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Sam Lavelle - gone to Carlisle on a 2year deal (p22)
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Good luck to him. He tried, but just wasn’t able to make an impact here. Hope he does better at Carlisle2
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I wish him well. I'm sure he'll play a blinder against us when we play Carlisle this season.1
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ButtleJR said:Scoham said:Holden’s comments here make me think of Lavelle.
Not that he didn’t put the effort in because I think he did, but handling that step up in expectations and continuing to improve as a player. That might be the biggest difference between Lavelle and someone like Lockyer who did well in the Championship and has continued to progress.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-holden-really-comfortable-with-transfer-window-state-of-play-for-addicks/We need to make sure we not only bring the right quality of player in but also the right mentality as well.
Simon Francis didn’t have that when he was here, but he grew in confidence at Bournemouth and was a huge success. He went from looking like a lower league journeyman at best to being a PL player.
Take that confidence away from someone like Darren Pratley and he wouldn’t have played as high as he did.2 -
golfaddick said:I wish him well. I'm sure he'll play a blinder against us when we play Carlisle this season.0
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Chunes said:SDAddick said:ButtleJR said:Scoham said:Holden’s comments here make me think of Lavelle.
Not that he didn’t put the effort in because I think he did, but handling that step up in expectations and continuing to improve as a player. That might be the biggest difference between Lavelle and someone like Lockyer who did well in the Championship and has continued to progress.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-holden-really-comfortable-with-transfer-window-state-of-play-for-addicks/We need to make sure we not only bring the right quality of player in but also the right mentality as well.
The answer may be that he's much better defending deeper, and he looks more assured when the entire game is in front of him.
I think he might be the worst signing for a fee of this regime. Chuks is good when he plays, he doesn't play much, the club took a risk, in my mind it was far too big of a risk, and it failed. Stockley was coming off of a good season with us even though the way we wanted to play (even under Adkins) didn't suit him. Fraser has been good. DJ was a bit of a panic buy I feel, after we'd had to get so many players in at the last minute. We've seen what Kirk can do, it just hasn't worked out for him here, and he's another one where we haven't always played to his strong suits. Clare was a nominal fee, and we got a couple of decent years out of him. And I think that just leaves Lavelle, who was never first choice apart from when other CBs were injured.0 -
SDAddick said:Chunes said:SDAddick said:ButtleJR said:Scoham said:Holden’s comments here make me think of Lavelle.
Not that he didn’t put the effort in because I think he did, but handling that step up in expectations and continuing to improve as a player. That might be the biggest difference between Lavelle and someone like Lockyer who did well in the Championship and has continued to progress.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-holden-really-comfortable-with-transfer-window-state-of-play-for-addicks/We need to make sure we not only bring the right quality of player in but also the right mentality as well.
The answer may be that he's much better defending deeper, and he looks more assured when the entire game is in front of him.
I think he might be the worst signing for a fee of this regime. Chuks is good when he plays, he doesn't play much, the club took a risk, in my mind it was far too big of a risk, and it failed. Stockley was coming off of a good season with us even though the way we wanted to play (even under Adkins) didn't suit him. Fraser has been good. DJ was a bit of a panic buy I feel, after we'd had to get so many players in at the last minute. We've seen what Kirk can do, it just hasn't worked out for him here, and he's another one where we haven't always played to his strong suits. Clare was a nominal fee, and we got a couple of decent years out of him. And I think that just leaves Lavelle, who was never first choice apart from when other CBs were injured.
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mendonca said:Dazzler21 said:Callumcafc said:0
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I'm going to get a few, 'I was there' t shirts made up for the Welling game on Saturday, seeing this great defender, play and score in his last game for us.
anybody want one?1 -
Dazzler21 said:mendonca said:Dazzler21 said:Callumcafc said:1
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I don't often criticise players but I am amazed that people thought he did okay when he first arrived. My recollection is that he did little right and was so unbelievably slow. I've seen the proverbial oil tankers turn more quickly than him. It is right that he has gone.3
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Best of luck Sam. Seemed a nice lad, just never managed to find the level we’re looking for. The winning penalty vs. Brighton should be a happy memory at least.
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killerandflash said:Sometimes moves just don't work out. This sounds like a good move for him, and the right "level" of club
Born Blackpool, started at Blackburn, signed for Bolton, played most of his career for Morecambe, played for Scotland U18s. Everything about him smacks of being a northerner. For some players it is about being comfortable in your surroundings and he will be much closer to home now than living in south east London.3 -
cafcfan said:I don't often criticise players but I am amazed that people thought he did okay when he first arrived. My recollection is that he did little right and was so unbelievably slow. I've seen the proverbial oil tankers turn more quickly than him. It is right that he has gone.
At League One level that was always going to be exploited. And it was.
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Best of lick Sam hope you have a great season0
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Oggy Red said:cafcfan said:I don't often criticise players but I am amazed that people thought he did okay when he first arrived. My recollection is that he did little right and was so unbelievably slow. I've seen the proverbial oil tankers turn more quickly than him. It is right that he has gone.
At League One level that was always going to be exploited. And it was.1 -
Garrymanilow said:SDAddick said:Chunes said:SDAddick said:ButtleJR said:Scoham said:Holden’s comments here make me think of Lavelle.
Not that he didn’t put the effort in because I think he did, but handling that step up in expectations and continuing to improve as a player. That might be the biggest difference between Lavelle and someone like Lockyer who did well in the Championship and has continued to progress.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-holden-really-comfortable-with-transfer-window-state-of-play-for-addicks/We need to make sure we not only bring the right quality of player in but also the right mentality as well.
The answer may be that he's much better defending deeper, and he looks more assured when the entire game is in front of him.
I think he might be the worst signing for a fee of this regime. Chuks is good when he plays, he doesn't play much, the club took a risk, in my mind it was far too big of a risk, and it failed. Stockley was coming off of a good season with us even though the way we wanted to play (even under Adkins) didn't suit him. Fraser has been good. DJ was a bit of a panic buy I feel, after we'd had to get so many players in at the last minute. We've seen what Kirk can do, it just hasn't worked out for him here, and he's another one where we haven't always played to his strong suits. Clare was a nominal fee, and we got a couple of decent years out of him. And I think that just leaves Lavelle, who was never first choice apart from when other CBs were injured.
Okay, I amend it, Lavelle maybe the second worst.0 -
Scoham said:Oggy Red said:cafcfan said:I don't often criticise players but I am amazed that people thought he did okay when he first arrived. My recollection is that he did little right and was so unbelievably slow. I've seen the proverbial oil tankers turn more quickly than him. It is right that he has gone.
At League One level that was always going to be exploited. And it was.
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SDAddick said:Garrymanilow said:SDAddick said:Chunes said:SDAddick said:ButtleJR said:Scoham said:Holden’s comments here make me think of Lavelle.
Not that he didn’t put the effort in because I think he did, but handling that step up in expectations and continuing to improve as a player. That might be the biggest difference between Lavelle and someone like Lockyer who did well in the Championship and has continued to progress.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-holden-really-comfortable-with-transfer-window-state-of-play-for-addicks/We need to make sure we not only bring the right quality of player in but also the right mentality as well.
The answer may be that he's much better defending deeper, and he looks more assured when the entire game is in front of him.
I think he might be the worst signing for a fee of this regime. Chuks is good when he plays, he doesn't play much, the club took a risk, in my mind it was far too big of a risk, and it failed. Stockley was coming off of a good season with us even though the way we wanted to play (even under Adkins) didn't suit him. Fraser has been good. DJ was a bit of a panic buy I feel, after we'd had to get so many players in at the last minute. We've seen what Kirk can do, it just hasn't worked out for him here, and he's another one where we haven't always played to his strong suits. Clare was a nominal fee, and we got a couple of decent years out of him. And I think that just leaves Lavelle, who was never first choice apart from when other CBs were injured.
Okay, I amend it, Lavelle maybe the second worst.
The Schwartz signing stunk of Sandgaard bringing a Dane over himself and the geezer being s***, I'd love to know what went on behind the scenes.
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decent move for Lavelle .. I'm sure we never saw the best of him playing for us1
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Lincsaddick said:decent move for Lavelle .. I'm sure we never saw the best of him playing for us
He joins a very long list.
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ElfsborgAddick said:Lincsaddick said:decent move for Lavelle .. I'm sure we never saw the best of him playing for us
He joins a very long list.0 -
Lincsaddick said:ElfsborgAddick said:Lincsaddick said:decent move for Lavelle .. I'm sure we never saw the best of him playing for us
He joins a very long list.
A lonnnnggggg trip.
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ElfsborgAddick said:Lincsaddick said:ElfsborgAddick said:Lincsaddick said:decent move for Lavelle .. I'm sure we never saw the best of him playing for us
He joins a very long list.
A lonnnnggggg trip.1 -
Tried his best but was so slow .
Good luck on the move. Any room for DJ and Kirk in the taxi to Carlisle ?0 -
Pleased for Sam and for Cafc in Lavelle's move to Carlisle.
Mitchell and Deji can be options along with the 3 senior CB in Thomas, Hector and Jones. Plus Ness when he is fit for selection.
Good luck to Sam in 44 matches next season.
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soapboxsam said:Pleased for Sam and for Cafc in Lavelle's move to Carlisle.
Mitchell and Deji can be options along with the 3 senior CB in Thomas, Hector and Jones.
Good luck to Sam in 44 matches next season.
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Scoham said:soapboxsam said:Pleased for Sam and for Cafc in Lavelle's move to Carlisle.
Mitchell and Deji can be options along with the 3 senior CB in Thomas, Hector and Jones.
Good luck to Sam in 44 matches next season.0 -
Oggy Red said:Scoham said:Oggy Red said:cafcfan said:I don't often criticise players but I am amazed that people thought he did okay when he first arrived. My recollection is that he did little right and was so unbelievably slow. I've seen the proverbial oil tankers turn more quickly than him. It is right that he has gone.
At League One level that was always going to be exploited. And it was.
But you're right in that it's not a death knell for a CB. Hector is a good example where he isn't rapid (though I'd say quicker than the four listed) but his reading of the game makes it so that pace is rarely an issue (I also think he'll be in better shape going into this season, he hadn't played much in the previous 18 months when he joined us).
Bauer was a good example of being slow but reading danger well. Tal Ben Haim was able to do pretty well with it in the Championship (with a very athletic CB next to him), but he looked so slow at Chelsea and City.0 -
Scoham said:soapboxsam said:Pleased for Sam and for Cafc in Lavelle's move to Carlisle.
Mitchell and Deji can be options along with the 3 senior CB in Thomas, Hector and Jones.
Good luck to Sam in 44 matches next season.0 -
LargeAddick said:Scoham said:soapboxsam said:Pleased for Sam and for Cafc in Lavelle's move to Carlisle.
Mitchell and Deji can be options along with the 3 senior CB in Thomas, Hector and Jones.
Good luck to Sam in 44 matches next season.1