a win is a win .. good to see Morgan and Jaiyesimi having good ones .. however, we need a new goalkeeper next season if we have ambitions of getting anywhere near promotion .. good that Inniss is getting the full 90 and a nice calm goal from Washington .. all in all am 6.5/10 performance
MacGillivray: dropped a doddle for the first goal, kicking was ropey and flapped again 2nd half - worst game for us so far Clare: steady Inniss: steady with ropey passing Famewo: shaky with very ropey passing Dobson: industrious, energetic and ever better passing - P.O.S in the making Matthews: steady, untroubled Gilbey: anonymous first half, decent 2nd Morgan: mostly pretty good, trying too hard perhaps towards the end Aneke: never showed up sulky disinterested and inept Washington: trojan, we're so much poorer without him Jaiyesimi: another day he'd have got a red, after that his Charlton game yet, the.pass.of.the.season - more please
CBT n/a Burstow contributed more in his brief cameo than Chuks bothered Fraser n/a
Ref: best for ages Wombles: they're pony at the moment, easy to see why their recent results are so shabby, both goals only came from Charlton errors aside from that they had one shot MacG had to deal with
BTW if the woman in the red coat who refused to let me go past to get to my seat because I didn't "go the right entrance" 10 minutes before kick off is reading this I hope you spilled your coffee.
Good grief what is it with people ? I just can't imagine what goes through their mind doing shit like this.
I don't think you can down play how much of a difference Aneke has made. I don't think we would have got the last 4 league results without him.
Look what happened in the game he missed.
Not replacing him in the summer was more costly than not sacking Adkins sooner.
If Aneke hadn't won that header ;DJ can't make that pass.
Chuks was a tad out of salts yesterday but a great signing for 300k. He is good at this level and we do need a target man in League 1. Pleased I went ape when Washington was wasted on the wing under Adkins. Conor has more chance of scoring in a two up front with Chuks or Stockley. Two players up front attacking the box central is paramount in the iffy 3rd tier.
I thought that was obvious at Cafc but others get too excited about the myriad of permutations. Morgan and Gilbey have flaws but their energy will really help Fraser. Football stopped being a 11 a side game decades ago.
Dobson is first name down as defensive midfielder but will be interesting calls by JJ as the season move on with the other midfield options.
It looks like Aneke should have been marking the scorer for their second
If y’all wanna know what’s going on with the attendance figures, you just need to buy Voice of the Valley.
I ain’t gonna spill the beans here - shell out, you tightarses - but based on what I have read there, I can assert with confidence that yesterdays real attendance was just shy of 15k, and that the reasons why they are inflated are, as usual, rather boring. And 15k for a mid table L1 game with modest away turnout, is IMO pretty decent.
I don't think you can down play how much of a difference Aneke has made. I don't think we would have got the last 4 league results without him.
Look what happened in the game he missed.
Not replacing him in the summer was more costly than not sacking Adkins sooner.
If Aneke hadn't won that header ;DJ can't make that pass.
Chuks was a tad out of salts yesterday but a great signing for 300k. He is good at this level and we do need a target man in League 1. Pleased I went ape when Washington was wasted on the wing under Adkins. Conor has more chance of scoring in a two up front with Chuks or Stockley. Two players up front attacking the box central is paramount in the iffy 3rd tier.
I thought that was obvious at Cafc but others get too excited about the myriad of permutations. Morgan and Gilbey have flaws but their energy will really help Fraser. Football stopped being a 11 a side game decades ago.
Dobson is first name down as defensive midfielder but will be interesting calls by JJ as the season move on with the other midfield options.
It looks like Aneke should have been marking the scorer for their second
Clare was marking him. Wimbledon blocked him off (pre planned move?)
Wimbledon were the second worst team seen at the Valley this season after Doncaster.
On attendances, is Sandgaard inflating the crowd to help attract a buyer or business partner? Embarrassing seeing these numbers in a half full stadium.
To be fair a half full stadium would indicate 13,500, there was clearly more than that. Why are people, not just you, saying there wasn’t that many then deliberately saying it’s less than it probably was. If they said there was 27,000 and clearly wasn’t, would people enjoy the game less?. My point is does it really matter?.
Wimbledon were the second worst team seen at the Valley this season after Doncaster.
On attendances, is Sandgaard inflating the crowd to help attract a buyer or business partner? Embarrassing seeing these numbers in a half full stadium.
To be fair a half full stadium would indicate 13,500, there was clearly more than that. Why are people, not just you, saying there wasn’t that many then deliberately saying it’s less than it probably was. If they said there was 27,000 and clearly wasn’t, would people enjoy the game less?. My point is does it really matter?.
Jesus, if you want to be pedantic there were probably 15k in attendance, certainly closer to half full that the 22k figure that was reported. If it doesn't matter, why do the club lie about it ? It's just bizarre.
A slightly chaotic game, with a few moments of real class punctuating some very poor defending and uninspiring play. Ultimately, however, we deserved the win and all that matters are the three points that move us into the calm waters of mid-table. A very important result, with 5 tough games coming up, including trips to Bolton, Wigan and Wednesday.
Both of Wimbledon's goals came from uncharacteristic defensive errors, although the second was, in fairness, a good headed finish. Our inability to put the game to bed in the second half made for a nervous finish against a dogged, if somewhat limited, Wimbledon side.
DJ had an outstanding game after his early introduction from the bench and his pass to Washington for our second was right up there with Lee’s against Plymouth as assist of the season. Inniss was, as ever, a real threat from Albie’s set plays and once we get Stockley back, we should be as good as anyone in the division in this important aspect of the game.
Clare and Dobson continued their consistently fine form and Morgan and Washington also played well. Aneke looked off the pace and fatigued towards the end and I expect that he’ll be joining Ryan Inniss on the bench on Tuesday. A shame because Ryan really is a potent offensive weapon, with a goal and a couple of assists in his last 4 games. We’ll certainly miss his intimidating presence, as teams really struggle to handle him.
A pretty strong bench yesterday, which is important, given that many of those players, as well as John and Castillo, are going to be needed over the next month or two. At least we have some depth and options, which not all teams in this division possess. Let's hope that Corey-Blackett-Taylor will be fit again soon and that we see Stockley and JFC back in action before the end of the season on 30 April.
I don't think you can down play how much of a difference Aneke has made. I don't think we would have got the last 4 league results without him.
Look what happened in the game he missed.
Not replacing him in the summer was more costly than not sacking Adkins sooner.
If Aneke hadn't won that header ;DJ can't make that pass.
Chuks was a tad out of salts yesterday but a great signing for 300k. He is good at this level and we do need a target man in League 1. Pleased I went ape when Washington was wasted on the wing under Adkins. Conor has more chance of scoring in a two up front with Chuks or Stockley. Two players up front attacking the box central is paramount in the iffy 3rd tier.
I thought that was obvious at Cafc but others get too excited about the myriad of permutations. Morgan and Gilbey have flaws but their energy will really help Fraser. Football stopped being a 11 a side game decades ago.
Dobson is first name down as defensive midfielder but will be interesting calls by JJ as the season move on with the other midfield options.
You keep saying this but why do all the teams that get promoted, 8 of the last 9, and 5 of the current top six play 3 or 1 up front?
If it just doesn't work for us, I assume that's because we never got the right players for it to work? In our 2 best patchs last season we played some sort of 433 hybrid.
As you rightly say its about getting players between the posts in the box. When you play 4231/433 you should always have at least 3 players in the box from a cross. The fact we played it badly this season doesn't make it a bad system.
Wimbledon were the second worst team seen at the Valley this season after Doncaster.
On attendances, is Sandgaard inflating the crowd to help attract a buyer or business partner? Embarrassing seeing these numbers in a half full stadium.
To be fair a half full stadium would indicate 13,500, there was clearly more than that. Why are people, not just you, saying there wasn’t that many then deliberately saying it’s less than it probably was. If they said there was 27,000 and clearly wasn’t, would people enjoy the game less?. My point is does it really matter?.
Jesus, if you want to be pedantic there were probably 15k in attendance, certainly closer to half full that the 22k figure that was reported. If it doesn't matter, why do the club lie about it ? It's just bizarre.
Why does it matter to us as supporters? Are they plucking 22k out of a hat, or is there a reason that’s what they report, has this been asked? I’m sure there’s probably an explanation for it for those it bothers so much.
Apologes if I am incorrect, but I think it is 1.9 PPG (rounding up) since taking over which is automatic promotion form. Sadly, we were clear in the relegation places when Adkins left us. Jacko is going to need to step up from this already decent record if we are to make the play offs.
There proof of a clear foul on McG bloke backed in then just made a bridge for him to go over … then 92nd min after having really nothing today all day he makes a very good save to give us the victory .. that the diff between 1 point and 3
Proof there was no foul. I can't begin to understand how a few people like yourself have the ability to get most everything they say, see and hear wrong. It's like your brain is somehow wired back to front.
There proof of a clear foul on McG bloke backed in then just made a bridge for him to go over … then 92nd min after having really nothing today all day he makes a very good save to give us the victory .. that the diff between 1 point and 3
Proof there was no foul. I can't begin to understand how a few people like yourself have the ability to get most everything they say, see and hear wrong. It's like your brain is somehow wired back to front.
There proof of a clear foul on McG bloke backed in then just made a bridge for him to go over … then 92nd min after having really nothing today all day he makes a very good save to give us the victory .. that the diff between 1 point and 3
Proof there was no foul. I can't begin to understand how a few people like yourself have the ability to get most everything they say, see and hear wrong. It's like your brain is somehow wired back to front.
The fact he actually manages to turn his computer/smart phone on, open a Web browser and actually type makes me think its on purpose. No one that is really that thick could actually function in real life. Either that or he dictates it to his carer.
Oh, give Conor a new contract. He scores goals at this level, he's showing that. And his presence makes all the difference in the world with his intelligent running and hard work. It's no coincidence that we play better when he plays.
We need to be giving Dobson a new contract before some championship club comes waving a fat cheque.
Great 3 points. 22k crowd? Sounds incredible for us in div 1 no deals on offer or did I miss something, views please, also what was atmosphere like please, for a long distance supporter hoping to make his first valley trip next month Great Result. Coyr!
Nowhere near 22,000 in the ground. Felt more like 13,000.
no chance - there was probably 8k in the north strand alone - probably 3.5k in the east stand and 5k in the west stand 1.2k in the away end so £17- 18k actual i'd say
Attendance means number of people attending, so 22,486 is a lie of almost Trumpian proportions ;-)
I think they could say the gate was 22,486, as that is more associated with gate revenue, but if they want to an attendance figer, then that should be the number of people attending.
strewth - why do seemingly intelligent people still keep banging on about this - the attendance / gate is calculated the same way by every club in the country so if our gates are a bit inflated by non attending season ticket holders and comps / offers, then so are the figures of every other club in the land !!
Great 3 points. 22k crowd? Sounds incredible for us in div 1 no deals on offer or did I miss something, views please, also what was atmosphere like please, for a long distance supporter hoping to make his first valley trip next month Great Result. Coyr!
Nowhere near 22,000 in the ground. Felt more like 13,000.
no chance - there was probably 8k in the north strand alone - probably 3.5k in the east stand and 5k in the west stand 1.2k in the away end so £17- 18k actual i'd say
Wimbledon were the second worst team seen at the Valley this season after Doncaster.
On attendances, is Sandgaard inflating the crowd to help attract a buyer or business partner? Embarrassing seeing these numbers in a half full stadium.
To be fair a half full stadium would indicate 13,500, there was clearly more than that. Why are people, not just you, saying there wasn’t that many then deliberately saying it’s less than it probably was. If they said there was 27,000 and clearly wasn’t, would people enjoy the game less?. My point is does it really matter?.
Jesus, if you want to be pedantic there were probably 15k in attendance, certainly closer to half full that the 22k figure that was reported. If it doesn't matter, why do the club lie about it ? It's just bizarre.
It’s not lies but you need to shell out £2 on Voice of The Valley to see why.
There proof of a clear foul on McG bloke backed in then just made a bridge for him to go over … then 92nd min after having really nothing today all day he makes a very good save to give us the victory .. that the diff between 1 point and 3
Proof there was no foul. I can't begin to understand how a few people like yourself have the ability to get most everything they say, see and hear wrong. It's like your brain is somehow wired back to front.
The fact he actually manages to turn his computer/smart phone on, open a Web browser and actually type makes me think its on purpose. No one that is really that thick could actually function in real life. Either that or he dictates it to his carer.
Is this ganging up and personal meanness really necessary?
Dont get the "Red Card" possibility for DJ,I had a very clear view,although his foot was a bit high,the contact was made with the side of his leg after his foot had connected with nothing.Only the dying swan act by the Wimbledon player,made the whole situation look serious.
I don't think you can down play how much of a difference Aneke has made. I don't think we would have got the last 4 league results without him.
Look what happened in the game he missed.
Not replacing him in the summer was more costly than not sacking Adkins sooner.
If Aneke hadn't won that header ;DJ can't make that pass.
Chuks was a tad out of salts yesterday but a great signing for 300k. He is good at this level and we do need a target man in League 1. Pleased I went ape when Washington was wasted on the wing under Adkins. Conor has more chance of scoring in a two up front with Chuks or Stockley. Two players up front attacking the box central is paramount in the iffy 3rd tier.
I thought that was obvious at Cafc but others get too excited about the myriad of permutations. Morgan and Gilbey have flaws but their energy will really help Fraser. Football stopped being a 11 a side game decades ago.
Dobson is first name down as defensive midfielder but will be interesting calls by JJ as the season move on with the other midfield options.
It looks like Aneke should have been marking the scorer for their second
Yes I think you are correct but wasn't a great look for big Ryan Inniss either when it just went over his head as he couldn't move his feet quick enough. (I'm a big fan of Ryan but mistakes are made)
I don't think you can down play how much of a difference Aneke has made. I don't think we would have got the last 4 league results without him.
Look what happened in the game he missed.
Not replacing him in the summer was more costly than not sacking Adkins sooner.
If Aneke hadn't won that header ;DJ can't make that pass.
Chuks was a tad out of salts yesterday but a great signing for 300k. He is good at this level and we do need a target man in League 1. Pleased I went ape when Washington was wasted on the wing under Adkins. Conor has more chance of scoring in a two up front with Chuks or Stockley. Two players up front attacking the box central is paramount in the iffy 3rd tier.
I thought that was obvious at Cafc but others get too excited about the myriad of permutations. Morgan and Gilbey have flaws but their energy will really help Fraser. Football stopped being a 11 a side game decades ago.
Dobson is first name down as defensive midfielder but will be interesting calls by JJ as the season move on with the other midfield options.
It looks like Aneke should have been marking the scorer for their second
Yes I think you are correct but wasn't a great look for big Ryan Inniss either when it just went over his head as he couldn't move his feet quick enough. (I'm a big fan of Ryan but mistakes are made)
Watch the highlights. Clare was marking the scorer, but the Wimbledon player lurking in an offside position before the free kick ran straight into Clare, leaving Heneghan free. Aneke was marking someone else.
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Clare: steady
Inniss: steady with ropey passing
Famewo: shaky with very ropey passing
Dobson: industrious, energetic and ever better passing - P.O.S in the making
Matthews: steady, untroubled
Gilbey: anonymous first half, decent 2nd
Morgan: mostly pretty good, trying too hard perhaps towards the end
Aneke: never showed up sulky disinterested and inept
Washington: trojan, we're so much poorer without him
Jaiyesimi: another day he'd have got a red, after that his Charlton game yet, the.pass.of.the.season - more please
CBT n/a
Burstow contributed more in his brief cameo than Chuks bothered
Fraser n/a
Ref: best for ages
Wombles: they're pony at the moment, easy to see why their recent results are so shabby, both goals only came from Charlton errors aside from that they had one shot MacG had to deal with
I ain’t gonna spill the beans here - shell out, you tightarses - but based on what I have read there, I can assert with confidence that yesterdays real attendance was just shy of 15k, and that the reasons why they are inflated are, as usual, rather boring. And 15k for a mid table L1 game with modest away turnout, is IMO pretty decent.
Y’all welcome
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/four-takeaways-from-charlton-athletics-3-2-win-over-afc-wimbledon-not-a-day-for-the-defences/
Both of Wimbledon's goals came from uncharacteristic defensive errors, although the second was, in fairness, a good headed finish. Our inability to put the game to bed in the second half made for a nervous finish against a dogged, if somewhat limited, Wimbledon side.
DJ had an outstanding game after his early introduction from the bench and his pass to Washington for our second was right up there with Lee’s against Plymouth as assist of the season. Inniss was, as ever, a real threat from Albie’s set plays and once we get Stockley back, we should be as good as anyone in the division in this important aspect of the game.
Clare and Dobson continued their consistently fine form and Morgan and Washington also played well. Aneke looked off the pace and fatigued towards the end and I expect that he’ll be joining Ryan Inniss on the bench on Tuesday. A shame because Ryan really is a potent offensive weapon, with a goal and a couple of assists in his last 4 games. We’ll certainly miss his intimidating presence, as teams really struggle to handle him.
A pretty strong bench yesterday, which is important, given that many of those players, as well as John and Castillo, are going to be needed over the next month or two. At least we have some depth and options, which not all teams in this division possess. Let's hope that Corey-Blackett-Taylor will be fit again soon and that we see Stockley and JFC back in action before the end of the season on 30 April.
If it just doesn't work for us, I assume that's because we never got the right players for it to work? In our 2 best patchs last season we played some sort of 433 hybrid.
As you rightly say its about getting players between the posts in the box. When you play 4231/433 you should always have at least 3 players in the box from a cross. The fact we played it badly this season doesn't make it a bad system.
What's JJ's record in league since taking over?
I can't begin to understand how a few people like yourself have the ability to get most everything they say, see and hear wrong. It's like your brain is somehow wired back to front.
Yes I think you are correct but wasn't a great look for big Ryan Inniss either when it just went over his head as he couldn't move his feet quick enough. (I'm a big fan of Ryan but mistakes are made)
Watch the highlights. Clare was marking the scorer, but the Wimbledon player lurking in an offside position before the free kick ran straight into Clare, leaving Heneghan free. Aneke was marking someone else.