Not sure why anyone even bothers engaging with the budget Jordan Peterson.
For me it is because there are other Charltonians who subscribe to the notion that there should be a ‘war on woke’ which he seeks to validate but I think is wrong. There must always be a push back against racists or they feel empowered.
Not sure why anyone even bothers engaging with the budget Jordan Peterson.
Agree that we shouldn't feed the racist, sexist religious fundamentalist but I think people find it hard to comprehend that there actually are people this bigoted and brainwashed who walk among us.
Not sure why anyone even bothers engaging with the budget Jordan Peterson.
For me it is because there are other Charltonians who subscribe to the notion that should be a ‘war on woke’ which he seeks to validate but I think is wrong. There must always be a push back against racists or they feel empowered.
I’d argue you are doing the opposite by engaging with someone like that, who clearly feels empowered by and thrives on having the opportunity to espouse their views.
If people didn’t respond, then there wouldn't be further opportunity for them to express and double down on them.
Just my opinion of course, and the last I’ll say on the matter, as I don’t wish to further the discourse.
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
And that’s why people are turning their backs on religion.
Not sure why anyone even bothers engaging with the budget Jordan Peterson.
For me it is because there are other Charltonians who subscribe to the notion that should be a ‘war on woke’ which he seeks to validate but I think is wrong. There must always be a push back against racists or they feel empowered.
I’d argue you are doing the opposite by engaging with someone like that, who clearly feels empowered by and thrives on having the opportunity to espouse their views.
If people didn’t respond, then there wouldn't be further opportunity for them to express and double down on them.
Just my opinion of course, and the last I’ll say on the matter, as I don’t wish to further the discourse.
We can disagree. In terms of fight or flight I am more inclined to fight.
I do not use the word woke nor do I understand what it means, when someone uses woke I ask them what it means and always get a different answer - perhaps that is what woke means As for Rebecca a good game except for the red card but many refs would have bottled that so early in the game.
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
This is a load of bollocks. She was actually one of the best referees I've seen down at The Valley for a while. Your point that very able men will be turned away is absurd.
I don't see how a woman who clearly is a qualified referee officiating a Charlton game is 'woke'
Don't get me wrong there are plenty of things in this country that could fall under the category of 'woke' but this certainly isn't it.
I'm taking a stab in the dark, you believe Boris when he says 'We're taking back control" and "building back better"
The problem with some in fact nearly all male refs is they want to be centre of attention .. you hardly noticed her yesterday and that’s a sign of a decent ref
thought she was poor, mainly in our favour - wouldn't have been happy if i were burton
In our favour … Burton should have been down to 10 men after only 8 mins and that was their long throw player …. Think Burton had the biggest decision in the game go their way thankfully did not take advantage
thought she was poor, mainly in our favour - wouldn't have been happy if i were burton
You didn't think all the yellows were justified for Burton ?
The tackle by the 37 for Burton went in their favour but a Red by Trevor Kettle or if VAR was in operation. I have only seen it once in real time and I said it's 50/50 yellow or Red on what decision the ref will give. I personally thought it was a red but a Neutral fan who was in my group of 5 thought Yellow in real time but did admit that red wouldn't be a shock.
I welcome the day when Refs are judged on their performance not their gender. I appreciate that is still some way off and that is why so many of us have commented on this thread.
I think the red card she missed was one of those where you probably needed VAR or the assistance of your team. I thought it could be a red in real time but wasn't sure and I think you have to be sure. Overall though, she was a decent ref and it is no surprise based on that that she is on her way up rather than down.
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
Woke means anti racist. It is not nonsense.
But it doesn't. It IS nonsense.
Woke means looking for a scapegoat for why your life has gone wrong/you influence noone/you feed on pity and blame.
"Why am I poor?" ~ The rich have done this to me. "Why am I angry?" Because white people have oppressed me for 400 years. "Why don't I get equal pay?" Because men have rigged the system.
Now in some instances the poor, the person of colour, women HAVE good argument for these being valid points. And that is good and right to challenge these when such instances arise.
The WOKE person however, is distorted in everything they think, say and do. And for them ALL poor people, ALL people of colour or ALL women have been treated in this terrible way.
It's not "anti-racist" it's a mental illness. As with all distorted thinking it needs to be brought back into the rational realm. Where there is balance and a degree of truth can be established.
And as many far more learned commentators have said in the past, the biggest threat to woke people are in fact poor people who DONT blame the rich, people of colour who take personal responsibility seriously and don't blame white people for their state in life and women who actually choose to be housewives, who are proud of their hardworking husbands, who raise large families. This surely proves therefore that Woke CANT be the definition of Anti-racist because woke people hate races that are Christian Conservative and perfectly comfortable with white people who gave them lots of opportunities and succeed just like them. Sorry but woke is not antiracist. It's anti-truth.
Was this written after a few beers ?
The Irony of this post written by someone who was on there high horse because God forbid a woman was referring a Charlton game.
Personally if they match the required standard (clearly she did) I don't care if the ref is Male, Female, Black, White, Pink, Blue or Brown. It's not relevant.
Have you ever thought that your view may also be distorted, with your 'anti woke' views ? Just a casual observation.
Jesus christ, don’t bring god into it with this guy.
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
Woke means anti racist. It is not nonsense.
But it doesn't. It IS nonsense.
Woke means looking for a scapegoat for why your life has gone wrong/you influence noone/you feed on pity and blame.
"Why am I poor?" ~ The rich have done this to me. "Why am I angry?" Because white people have oppressed me for 400 years. "Why don't I get equal pay?" Because men have rigged the system.
Now in some instances the poor, the person of colour, women HAVE good argument for these being valid points. And that is good and right to challenge these when such instances arise.
The WOKE person however, is distorted in everything they think, say and do. And for them ALL poor people, ALL people of colour or ALL women have been treated in this terrible way.
It's not "anti-racist" it's a mental illness. As with all distorted thinking it needs to be brought back into the rational realm. Where there is balance and a degree of truth can be established.
And as many far more learned commentators have said in the past, the biggest threat to woke people are in fact poor people who DONT blame the rich, people of colour who take personal responsibility seriously and don't blame white people for their state in life and women who actually choose to be housewives, who are proud of their hardworking husbands, who raise large families. This surely proves therefore that Woke CANT be the definition of Anti-racist because woke people hate races that are Christian Conservative and perfectly comfortable with white people who gave them lots of opportunities and succeed just like them. Sorry but woke is not antiracist. It's anti-truth.
Was this written after a few beers ?
The Irony of this post written by someone who was on there high horse because God forbid a woman was referring a Charlton game.
Personally if they match the required standard (clearly she did) I don't care if the ref is Male, Female, Black, White, Pink, Blue or Brown. It's not relevant.
Have you ever thought that your view may also be distorted, with your 'anti woke' views ? Just a casual observation.
He always talks nonsense. Nothing to do with beers I’m afraid but that would make sense.
Yes maybe the challenge was a red card but so be it, you can’t make every correct decision even if it might have turned out to be a big one, but it didn’t.
She’ll go far in the game and it’s actually refreshing.
However, it shows we still have so much further to go that this is even a topic. The sex of the referee should not be a topic that’s discussed. She proved her ability to do the job very well and that is what matters.
Good post. But I would add that although I agree with the sentiment behind the bit I’ve put in bold, I also think open discussion is a necessary part of the normalisation process. The unfortunate truth is that any change will meet resistance (no matter how positive that change is), but in my view, the conversation about change should be taken to those who resist. Openly and publicly. If a change is demonstrably positive, such as this one, there will inevitably come a time when people start to say “Why are we even having this conversation any more?” For you and, I suspect, quite a few others, that time is already upon us, but to my mind, the conversation needs to continue while we still see dinosaurs rearing their heads spouting outdated views and opinions bereft of thought or consideration. All the while, we learn more about why some people are so resistant to change, so we all benefit. We just need patience. It will normalise. It can be frustrating, but that’s just how it works.
I do not use the word woke nor do I understand what it means, when someone uses woke I ask them what it means and always get a different answer - perhaps that is what woke means As for Rebecca a good game except for the red card but many refs would have bottled that so early in the game.
I agree. I don't think it simply means anti-racist. Also, someone can't 'be woke' because woke isn't an adjective. You can be awoken or awake. Woke seems mostly to be used as 'aware of racism.'
Yes maybe the challenge was a red card but so be it, you can’t make every correct decision even if it might have turned out to be a big one, but it didn’t.
She’ll go far in the game and it’s actually refreshing.
However, it shows we still have so much further to go that this is even a topic. The sex of the referee should not be a topic that’s discussed. She proved her ability to do the job very well and that is what matters.
Good post. But I would add that although I agree with the sentiment behind the bit I’ve put in bold, I also think open discussion is a necessary part of the normalisation process. The unfortunate truth is that any change will meet resistance (no matter how positive that change is), but in my view, the conversation about change should be taken to those who resist. Openly and publicly. If a change is demonstrably positive, such as this one, there will inevitably come a time when people start to say “Why are we even having this conversation any more?” For you and, I suspect, quite a few others, that time is already upon us, but to my mind, the conversation needs to continue while we still see dinosaurs rearing their heads spouting outdated views and opinions bereft of thought or consideration. All the while, we learn more about why some people are so resistant to change, so we all benefit. We just need patience. It will normalise. It can be frustrating, but that’s just how it works.
Honestly don't get the fuss over a female referee, it has no relevance whatsoever.
I didn't see the fuss over the name of the Women's team either if I'm honest.
Not sure why anyone even bothers engaging with the budget Jordan Peterson.
For me it is because there are other Charltonians who subscribe to the notion that there should be a ‘war on woke’ which he seeks to validate but I think is wrong. There must always be a push back against racists or they feel empowered.
The word Woke means different things to different people. Your derfinition is that it means being anti racist. Other people see it differently. You keep saying it means anti racist as if it's a fact. It's not it's just your opinion of what it means.
I agree with your last sentence though as racism must always be opposed.
Without doubt the best referee we've had at The Valley this season....thought she did a great job....the sign of a good referee is that you dont notice them..(unlike a certain Mr Stroud)....I would be happy if she officiated at further matches that we are involved in. Well done Rebecca! Finally to those who say women should not referee men's games...what century are you living in FFS!
Yes maybe the challenge was a red card but so be it, you can’t make every correct decision even if it might have turned out to be a big one, but it didn’t.
She’ll go far in the game and it’s actually refreshing.
However, it shows we still have so much further to go that this is even a topic. The sex of the referee should not be a topic that’s discussed. She proved her ability to do the job very well and that is what matters.
Good post. But I would add that although I agree with the sentiment behind the bit I’ve put in bold, I also think open discussion is a necessary part of the normalisation process. The unfortunate truth is that any change will meet resistance (no matter how positive that change is), but in my view, the conversation about change should be taken to those who resist. Openly and publicly. If a change is demonstrably positive, such as this one, there will inevitably come a time when people start to say “Why are we even having this conversation any more?” For you and, I suspect, quite a few others, that time is already upon us, but to my mind, the conversation needs to continue while we still see dinosaurs rearing their heads spouting outdated views and opinions bereft of thought or consideration. All the while, we learn more about why some people are so resistant to change, so we all benefit. We just need patience. It will normalise. It can be frustrating, but that’s just how it works.
Honestly don't get the fuss over a female referee, it has no relevance whatsoever.
I didn't see the fuss over the name of the Women's team either if I'm honest.
Absolutely right. It isn’t relevant. But some people think it is. So that conversation needs to happen. Many people may just check out of the conversation, and that’s ok because they don’t see it as an issue and maybe it’s not that important to them. No problem.
I also understand why you and many others don’t see the fuss over the women’s team name. But again, some people do. So the conversation continues and those who don’t see what the big deal is or don’t have a strong view can choose not to engage or observe from the sidelines. Whatever works for them.
The point is, the existence of conversation and debate is very rarely a negative thing in itself.
Without doubt the best referee we've had at The Valley this season....thought she did a great job....the sign of a good referee is that you dont notice them..(unlike a certain Mr Stroud)....I would be happy if she officiated at further matches that we are involved in. Well done Rebecca! Finally to those who say women should not referee men's games...what century are you living in FFS!
I think VoT is Judea, AD33, Saturday afternoon, about teatime.
It was a significant moment as she was the first female ref to officiate us. But she showed that it wasn't really a big deal and ultimately it is great that we shall soon take it all for granted.
Not sure why anyone even bothers engaging with the budget Jordan Peterson.
For me it is because there are other Charltonians who subscribe to the notion that there should be a ‘war on woke’ which he seeks to validate but I think is wrong. There must always be a push back against racists or they feel empowered.
The word Woke means different things to different people. Your derfinition is that it means being anti racist. Other people see it differently. You keep saying it means anti racist as if it's a fact. It's not it's just your opinion of what it means.
I agree with your last sentence though as racism must always be opposed.
You’ve said something I agree with. ‘Woke’ means anti racist in my opinion and also in my opinion anybody saying there should be a war on woke is saying that nobody should be battling racism. My opinion is not fact, my opinions (and I have a lot of opinions) are there to frequently offer challenge and raise questions. In the past on Charlton Life I have discussed other words that have very elusive meanings like ‘professional’ or ‘just’. For me, and perhaps for others, anybody who says there ought to be a war on woke is saying they support racism, but I am open to persuasion as to why my assumption is wrong.
Not sure why anyone even bothers engaging with the budget Jordan Peterson.
For me it is because there are other Charltonians who subscribe to the notion that there should be a ‘war on woke’ which he seeks to validate but I think is wrong. There must always be a push back against racists or they feel empowered.
The word Woke means different things to different people. Your derfinition is that it means being anti racist. Other people see it differently. You keep saying it means anti racist as if it's a fact. It's not it's just your opinion of what it means.
I agree with your last sentence though as racism must always be opposed.
You’ve said something I agree with. ‘Woke’ means anti racist in my opinion and also in my opinion anybody saying there should be a war on woke is saying that nobody should be battling racism. My opinion is not fact, my opinions (and I have a lot of opinions) are there to frequently offer challenge and raise questions. In the past on Charlton Life I have discussed other words that have very elusive meanings like ‘professional’ or ‘just’. For me, and perhaps for others, anybody who says there ought to be a war on woke is saying they support racism, but I am open to persuasion as to why my assumption is wrong.
You are as entitled to your opinion as is anyone else. I am definitely anti racism But I am also not Woke. In my opinion it is possible to be both. Anyway enjoy your Sunday.
Not sure why anyone even bothers engaging with the budget Jordan Peterson.
For me it is because there are other Charltonians who subscribe to the notion that there should be a ‘war on woke’ which he seeks to validate but I think is wrong. There must always be a push back against racists or they feel empowered.
The word Woke means different things to different people. Your derfinition is that it means being anti racist. Other people see it differently. You keep saying it means anti racist as if it's a fact. It's not it's just your opinion of what it means.
I agree with your last sentence though as racism must always be opposed.
Maybe it’s best to stick to the dictionary definition.
I do not use the word woke nor do I understand what it means, when someone uses woke I ask them what it means and always get a different answer - perhaps that is what woke means As for Rebecca a good game except for the red card but many refs would have bottled that so early in the game.
I agree. I don't think it simply means anti-racist. Also, someone can't 'be woke' because woke isn't an adjective. You can be awoken or awake. Woke seems mostly to be used as 'aware of racism.'
Thought she was okay. Could maybe have issued a red for that challenge in the first half, but was difficult to see from where I was. There was also an incident where Dobson was clearly fouled and hobbling but she waved play on. A similar thing happened to one of their players in the 2nd half, no free kick, but she stopped play so he get treatment after a bit of hobbling about! Bit of consistency was required there. I didn't have a problem playing on if she didn't think it was a foul, but needs to be the same for both sides. All in all though, she was decent and certainly better than a fair few refs we've had this year.
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
Do you know Nick Grey by any chance? You'd get on like the proverbial house on fire...
Yes maybe the challenge was a red card but so be it, you can’t make every correct decision even if it might have turned out to be a big one, but it didn’t.
She’ll go far in the game and it’s actually refreshing.
However, it shows we still have so much further to go that this is even a topic. The sex of the referee should not be a topic that’s discussed. She proved her ability to do the job very well and that is what matters.
Good post. But I would add that although I agree with the sentiment behind the bit I’ve put in bold, I also think open discussion is a necessary part of the normalisation process. The unfortunate truth is that any change will meet resistance (no matter how positive that change is), but in my view, the conversation about change should be taken to those who resist. Openly and publicly. If a change is demonstrably positive, such as this one, there will inevitably come a time when people start to say “Why are we even having this conversation any more?” For you and, I suspect, quite a few others, that time is already upon us, but to my mind, the conversation needs to continue while we still see dinosaurs rearing their heads spouting outdated views and opinions bereft of thought or consideration. All the while, we learn more about why some people are so resistant to change, so we all benefit. We just need patience. It will normalise. It can be frustrating, but that’s just how it works.
Very good explanation and I completely agree/understand. It’s just a shame we are still so far behind where we ought to be on many topics, and that frustrates me. However, the more good conversations are had and we do normalise something that should already be normal, sooner or later, these things will not be needed because we judge someone based on their ability to do the job, not anything else because it’s not anything else that matters.
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
Woke means anti racist. It is not nonsense.
But it doesn't. It IS nonsense.
Woke means looking for a scapegoat for why your life has gone wrong/you influence noone/you feed on pity and blame.
"Why am I poor?" ~ The rich have done this to me. "Why am I angry?" Because white people have oppressed me for 400 years. "Why don't I get equal pay?" Because men have rigged the system.
Now in some instances the poor, the person of colour, women HAVE good argument for these being valid points. And that is good and right to challenge these when such instances arise.
The WOKE person however, is distorted in everything they think, say and do. And for them ALL poor people, ALL people of colour or ALL women have been treated in this terrible way.
It's not "anti-racist" it's a mental illness. As with all distorted thinking it needs to be brought back into the rational realm. Where there is balance and a degree of truth can be established.
And as many far more learned commentators have said in the past, the biggest threat to woke people are in fact poor people who DONT blame the rich, people of colour who take personal responsibility seriously and don't blame white people for their state in life and women who actually choose to be housewives, who are proud of their hardworking husbands, who raise large families. This surely proves therefore that Woke CANT be the definition of Anti-racist because woke people hate races that are Christian Conservative and perfectly comfortable with white people who gave them lots of opportunities and succeed just like them. Sorry but woke is not antiracist. It's anti-truth.
If you stop banging on about this nonsense I’ll stop banging on about Jimmy Seed. Deal?
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There must always be a push back against racists or they feel empowered.
If people didn’t respond, then there wouldn't be further opportunity for them to express and double down on them.
Well done 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
In terms of fight or flight I am more inclined to fight.
As for Rebecca a good game except for the red card but many refs would have bottled that so early in the game.
Simply the best refereeing performance in the history of the world.
You didn't think all the yellows were justified for Burton ?
The tackle by the 37 for Burton went in their favour but a Red by Trevor Kettle or if VAR was in operation. I have only seen it once in real time and I said it's 50/50 yellow or Red on what decision the ref will give.
I personally thought it was a red but a Neutral fan who was in my group of 5 thought Yellow in real time but did admit that red wouldn't be a shock.
I welcome the day when Refs are judged on their performance not their gender. I appreciate that is still some way off and that is why so many of us have commented on this thread.
oh god, now I’ve brought jesus into it.
jesus wept, I’ve mentioned god again.
Oh god…
etc. 🤪
If a change is demonstrably positive, such as this one, there will inevitably come a time when people start to say “Why are we even having this conversation any more?” For you and, I suspect, quite a few others, that time is already upon us, but to my mind, the conversation needs to continue while we still see dinosaurs rearing their heads spouting outdated views and opinions bereft of thought or consideration. All the while, we learn more about why some people are so resistant to change, so we all benefit.
We just need patience. It will normalise. It can be frustrating, but that’s just how it works.
Your derfinition is that it means being anti racist.
Other people see it differently.
You keep saying it means anti racist as if it's a fact.
It's not it's just your opinion of what it means.
I agree with your last sentence though as racism must always be opposed.
Finally to those who say women should not referee men's games...what century are you living in FFS!
I also understand why you and many others don’t see the fuss over the women’s team name. But again, some people do. So the conversation continues and those who don’t see what the big deal is or don’t have a strong view can choose not to engage or observe from the sidelines. Whatever works for them.
The point is, the existence of conversation and debate is very rarely a negative thing in itself.
I think VoT is Judea, AD33, Saturday afternoon, about teatime.
My opinion is not fact, my opinions (and I have a lot of opinions) are there to frequently offer challenge and raise questions.
In the past on Charlton Life I have discussed other words that have very elusive meanings like ‘professional’ or ‘just’.
For me, and perhaps for others, anybody who says there ought to be a war on woke is saying they support racism, but I am open to persuasion as to why my assumption is wrong.
I am definitely anti racism
But I am also not Woke.
In my opinion it is possible to be both.
Anyway enjoy your Sunday.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woke
The OED defines woke as follows: