in itself. With the benefit of hindsight, they probably could have done with 10 minutes and could have been part of us trying to win it in extra time as well as getting a feel for things. We scored early and the 5 at the back that was supposed to change to a 3, stayed as a 5 when we had something to hold on to.

    We probably scored too early and it is fine margins. We need to look at this as a breakthrough and hopefully can target the World Cup but I really wish we could be a bit more offensive minded. Maybe we will be.
  • Oh well... We lose on penalties. Disappointing for sure but this is a young team without any baggage, they can be proud
  • I didnt expect England to do well and we lost in the FINAL on pens. Im pleased with that and well done to Gareth and the players. 

    Only grumble, if you are bringing on penalty takers after 119 mins, why not Calvert Lewin?
  • Very good first half. Very poor second half. I reckon they were told to keep it tight but then sank into a static, defensive mindset. Italy then took us apart for 35 minutes. Beyond gutted at losng on penalties but can’t really argue that it wasn’t deserved by Italy overall. Our lads had a fine tournament. They have to continue to improve but, if they do, we’ll have a decent chance of winning a World Cup or Euros with the nucleus of this young side. 
  • MrOneLung said:
    Anyway am off to smash up some Fiat’s 
    Domino's can do one as well.
    If you really want revenge, order a Hawaiian from a proper pizza shop.
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