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  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 32,096
    PrincessFiona said:
    blackpool72 said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    21 Brits line up in the first round of the singles - nine women and twelve men. A decent payday for some of the wildcards.

    Hard to see any Brits making the second week but happy to be proved wrong...
    Not sure I see any getting to the second week in the singles
    It's a big if I know,  but if Draper  somehow can beat Fritz I can see him reaching the second week easy. 
    When I was watching his semi yesterday, (bizarrely?) I wasn't sure I wanted him to win - I am hoping he has a chance against Fritz but 1 more match at Eastbourne might not be a good thing. 
    Difficult to know how much of the defeat was down to Humbert playing well and how much to Jack being knackered after playing virtually a full week’s tennis after a long time out
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,867
    LenGlover said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    blackpool72 said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    21 Brits line up in the first round of the singles - nine women and twelve men. A decent payday for some of the wildcards.

    Hard to see any Brits making the second week but happy to be proved wrong...
    Not sure I see any getting to the second week in the singles
    It's a big if I know,  but if Draper  somehow can beat Fritz I can see him reaching the second week easy. 
    When I was watching his semi yesterday, (bizarrely?) I wasn't sure I wanted him to win - I am hoping he has a chance against Fritz but 1 more match at Eastbourne might not be a good thing. 
    Difficult to know how much of the defeat was down to Humbert playing well and how much to Jack being knackered after playing virtually a full week’s tennis after a long time out
    Completely agree. I was impressed with Humbert though

  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,833
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    21 Brits line up in the first round of the singles - nine women and twelve men. A decent payday for some of the wildcards.

    Hard to see any Brits making the second week but happy to be proved wrong...


    Wildcards raking it in. 

    Can’t believe how much you get for losing in qualifying 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,301
    Emma out of Wimbledon with a stress fracture. 
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,867
    killerandflash said:
    Emma out of Wimbledon with a stress fracture. 
    Yes. I'd not long read she was going to play. But clearly no one should play with a stress fracture.

    No doubt there will be a lot of nasty, ignorant trolling. I haven't seen Draper get the same for his long lay off. But then again although he's had injury problems, he isn't nearly as susceptible as her. TBH she does well to be world 32 (for now as will change after Wimbledon) with all her absences, which many trolls don't seem/want to acknowledge - could Katie Boulter overtake her and become GB no.1 again after a tough year for her? What's happening with Sonay Kartal?
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 24,471
    PrincessFiona said:
    killerandflash said:
    Emma out of Wimbledon with a stress fracture. 
    Yes. I'd not long read she was going to play. But clearly no one should play with a stress fracture.

    No doubt there will be a lot of nasty, ignorant trolling. I haven't seen Draper get the same for his long lay off. But then again although he's had injury problems, he isn't nearly as susceptible as her. TBH she does well to be world 32 (for now as will change after Wimbledon) with all her absences, which many trolls don't seem/want to acknowledge - could Katie Boulter overtake her and become GB no.1 again after a tough year for her? What's happening with Sonay Kartal?
    People are allowed to have an opinion and criticise if they wish.
    I have criticised her myself in the past, this does not make people trolls. 
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 23,020
    edited 9:35AM
    PrincessFiona said:
    killerandflash said:
    Emma out of Wimbledon with a stress fracture. 
    Yes. I'd not long read she was going to play. But clearly no one should play with a stress fracture.

    No doubt there will be a lot of nasty, ignorant trolling. I haven't seen Draper get the same for his long lay off. But then again although he's had injury problems, he isn't nearly as susceptible as her. TBH she does well to be world 32 (for now as will change after Wimbledon) with all her absences, which many trolls don't seem/want to acknowledge - could Katie Boulter overtake her and become GB no.1 again after a tough year for her? What's happening with Sonay Kartal?
    So disappointing for her - seems very injury prone. Was due a good Wimbledon.

    Kartal still recovering from a back injury.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 23,020
    Six of the eight remaining British women in action today. No easy games even though they are mainly facing unseeded players.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 23,020
    MrOneLung said:
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    21 Brits line up in the first round of the singles - nine women and twelve men. A decent payday for some of the wildcards.

    Hard to see any Brits making the second week but happy to be proved wrong...


    Wildcards raking it in. 

    Can’t believe how much you get for losing in qualifying 
    A wildcard is worth £80,000. A massive payday for lower ranked players - the Brits have been given a generous share. I hope they make the most of them.


  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 42,402
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    MrOneLung said:
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    21 Brits line up in the first round of the singles - nine women and twelve men. A decent payday for some of the wildcards.

    Hard to see any Brits making the second week but happy to be proved wrong...


    Wildcards raking it in. 

    Can’t believe how much you get for losing in qualifying 
    A wildcard is worth £80,000. A massive payday for lower ranked players - the Brits have been given a generous share. I hope they make the most of them.


    Raducanu certainly doesn't need it but “Players who withdraw on-site become eligible to receive 50% of the first-round prize money only if they have competed in one tournament in the twenty-one (21) days before the commencement of the main draw for the Grand Slam Tournament.” She fulfills that criteria so will receive £40,000. 

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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,975
    Sad to heat that Raducanu has had to withdraw because of a stress fracture.
    My depressing words from 3 years ago that Emma will decide to retire at 25 because of injuries and that she just can't compete at the business end of grand slams will be too much for a person who is financially secure and does have that USA slam to her name even if that was a freak year in that she played Fernandez in the final and the favourites all beat each other.

    Still a fantastic achievement winning so many matches being a qualifier but she has never stayed fit enough for long enough to even look like a quarter finalist in a slam.
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,768
    soapboxsam said:
    Sad to heat that Raducanu has had to withdraw because of a stress fracture.
    My depressing words from 3 years ago that Emma will decide to retire at 25 because of injuries and that she just can't compete at the business end of grand slams will be too much for a person who is financially secure and does have that USA slam to her name even if that was a freak year in that she played Fernandez in the final and the favourites all beat each other.

    Still a fantastic achievement winning so many matches being a qualifier but she has never stayed fit enough for long enough to even look like a quarter finalist in a slam.
    Completely agree, have said the same, to be a true great she needed to be hoovering up titles by now, in preparation for a serious challenge for the Grand Slams, it hasn't happened due to injuries and that pattern seems set now.
    She's made for life she's won a Major Title it's all good.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,519
    edited 12:21PM
    Felix Gill beaten by 23rd seed Rafael Jodar.

    Max Basing beaten by fellow qualifier Shintaro Mochizuki.

    Mika Stojsavljevic beaten by 11th seed Belinda Bencic.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 23,020
    Callumcafc said:
    Felix Gill beaten by 23rd seed Rafael Jodar.

    Max Basing beaten by fellow qualifier Shintaro Mochizuki.

    Mika Stojsavljevic beaten by 11th seed Belinda Bencic.
    All lost in straight sets - not a great start. 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,768
    Draper withdraws due to injury
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,867
    blackpool72 said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    killerandflash said:
    Emma out of Wimbledon with a stress fracture. 
    Yes. I'd not long read she was going to play. But clearly no one should play with a stress fracture.

    No doubt there will be a lot of nasty, ignorant trolling. I haven't seen Draper get the same for his long lay off. But then again although he's had injury problems, he isn't nearly as susceptible as her. TBH she does well to be world 32 (for now as will change after Wimbledon) with all her absences, which many trolls don't seem/want to acknowledge - could Katie Boulter overtake her and become GB no.1 again after a tough year for her? What's happening with Sonay Kartal?
    People are allowed to have an opinion and criticise if they wish.
    I have criticised her myself in the past, this does not make people trolls. 
    Of course. I haven't said criticising her is trolling though
    In fact I have never said critising is trolling - they are different words with different meanings
    So I don't understand why you have posted this
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,867
    EugenesAxe said:
    soapboxsam said:
    Sad to heat that Raducanu has had to withdraw because of a stress fracture.
    My depressing words from 3 years ago that Emma will decide to retire at 25 because of injuries and that she just can't compete at the business end of grand slams will be too much for a person who is financially secure and does have that USA slam to her name even if that was a freak year in that she played Fernandez in the final and the favourites all beat each other.

    Still a fantastic achievement winning so many matches being a qualifier but she has never stayed fit enough for long enough to even look like a quarter finalist in a slam.
    Completely agree, have said the same, to be a true great she needed to be hoovering up titles by now, in preparation for a serious challenge for the Grand Slams, it hasn't happened due to injuries and that pattern seems set now.
    She's made for life she's won a Major Title it's all good.
    She's not good enough to be a 'true great'. I don't the USO was a 'freak' though

    Not sure where she'd get to if she could remain injury/illness free for longer - maybe top 20 at best? She can't deal with the biggest hitters and has too many mental frailties, but I doubt we'll ever know

    I assume Draper will get the £40k too then?
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,768
    yeah think so he's withdrawn during the tournament.
    I think if she had an injury free career she could have been top 10 comfortably, it's consistency that gets you there as much as anything, think the US Open was an indication of what was possible, don't feel necessarily that the injuries were bad luck or bad conditioning either could be her body just isn't rugged enough.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,867
    EugenesAxe said:
    yeah think so he's withdrawn during the tournament.
    I think if she had an injury free career she could have been top 10 comfortably, it's consistency that gets you there as much as anything, think the US Open was an indication of what was possible, don't feel necessarily that the injuries were bad luck or bad conditioning either could be her body just isn't rugged enough.
    Haven spoken to people who know a lot more than I do (including a Charlton fan at Wembley!), her initial injury problems resulting in various back to back ops were ramping up far too quickly after the USO, only a few months after she was only playing a few hours a week whilst doing her A levels. It should have been more gradual over a longer period. Tehre are also question marks over her father's role and influence. But she is clearly injury prone and there are the mental frailties too - but would they be less if the injuries were less???

    I'm not sure could sustain top 10, but maybe top 20 with the off foray into the top 10? Shame we'll never know
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,867
    I thought Andrew Castle wasn't working for the BBC at Wimbledon this year? I've just checked and there are a number of articles on it. But he's commentating on the Sinner match now.


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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,594
    PrincessFiona said:
    I thought Andrew Castle wasn't working for the BBC at Wimbledon this year? I've just checked and there are a number of articles on it. But he's commentating on the Sinner match now.

    This is his last year (thankfully)
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,867
    Just seen Naomi Osaka walking out on court!
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,768
    PrincessFiona said:
    EugenesAxe said:
    yeah think so he's withdrawn during the tournament.
    I think if she had an injury free career she could have been top 10 comfortably, it's consistency that gets you there as much as anything, think the US Open was an indication of what was possible, don't feel necessarily that the injuries were bad luck or bad conditioning either could be her body just isn't rugged enough.
    Haven spoken to people who know a lot more than I do (including a Charlton fan at Wembley!), her initial injury problems resulting in various back to back ops were ramping up far too quickly after the USO, only a few months after she was only playing a few hours a week whilst doing her A levels. It should have been more gradual over a longer period. Tehre are also question marks over her father's role and influence. But she is clearly injury prone and there are the mental frailties too - but would they be less if the injuries were less???

    I'm not sure could sustain top 10, but maybe top 20 with the off foray into the top 10? Shame we'll never know
    There are lots of what ifs surrounding here career, was some questions wether she's a bit of a sick note too, again this could be her mental frailties, there were some sliding door moments I suppose you could say.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 24,471
    Sinner 2 sets to 1 down.
    This could be interesting 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,833
    blackpool72 said:
    Sinner 2 sets to 1 down.
    This could be interesting 
    switches on just in time to see him go a break up in 4th FFS

    Can't see anyone beating him

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