Ok, why did a bigger crowd in May 2019 of rival football fans not experience the same issues?
Bigger 'reported' crowd.
Our play off attendance was reported as just over 76k, for the Euro final it was just over 67k, but it's estimated there was probably over 80k in the stadium not to mention about another 100k on the streets in and around Wembley/London on the day.
I think though, that if we can answer some of these questions, we can stop these people going to future events like this. Maybe drug tests and alcohol limits. Expensive to enforce, but maybe necessary for when the world is watching us. It may be a bit late now and we have no chance of the 2030 WC, but let's be honest, there are more than enough decent fans to fill this sort of event many times over.
It does make me laugh a bit how much these people are bragging about "jibbing" whilst a lot of them were paying hundreds of quid in bribes to get in.
Very good point! You're not a true "jibber" if you bribe your way in, that's just like buying a ticket off a tout! Doesn't count! Real "jibbers" should out this lot, in fact I've heard rumours "jibbers" were fighting amongst themselves inside the stadium over the legitimacy of their "jib". Madness.
Very good BBC piece there. Went in at around 5.30 to 5.45 never been so early for a game. But it was so out of control on Wembley way and was more worried about breaking my ankle of the sea of bottles. My pics with my boy are ruined by the flares which I hate and drives me mad Charlton away too.
The herberts didn’t bother me or my boy lucky and I ain’t a big bloke but that could have turned out a lot lot worse ala Hillsborough with the ticketless fans !
I think though, that if we can answer some of these questions, we can stop these people going to future events like this. Maybe drug tests and alcohol limits.
Oi, dont ruin my match day experience because of dickheads please 😅
Biggest issue these days is how widely available cocaine is and nobody seems to bat an eyelid when they see "Lads" sorting it in the pub bogs. Police need to come down really hard on this. A good start would be loads of sniffer dogs at large events and even in town centres on a saturday night
If the FA had any bollocks and was able to find them with either hand then thieving cretins like these two would never go to another football match.
In the 70’s, a quite senior copper lived over the road from us; he once told my Dad “If they didn’t go down the pub telling everybody what they had done, we wouldn’t catch any of them”. This appears to be the modern equivalent :-)
It’s been so sad reading about what happened surrounding the final and just shows how toxic some people can be.
On the flip side I was so happy with how my fellow Englishman and opposing Italians behaved in Shanghai, I went to the bar that had 1,800 people in in, probably 70% English, 30% Italian (with some Chinese supporting either side) and whilst there was loss of good natured banter there was never a hint of trouble. Anyone coming from the designated Italian area to the toilets had to walk through the massive crowd of mostly drunk English fans (3am kick off, you can imagine when many started drinking) and there was literally zero aggression shown at any point.
To be fair, only an absolute moron would cause any public trouble in China, especially a huge city like Shanghai.
For those that have not had the good fortune to go to China, worth knowing that there are huge “State Security” offices all over town and they can rustle up thousands of heavily armed Police at a moments notice.
Biggest issue these days is how widely available cocaine is and nobody seems to bat an eyelid when they see "Lads" sorting it in the pub bogs. Police need to come down really hard on this. A good start would be loads of sniffer dogs at large events and even in town centres on a saturday night
I'm surprised this hasn't popped up yet. Cocaine is in an abundance, I've definitely noticed more of it around compared to like 10 years ago (although maybe I was too young to know the signs of it then). Booze and gear are a lethal combination both literally and in terms of stupid behaviour.
Biggest issue these days is how widely available cocaine is and nobody seems to bat an eyelid when they see "Lads" sorting it in the pub bogs. Police need to come down really hard on this. A good start would be loads of sniffer dogs at large events and even in town centres on a saturday night
I'm surprised this hasn't popped up yet. Cocaine is in an abundance, I've definitely noticed more of it around compared to like 10 years ago (although maybe I was too young to know the signs of it then). Booze and gear are a lethal combination both literally and in terms of stupid behaviour.
In the good old days of The Pickwick I was not able to wash my hands as some clown was doing a line in the wash basin!
Why? They look like thugs? Could be innocent of course.
I was there the trouble makers weren’t your 40 year old plus fat baldies ( like me ) ! I wasn’t a trouble maker, just p off the money I paid for that !
Young and reckless and from all sections of society
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Our play off attendance was reported as just over 76k, for the Euro final it was just over 67k, but it's estimated there was probably over 80k in the stadium not to mention about another 100k on the streets in and around Wembley/London on the day.
They'll be publishing criminally obtained images of politicians next and claiming it's public interest whistleblowing
Oh, hang on...
The most shocking thing is he put the flare up his arms FIRST, before going on with the rest of his day haha!
Actually they probably could of got a ticket in the home end.
I remember some Chelsea fans in the east who got a slap at half time. Weren't the best at infultrating as they were wearing Chelsea scarfs.
For those that have not had the good fortune to go to China, worth knowing that there are huge “State Security” offices all over town and they can rustle up thousands of heavily armed Police at a moments notice.
You do NOT want to get put in a Chinese prison.