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Post-match Thread: Plymouth Argyle vs Charlton Athletic | Saturday 18th December 2021
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First half looked bright for the first 30minute. Second half adkins esque. Kirk total waste of space.0
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Plymouth played the way we did against them at The Valley. They showed a lot more energy and contested better than we did. They deserved the win and could have scored more goals. We looked jaded and maybe there were more of our players out there sufering from COVID??
Can`t win them all. Disappointing loss with no points gained but only 1 goal conceded.
Next game away again and JJ needs to find a way to get that high level of performance out of the players they have shown recently in the home games.
COYRs!
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we need to put home performance’s into away game’s plus players in and out needed1
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Wasn't just that though. It was his horse racing commentary style plus asking Brownie multiple times what he thought of a player or difference in management styles of JJ and Adkins while the game was going on. Just commentate on the game no one wants a chat show.Briston_Addick said:
In the commentators' defence it's not always easy to pick out the players when you're watching on TV, which us what Jamie Reid and Browny were doing today. I thought that's how they were working in the first half just by the way they were calling things but in the second half they were saying they were at The Valley, not Home Park.Leuth said:Oh god, sorry if the commentator reads CL, but yeah, that was staggering stuff. Couldn't identify our players most of the time. Said Plymouth were a confident team when they've been losing every fucking week. Didn't seem to really understand football. Gave us poshos a bad name
Jamie may be a professional commentator (is he a Charlton fan?) but give me Tel, Greg, or any of the other guys from Valley Pass commentary stints in seasons past.
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Tunwellsaddick said:
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Next game away again and JJ needs to find a way to get that high level of performance out of the players they have shown recently in the home games.
Maybe we need to be taking 18,000+ Addicks fans to away games to create the same atmosphere to get the players revved up?1 -
What I said last week is that we're one or two key players getting injured from reverting back to what we had seen earlier this season. Well today proves that. Not much to dwell on really, poor performances from nearly everyone today. Reinforcements are needed desperately in January.
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He's a radio commentator and he made multiple references to those listening to the audio-only coverage, so that's probably why he had that style.Talal said:
Wasn't just that though. It was his horse racing commentary style plus asking Brownie multiple times what he thought of a player or difference in management styles of JJ and Adkins while the game was going on. Just commentate on the game no one wants a chat show.Briston_Addick said:
In the commentators' defence it's not always easy to pick out the players when you're watching on TV, which us what Jamie Reid and Browny were doing today. I thought that's how they were working in the first half just by the way they were calling things but in the second half they were saying they were at The Valley, not Home Park.Leuth said:Oh god, sorry if the commentator reads CL, but yeah, that was staggering stuff. Couldn't identify our players most of the time. Said Plymouth were a confident team when they've been losing every fucking week. Didn't seem to really understand football. Gave us poshos a bad name
Jamie may be a professional commentator (is he a Charlton fan?) but give me Tel, Greg, or any of the other guys from Valley Pass commentary stints in seasons past.
Except Emma ...
Not that I want to make too many excuses for him ...0 -
If you're a radio commentator you don't ask questions while the match is going on as no one has a clue what's happening.Briston_Addick said:
He's a radio commentator and he made multiple references to those listening to the audio-only coverage, so that's probably why he had that style.Talal said:
Wasn't just that though. It was his horse racing commentary style plus asking Brownie multiple times what he thought of a player or difference in management styles of JJ and Adkins while the game was going on. Just commentate on the game no one wants a chat show.Briston_Addick said:
In the commentators' defence it's not always easy to pick out the players when you're watching on TV, which us what Jamie Reid and Browny were doing today. I thought that's how they were working in the first half just by the way they were calling things but in the second half they were saying they were at The Valley, not Home Park.Leuth said:Oh god, sorry if the commentator reads CL, but yeah, that was staggering stuff. Couldn't identify our players most of the time. Said Plymouth were a confident team when they've been losing every fucking week. Didn't seem to really understand football. Gave us poshos a bad name
Jamie may be a professional commentator (is he a Charlton fan?) but give me Tel, Greg, or any of the other guys from Valley Pass commentary stints in seasons past.
Except Emma ...
Not that I want to make too many excuses for him ...2 -
The commentator started too many conversations about things other than the actual action. It would have been a hopeless audio only listen, as you'd get a 30 second discussion about something followed by "and a shot by Hardie"5
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PWR but for me, a total non event, apart from some decent patches in the first half.
We SO missed Wash & Akin...in fact it's rather concerning that the loss of just 2 players made such a significant difference.
DJ had an absolute nightmare, Lee once again not the player we saw & admired when he first joined us, Stockley, well, I'm seriously questioning both his ability & his temperament and when he came on the pitch, Kirk was dire.
So, let's fervently hope that this was a one off & that we don't fall so far behind our recent standards again.2 -
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A poor performance, and worryingly lethargic. If several players played with Covid, spreading the virus, that's terrible. We shouldn't be tired surely, as we haven't played for a week
DJ was poor BUT did try. Souare looks like a dubious gamble that didn't work. Leko was more effective running wide than as a central striker. Stockley didn't make the most of our best chance, and skied another shot. Kirk did nothing useful in his 30 minutes until his final kick, and didn't help the shape either, being so right footed
The midfield wasn't great either, Lee and Gilbey were barely involved, while Dobson seemed overwhelmed in the second half. If Lee and Gilbey are that leggy, there will HAVE to be rotation over the Christmas period, assuming no cancellations.1 -
We obviously missed Washington & Famewo today.
We missed Stockley when he was out for 3 games - 2 away games, lost 1 and drew 1 after being 2-0 up.
It shows that we are only a few players away from Adkins territory. Look at the teams around & below us, only 1 has played the same number of games as us, the rest have 1, 2 or, in Wimbledon's case, 3 games in hand.
I don't mind being called out & i'm known as a pessimist but talk of the play offs should be just that- talk. In reality we are only a bad run from being sucked back into a relegation fight.
The first thing that is needed come Jan 2nd is a striker. The second thing is another striker.4 -
Yes. We really missed him today. We desperately needed someone to graft away, take the game by the scruff of the neck and give the team something to have confidence in. So many times Washington has been that person, but today there was no-one.se9addick said:Is Washington the most important player in our squad? We’re a different, much worse team without him0 -
Fulham fan. I remember a game he was doing for us on BBC London a few years ago. During that one he seemed more interested in the tweets that they were getting about the game. Shame as I've known him since primary school!Briston_Addick said:
In the commentators' defence it's not always easy to pick out the players when you're watching on TV, which us what Jamie Reid and Browny were doing today. I thought that's how they were working in the first half just by the way they were calling things but in the second half they were saying they were at The Valley, not Home Park.Leuth said:Oh god, sorry if the commentator reads CL, but yeah, that was staggering stuff. Couldn't identify our players most of the time. Said Plymouth were a confident team when they've been losing every fucking week. Didn't seem to really understand football. Gave us poshos a bad name
Jamie may be a professional commentator (is he a Charlton fan?) but give me Tel, Greg, or any of the other guys from Valley Pass commentary stints in seasons past.
Except Emma ...
As far today's result it's a poor one against a team bang out of form. We sounded bereft of energy 2nd half and were carrying a few players. As others have said you have to wonder if Covid was more of an issue than just those 3 missing.1 -
Commentary aside, the balance of the audio wasn’t great. Could barely hear the game, just them talking.
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Different type of player, but I would of (and this isn’t just hindsight) started Burstow upfront with Stockley. We are far too one dimensional with just Stockley, it was a factor in Adkins ultimately losing his job and hopefully Jackson will avoid similar mistakes.Stig said:
Yes. We really missed him today. We desperately needed someone to graft away, take the game by the scruff of the neck and give the team something to have confidence in. So many times Washington has been that person, but today there was no-one.se9addick said:Is Washington the most important player in our squad? We’re a different, much worse team without him0 -
First 20 mins I saw nothing that worried me about Plymouth, and their keeper kept them in it with 2 good saves - then, well I don’t know what happened to us - dreadful
An earlier post on here mentioned the positive Covid cases, and I do wonder if there will be more positive cases in the team over next few days - they have all trained with Akin, Conor and Josh this week, and we did seem to have a collective slump in energy after half time
Hey ho - all part of the joy of being a Charlton fan 😳3 -
I hope Wimbledon gets called off we go again against gillingham and then get some players back and in🤞🤞1
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And Charlie Kirk - jeez, simply horrendous - how the fuck did he miss the target with the shot he had (ok it would have been ruled out, but he put it wider of the goal than the distance he shot from !!!)6
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no we won’t0
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Luckily we only signed him on a short term deal!Lordflashheart said:And Charlie Kirk - jeez, simply horrendous - how the fuck did he miss the target with the shot he had (ok it would have been ruled out, but he put it wider of the goal than the distance he shot from !!!)2 -
We bemoaned Naby having a long deal - He left us a completely different player to the one that joinedse9addick said:
Luckily we only signed him on a short term deal!Lordflashheart said:And Charlie Kirk - jeez, simply horrendous - how the fuck did he miss the target with the shot he had (ok it would have been ruled out, but he put it wider of the goal than the distance he shot from !!!)
Hope Charlie will be able to do similar.8 -
Been waiting for this fixture since they were announced. What a pile of shit. One player worth his place today: Clare. Otherwise they should be bloody ashamed. Let Jacko down, let us down.0
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Oh definitelyForeverAddickted said:
We bemoaned Naby having a long deal - He left us a completely different player to the one that joinedse9addick said:
Luckily we only signed him on a short term deal!Lordflashheart said:And Charlie Kirk - jeez, simply horrendous - how the fuck did he miss the target with the shot he had (ok it would have been ruled out, but he put it wider of the goal than the distance he shot from !!!)
Hope Charlie will be able to do similst.1 -
I can’t believe the number of posts are about the commentator and not about our ineffective display up front. Come on guys, I know we are upset about the performance but it’s nothing to do with the stand-in commentator l.1
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Jacko’s pre-match interview was unfortunately correct and paraphrasing Disappointing to lose key players the game as we had worked so hard with them in the training ground before then. We have done our best to replicate that but I’m pretty sure we’re fucked unless we get lucky’
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Another poor away performance - can't see us threatening the playoff places.0
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Glad we played in red1
