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Elliot Lee - gone to Wrexham (p15)

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,823
    Interesting words from Elliot. Nice to know he cared/cares.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Some of the people above = Martin and Thomas.
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,338
    Technically good but not athletic enough

  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    Very refreshing to hear a player talk like that. Those first few games he looked to be a great signing, I wonder how much the nonsense going on around him affected his mindset.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,475
    I don't follow every twist and turn, but I hadn't heard it Sangaard's running of the club affecting the playing staff (apart from recruitment), just the non-playing staff. If it also affects the playing staff then that is...alarming, to say the least. 
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,898
    Wouldn’t it be nice if they just felt able to say / explain what things went / go on. 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,507
    Liked him meself 
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,658
    Hate to say it, but the way we’re going, could be playing Wrexham next season.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,187
    Gribbo said:
    Liked him meself 
    Cos he’s part of your good beard clan ! 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,133
    SDAddick said:
    I don't follow every twist and turn, but I hadn't heard it Sangaard's running of the club affecting the playing staff (apart from recruitment), just the non-playing staff. If it also affects the playing staff then that is...alarming, to say the least. 
    Precisely.

    You are a professional footballer, the non-playing staff goings on should not be an issue if they are not interfering with you.

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  • BrentfordAddick
    BrentfordAddick Posts: 1,460
    Disagree, it's a workplace atmosphere thing. Footballers aren't gods just normal employees. 
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,743
    BrentfordAddick said:
    Disagree, it's a workplace atmosphere thing. Footballers aren't gods just normal employees. 
    Agree.

    EVERYTHING around & about our club is toxic at this moment in time. 

    Why would the players be immune from being affected ? 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    SDAddick said:
    I don't follow every twist and turn, but I hadn't heard it Sangaard's running of the club affecting the playing staff (apart from recruitment), just the non-playing staff. If it also affects the playing staff then that is...alarming, to say the least. 
    We are so close to the "end of Rome" I don't think it matters if I say this now.

    The problems started a couple of months after the takeover.  Bowyer, Adkins, Jackson and Garner all hinted at it.

    The lack of discipline and players not doing what they were told.  It all comes from people (Thomas firstly, then mainly Martin) undermining the manager, slagging players off to others, telling players they should be playing when they weren't etc etc.
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,743
    Cafc43v3r said:
    SDAddick said:
    I don't follow every twist and turn, but I hadn't heard it Sangaard's running of the club affecting the playing staff (apart from recruitment), just the non-playing staff. If it also affects the playing staff then that is...alarming, to say the least. 
    We are so close to the "end of Rome" I don't think it matters if I say this now.

    The problems started a couple of months after the takeover.  Bowyer, Adkins, Jackson and Garner all hinted at it.

    The lack of discipline and players not doing what they were told.  It all comes from people (Thomas firstly, then mainly Martin) undermining the manager, slagging players off to others, telling players they should be playing when they weren't etc etc.
    That sounds as likely an explanation of the "c" word than I've read previously. 

    The Sandgaards have a helluva lot to answer for. 

    How anyone can doubt that, needs their head wobbled ( hope that's the correct phrase !)
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,475
    Cafc43v3r said:
    SDAddick said:
    I don't follow every twist and turn, but I hadn't heard it Sangaard's running of the club affecting the playing staff (apart from recruitment), just the non-playing staff. If it also affects the playing staff then that is...alarming, to say the least. 
    We are so close to the "end of Rome" I don't think it matters if I say this now.

    The problems started a couple of months after the takeover.  Bowyer, Adkins, Jackson and Garner all hinted at it.

    The lack of discipline and players not doing what they were told.  It all comes from people (Thomas firstly, then mainly Martin) undermining the manager, slagging players off to others, telling players they should be playing when they weren't etc etc.
    That explains a lot. But for me, that makes things far worse than what I've seen to this point. 
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,547
    Given the Martin - Washington - Jackson fiasco it's not hard to imagine other cases of club  and playing staff altercations. 

    Gotta make use of that training gear.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,708
    Hang on, I thought it was his dad who was a turnstile at The Valley, turns out it was his grandfather also.
  • Kips
    Kips Posts: 690
    guinnessaddick said:
    Hang on, I thought it was his dad who was a turnstile at The Valley, turns out it was his grandfather also.
    And didn't Elliott have a go himself the second half of last season to keep up the family tradition. He certainly disappeared somewhere whilst he was still on the pay roll...
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,466
    guinnessaddick said:
    Hang on, I thought it was his dad who was a turnstile at The Valley, turns out it was his grandfather also.
    His dad was a turnstile??
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,832
    ct_addick said:
    Technically good but not athletic enough

    He started well and the early days of the Gilbey, Dobbo, Lee midfield were quite good . Jacks couldn’t legislate for the outer 2 losing the plot 

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,823
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  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,415
    That's an Elliot Lee cross. 
  • balham red
    balham red Posts: 1,289
    mendonca said:
    That's an Elliot Lee cross. 
    Must be. And if it wasn't an attempted cross, then it would have been a poor decision considering their striker was free at the back post.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,261
    Good for him, I liked him and was sad it didn't work out better. Glad he is ripping it up for them 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,415
    The contract was there for him. He just managed to play himself out of it somehow. He fell behind Albie in the pecking order, partly as he couldn't beat the first man on fks and corners. 
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    I think he’s a lot better than the national league but then most Wrexham players are 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    CH4RLTON said:
    I think he’s a lot better than the national league but then most Wrexham players are 
    I don't think there is a massive difference between the bottom half of league 1 and the top 5 or 6 teams in the conference.  You don't seem to get clubs yo-yoing like Norwich and Fulham or Rotherham and Barnsley between league 1, 2 and the national league.

    It's only Forest Green, I think, that were promoted and in the relegation zone or relegated and in the promotion places.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,133
    Have seen he's reportedly on 6k a week, good money.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,261
    Thats a sensible observation as well, you could probably swap out the whole bottom half of league 2 for the top half of the national league as so many of them are on the up, have money behind them and aren't carrying the overheads of a bigger or older stadium whilst also being fully professional. They are growing at a sustainable rate whereas tons of clubs in league 2 are properly struggling 

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