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Petrol Supply Problems
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This is excellent 👏👏paulbaconsarnie said:Someone at the bbc has a very dry sense of humour when deciding who should report on the fuel fiasco.
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And we can't get petrol.alan dugdale said:
Of course they are. They’ve lost the guys who would drive for peanuts.BR7_addick said:
No one is denying there’s issues around Europe. Our own HGV bosses are saying it’s a combination of Covid and B*****Gribbo said:ShootersHillGuru said:
But right.cafcdave123 said:
whatever, you're boring.BR7_addick said:
Taking what hint, if it’s relevant to the thread I’ll post what I want when I want despite who it upsets. If you can’t stomach discussing the causes of the thread title that’s your problem not mine.cafcdave123 said:
textbook bellenderyBR7_addick said:
😂 Textbook response when found wanting.Gribbo said:
Shut up and go over onto the relevant Group discussion pages.BR7_addick said:
So what do you know that the head of UK haulage companies don’t then? If you have info they don’t you should help them out.Gribbo said:
Lorry driver shortages are Europewide mateBR7_addick said:
The thread is about fuel shortages.cafcdave123 said:
can I suggest you stop reading it then because you're bringing it onto a thread that isn't going down that road until you and rothko start banging on like all seeing all knowing authoritiesBR7_addick said:
Absolutely plastered all over social network. To be expected I guess.cafcdave123 said:
where has all this happened?BR7_addick said:
Pretty much how I see it.Uboat said:News outlets: THERE’S A PETROL CRISIS!!! (but don’t panic buy).
Also news outlets: it’s because of Covid and Brexit.The public: bloody Covid eh.Don’t forget Br..BLOODY COVID!
all we need is someone to mention race so paddy can rock up in all of his authority , its fucking boring
The fuel shortages are due to lorry driver shortages.
The lorry driver shortage is due to Covid and brexit.
So whether if upsets you or not, it is very much “down that road”. I have no authority on this subject bit of an odd point, I’m just repeating what most media outlets are airing.
Again, this is a fuel shortage thread, I’m discussing causes of the fuel shortage. It’s thee most relevant thread.
rather than taking the hint, trying to make others look wrong.
fucking boring
He's not right though.
Seeing as the discussion is continueing on here -
https://trans.info/en/there-s-a-europe-wide-hgv-driver-shortage-so-why-do-uk-supply-chains-seem-more-disrupted-254524
I'll be happy to post up the empty shelves that they sometimes have in my local supermarkets, with "not available" signs one the shelves, next time I'm in one0 -
It was like that last night, also queuing from McDonald’s.Huskaris said:Eltham Hill at a complete standstill as it has just become a queue for the tesco petrol station.
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Ridiculous, problem is that the buses are effectively stuck in a petrol station queue. They can't just reroute.guinnessaddick said:
It was like that last night, also queuing from McDonald’s.Huskaris said:Eltham Hill at a complete standstill as it has just become a queue for the tesco petrol station.
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Spanner mate was supposed to be driving up to Forest today. Said he can’t get any petrol ⛽️.0
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We can blame ‘the media’ all we want (do people actually still read newspapers?) but you can’t underestimate the total stupidity of the general public. Unless your petrol light is on, what the fuck are people doing?9
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fguinnessaddick said:
I have tickets for Fleetwood next week and am facing the same problem.Spanner mate was supposed to be driving up to Forest today. Said he can’t get any petrol ⛽️.1 -
Maybe we have turned full on Marxist after all.
When people see a queue, they join it.
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Yes, there are gaps on shelves like I've already said.lonman said:
Are they lining up for Petrol over there ? Do they have huge gaps on their supermarket shelves ? well apart from British Goods that can't get through because of Boris Johnsons 'wonder' deal. Thought not. RHA did a survey of members, that's the guys that own haulage companies, they said number 1 reason for driver shortage is retirement followed by Brexit. If you voted Brexit and Conservative you are pretty much responsible for this mess.Gribbo said:se9addick said:Nothing to do with Brexit though…
Report in France from a couple of weeks back - https://www.lenouvelliste.ch/articles/economie/leurope-manque-de-camionneurs-1104722
Headline says - "Low wages, high training costs and retirements are reducing the number of truck drivers. The situation is particularly bad in Italy."
Report in France a couple of months back - https://trm24.fr/la-penurie-de-routiers-persiste-dans-le-monde/
Headline says - "The shortage of trucker contues worlwide"
I've seen special news reports on French TV over the last 18 months or so, saying that it's also bad in Holland and Germany.
They've never ever stocked British goods over here mate. Except token packs of Jacobs crackers or a small bottle of salad cream at €7 a bottle.0 -
Just as bad in Europe mate. Surprised you haven't noticed.CharltonMadrid said:Does anyone know if this is a Europe-wide problem, like the shortage of HGV drivers? We haven't seen petrol shortages or panic buying here yet but wondered if it could be on its way. Haven't read all the way through the thread but what are the factors causing this in the UK?2 -
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Same here. There'll be plenty of stations open during the week and no issues with fuel stocks.lonman said:fguinnessaddick said:
I have tickets for Fleetwood next week and am facing the same problem.Spanner mate was supposed to be driving up to Forest today. Said he can’t get any petrol ⛽️.1 -
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Coming into work this morning just before 7 i got stuck in a traffic jam in Bexleyheath high street caused by queuing cars for the petrol station.0
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Bromley Common just before the bus garage about half an hour ago.. Caused by the BP garage.
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They must be selling something. Food Exports to the EU dropped £2billion in the first 6 months of the year.Gribbo said:
Yes, there are gaps on shelves like I've already said.lonman said:
Are they lining up for Petrol over there ? Do they have huge gaps on their supermarket shelves ? well apart from British Goods that can't get through because of Boris Johnsons 'wonder' deal. Thought not. RHA did a survey of members, that's the guys that own haulage companies, they said number 1 reason for driver shortage is retirement followed by Brexit. If you voted Brexit and Conservative you are pretty much responsible for this mess.Gribbo said:se9addick said:Nothing to do with Brexit though…
Report in France from a couple of weeks back - https://www.lenouvelliste.ch/articles/economie/leurope-manque-de-camionneurs-1104722
Headline says - "Low wages, high training costs and retirements are reducing the number of truck drivers. The situation is particularly bad in Italy."
Report in France a couple of months back - https://trm24.fr/la-penurie-de-routiers-persiste-dans-le-monde/
Headline says - "The shortage of trucker contues worlwide"
I've seen special news reports on French TV over the last 18 months or so, saying that it's also bad in Holland and Germany.
They've never ever stocked British goods over here mate. Except token packs of Jacobs crackers or a small bottle of salad cream at €7 a bottle.
Here is a quote from the Food and Drink Federation.
Dominic Goudie, head of international trade at the FDF, said: “The return to growth in exports to non-EU markets is welcome news, but it doesn’t make up for the disastrous loss of £2bn in sales to the EU. It clearly demonstrates the serious difficulties manufacturers in our industry continue to face and the urgent need for additional specialist support.”
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Finished my week of 13 hour night shifts as of 8am this morning. The day staff couldn’t get in on time due to being gridlocked in faversham which meant a 14 hour shift. On the way back people are queueing at the Esso services on the A2.There are so many morons in this country it’s unreal. Then when you tell them there was never a big problem (maybe the odd garage having a few pumps out of use) UNTIL everyone started panic buying, they get all defensive.1
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It’s know very frustrating but that’s harsh. My filling up routine doesn’t go anywhere near having my petrol light on. I use my car most days and prefer not having to visit a petrol station twice a week to put in £20. My tank is rarely below half full. Many people do run low before topping up because of busy lifestyle. My daughter a classic example. If you need your car for school runs and work and public transport isn’t really an option which is fact for most people then it’s perfectly understandable to me why people are now queuing to ensure they can get the kids to school and themselves to work. Yes there are always idiots but don’t blame the people protecting their livelihood. Blame the people responsible for the shortage. No idea why this country always needs a lowly scapegoat when the real culprits are those running things.ValleyGary said:We can blame ‘the media’ all we want (do people actually still read newspapers?) but you can’t underestimate the total stupidity of the general public. Unless your petrol light is on, what the fuck are people doing?5 -
I don't think they're talking about the 5 or 6 items supermarkets put on the "British shelf" though mate.lonman said:
They must be selling something. Food Exports to the EU dropped £2billion in the first 6 months of the year.Gribbo said:
Yes, there are gaps on shelves like I've already said.lonman said:
Are they lining up for Petrol over there ? Do they have huge gaps on their supermarket shelves ? well apart from British Goods that can't get through because of Boris Johnsons 'wonder' deal. Thought not. RHA did a survey of members, that's the guys that own haulage companies, they said number 1 reason for driver shortage is retirement followed by Brexit. If you voted Brexit and Conservative you are pretty much responsible for this mess.Gribbo said:se9addick said:Nothing to do with Brexit though…
Report in France from a couple of weeks back - https://www.lenouvelliste.ch/articles/economie/leurope-manque-de-camionneurs-1104722
Headline says - "Low wages, high training costs and retirements are reducing the number of truck drivers. The situation is particularly bad in Italy."
Report in France a couple of months back - https://trm24.fr/la-penurie-de-routiers-persiste-dans-le-monde/
Headline says - "The shortage of trucker contues worlwide"
I've seen special news reports on French TV over the last 18 months or so, saying that it's also bad in Holland and Germany.
They've never ever stocked British goods over here mate. Except token packs of Jacobs crackers or a small bottle of salad cream at €7 a bottle.
Here is a quote from the Food and Drink Federation.
Dominic Goudie, head of international trade at the FDF, said: “The return to growth in exports to non-EU markets is welcome news, but it doesn’t make up for the disastrous loss of £2bn in sales to the EU. It clearly demonstrates the serious difficulties manufacturers in our industry continue to face and the urgent need for additional specialist support.”
But I think this is going off topic. The fuel problem in the UK seems to be purely down to sheeple panic buying, as they did with bog roll0 -
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Wait, so you know there are people queuing for an hour, causing disruption to other road users, and panic buying, but you’ll still go and get petrol even tho your car is telling you that you don’t need it yet?ShootersHillGuru said:
It’s know very frustrating but that’s harsh. My filling up routine doesn’t go anywhere near having my petrol light on. I use my car most days and prefer not having to visit a petrol station twice a week to put in £20. My tank is rarely below half full. Many people do run low before topping up because of busy lifestyle. My daughter a classic example. If you need your car for school runs and work and public transport isn’t really an option which is fact for most people then it’s perfectly understandable to me why people are now queuing to ensure they can get the kids to school and themselves to work. Yes there are always idiots but don’t blame the people protecting their livelihood. Blame the people responsible for the shortage. No idea why this country always needs a lowly scapegoat when the real culprits are those running things.ValleyGary said:We can blame ‘the media’ all we want (do people actually still read newspapers?) but you can’t underestimate the total stupidity of the general public. Unless your petrol light is on, what the fuck are people doing?
People need to take some responsibility, use their brains and stop acting like toddlers instead of ‘looking to those running the country’.10 -
I'm expecting a few empty seats in the Jimmy Seed Stand today.
London Bridge could be busy as Millwall won't be able to go to Forest this afternoon and they'll need something to do.2 -
@CharltonMadrid there are no petrol shortages. We have plenty.CharltonMadrid said:Does anyone know if this is a Europe-wide problem, like the shortage of HGV drivers? We haven't seen petrol shortages or panic buying here yet but wondered if it could be on its way. Haven't read all the way through the thread but what are the factors causing this in the UK?0 -
Absolutely this. I have just over half a tank. I know I'll need petrol next week but will cross that bridge when I come to it. If bell ends weren't 'topping up' just in case there would be enough for everybody. Also I refuse to wait in a 45 minute line to get petrol. Far better things to do with my time such as posting on this forum hahaha.ValleyGary said:
Wait, so you know there are people queuing for an hour, causing disruption to other road users, and panic buying, but you’ll still go and get petrol even tho your car is telling you that you don’t need it yet?ShootersHillGuru said:
It’s know very frustrating but that’s harsh. My filling up routine doesn’t go anywhere near having my petrol light on. I use my car most days and prefer not having to visit a petrol station twice a week to put in £20. My tank is rarely below half full. Many people do run low before topping up because of busy lifestyle. My daughter a classic example. If you need your car for school runs and work and public transport isn’t really an option which is fact for most people then it’s perfectly understandable to me why people are now queuing to ensure they can get the kids to school and themselves to work. Yes there are always idiots but don’t blame the people protecting their livelihood. Blame the people responsible for the shortage. No idea why this country always needs a lowly scapegoat when the real culprits are those running things.ValleyGary said:We can blame ‘the media’ all we want (do people actually still read newspapers?) but you can’t underestimate the total stupidity of the general public. Unless your petrol light is on, what the fuck are people doing?2 -
If there is enough fuel to go around then why tell people not to panic when you know they will!lonman said:
Absolutely this. I have just over half a tank. I know I'll need petrol next week but will cross that bridge when I come to it. If bell ends weren't 'topping up' just in case there would be enough for everybody.ValleyGary said:
Wait, so you know there are people queuing for an hour, causing disruption to other road users, and panic buying, but you’ll still go and get petrol even tho your car is telling you that you don’t need it yet?ShootersHillGuru said:
It’s know very frustrating but that’s harsh. My filling up routine doesn’t go anywhere near having my petrol light on. I use my car most days and prefer not having to visit a petrol station twice a week to put in £20. My tank is rarely below half full. Many people do run low before topping up because of busy lifestyle. My daughter a classic example. If you need your car for school runs and work and public transport isn’t really an option which is fact for most people then it’s perfectly understandable to me why people are now queuing to ensure they can get the kids to school and themselves to work. Yes there are always idiots but don’t blame the people protecting their livelihood. Blame the people responsible for the shortage. No idea why this country always needs a lowly scapegoat when the real culprits are those running things.ValleyGary said:We can blame ‘the media’ all we want (do people actually still read newspapers?) but you can’t underestimate the total stupidity of the general public. Unless your petrol light is on, what the fuck are people doing?0 -
Outside local Morrisons petrol station this morning.
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Because of the queue at a petrol station on Plumstead High Street they’re having to divert buses up to the common to get through to their destinations.
Who said there wouldn’t be Brexit chaos?4 -
The United Road Transport Union is out there for the guys who drive HGV vehicles for a living, if they wish to join and organise together for better pay and conditions.
It costs £16.22 per month for the most comprehensively qualified drivers.
One aim might be to have appropriate compensation for fallow involuntary lay over periods (akin to paying visiting care workers for their time and travel between jobs) and another aim could be to secure proper toilet and washing/shower facilities at truck stop sites.3 -
The people on here that voted Brexit mate. If Brexit wasn't one of the main factors in this why are the Government U Turning and issuing Visas to EU Drivers. Funny that.Because of the queue at a petrol station on Plumstead High Street they’re having to divert buses up to the common to get through to their destinations.
Who said there wouldn’t be Brexit chaos?3
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