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THOMAS SANDGAARD COMPLETES FIRST YEAR OWNERSHIP ON SATURDAY 25TH SEPTEMBER

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  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    Todds_right_hook said:
    iainment said:
    It’s no better than when he took over. Of course I wouldn’t want the arseholes who were owners then to be owners now. It would have been worse under them.
    But it isn’t better now under Sandgaard.
    What isn’t better?  

    We are currently on a bad run on the pitch, granted but we are signing players on long contracts, we are building for the future. The 5 year comment was stupid but we have an off field strategy in place now

    how else are we not better off? Are crooks taking other crooks to court claiming ownership?

    are we under a transfer embargo where the chairman forgot to tell the fans?

    is Tommy’s wife sending invoices for £80k for interior design?

    land rovers and bitches

    city flats for £12k a month

    Do I need to carry on?
    For me the comparison isnt to that utter disaster of an ownership which was undeniably terrible.

    It is more the comparison to the Roland generation - where we went all in on our CEO and the owner. Who weren't doing any of the above, but were (rightfully) not immune from criticism of stuff they did do wrong.

    I am not comparing to MS and Elliott etc..... I am comparing to the owner at a time when we had JBG, Buyens, Bulot, Texeira, Bauer, Taylor etc coming in and infinitely better football on the pitch. Thats the bit that seems out of kilter - if Roland and KM had been overseeing this transfer window and on field performance they would have been lynched.

  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    DamoNorthStand said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    iainment said:
    It’s no better than when he took over. Of course I wouldn’t want the arseholes who were owners then to be owners now. It would have been worse under them.
    But it isn’t better now under Sandgaard.
    What isn’t better?  

    We are currently on a bad run on the pitch, granted but we are signing players on long contracts, we are building for the future. The 5 year comment was stupid but we have an off field strategy in place now

    how else are we not better off? Are crooks taking other crooks to court claiming ownership?

    are we under a transfer embargo where the chairman forgot to tell the fans?

    is Tommy’s wife sending invoices for £80k for interior design?

    land rovers and bitches

    city flats for £12k a month

    Do I need to carry on?
    For me the comparison isnt to that utter disaster of an ownership which was undeniably terrible.

    It is more the comparison to the Roland generation - where we went all in on our CEO and the owner. Who weren't doing any of the above, but were (rightfully) not immune from criticism of stuff they did do wrong.

    I am not comparing to MS and Elliott etc..... I am comparing to the owner at a time when we had JBG, Buyens, Bulot, Texeira, Bauer, Taylor etc coming in and infinitely better football on the pitch. Thats the bit that seems out of kilter - if Roland and KM had been overseeing this transfer window and on field performance they would have been lynched.

    That team was in the Championship, and then faded badly in the second half of the season, and was relegated a year later. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    DamoNorthStand said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    iainment said:
    It’s no better than when he took over. Of course I wouldn’t want the arseholes who were owners then to be owners now. It would have been worse under them.
    But it isn’t better now under Sandgaard.
    What isn’t better?  

    We are currently on a bad run on the pitch, granted but we are signing players on long contracts, we are building for the future. The 5 year comment was stupid but we have an off field strategy in place now

    how else are we not better off? Are crooks taking other crooks to court claiming ownership?

    are we under a transfer embargo where the chairman forgot to tell the fans?

    is Tommy’s wife sending invoices for £80k for interior design?

    land rovers and bitches

    city flats for £12k a month

    Do I need to carry on?
    For me the comparison isnt to that utter disaster of an ownership which was undeniably terrible.

    It is more the comparison to the Roland generation - where we went all in on our CEO and the owner. Who weren't doing any of the above, but were (rightfully) not immune from criticism of stuff they did do wrong.

    I am not comparing to MS and Elliott etc..... I am comparing to the owner at a time when we had JBG, Buyens, Bulot, Texeira, Bauer, Taylor etc coming in and infinitely better football on the pitch. Thats the bit that seems out of kilter - if Roland and KM had been overseeing this transfer window and on field performance they would have been lynched.

    I think one day we’ll be able to have a rational conversation about the Roland era, but it’s still too raw now. That being said, just because what came next (Manchester chancers, Arab mystery men and Welsh dentist accountants) was worse doesn’t mean we were wrong to want Roland out. As fans are should establish the standards we expect ownership to meet, if they fall below those standards we need to let them know. If they fail to correct after we let them know then things escalate. I think a mini example of this is Sandgaard’s “Addicks to Victory” debacle. It was made clear to him that messing with the RRR was interfering with the history and culture of our club and he corrected the mistake.  
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    DamoNorthStand said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    iainment said:
    It’s no better than when he took over. Of course I wouldn’t want the arseholes who were owners then to be owners now. It would have been worse under them.
    But it isn’t better now under Sandgaard.
    What isn’t better?  

    We are currently on a bad run on the pitch, granted but we are signing players on long contracts, we are building for the future. The 5 year comment was stupid but we have an off field strategy in place now

    how else are we not better off? Are crooks taking other crooks to court claiming ownership?

    are we under a transfer embargo where the chairman forgot to tell the fans?

    is Tommy’s wife sending invoices for £80k for interior design?

    land rovers and bitches

    city flats for £12k a month

    Do I need to carry on?
    For me the comparison isnt to that utter disaster of an ownership which was undeniably terrible.

    It is more the comparison to the Roland generation - where we went all in on our CEO and the owner. Who weren't doing any of the above, but were (rightfully) not immune from criticism of stuff they did do wrong.

    I am not comparing to MS and Elliott etc..... I am comparing to the owner at a time when we had JBG, Buyens, Bulot, Texeira, Bauer, Taylor etc coming in and infinitely better football on the pitch. Thats the bit that seems out of kilter - if Roland and KM had been overseeing this transfer window and on field performance they would have been lynched.

    That was also an owner who treated fans (sorry, I mean "customers") with contempt, foisted an incompetent underling to "run" things and spared the club about 2% of his time.

    Give me an owner who actually cares any day. Some good players came in under Roland but there was some absolutely awful dross too - Thuram, Polish Pete etc. Let's not rewrite history here.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    DamoNorthStand said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    iainment said:
    It’s no better than when he took over. Of course I wouldn’t want the arseholes who were owners then to be owners now. It would have been worse under them.
    But it isn’t better now under Sandgaard.
    What isn’t better?  

    We are currently on a bad run on the pitch, granted but we are signing players on long contracts, we are building for the future. The 5 year comment was stupid but we have an off field strategy in place now

    how else are we not better off? Are crooks taking other crooks to court claiming ownership?

    are we under a transfer embargo where the chairman forgot to tell the fans?

    is Tommy’s wife sending invoices for £80k for interior design?

    land rovers and bitches

    city flats for £12k a month

    Do I need to carry on?
    For me the comparison isnt to that utter disaster of an ownership which was undeniably terrible.

    It is more the comparison to the Roland generation - where we went all in on our CEO and the owner. Who weren't doing any of the above, but were (rightfully) not immune from criticism of stuff they did do wrong.

    I am not comparing to MS and Elliott etc..... I am comparing to the owner at a time when we had JBG, Buyens, Bulot, Texeira, Bauer, Taylor etc coming in and infinitely better football on the pitch. Thats the bit that seems out of kilter - if Roland and KM had been overseeing this transfer window and on field performance they would have been lynched.
    But Sandgaard didn't take over from Roland, he took over from the guys that were asset stripping the club. Sandgaard also doesn't have the same wealth of Roland so expectations at least on my part are somewhat reduced despite intentions of PL in x years. 
  • YTS1978
    YTS1978 Posts: 1,701
    TS is still well in credit with me, but he's now learning that football is a fickle business I feel. Last season was a free hit, he took over, did what he needed to do player wise and secured the immediate future of the training ground and Valley. Everyone loved him. He's very much learning on the job and I feel everything he's done so far has been with good intentions. The transfer window has been a disaster really though, and all that talk of "blowing it out of the water" looks ridiculous now. But, he has spent money, nearly a million quid it seems, so that's a fair old commitment and to be applauded.  Whether it was spent on the right players is harder to judge! Fans are frustrated and have vented that frustration at games, which must have been a shock! I'm pretty confident he'll learn from the mistakes and we will improve on and off the pitch, but that 5yr plan to be playing in Europe doesn't look too likely at this moment in time. So yeah, he does deserve our thanks, but I'd rather be singing a players name as it means we've done something on the pitch, the owner should be in the background enjoying this too, not on the pitch with his axe lol COYA
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    End of year report .. 'an enthusiastic chap but needs to watch who he employs and hangs round with. An aspiring musician who knows how to make a pound or two and is very careful how he spends it. All in all a mixed start and he could do a lot better' B-
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  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    He saved us and has spent the most in the division on transfer fees this season. He employed a manager with a good track record but early on in the season it has not gone to plan.

    How anyone can suggest TS is the bad guy is really beyond me.
    Have a word.
    How many are actually calling him a bad guy?
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    clb74 said:
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    He saved us and has spent the most in the division on transfer fees this season. He employed a manager with a good track record but early on in the season it has not gone to plan.

    How anyone can suggest TS is the bad guy is really beyond me.
    Have a word.
    How many are actually calling him a bad guy?
    Depends where you look. On here, only one or two but in the stinking cesspit that is social media it's depressingly higher.
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    clb74 said:
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    He saved us and has spent the most in the division on transfer fees this season. He employed a manager with a good track record but early on in the season it has not gone to plan.

    How anyone can suggest TS is the bad guy is really beyond me.
    Have a word.
    How many are actually calling him a bad guy?
    Sadly mate look at social media and some other forums, people are being abusive, people telling him to sell up and fuck off etc etc. 
    As I keep saying, yep he's made mistakes and needs to put them right, including in my opinion, getting a UK CEO (a proper one..maybe PV?), to run things for him, he still needs to concentrate on Zynex, but I'll also say again I believe without him we may not have a club, if I remember rightly we were 48 hours from admin.
    I get the frustration of the teams position, but being abusive, thinking he's not all he seems is going beyond the limits in my opinion.
    I've actually seen people saying they want Roland back!!! TS has been here 12 months, things appear better off the pitch, now HIS team need to make sure that the team on the pitch deliver.
    By the way I won't be singing his name, it's not my cup of tea, but those that do or don't is fine by me.
  • PowellsHeadedGoal
    PowellsHeadedGoal Posts: 54
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    He saved us and has spent the most in the division on transfer fees this season. He employed a manager with a good track record but early on in the season it has not gone to plan.

    How anyone can suggest TS is the bad guy is really beyond me.
    He's not a bad guy, can't say I've seen him called that personally but I would imagine I'm just not looking in the right places! 

    As I said he's not a bad guy, just a totally deluded one who has made more than his fair share of incorrect decisions thus far and possibly someone who doesn't perhaps have the capitol as some of us thought he did. Not a bad guy but in my opinion not what we need and things haven't improved since Roland left - on the pitch that is which is all I (and I would imagine most of the fan base) really care about! 
  • Tunwellsaddick
    Tunwellsaddick Posts: 2,452
    ct_addick said:
    A lot of people on here have short memories.....we were in the the grips of con-men who were asset stripping the club and would have driven us into admin and possibly extinction. Yes we are 23rd in L1 but we have a decent squad who will take a little time to gel and hopefully push on.  Thanks you TS
    Well said. Summed up in a nutshell.
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596

    I will keep the champagne and singing on ice for now, while the current sh*t show continues.

    Of course, Mr Sandgaard is a legitimate business person and seemingly nice fella,  who deserves basic levels of respect and courtesy but my early optimism has 100% gone.

    I just hope he isn't a wealthy narcissist on a self-financed ego trip because something is profoundly wrong at the club at the moment and it needs sorting out. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    edited September 2021
    Maybe the club should do some sort of promotional exercise as to what has gone on behind the scenes at the club the last few years and how the club has suffered beyond what we see on the pitch.

    Am sure a lot of people only care what happens for 90mins from 3pm so will see it as nothing more than a PR exercise...

    But small things like hearing about Gallen having to do everything himself with no support (which didnt help his health) to now having scouts who go out for him etc... Or the fact that the "Gym" (?) at Sparrows Lane was nothing more than a marquee tent and that we barely had any equipment to try and prevent any kind of injuries!! - As we're seeing with Derby County, a football club isnt just about the Manager and the squad of players. There are people in the background who work bloody hard and have no doubt had restrictions put upon them.

    Lets hear about how Sandgaard is making everyone's life better and easier and potentially dispel the rumour that he's simply pissing around with his guitar whilst the Valley burns.

    Yes what happens on the pitch matters a massive amount, this is a Football club after all and results havent been perfect.

    But imagine there is a lot of ignorance too on what needs to be fixed within the club to get it back to normality.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Matthew Southall has just purchased 25% of Rochdale. (On behalf of someone I would imagine ) so off the field we are so much better even if the chain of command appears hazy.

    If after 18 games and Charlton aren't taking shape and in the top 10 I would imagine Nigel Adkins would leave by mutual consent with possibly a years salary and he will work for the Hampshire tourist board describing best walks in the county. That would be brilliant and I would like that.

    Nigel's happy, the fans are happy because Chris Wilder accepts the biggest challenge of his career and the five year plan starts a year late.

    Ok, very unlikely but so was a Danish guy turning up from Colorado to oust the bad guys and save us from Leeches.

    "Walking in a Wilder Wonderland"
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    iainment said:
    It’s no better than when he took over. Of course I wouldn’t want the arseholes who were owners then to be owners now. It would have been worse under them.
    But it isn’t better now under Sandgaard.
     :D:D:D:D:D:D  
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  • Raith_C_Chattonell
    Raith_C_Chattonell Posts: 5,677
    While Charlton's alive, the dream is alive.  There is only one man to thank for that.


  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,167
    edited September 2021
    blackpool72 said:
    I must be living in an alternative  reality. 
    Roland owns the valley. 
    Roland owns sparrows lane. 
    We are almost bottom of the third division. 
    I won't be singing  that stupid song that's for sure. 
    Perhaps Tommy can play his guitar while you sing along. 
    Yeah, no point having a Charlton if they're not winning all the time is there? Fuck off Sandgaard, should have let us die if you weren't going to win all the matches.
    You're conflating two different things. Sandgaard is the reason we have a Charlton at all. That doesn't mean it's perfect, but the quality of the football is a separate issue to the fact we can all quite comfortably take a moment to appreciate that thanks to the man we have a team to be pissed off at. If you can't separate acknowledgement of him saving us from being annoyed that we lost to Cheltenham then it sounds like you'll only be happy when we're winning, and this might not be the right club for that
  • Addickhead86
    Addickhead86 Posts: 1,148
    If he had come in and said that he was in it for the long haul, but the state the club was left in means that it will take time to build up, without giving the dreams of PL football I think most fans would have forgiven a dodgy start to this season as teething problems.
  • Clarky
    Clarky Posts: 582
    I am sure TS has made mistakes and he probably did in his first year of building his multi million pound company. However, to even doubt we are not in a better place than we were just over 12 months ago is frankly ludicrous. Yes, we are off to an extremely poor start on the field, one that none of us wants or probably predicated but we do have the players to turn it around. One mistake was doing our transfer business too late and we are paying the price for that, however once Arter, Lee, Soare and Leko are up to speed and Purrington and Gilbey fully recover I would be amazed if results don't improve.
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,891
    cafcnick1992 said:
    LoOkOuT said:
    Nuffink queer as Charlton folk. Thomas Sandgaard is in plenty of credit with me.
    Massively in credit. Only simple minds would conclude anything else.
    I don't imagine Jim Kerr et al really care tbh.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,496
    What a time to take over a club any club …. but with all the craziness of our takeover he deserves a medal … he should have a statue ..

    TS has brought back the old Charlton and it’s values .. Charlton people involved with the club again 

    it’s going to take time , but this club had to be rebuilt from the bottom upwards it was just not about the team 

  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,496
    Redmidland said:
    clb74 said:
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    He saved us and has spent the most in the division on transfer fees this season. He employed a manager with a good track record but early on in the season it has not gone to plan.

    How anyone can suggest TS is the bad guy is really beyond me.
    Have a word.
    How many are actually calling him a bad guy?
    Sadly mate look at social media and some other forums, people are being abusive, people telling him to sell up and fuck off etc etc. 
    As I keep saying, yep he's made mistakes and needs to put them right, including in my opinion, getting a UK CEO (a proper one..maybe PV?), to run things for him, he still needs to concentrate on Zynex, but I'll also say again I believe without him we may not have a club, if I remember rightly we were 48 hours from admin.
    I get the frustration of the teams position, but being abusive, thinking he's not all he seems is going beyond the limits in my opinion.
    I've actually seen people saying they want Roland back!!! TS has been here 12 months, things appear better off the pitch, now HIS team need to make sure that the team on the pitch deliver.
    By the way I won't be singing his name, it's not my cup of tea, but those that do or don't is fine by me.
    These people are not fans snd deserve the contempt of the real  fans …. Charlton are playing football and that’s solely down to TS 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,898
    edited September 2021
    TS is massively in credit with me - he's maybe guilty of being over optimistic in his expectations for this season and there's no doubt that Adkins needs to find the 'formula' but i would happily sing his name or give him a standing ovation - not that i think he should be looking for that on Saturday coz not everybody is so philosophical. No question in my mind, TS is the best thing to happen to this club in years and we need to get behind him and the team during this sticky patc h. If Adkins persists with the one up top nonsense and its still not working after another few games however, then that will need to be addressed.    
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,699
    Some people on here have a strange sense of entitlement. To say anything other than TS saved the club is complete and utter shit.  

    The bloke is a bit of a maverick but he DOES want this club to succeed, you cant deny that. 

    If you dont want to sing then dont but he does deserve some credit for what he is doing here. 

    Rome wasnt built in a day..

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