Any referee that gets to this level has had to live through the nightmare of starting out. Starting out at an extremely low level of teams that expect you to be able to referee your first game as well as Collina. You then have to endure season after season of threat and dogs abuse from players, and more often those on the sidelines who suggest you should be doing something else. Regardless of the fact they are crap coaches, players, parents and spectators themselves. I imagine Rebecca Welch has already lived through the worst experience of refereeing. I say again. Referees should be regarded the same as the weather and pitch conditions. Provided they’re not bribed or biased then that is enough. Or play without a ref? ’ref as we go’? One teams manager wandering around giving half hearted decisions from the furthest corner from the play? Karl Robinson told me he has influenced referees ‘loads of times’, that he hates them, and they are to be dismissed as geeks who were bullied at school. Robinson is the tosser here, not referees.
bloody 'ell..............her old man's tea is going be late on Saturday then !! I hope he don't mind waiting for her to get in & start cooking it............
Grow up.
It.was.a.joke.
Jesus.....I cant win on here can I. Make a joke and people moan, be myself & I'm labelled a meaner.
And btw. I'm one of the least male chauvinist blokes you'll find. I'm currently bringing up 3 teenagers on my own. I cook, clean, do the washing & ironing, the food shopping & work 5 days a f**king week. I get nothing from either the Government in the way of child benefit or maintenance from the ex wife.
Now put that in your pipe & smoke it !!!!
I am disappointed in you golfie
Disappointed that you didn't get a coming from behind gag in there
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
It comes down to getting better referees in our league. Gender has nothing to do with it.
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
Doesn't anyone else think that it goes against equality to hear that the women and children flee Ukraine and that the men stay back to fight? When it comes down to it, men, not women, are still expected to put their lives on the line.
Then again, wars have always started by men, except perhaps Jeanne d'Arc. Would a modern female leader start a war?
These are things that go through my mind. I'm in no way sexist. My wife and I are an example of complete role reversal, which perhaps explains why I try to see it from both points of view, unlike the feminists.
Anyway good luck to Mme Welch. I hope she outruns our softies and tells them so.
Kettle isn't even the worst. Stroud was positively GOOD last time he reffed us. There's so much worse, they just aren't big names. Linington comes to mind, and whoever the Rotherham ref was
Doesn't anyone else think that it goes against equality to hear that the women and children flee Ukraine and that the men stay back to fight? When it comes down to it, men, not women, are still expected to put their lives on the line.
Then again, wars have always started by men, except perhaps Jeanne d'Arc. Would a modern female leader start a war?
These are things that go through my mind. I'm in no way sexist. My wife and I are an example of complete role reversal, which perhaps explains why I try to see it from both points of view, unlike the feminists.
Anyway good luck to Mme Welch. I hope she outruns our softies and tells them so.
Doesn't anyone else think that it goes against equality to hear that the women and children flee Ukraine and that the men stay back to fight? When it comes down to it, men, not women, are still expected to put their lives on the line.
Then again, wars have always started by men, except perhaps Jeanne d'Arc. Would a modern female leader start a war?
These are things that go through my mind. I'm in no way sexist. My wife and I are an example of complete role reversal, which perhaps explains why I try to see it from both points of view, unlike the feminists.
Anyway good luck to Mme Welch. I hope she outruns our softies and tells them so.
Wonder when the day will come when fellas' don't feel the need to start a thread detailing that a men's professional football match will be officiated by a woman?
Doesn't anyone else think that it goes against equality to hear that the women and children flee Ukraine and that the men stay back to fight? When it comes down to it, men, not women, are still expected to put their lives on the line.
Then again, wars have always started by men, except perhaps Jeanne d'Arc. Would a modern female leader start a war?
These are things that go through my mind. I'm in no way sexist. My wife and I are an example of complete role reversal, which perhaps explains why I try to see it from both points of view, unlike the feminists.
Anyway good luck to Mme Welch. I hope she outruns our softies and tells them so.
I prefer to believe that there is only one point of view and really no natural roles to be reversed.
It is as ridiculous to define roles because of someone's sex as it is to define roles because of the colour of their skin.
Doesn't anyone else think that it goes against equality to hear that the women and children flee Ukraine and that the men stay back to fight? When it comes down to it, men, not women, are still expected to put their lives on the line.
Then again, wars have always started by men, except perhaps Jeanne d'Arc. Would a modern female leader start a war?
These are things that go through my mind. I'm in no way sexist. My wife and I are an example of complete role reversal, which perhaps explains why I try to see it from both points of view, unlike the feminists.
Anyway good luck to Mme Welch. I hope she outruns our softies and tells them so.
There are many examples from the resistance in European countries during WW2 where women absolutely put their lives on the line as much as the men. All equally astonishingly brave in those circumstances.
Does anyone remember the lino from Selhurst days. He didn't have any arms, just withered pecking stumps.
Richard (I have forgotten his surname). He was a thalidomide baby and lived somewhere around Eltham. He lined on Charlton's return to The Valley against Portsmouth, when I was 4th official for that game. His Linesman's flag had to be tied to one of his arm stumps. He bore his disability with great fortitude, undertaking many DIY tasks that some fully abled men were unable to do.
Does anyone remember the lino from Selhurst days. He didn't have any arms, just withered pecking stumps.
Richard (I have forgotten his surname). He was a thalidomide baby and lived somewhere around Eltham. He lined on Charlton's return to The Valley against Portsmouth, when I was 4th official for that game. His Linesman's flag had to be tied to one of his arm stumps. He bore his disability with great fortitude, undertaking many DIY tasks that some fully abled men were unable to do.
Does anyone remember the lino from Selhurst days. He didn't have any arms, just withered pecking stumps.
Richard (I have forgotten his surname). He was a thalidomide baby and lived somewhere around Eltham. He lined on Charlton's return to The Valley against Portsmouth, when I was 4th official for that game. His Linesman's flag had to be tied to one of his arm stumps. He bore his disability with great fortitude, undertaking many DIY tasks that some fully abled men were unable to do.
Does anyone remember the lino from Selhurst days. He didn't have any arms, just withered pecking stumps.
Richard (I have forgotten his surname). He was a thalidomide baby and lived somewhere around Eltham. He lined on Charlton's return to The Valley against Portsmouth, when I was 4th official for that game. His Linesman's flag had to be tied to one of his arm stumps. He bore his disability with great fortitude, undertaking many DIY tasks that some fully abled men were unable to do.
were rules less stringent in those days? A linesman from Eltham and a fan as the 4th official.
Sounds a bit like Sunday mornings in Sutcliffe Park...
We are talking about an era prior to the input of Sky money. The incident that brought up the implementation of the 4th official was when a linesman got injured at Highbury (early 1980s?) and Jimmy Hill took up the flag, having been at the game as a match commentator (I think).
In the early days, when I was involved, the 4th officials' roles were limited to holding the sole match ball, spare linesman's flags and noting caution and sending off details (time of offence, players number and details of incident). The 4th officials came from the next level down in the football pyramid, in my case as a referee in the Premier Division of the Isthmian League. Linesman could be relatively local, to keep down costs.
When Charlton announced their return to The Valley, I rang the then Referees Secretary of the Isthmian League, explained my support for Charlton and asked for the appointment, which was granted. I met the said gentleman in the Sun of the Sands pub in Shooters Hill Road, Blackheath and gave him my two complimentary match tickets!
Does anyone remember the lino from Selhurst days. He didn't have any arms, just withered pecking stumps.
Richard (I have forgotten his surname). He was a thalidomide baby and lived somewhere around Eltham. He lined on Charlton's return to The Valley against Portsmouth, when I was 4th official for that game. His Linesman's flag had to be tied to one of his arm stumps. He bore his disability with great fortitude, undertaking many DIY tasks that some fully abled men were unable to do.Best
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Starting out at an extremely low level of teams that expect you to be able to referee your first game as well as Collina.
You then have to endure season after season of threat and dogs abuse from players, and more often those on the sidelines who suggest you should be doing something else.
Regardless of the fact they are crap coaches, players, parents and spectators themselves.
I imagine Rebecca Welch has already lived through the worst experience of refereeing.
I say again. Referees should be regarded the same as the weather and pitch conditions. Provided they’re not bribed or biased then that is enough.
Or play without a ref?
’ref as we go’?
One teams manager wandering around giving half hearted decisions from the furthest corner from the play?
Karl Robinson told me he has influenced referees ‘loads of times’, that he hates them, and they are to be dismissed as geeks who were bullied at school.
Robinson is the tosser here, not referees.
Disappointed that you didn't get a coming from behind gag in there
Some people need to lighten up.
It is not nonsense.
When it comes down to it, men, not women, are still expected to put their lives on the line.
Then again, wars have always started by men, except perhaps Jeanne d'Arc. Would a modern female leader start a war?
These are things that go through my mind. I'm in no way sexist. My wife and I are an example of complete role reversal, which perhaps explains why I try to see it from both points of view, unlike the feminists.
Anyway good luck to Mme Welch. I hope she outruns our softies and tells them so.
Margaret Thatcher. Falklands perhaps?
If she can put in a similar type of performance herself on Saturday, then she'll have done well
It is as ridiculous to define roles because of someone's sex as it is to define roles because of the colour of their skin.
All equally astonishingly brave in those circumstances.
Sounds a bit like Sunday mornings in Sutcliffe Park...
In the early days, when I was involved, the 4th officials' roles were limited to holding the sole match ball, spare linesman's flags and noting caution and sending off details (time of offence, players number and details of incident). The 4th officials came from the next level down in the football pyramid, in my case as a referee in the Premier Division of the Isthmian League. Linesman could be relatively local, to keep down costs.
When Charlton announced their return to The Valley, I rang the then Referees Secretary of the Isthmian League, explained my support for Charlton and asked for the appointment, which was granted. I met the said gentleman in the Sun of the Sands pub in Shooters Hill Road, Blackheath and gave him my two complimentary match tickets!