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Post-match thread: Oxford v Charlton | 14th Aug 2021
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Someone just said on five live: 'we're told to trust the process. What process? What's a process? What's going on?'charltonbob said:
Did he ? Haha well that's this fucking season written off then. Mighty glad I didn't buy a season ticket.Southbank said:Despite the terrible performance, the worst thing today was Sandgaard's pre match interview. He stressed the need to build slowly and said we would only be getting a 'handful' more players and they would be loans at the end of the window.
If he had then said 'we will settle for mid table' at least the strategy would make sense.
Oh, hang on, that was an Arsenal fan. But......0 -
He walked at Hull because of problems with the owners I think. I really find it hard to believe that he took this job knowing that the squad was going to be underfunded.Chunes said:I feel for Adkins. He said he wanted his squad sorted before pre-season started, and it's not even sorted two games into the season.1 -
DJ was woeful, and nothing i’ve seen from him in the last 8 months makes me think he’ll be a success here.
Washington MOM easily.4 -
Hark at the doom and gloom on here.
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I wish I was mate.Todds_right_hook said:
And your only 38ricky_otto said:
Have a good drink and forget about it mate. That’s what I’ve been doing for the last 30 odd years.ShootersHillGuru said:Yet another bolloxed up Saturday night.0 -
My genuine opinion is I don't know how he is, how badly he has been affected or what discussions and agreements he has in place with his new employers, and as a result I will be minding my own f***** business.supaclive said:
Genuinely feel sorry for the lad but do we also give him Tuesday off? And next Saturday? He took part in a signing. He gave club interviews. I'm interested to know people's genuine opinions.Chunes said:
You might want to take a break before you degrade yourself any further.supaclive said:
Why? It is 100% factually correctChunes said:
Well that's utterly unpleasant.supaclive said:
He managed to sign his bumper new contract after his £500,000 transfer.Dazzler21 said:supaclive said:Three games in and even the naysayers now realise you can't win fuck all with no left back, no left winger and no creativity in.the middle of the park.
Kirk SHOULD have been on the bench. Ridiculous to not think he could have done 20 mins.
Oxford will be up there. At this point we are SO far away it is sad.
NOW people realise we are FIVE or SIX players off competing.
We have gone backwards. Hate it. Really hate how poor our current position is.
Yes Kirk could have done 20 mins, but as he's been mourning the death of his father, it is understandable he may have needed some time.
20 minutes and a chance to earn us a point isn't beyond reasonable.
Degrade?
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Will be interested to see if Adkins gives two up front a go, to try and make us less one dimensional with the lump it up to stockley tactic. Would that suit our midfielders any more?.0
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Shit employers. When one of my team lost her father I gave her a week off work immediately as compassionate leave, a couple of days to go to the funeral and time off for counselling over the next few weeks. I also put additional support in place such as support around her caseload. I took a relaxed approach to occasional time off (half days, duvet days) in the 3 months or so following.RaplhMilne said:
I got a day off work when my parents died and a day for the funeral. No disrespect, but why should, Footballers be any different. After that it was use your holiday. An that’s working for major FTSE company. An this is not directed at Kirk, this is just a basic life statement.supaclive said:
Genuinely feel sorry for the lad but do we also give him Tuesday off? And next Saturday? He took part in a signing. He gave club interviews. I'm interested to know people's genuine opinions.Chunes said:
You might want to take a break before you degrade yourself any further.supaclive said:
Why? It is 100% factually correctChunes said:
Well that's utterly unpleasant.supaclive said:
He managed to sign his bumper new contract after his £500,000 transfer.Dazzler21 said:supaclive said:Three games in and even the naysayers now realise you can't win fuck all with no left back, no left winger and no creativity in.the middle of the park.
Kirk SHOULD have been on the bench. Ridiculous to not think he could have done 20 mins.
Oxford will be up there. At this point we are SO far away it is sad.
NOW people realise we are FIVE or SIX players off competing.
We have gone backwards. Hate it. Really hate how poor our current position is.
Yes Kirk could have done 20 mins, but as he's been mourning the death of his father, it is understandable he may have needed some time.
20 minutes and a chance to earn us a point isn't beyond reasonable.
Degrade?
Really?Stewart said:Kirk has lost his Dad and “his best friend.” Give the kid a break.22 -
I get it but in the same time they didn't sign a life changing contract with a new employer!!!Wheresmeticket? said:
Shit employers. When one of my team lost her father I gave her a week off work immediately as compassionate leave, a couple of days to go to the funeral and time off for counselling over the next few weeks. I also put additional support in place such as support around her caseload. I took a relaxed approach to occasional time off (half days, duvet days) in the 3 months or so following.RaplhMilne said:
I got a day off work when my parents died and a day for the funeral. No disrespect, but why should, Footballers be any different. After that it was use your holiday. An that’s working for major FTSE company. An this is not directed at Kirk, this is just a basic life statement.supaclive said:
Genuinely feel sorry for the lad but do we also give him Tuesday off? And next Saturday? He took part in a signing. He gave club interviews. I'm interested to know people's genuine opinions.Chunes said:
You might want to take a break before you degrade yourself any further.supaclive said:
Why? It is 100% factually correctChunes said:
Well that's utterly unpleasant.supaclive said:
He managed to sign his bumper new contract after his £500,000 transfer.Dazzler21 said:supaclive said:Three games in and even the naysayers now realise you can't win fuck all with no left back, no left winger and no creativity in.the middle of the park.
Kirk SHOULD have been on the bench. Ridiculous to not think he could have done 20 mins.
Oxford will be up there. At this point we are SO far away it is sad.
NOW people realise we are FIVE or SIX players off competing.
We have gone backwards. Hate it. Really hate how poor our current position is.
Yes Kirk could have done 20 mins, but as he's been mourning the death of his father, it is understandable he may have needed some time.
20 minutes and a chance to earn us a point isn't beyond reasonable.
Degrade?
Really?Stewart said:Kirk has lost his Dad and “his best friend.” Give the kid a break.0 -
Our midfield, which looked fluid and energetic in the PSF'S, looked disjointed and disconnected today.
Albie continues to flatter to deceive.
We completely failed to bring DJ into the game and had little threat from the other side, where Washy and Gunter is mismatch.
We are not creating anything and we don't threaten the oppo.
As a result our defence is coming under pressure and are out of ideas bringing the ball out.
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It very much depends on who those midfielders are.paulfox said:Will be interested to see if Adkins gives two up front a go, to try and make us less one dimensional with the lump it up to stockley tactic. Would that suit our midfielders any more?.0 -
This team is crying out for a player with the quality of Bannon, who we saw glimpses of last week. But Sandgaard is fixed on the idea of signing youth, a tight budget AND bringing on the youngsters that are already at the club, i.e freebies. That strategy might just work, but for it to work might take a few years as already suggested. Enthusiasm is infectious but a dose of realism soon brings the infection under control.1
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He signed for Charlton.supaclive said:
I get it but in the same time they didn't sign a life changing contract with a new employer!!!Wheresmeticket? said:
Shit employers. When one of my team lost her father I gave her a week off work immediately as compassionate leave, a couple of days to go to the funeral and time off for counselling over the next few weeks. I also put additional support in place such as support around her caseload. I took a relaxed approach to occasional time off (half days, duvet days) in the 3 months or so following.RaplhMilne said:
I got a day off work when my parents died and a day for the funeral. No disrespect, but why should, Footballers be any different. After that it was use your holiday. An that’s working for major FTSE company. An this is not directed at Kirk, this is just a basic life statement.supaclive said:
Genuinely feel sorry for the lad but do we also give him Tuesday off? And next Saturday? He took part in a signing. He gave club interviews. I'm interested to know people's genuine opinions.Chunes said:
You might want to take a break before you degrade yourself any further.supaclive said:
Why? It is 100% factually correctChunes said:
Well that's utterly unpleasant.supaclive said:
He managed to sign his bumper new contract after his £500,000 transfer.Dazzler21 said:supaclive said:Three games in and even the naysayers now realise you can't win fuck all with no left back, no left winger and no creativity in.the middle of the park.
Kirk SHOULD have been on the bench. Ridiculous to not think he could have done 20 mins.
Oxford will be up there. At this point we are SO far away it is sad.
NOW people realise we are FIVE or SIX players off competing.
We have gone backwards. Hate it. Really hate how poor our current position is.
Yes Kirk could have done 20 mins, but as he's been mourning the death of his father, it is understandable he may have needed some time.
20 minutes and a chance to earn us a point isn't beyond reasonable.
Degrade?
Really?Stewart said:Kirk has lost his Dad and “his best friend.” Give the kid a break.7 -
Just got in from the game and haven’t read the other postings on here.
I thought we were very poor. The one attacking move is to sling it up to Stockley’s head and see what happens. ( We did get the penalty from that) There was little or no play through the midfield, need Gilbert and JFC back. Oxford were the better team and deserved the win but they were very niggly, and constantly feigning injury. Weak officials helped them in this.
Hopefully we will improve when the midfielders return, I just hope that will not be too late to influence our season.
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Yes definitely, more so my point was, how flexible and willing to change things would Adkins be? It’s something we haven’t seen from him yet. Please don’t read this as me having doubts about him though.ricky_otto said:
It very much depends on who those midfielders are.paulfox said:Will be interested to see if Adkins gives two up front a go, to try and make us less one dimensional with the lump it up to stockley tactic. Would that suit our midfielders any more?.0 -
Not sure we have a drawing board to go back to but will try to stay positive for a few more weeks till the despair kicks in.0
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I'm nearly home.
Good to be doing an away day with life long friends.
Piss poor performance but having supported us for the best part of 57 years nothing I ain't used to.
Onwards and upwards as they say and an early night for me.13 -
not not sure how Morgan can be blamed for the first. Yep, he lost the ball which didn’t help but their guy on the left had so much tome to run o to our box and shoot, he should have been closed down a lot earlier0
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On way home , good drink with mates , but, can’t see many positives ?I know it’s early in season but just can’t see us scoring other than penalties, I want albie to do so well for us but he needs help, we create so little and just don’t look threatening at all, even defensively they cut through us at least 3/4 times with ease,
lots to do to even think about top 62 -
The team we had when promoted would batter this lot, clare and dobson are like a poor mans version of aribo and cullen2
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I fear these new signings are duds, could sense it by watching the game against Sheff Wed. Dobson is brushed off the ball too easily: wrong physique for a central defender. And Clare is anonymous: the game passes him by. Someone said he was "hiding" today.
Even the keeper - traditionally a strong position for us - is flaky. Muffed an easy shot: 1-0. 'Blow through this league'? Not with these players. Not with Morgan, either: he is clumsy, wasteful, and prone to howling errors.
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It’s not that bad!Showmetheway2gohome said:Bring back bowyer1 -
He was talking about your waist.ricky_otto said:
I wish I was mate.Todds_right_hook said:
And your only 38ricky_otto said:
Have a good drink and forget about it mate. That’s what I’ve been doing for the last 30 odd years.ShootersHillGuru said:Yet another bolloxed up Saturday night.1 -
All day long, nailed it.clb74 said:Hark at the doom and gloom on here.0 -
well?mid_life_crisis said:
Genuine question - do you believe the squad we started last season with is stronger or weaker than this squad?ElfsborgAddick said:F*** me, all this nonsense after two league games.
If we had won 3-0 today the very same people slagging things off would have been singing a different tune. Get a grip.
As SeriouslyRidiculous could say, "let's see where we are after 15 games".0 -
When my Dad passed at the beginning of December (2004) I was told to take all of December off, not holiday they were giving me a month off.ElliotCAFC said:
Just because a major FTSE company has a complete lack of morals doesn’t mean we have to sink to those lows.RaplhMilne said:
I got a day off work when my parents died and a day for the funeral. No disrespect, but why should, Footballers be any different. After that it was use your holiday. An that’s working for major FTSE company. An this is not directed at Kirk, this is just a basic life statement.supaclive said:
Genuinely feel sorry for the lad but do we also give him Tuesday off? And next Saturday? He took part in a signing. He gave club interviews. I'm interested to know people's genuine opinions.Chunes said:
You might want to take a break before you degrade yourself any further.supaclive said:
Why? It is 100% factually correctChunes said:
Well that's utterly unpleasant.supaclive said:
He managed to sign his bumper new contract after his £500,000 transfer.Dazzler21 said:supaclive said:Three games in and even the naysayers now realise you can't win fuck all with no left back, no left winger and no creativity in.the middle of the park.
Kirk SHOULD have been on the bench. Ridiculous to not think he could have done 20 mins.
Oxford will be up there. At this point we are SO far away it is sad.
NOW people realise we are FIVE or SIX players off competing.
We have gone backwards. Hate it. Really hate how poor our current position is.
Yes Kirk could have done 20 mins, but as he's been mourning the death of his father, it is understandable he may have needed some time.
20 minutes and a chance to earn us a point isn't beyond reasonable.
Degrade?
Really?Stewart said:Kirk has lost his Dad and “his best friend.” Give the kid a break.The “I suffered so why shouldn’t he” mentality leaves a very cold view of reality1 -
Footballers are certainly in a place of privilege, and often too much so. But shouldn't the argument here be that we should all have this good treatment? With companies offering adequate support and time to recover. Rather than arguing footballs should be brought down to our shitty level?RaplhMilne said:
I got a day off work when my parents died and a day for the funeral. No disrespect, but why should, Footballers be any different. After that it was use your holiday. An that’s working for major FTSE company. An this is not directed at Kirk, this is just a basic life statement.supaclive said:
Genuinely feel sorry for the lad but do we also give him Tuesday off? And next Saturday? He took part in a signing. He gave club interviews. I'm interested to know people's genuine opinions.Chunes said:
You might want to take a break before you degrade yourself any further.supaclive said:
Why? It is 100% factually correctChunes said:
Well that's utterly unpleasant.supaclive said:
He managed to sign his bumper new contract after his £500,000 transfer.Dazzler21 said:supaclive said:Three games in and even the naysayers now realise you can't win fuck all with no left back, no left winger and no creativity in.the middle of the park.
Kirk SHOULD have been on the bench. Ridiculous to not think he could have done 20 mins.
Oxford will be up there. At this point we are SO far away it is sad.
NOW people realise we are FIVE or SIX players off competing.
We have gone backwards. Hate it. Really hate how poor our current position is.
Yes Kirk could have done 20 mins, but as he's been mourning the death of his father, it is understandable he may have needed some time.
20 minutes and a chance to earn us a point isn't beyond reasonable.
Degrade?
Really?Stewart said:Kirk has lost his Dad and “his best friend.” Give the kid a break.5 -
Today weren’t good , you can’t dress it up.
We've had 27 managers in our history, 14 in the last 10 years, we need stability and backing, 5 year plan, it will take 5 years to get out of league one with this lot, nothing in the final 3rd.
Best thing about today was the vocal support from the Charlton fans, a lot of our players won’t have heard this before from Charlton fans, glad Nige and the players came across to acknowledge them at the end.3 -
That bench was dire defently no game changers there2
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Tactics are non league esque just rush kick and hope longballs0
