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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,625
    edited November 2021
    Not had an acknowledgment to my application yet. Still. Christmas should be good this year. 

    PS. What’s “high press” asking for a friend
  • Chris Coleman is available😁😁
  • Belv
    Belv Posts: 836
    I cringe a little bit whenever Sandgaard talks about football.

    It's like he's just learnt the term "high press" himself. I can't believe there is a manager alive at any level who doesn't know what a high press means.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,985
    Belv said:
    I cringe a little bit whenever Sandgaard talks about football.

    It's like he's just learnt the term "high press" himself. I can't believe there is a manager alive at any level who doesn't know what a high press means.
    I read as know what it really means to play a high press.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Belv said:
    I cringe a little bit whenever Sandgaard talks about football.

    It's like he's just learnt the term "high press" himself. I can't believe there is a manager alive at any level who doesn't know what a high press means.
    Christ I have just read the full article. 
  • Belv said:
    I cringe a little bit whenever Sandgaard talks about football.

    It's like he's just learnt the term "high press" himself. I can't believe there is a manager alive at any level who doesn't know what a high press means.
    Not every manager would want to play it though, otherwise it would be the norm. It isn’t. To be honest I don’t think league one players are in the main good enough to play it. Age, fitness and ability all are important to that style. At present this Charlton team isn’t either fit enough or disciplined enough in my opinion. We do though have the ability to play a modern passing game and not lump it forward. 
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,870
    Sandgaurd has played this well imo.

    It will make JJ feel like he has more to prove and he will chase it 

    Nothing gets given for free
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,553
    The more interesting part of that interview in the Sun.

    Sandgaard revealed he has been inundated with applications and explained exactly the sort of person he is looking for.

    He said: “It’s over 100 applicants now. We’ve had some good ones and hopefuls that wish the spotlight to fall upon them.

    “We’ve had high-quality managers in touch who have been successful at different levels.

    “The person who gets the job must be someone who knows how to play modern-day football and what a high press means.

    “You can play a high press but if you don’t do it in a co-ordinated manner, you’re going to get into trouble.

    “It has to be someone who understands League One and the level above.

    “A manager must understand what may seem really good in games, like mixing it up, isn’t necessarily a good thing because we should be consistent in what we’re trying to do.

    “It has to be someone who is a good people’s man too. We have a lot of players who need development so it must be someone who is good at managing that side of things too.”


    I’m sure he just repeats whatever he’s heard in his last conversation. 

    He’s just describing how Jackson wants to play, as Jackson has described it to him. In fact, the ideal manager he’s describing is currently our caretaker manager. 
  • Would love to get a view of that list of applications.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,809
    We didn't play high press under Adkins, was a complete mess of one player pressing by themselves, and not co ordinated. 
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  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    Would love to get a view of that list of applications.
    If you discount my application and ShootersHillGuru that’s 98 applicants 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,043
    Sounds like it's Jackos to lose. But like Shooters I'd be very very curious to see the type of managers that have applied. Would imagine there will be a few names on that list that are off the usual merry-go-round. 
  • Would love to get a view of that list of applications.
    I'm hearing... Jan Jackson... Juan Jackson... Johannes Jackson have all applied...
  • I really wish TS would stick to funding us and let football people talk about football matters. And 100 applicants......really!
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,676
    Think TS is doing the perfect thing by waiting until Christmas, its Jacko's to lose
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,625
    edited November 2021
    MarcusH26 said:
    Sounds like it's Jackos to lose. But like Shooters I'd be very very curious to see the type of managers that have applied. Would imagine there will be a few names on that list that are off the usual merry-go-round. 
    Agreed. I’d imagine the bulk would be current assistants and maybe a few player names coming onto retirement. No doubt a few out of work journeymen. I would be fascinated to know if Jorge Costa, Claus Jensen and Jonatan Johannsson are in the mix. Wilder too. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,043
    MarcusH26 said:
    Sounds like it's Jackos to lose. But like Shooters I'd be very very curious to see the type of managers that have applied. Would imagine there will be a few names on that list that are off the usual merry-go-round. 
    Agreed. I’d imagine the bulk would be current assistants and maybe a few player names coming onto retirement. No doubt a few out of work journeymen. I would be fascinated to know if Jorge Costa, Claus Jensen and Jonatan Johannsson are in the mix. Wilder too. 

    I'd assume the likes of Monk,Hughton etc will be on there along with some that are currently at U23 level like an Andy Reid. 

    The likes of Costa, Johansson and Jensen I wouldn't be surprised if they'd thrown their names into the ring despite their varying levels of experience.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,382
    Belv said:
    I cringe a little bit whenever Sandgaard talks about football.

    It's like he's just learnt the term "high press" himself. I can't believe there is a manager alive at any level who doesn't know what a high press means.
    I think that’s harsh, he’s always talked about wanting us to play exciting football and pressing teams is part of that. I don’t see what’s wrong an owner wanting that and occasionally talking about it. He’s talked about the style he wants at a very high level. He’s a genuine football fan, this is nothing like Roland emailing tactics to Powell.

    Of course every manager knows what a high press is, but we need a manager and coaching team who properly understand and are capable of implementing it at this level. Adkins talked about it and we saw no signs of it. Jackson’s taken over and suddenly we’re pressing teams in a way opponents have pressed us all season.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,862
    Whilst I think the idea of having a period of reflection rather than rushing into a decision is good, I am not sure why he would start talking about tactics to be used ! 
  • Kips
    Kips Posts: 689
    The more interesting part of that interview in the Sun.

    Sandgaard revealed he has been inundated with applications and explained exactly the sort of person he is looking for.

    He said: “It’s over 100 applicants now. We’ve had some good ones and hopefuls that wish the spotlight to fall upon them.

    “We’ve had high-quality managers in touch who have been successful at different levels.

    “The person who gets the job must be someone who knows how to play modern-day football and what a high press means.

    “You can play a high press but if you don’t do it in a co-ordinated manner, you’re going to get into trouble.

    “It has to be someone who understands League One and the level above.

    “A manager must understand what may seem really good in games, like mixing it up, isn’t necessarily a good thing because we should be consistent in what we’re trying to do.

    “It has to be someone who is a good people’s man too. We have a lot of players who need development so it must be someone who is good at managing that side of things too.”


    Like someone on the pitch before a match strumming an air guitar 🎸 
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  • dickad1
    dickad1 Posts: 260
    Rothko said:
    We didn't play high press under Adkins, was a complete mess of one player pressing by themselves, and not co ordinated. 
    You might call it a high mess!
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,817
    could anyone actually name 100 out of work managers??
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,382
    Kips said:
    The more interesting part of that interview in the Sun.

    Sandgaard revealed he has been inundated with applications and explained exactly the sort of person he is looking for.

    He said: “It’s over 100 applicants now. We’ve had some good ones and hopefuls that wish the spotlight to fall upon them.

    “We’ve had high-quality managers in touch who have been successful at different levels.

    “The person who gets the job must be someone who knows how to play modern-day football and what a high press means.

    “You can play a high press but if you don’t do it in a co-ordinated manner, you’re going to get into trouble.

    “It has to be someone who understands League One and the level above.

    “A manager must understand what may seem really good in games, like mixing it up, isn’t necessarily a good thing because we should be consistent in what we’re trying to do.

    “It has to be someone who is a good people’s man too. We have a lot of players who need development so it must be someone who is good at managing that side of things too.”


    Like someone on the pitch before a match strumming an air guitar 🎸 
    Has Gareth Ainsworth applied then?


  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,519
    edited November 2021
    The more interesting part of that interview in the Sun.

    Sandgaard revealed he has been inundated with applications and explained exactly the sort of person he is looking for.

    He said: “It’s over 100 applicants now. We’ve had some good ones and hopefuls that wish the spotlight to fall upon them.

    “We’ve had high-quality managers in touch who have been successful at different levels.

    The person who gets the job must be someone who knows how to play modern-day football and what a high press means.

    “You can play a high press but if you don’t do it in a co-ordinated manner, you’re going to get into trouble.

    “It has to be someone who understands League One and the level above.

    “A manager must understand what may seem really good in games, like mixing it up, isn’t necessarily a good thing because we should be consistent in what we’re trying to do.

    “It has to be someone who is a good people’s man too. We have a lot of players who need development so it must be someone who is good at managing that side of things too.”





    Hmmm hasn't this been half the problem though?

    Under Adkins the players looked lost when it went long, according to Adkins at their own will, which I guess would explain why no fucker was ever close to Stockley/ knock-downs etc.

    The bottom half of league one ain't really the time or place for basing your gameplan on peak Barcelona. Getting the ball up to the big man quickly either centrally or wide is, frankly, a necessity in this league, doesn't have to be your sole game plan, but you need it and mixing it up in games is 100% a good thing, otherwise you become predictable and easy to work out...
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    edited November 2021
    The more interesting part of that interview in the Sun.

    Sandgaard revealed he has been inundated with applications and explained exactly the sort of person he is looking for.

    He said: “It’s over 100 applicants now. We’ve had some good ones and hopefuls that wish the spotlight to fall upon them.

    “We’ve had high-quality managers in touch who have been successful at different levels.

    The person who gets the job must be someone who knows how to play modern-day football and what a high press means.

    “You can play a high press but if you don’t do it in a co-ordinated manner, you’re going to get into trouble.

    “It has to be someone who understands League One and the level above.

    “A manager must understand what may seem really good in games, like mixing it up, isn’t necessarily a good thing because we should be consistent in what we’re trying to do.

    “It has to be someone who is a good people’s man too. We have a lot of players who need development so it must be someone who is good at managing that side of things too.”





    Hmmm hasn't this been half the problem though?

    Under Adkins the players looked lost when it went long, according to Adkins at their own will, which I guess would explain why no fucker was ever close to Stockley/ knock-downs etc.

    The bottom half of league one ain't really the time or place for basing your gameplan on peak Barcelona. Getting the ball up to the big man quickly either centrally or wide is, frankly, a necessity in this league, doesn't have to be your sole game plan, but you need it and mixing it up in games is 100% a good thing, otherwise you become predictable and easy to work out...
    Yes, but not to the extent that Adkins seems to have gone to where by most accounts the players didn't even know what they were meant to be doing.

    Contrast that to JJ's new shape where the defence changes shape if we're attacking or defending but every player knows their responsibility.

    Flexibility is needed... In the right circumstances. Changes for change's sake is not. 
  • could anyone actually name 100 out of work managers??
    No, stupid statement from TS, sometimes its better to say nothing at all.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,424
    edited November 2021
    could anyone actually name 100 out of work managers??
    No, stupid statement from TS, sometimes its better to say nothing at all.
    Not really... Probably got a good number of coaches who are trying to get into Management themselves.

    After all he said "100 applicants", not 100 out of work Managers

    Take Eddie Newton who was a coach @ Chelsea for example

    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/12040129/eddie-newton-lack-of-opportunity-forced-me-abroad

    Wouldnt surprise me if there are various amounts of coaches / ex-Managers who are applying for anything any everything that comes up in the hope that they'll finally be taken seriously and given the opportunity.
  • could anyone actually name 100 out of work managers??
    No, stupid statement from TS, sometimes its better to say nothing at all.
    Not really... Probably got a good number of coaches who are trying to get into Management themselves.

    After all he said "100 applicants", not 100 out of work Managers

    Take Eddie Newton who was a coach @ Chelsea for example

    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/12040129/eddie-newton-lack-of-opportunity-forced-me-abroad

    Wouldnt surprise me if there are various amounts of coaches / ex-Managers who are applying for anything any everything that comes up in the hope that they'll finally be taken seriously and given the opportunity.
    Fair point and I never took the comment as 100 managers had applied, however I would be surprised if 100 people have applied made up of managers, assistants, coaches and nut jobs.

    I may be wrong but I get the feeling TS is playing it up to look like we are an attractive proposition than we really are.

    He does not have to do that, just keep a low profile and let JJ do his job. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    And there is no reason to presume all the applicants are out of work either. Could well be a few ambitious League Two managers deciding to chance their arm. 
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,519
    thenewbie said:
    The more interesting part of that interview in the Sun.

    Sandgaard revealed he has been inundated with applications and explained exactly the sort of person he is looking for.

    He said: “It’s over 100 applicants now. We’ve had some good ones and hopefuls that wish the spotlight to fall upon them.

    “We’ve had high-quality managers in touch who have been successful at different levels.

    The person who gets the job must be someone who knows how to play modern-day football and what a high press means.

    “You can play a high press but if you don’t do it in a co-ordinated manner, you’re going to get into trouble.

    “It has to be someone who understands League One and the level above.

    “A manager must understand what may seem really good in games, like mixing it up, isn’t necessarily a good thing because we should be consistent in what we’re trying to do.

    “It has to be someone who is a good people’s man too. We have a lot of players who need development so it must be someone who is good at managing that side of things too.”





    Hmmm hasn't this been half the problem though?

    Under Adkins the players looked lost when it went long, according to Adkins at their own will, which I guess would explain why no fucker was ever close to Stockley/ knock-downs etc.

    The bottom half of league one ain't really the time or place for basing your gameplan on peak Barcelona. Getting the ball up to the big man quickly either centrally or wide is, frankly, a necessity in this league, doesn't have to be your sole game plan, but you need it and mixing it up in games is 100% a good thing, otherwise you become predictable and easy to work out...
    Yes, but not to the extent that Adkins seems to have gone to where by most accounts the players didn't even know what they were meant to be doing.

    Contrast that to JJ's new shape where the defence changes shape if we're attacking or defending but every player knows their responsibility.

    Flexibility is needed... In the right circumstances. Changes for change's sake is not. 

    We wasn't  flexible under Adkins at all, just changing 3 players at a time.

    BUT isn't what we're seeing now what Sandgaard is saying he DOESN'T want? Isn't that bold statement exactly the chalk and cheese between JJ and Adkins? Adkins stuck religiously to the gameplan JJ is mixing it up?