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Charlton TV - Barnsley game available in the UK and Ireland?
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Thanks Olly... Do we not get our feed (especially for away games) through iFollow, as I thought for those away trips, we still had to rely on their one camera (?) service.Ollywozere said:
Accrington won’t be able to stop Charlton from streaming the game via CharltonTV and I’m not sure they’re even looking to do that.seth plum said:Anybody know for absolute sure whether Accrington will be streamed or not?1 -
Sky camera/s will be there for highlights videos. I believe that ITV have the rights to the highlights package for next season.0
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Good news for Andy Holt. After we lose all our pre season games heavily, no Charlton fans will want to watch a stream of the match anyway
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Thanks for the info. Though I don't think it changes anything regarding Stanley's stance, does it?mcgrandall said:
While viewing a stream through a VPN is against the terms of use, it certainly isn't illegal. Much like watching a pirate video isn't but distribution is. Plus there are a number of reasons you could be using a VPN beyond just masking your location.Algarveaddick said:
I guess what you are suggesting is that Stanley's income from people using the service illegally via VPN would outweigh the loss from people illegally streaming a hooky service? You may well be right.ElliotCAFC said:
I think you might be overestimating how many people watch the streams for free. Less than 5% of viewers will know what IPTV is, let alone how to use one.Algarveaddick said:
Still a bit lost here. Stanley should allow ifollow in to cover games so that people can watch hooky streams of it for free? Or are you saying something else?Sage said:
No because they've made the decision not to attend since COVID whether that is home or away. It shows that no matter if you're young or older, the demand is growing for streams and if it legal or not, most people will find a way if they want to.Algarveaddick said:
Am I missing something, or are you actually citing an example of exactly why Stanley are resisting? Your OAPs are putting precisely nothing into the club now. If one of them went three times a season, because he can't see any games on TV, the club will have sold three more tickets than they are now?Sage said:
The majority would be watching it via a VPN, people will find a way whether it is legal or not.clive said:
Even if Charlton TV were to stream the match, it is still only for fans based overseas, elderly or not.Sage said:He has a point, sure.However, he’s also only saying about the distribution of money from streams because they’ll never ever get close to what we would or others in the league. If they weren’t so small they would not be complaining.
What this does do though is limit those fans who rely on the streaming service for Accrington Stanley, such as the elderly.I would hope that because our service is not iFollow, even if they use iFollow cameras, we could still have our own stream for the game.
What they will now also find is that rather than supporters using Accrington’s iFollow, they’ll pay for the opposition’s and still get the game streamed but financially, Accrington do not benefit so they’re no better off.
There is nothing better as a fan and for the club to have people attending matches, but you have to recognise the way the game and people’s behaviours and habits have changed and the need for streaming has, and will continue to grow.
Being creative with the streaming service whilst pricing match tickets at the right point to attract fans in attendance is the way forward. Otherwise you’ll price people out of attending and others will find a way somehow, be it legal or not.
I would imagine most of the people who watch the streams are young people, some for free via illegal means & most living in this country.
Also, you would be surprised the amount of people who now watch games on the stream instead of attending. I know of a group of OAPs where they all have decided they watch the game on a stream instead of coming to The Valley now. It's cheaper, more convenient, and many more factors that contribute to their decision.
All Stanley are doing are cutting their nose off to spite their face.
Using a VPN on a Saturday means you still have to pay the full price of the stream.0 -
.Forgive my ignorance, but I didn't think you were allowed to stream Saturday 3pm games?
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Algarveaddick said:
Thanks for the info. Though I don't think it changes anything regarding Stanley's stance, does it?mcgrandall said:
While viewing a stream through a VPN is against the terms of use, it certainly isn't illegal. Much like watching a pirate video isn't but distribution is. Plus there are a number of reasons you could be using a VPN beyond just masking your location.Algarveaddick said:
I guess what you are suggesting is that Stanley's income from people using the service illegally via VPN would outweigh the loss from people illegally streaming a hooky service? You may well be right.ElliotCAFC said:
I think you might be overestimating how many people watch the streams for free. Less than 5% of viewers will know what IPTV is, let alone how to use one.Algarveaddick said:
Still a bit lost here. Stanley should allow ifollow in to cover games so that people can watch hooky streams of it for free? Or are you saying something else?Sage said:
No because they've made the decision not to attend since COVID whether that is home or away. It shows that no matter if you're young or older, the demand is growing for streams and if it legal or not, most people will find a way if they want to.Algarveaddick said:
Am I missing something, or are you actually citing an example of exactly why Stanley are resisting? Your OAPs are putting precisely nothing into the club now. If one of them went three times a season, because he can't see any games on TV, the club will have sold three more tickets than they are now?Sage said:
The majority would be watching it via a VPN, people will find a way whether it is legal or not.clive said:
Even if Charlton TV were to stream the match, it is still only for fans based overseas, elderly or not.Sage said:He has a point, sure.However, he’s also only saying about the distribution of money from streams because they’ll never ever get close to what we would or others in the league. If they weren’t so small they would not be complaining.
What this does do though is limit those fans who rely on the streaming service for Accrington Stanley, such as the elderly.I would hope that because our service is not iFollow, even if they use iFollow cameras, we could still have our own stream for the game.
What they will now also find is that rather than supporters using Accrington’s iFollow, they’ll pay for the opposition’s and still get the game streamed but financially, Accrington do not benefit so they’re no better off.
There is nothing better as a fan and for the club to have people attending matches, but you have to recognise the way the game and people’s behaviours and habits have changed and the need for streaming has, and will continue to grow.
Being creative with the streaming service whilst pricing match tickets at the right point to attract fans in attendance is the way forward. Otherwise you’ll price people out of attending and others will find a way somehow, be it legal or not.
I would imagine most of the people who watch the streams are young people, some for free via illegal means & most living in this country.
Also, you would be surprised the amount of people who now watch games on the stream instead of attending. I know of a group of OAPs where they all have decided they watch the game on a stream instead of coming to The Valley now. It's cheaper, more convenient, and many more factors that contribute to their decision.
All Stanley are doing are cutting their nose off to spite their face.
Using a VPN on a Saturday means you still have to pay the full price of the stream.
No, and I think it is fairly backwards in 2022. What Andy Holt is really bemoaning is the fact that Stanley are not well supported and he wants to control the limited numbers that do. He is the owner, it is his choice, but all he is really doing is hurting his own pocket and the fans who want to give him money. IMO he is deluded to think that cutting streams will suddenly lead to a significant increase at the gate.
Yes it will deal with the people watching the free streams but it is a case of throwing the baby out with the bath water0 -
You cant at the moment... Its for those abroad, and those who have holiday homes abroad and private planes (VPNs)Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:.Forgive my ignorance, but I didn't think you were allowed to stream Saturday 3pm games?
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And those with PNP…………………..private number plates. 🫠ForeverAddickted said:
You cant at the moment... Its for those abroad, and those who have holiday homes abroad and private planes (VPNs)Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:.Forgive my ignorance, but I didn't think you were allowed to stream Saturday 3pm games?
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Andy Holt still going on about this on Twitter. He wants all the streaming money pooled and shared among EFL clubs evenly, like a TV deal.
I do sympathise up to a certain point. He cites, in a recent article in the Athletic, that the top clubs will be aiming to make £1m from streaming this year while other clubs will be closer to £30k during the same period (easy to assume that’s Accrington’s number). That is a huge difference.
But my sympathy ends when I remember that he was one of the most vocal proponents of 2020/21’s bizarre wage cap which stunted the bigger clubs, to Accrington’s benefit.
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The guy is trying to get the best for the club he owns and I supose he cant be blamed for that however the wage cap was stupid and so is trying to stop streaming. It would be like us bemoaning because we dont get the same hates as Sunderland ffs0
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Bang on again Mr Holt. Our supporters trust are big fans of his and would like to think they would be in agreement with thisCallumcafc said:Andy Holt still going on about this on Twitter. He wants all the streaming money pooled and shared among EFL clubs evenly, like a TV deal.0 -
Does anyone know the line up for this season - Minto, Curbs, Browny??????0
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What time does the coverage start on Charlton TV?0
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Countdown now up1
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Bloody saying I need to log in and iam logged in ffs0
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Pitch looks great.2
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Quick someone’s nicking the goal!1
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Skintgaard cutting costs againEugenesAxe said:Quick someone’s nicking the goal!0 -
Anyone know how to unsubscribe from Charlton TV? Bought the month pass for the friendliest.2
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Covered_End_Lad said:Anyone know how to unsubscribe from Charlton TV? Bought the month pass for the friendliest.
Same. Can't find any option on the site and the FAQ acts like there should be an option on the account page..2 -
If you go to the ‘my subscriptions’ bit you can do it from there.Jac_52 said:Covered_End_Lad said:Anyone know how to unsubscribe from Charlton TV? Bought the month pass for the friendliest.
Same. Can't find any option on the site and the FAQ acts like there should be an option on the account page..0 -
I'm probably being blind, but cant see anything like that on my Account?FishCostaFortune said:
If you go to the ‘my subscriptions’ bit you can do it from there.Jac_52 said:Covered_End_Lad said:Anyone know how to unsubscribe from Charlton TV? Bought the month pass for the friendliest.
Same. Can't find any option on the site and the FAQ acts like there should be an option on the account page..0 -
FishCostaFortune said:
If you go to the ‘my subscriptions’ bit you can do it from there.Jac_52 said:Covered_End_Lad said:Anyone know how to unsubscribe from Charlton TV? Bought the month pass for the friendliest.
Same. Can't find any option on the site and the FAQ acts like there should be an option on the account page..
I must be blind as cannot see that page anywhere. Only have a "my account" page and a "log out option" and under the Charlton TV section can't see anything either1 -
Oh thank god... Its not just meJac_52 said:FishCostaFortune said:
If you go to the ‘my subscriptions’ bit you can do it from there.Jac_52 said:Covered_End_Lad said:Anyone know how to unsubscribe from Charlton TV? Bought the month pass for the friendliest.
Same. Can't find any option on the site and the FAQ acts like there should be an option on the account page..
I must be blind as cannot see that page anywhere. Only have a "my account" page and a "log out option" and under the Charlton TV section can't see anything either0 -
Yes the FAQ's directs you to the my account section. That section does not allow you to cancel. Brilliant.1
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I found 'My Subscriptions' on the Valley TV Purchase Pass menu page with an option to cancel auto renewal there, adding a reason.2
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Found it thank you... Should be right at the top of this page below for anyone elseWSA said:I found 'My Subscriptions' on the Valley TV Purchase Pass menu page with an option to cancel auto renewal there, adding a reason.
https://www.charltonafc.com/charltontv/purchase-your-pass
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Cheers just cancelled.WSA said:I found 'My Subscriptions' on the Valley TV Purchase Pass menu page with an option to cancel auto renewal there, adding a reason.0 -
Sorry I didn’t really give a good description as to where it was.
I did learn about it the hard way, as I purchased the package for the last month of the season, and then of course got completely done like a kipper when it renewed for the off season 😭
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