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Chris Gunter - gone to AFC Wimbledon (p6)
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I think you see how much of an impact one world class player, and Bale is world class, can have on a team when you look at sides like Romania, Bulgaria in the early 90s and Denmark and Sweden at different times.Sage said:To be fair, I was on about their two best players in Bale and Ramsey. Neither have done anything much at club level for at least a couple of years but turn it on almost every time for Wales. Maybe it’s amplified more bring a home nation, just find it a little odd.
It doesn't always work, has Zlatan ever played in a world cup?0 -
Yeah Zlatan played in the 2002 and 2006 World CupsCafc43v3r said:
I think you see how much of an impact one world class player, and Bale is world class, can have on a team when you look at sides like Romania, Bulgaria in the early 90s and Denmark and Sweden at different times.Sage said:To be fair, I was on about their two best players in Bale and Ramsey. Neither have done anything much at club level for at least a couple of years but turn it on almost every time for Wales. Maybe it’s amplified more bring a home nation, just find it a little odd.
It doesn't always work, has Zlatan ever played in a world cup?1 -
I think Gunter has not been too bad for us, but accept that given his International status he has been a disappointment. Being played out of position has affected how many supporters view him.
Ironically the World Cup may hinder Chris Gunter getting a contract outside the Championship in the same way as missing a couple of games earlier in the season (Burton Away) cost him his starting berth at the Valley.
For a team playing with a traditional Right Back I think he could do a reasonable job. JJ clearly wants a Right Wing Back which isn't suitable for Chris.1 -
He wants to go and get another contract so he's putting in some effort at the tail end of the season.
Let's not forget he spent months fit and not even in the squad.
Forget about being bad for us, I think he's been taking the piss to be honest.
Wales most-capped international.2 -
I’d imagine a move to Wrexham could be on the cards, particularly if they get promoted.1
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He’s been very ordinary even when he’s played at right back.Richard J said:I think Gunter has not been too bad for us, but accept that given his International status he has been a disappointment. Being played out of position has affected how many supporters view him.
Ironically the World Cup may hinder Chris Gunter getting a contract outside the Championship in the same way as missing a couple of games earlier in the season (Burton Away) cost him his starting berth at the Valley.
For a team playing with a traditional Right Back I think he could do a reasonable. JJ clearly wants a Right Wing Back which isn't suitable for Chris.3 -
Last season when he first joined he played during the successful run at Right Back .This year he has only played a couple of times as a conventional Right Back . He started the season as an out of position Left Back.Scoham said:
He’s been very ordinary even when he’s played at right back.Richard J said:I think Gunter has not been too bad for us, but accept that given his International status he has been a disappointment. Being played out of position has affected how many supporters view him.
Ironically the World Cup may hinder Chris Gunter getting a contract outside the Championship in the same way as missing a couple of games earlier in the season (Burton Away) cost him his starting berth at the Valley.
For a team playing with a traditional Right Back I think he could do a reasonable. JJ clearly wants a Right Wing Back which isn't suitable for Chris.0 -
He still never stood out during that run - always did a job rather than really impressed.2
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As a right back he never stood out but was OK. As anything else he has been awful.Scoham said:He still never stood out during that run - always did a job rather than really impressed.
As a right back he was probably better, truth be told, than Solly in 18/19 but neither him nor Matthews were as good as Matthews was in the championship. With their pedigree, age and injury history (plus what we are paying them) I don't think it's wrong to say we expected, rightly, much better than OK.1 -
How addick1956 sees CharltonLife and Chris Gunter:
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An average player on a par ability wise with most of his Charlton teammates.0
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Gunter not let us down at all .. he played in a three and as a wing back and his main position right back ..
when he been called upon he done well and in his last two games was really helping Laville alongside him
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Curbs said the same, finally we’ve confirmed you’re Alan Curbishley.RonnieMoore said:Gunter not let us down at all .. he played in a three and as a wing back and his main position right back ..
when he been called upon he done well and in his last two games was really helping Laville alongside him2 -
Not let us down is another interpretation of “hid and doesn’t put himself out there to do anything” in my books when it comes to Chris Gunter.Has been a passenger since he walked in the door.5
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Chunes said:
1-0 Burton
https://youtu.be/LIijJTMmPK8
Our 3 is even better when you see it from the restart. Watson, Gunter, Williams. The stuff of dreams.1 -
That was the one 8/10 game I've seen Gunter play for us.0
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Anyone else notice Gunter’s pre-match superstition of running over to touch the corner flag in front of the family stand before kick-off? Any other players have quirky habits?
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Will be playing for the Wombles in League Two next season I hear.0
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Makes sense with BowenNo.1 in South London said:Will be playing for the Wombles in League Two next season I hear.0 - Sponsored links:
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He only plays for Welsh coaches...No.1 in South London said:Will be playing for the Wombles in League Two next season I hear.0 -
They haven't renewed Bowen yet and I understand he has certain demands to consider it.killerandflash said:
He only plays for Welsh coaches...No.1 in South London said:Will be playing for the Wombles in League Two next season I hear.0 -
Surely the prospect of being able to mange Gunter will seal the deal.Ferryman said:
They haven't renewed Bowen yet and I understand he has certain demands to consider it.killerandflash said:
He only plays for Welsh coaches...No.1 in South London said:Will be playing for the Wombles in League Two next season I hear.4 -
Feel free to shout me down, but my opinion on CG is that as a respected and experienced international player of many years, he should have been precisely the type of professional to know, understand and lead this team, and the fact that he didn't massively let down his manager and his team and himself. I hope whatever he is doing right now is looking at what has happened with JJ and is having a long hard look at himself in the mirror.
But he won't because he never really cared about the badge or fans even an iota as much as the person he ultimately let down.4 -
My Welsh, Wombles fan friend will be delighted (genuinely).0
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I think some times we are all guilty of expecting anyone over 30 of being a leader and proper "senior pro". Not all people are natural leaders, how ever old and in almost every other walk of life 30-33 is quite young.Manic_mania said:Feel free to shout me down, but my opinion on CG is that as a respected and experienced international player of many years, he should have been precisely the type of professional to know, understand and lead this team, and the fact that he didn't massively let down his manager and his team and himself. I hope whatever he is doing right now is looking at what has happened with JJ and is having a long hard look at himself in the mirror.
But he won't because he never really cared about the badge or fans even an iota as much as the person he ultimately let down.
Doesn't excuse him being poor but it does excuse him being Stuart Pearce c1996.1 -
I know he didn't try because I watched him playaddick1956 said:
Neither of us know whether he tried or not. It didn't look like he didn't and strangely if true such crap performances got him into the Euro finals. Baffling if you are right.Manic_mania said:Feel free to shout me down, but my opinion on CG is that as a respected and experienced international player of many years, he should have been precisely the type of professional to know, understand and lead this team, and the fact that he didn't massively let down his manager and his team and himself. I hope whatever he is doing right now is looking at what has happened with JJ and is having a long hard look at himself in the mirror.
But he won't because he never really cared about the badge or fans even an iota as much as the person he ultimately let down.3 -
He won't be when he realises he's only interested in staying fit for the World Cup, assuming they qualifyAthletico Charlton said:My Welsh, Wombles fan friend will be delighted (genuinely).2 -
That's why he wasn't selected.addick1956 said:
I watched him play too. I tend to do that when I go. It seems to be the point of going.Chunes said:
I know he didn't try because I watched him playaddick1956 said:
Neither of us know whether he tried or not. It didn't look like he didn't and strangely if true such crap performances got him into the Euro finals. Baffling if you are right.Manic_mania said:Feel free to shout me down, but my opinion on CG is that as a respected and experienced international player of many years, he should have been precisely the type of professional to know, understand and lead this team, and the fact that he didn't massively let down his manager and his team and himself. I hope whatever he is doing right now is looking at what has happened with JJ and is having a long hard look at himself in the mirror.
But he won't because he never really cared about the badge or fans even an iota as much as the person he ultimately let down.
I do not believe managers select players because they don't bother all week or on match days.
And that then International Managers select them.on their ability to avoid effort.
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How many times was he selected by Jackson... He made seven starts under him. Seven starts in forty games.addick1956 said:
He has been selected by Jackson and Wales last season just gone though.Chunes said:
That's why he wasn't selected.addick1956 said:
I watched him play too. I tend to do that when I go. It seems to be the point of going.Chunes said:
I know he didn't try because I watched him playaddick1956 said:
Neither of us know whether he tried or not. It didn't look like he didn't and strangely if true such crap performances got him into the Euro finals. Baffling if you are right.Manic_mania said:Feel free to shout me down, but my opinion on CG is that as a respected and experienced international player of many years, he should have been precisely the type of professional to know, understand and lead this team, and the fact that he didn't massively let down his manager and his team and himself. I hope whatever he is doing right now is looking at what has happened with JJ and is having a long hard look at himself in the mirror.
But he won't because he never really cared about the badge or fans even an iota as much as the person he ultimately let down.
I do not believe managers select players because they don't bother all week or on match days.
And that then International Managers select them.on their ability to avoid effort.
You apparently do.
This is Wales most-capped international we're talking about, and he couldn't even be a regular in a struggling league one side? He was clearly not trying. All he cares about is Wales.
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