Not sure why anyone even bothers engaging with the budget Jordan Peterson.
For me it is because there are other Charltonians who subscribe to the notion that there should be a ‘war on woke’ which he seeks to validate but I think is wrong. There must always be a push back against racists or they feel empowered.
The word Woke means different things to different people. Your derfinition is that it means being anti racist. Other people see it differently. You keep saying it means anti racist as if it's a fact. It's not it's just your opinion of what it means.
I agree with your last sentence though as racism must always be opposed.
Maybe it’s best to stick to the dictionary definition.
I do not use the word woke nor do I understand what it means, when someone uses woke I ask them what it means and always get a different answer - perhaps that is what woke means As for Rebecca a good game except for the red card but many refs would have bottled that so early in the game.
I agree. I don't think it simply means anti-racist. Also, someone can't 'be woke' because woke isn't an adjective. You can be awoken or awake. Woke seems mostly to be used as 'aware of racism.'
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
Woke means anti racist. It is not nonsense.
But it doesn't. It IS nonsense.
Woke means looking for a scapegoat for why your life has gone wrong/you influence noone/you feed on pity and blame.
"Why am I poor?" ~ The rich have done this to me. "Why am I angry?" Because white people have oppressed me for 400 years. "Why don't I get equal pay?" Because men have rigged the system.
Now in some instances the poor, the person of colour, women HAVE good argument for these being valid points. And that is good and right to challenge these when such instances arise.
The WOKE person however, is distorted in everything they think, say and do. And for them ALL poor people, ALL people of colour or ALL women have been treated in this terrible way.
It's not "anti-racist" it's a mental illness. As with all distorted thinking it needs to be brought back into the rational realm. Where there is balance and a degree of truth can be established.
And as many far more learned commentators have said in the past, the biggest threat to woke people are in fact poor people who DONT blame the rich, people of colour who take personal responsibility seriously and don't blame white people for their state in life and women who actually choose to be housewives, who are proud of their hardworking husbands, who raise large families. This surely proves therefore that Woke CANT be the definition of Anti-racist because woke people hate races that are Christian Conservative and perfectly comfortable with white people who gave them lots of opportunities and succeed just like them. Sorry but woke is not antiracist. It's anti-truth.
Please tell me you’re on some horrible and disturbing wind up because if not it’s even worse than I imagined.
You actually have no idea what you’re talking about and all you are doing is spreading hate and it’s shameful.
Embarrassed we have Charlton supporters like this, but unfortunately, I think they’re everywhere still.
Not everywhere, it’s just a little clique and a few hangers on.
Advances in women’s football and the introduction of women referees, just winds them up, even when they turn out to be decent, like Rebecca. Imagine getting triggered by something so trivial.
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
Do you know Nick Grey by any chance? You'd get on like the proverbial house on fire...
I strongly suspect he knows Nick Gray VERY well...
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
The best ref of the season today. I hate to also tell you that Rachael Blackmore was the winning Gold Cup jockey yesterday. Anyway, wishing you a happy 150th birthday.
For Christs sake don’t tell him they can drive now
Perhaps he’d feel more comfortable in Saudi Arabia.
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
The best ref of the season today. I hate to also tell you that Rachael Blackmore was the winning Gold Cup jockey yesterday. Anyway, wishing you a happy 150th birthday.
For Christs sake don’t tell him they can drive now
Perhaps he’d feel more comfortable in Saudi Arabia.
Non-believers excluded from some cities, no civil rights, woman kept in their "traditional roles", medieval religious fundamentalism.
Won't it be a better world when threads like this don't exist? When a female official isn't a strange thing that everyone feels they need to comment about.
I've seen a lot of outdated comments about Welch on here and social media, even including some praising her. The fact she is a woman doesn't make her a better referee nor does it in any way hinder her ability.
I personally thought she did well yesterday. Best ref this season? Maybe but honestly can everyone remember every single good refereeing performance we've had? I'd imagine I'm similar that a lot of time I thought a ref did well it's quickly forgotten about and hopefully give it enough time when a female official isn't unusual and a good refereeing performance by one is just a side note in the post match comments.
Won't it be a better world when threads like this don't exist? When a female official isn't a strange thing that everyone feels they need to comment about.
I've seen a lot of outdated comments about Welch on here and social media, even including some praising her. The fact she is a woman doesn't make her a better referee nor does it in any way hinder her ability.
I personally thought she did well yesterday. Best ref this season? Maybe but honestly can everyone remember every single good refereeing performance we've had? I'd imagine I'm similar that a lot of time I thought a ref did well it's quickly forgotten about and hopefully give it enough time when a female official isn't unusual and a good refereeing performance by one is just a side note in the post match comments.
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
Woke means anti racist. It is not nonsense.
But it doesn't. It IS nonsense.
Woke means looking for a scapegoat for why your life has gone wrong/you influence noone/you feed on pity and blame.
"Why am I poor?" ~ The rich have done this to me. "Why am I angry?" Because white people have oppressed me for 400 years. "Why don't I get equal pay?" Because men have rigged the system.
Now in some instances the poor, the person of colour, women HAVE good argument for these being valid points. And that is good and right to challenge these when such instances arise.
The WOKE person however, is distorted in everything they think, say and do. And for them ALL poor people, ALL people of colour or ALL women have been treated in this terrible way.
It's not "anti-racist" it's a mental illness. As with all distorted thinking it needs to be brought back into the rational realm. Where there is balance and a degree of truth can be established.
And as many far more learned commentators have said in the past, the biggest threat to woke people are in fact poor people who DONT blame the rich, people of colour who take personal responsibility seriously and don't blame white people for their state in life and women who actually choose to be housewives, who are proud of their hardworking husbands, who raise large families. This surely proves therefore that Woke CANT be the definition of Anti-racist because woke people hate races that are Christian Conservative and perfectly comfortable with white people who gave them lots of opportunities and succeed just like them. Sorry but woke is not antiracist. It's anti-truth.
Please tell me you’re on some horrible and disturbing wind up because if not it’s even worse than I imagined.
You actually have no idea what you’re talking about and all you are doing is spreading hate and it’s shameful.
Embarrassed we have Charlton supporters like this, but unfortunately, I think they’re everywhere still.
Not everywhere, it’s just a little clique and a few hangers on.
Advances in women’s football and the introduction of women referees, just winds them up, even when they turn out to be decent, like Rebecca. Imagine getting triggered by something so trivial.
But people like this are everywhere.
In every walk of life you will still find someone so ignorant, so dinosaur like, so out of touch of reality, so uneducated, and what is actually right and wrong. And that’s the biggest shame of it all because we still have a long way to go, even in 2022. Yes, things are so, so much better than they were, so much. But that’s still not enough.
Walking to The Valley from the station, a car drives past and people near me jokingly say ‘that’s Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink’ no, it clearly wasn’t, it was nearly 2pm, he’s driving a taxi, and the only reason why they said it was because it was a black man driving. That’s casual racism. It’s wrong. You wouldn’t find them saying that’s Johnnie Jackson if it was a random white man driving and that is the point.
I will still be able to go to the pub and hear racist and sexist comments as if it’s normal when it’s completely wrong. The same at a supermarket, walking down the street, at a football match, wherever it might be. And until more people call it out and make these pathetic excuses of human beings aware that it’s wrong and not to be accepted, we aren’t going to progress much further too soon.
That is what woke means to me. As a man in his 20’s, woke means to me that you are aware, you have your eyes open to what is really going on, be it racial, sexual, or any other discrimination, and you don’t stand for it. To me, woke means you’re pushing back on the social inequalities and standing up for what is right. That doesn’t make my definition correct, but that’s what it means to me.
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
Woke means anti racist. It is not nonsense.
But it doesn't. It IS nonsense.
Woke means looking for a scapegoat for why your life has gone wrong/you influence noone/you feed on pity and blame.
"Why am I poor?" ~ The rich have done this to me. "Why am I angry?" Because white people have oppressed me for 400 years. "Why don't I get equal pay?" Because men have rigged the system.
Now in some instances the poor, the person of colour, women HAVE good argument for these being valid points. And that is good and right to challenge these when such instances arise.
The WOKE person however, is distorted in everything they think, say and do. And for them ALL poor people, ALL people of colour or ALL women have been treated in this terrible way.
It's not "anti-racist" it's a mental illness. As with all distorted thinking it needs to be brought back into the rational realm. Where there is balance and a degree of truth can be established.
And as many far more learned commentators have said in the past, the biggest threat to woke people are in fact poor people who DONT blame the rich, people of colour who take personal responsibility seriously and don't blame white people for their state in life and women who actually choose to be housewives, who are proud of their hardworking husbands, who raise large families. This surely proves therefore that Woke CANT be the definition of Anti-racist because woke people hate races that are Christian Conservative and perfectly comfortable with white people who gave them lots of opportunities and succeed just like them. Sorry but woke is not antiracist. It's anti-truth.
Please tell me you’re on some horrible and disturbing wind up because if not it’s even worse than I imagined.
You actually have no idea what you’re talking about and all you are doing is spreading hate and it’s shameful.
Embarrassed we have Charlton supporters like this, but unfortunately, I think they’re everywhere still.
Not everywhere, it’s just a little clique and a few hangers on.
Advances in women’s football and the introduction of women referees, just winds them up, even when they turn out to be decent, like Rebecca. Imagine getting triggered by something so trivial.
But people like this are everywhere.
In every walk of life you will still find someone so ignorant, so dinosaur like, so out of touch of reality, so uneducated, and what is actually right and wrong. And that’s the biggest shame of it all because we still have a long way to go, even in 2022. Yes, things are so, so much better than they were, so much. But that’s still not enough.
Walking to The Valley from the station, a car drives past and people near me jokingly say ‘that’s Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink’ no, it clearly wasn’t, it was nearly 2pm, he’s driving a taxi, and the only reason why they said it was because it was a black man driving. That’s casual racism. It’s wrong. You wouldn’t find them saying that’s Johnnie Jackson if it was a random white man driving and that is the point.
I will still be able to go to the pub and hear racist and sexist comments as if it’s normal when it’s completely wrong. The same at a supermarket, walking down the street, at a football match, wherever it might be. And until more people call it out and make these pathetic excuses of human beings aware that it’s wrong and not to be accepted, we aren’t going to progress much further too soon.
That is what woke means to me. As a man in his 20’s, woke means to me that you are aware, you have your eyes open to what is really going on, be it racial, sexual, or any other discrimination, and you don’t stand for it. To me, woke means you’re pushing back on the social inequalities and standing up for what is right. That doesn’t make my definition correct, but that’s what it means to me.
^This
Don't believe it? How about my mate's kid coming home from school last week and telling a story about his mate crying because one of the girls said she didn't want to play with him because he was black and he smells. He's six.
I remember being told that racism would be a thing of the past in the next generation when I was a teenager. That was thirty years ago...
I only meant amongst that small group of Charlton fans, rather than in society in general. They’re not so much ignorant, as politically motivated. They seem to believe all the conspiracy theories about George Soros etc etc. Funny bunch. They don’t comment much on the football threads, interestingly.
she missed a lot of cynical fouls - the worst was when purrington accidentally on purpose collided with their striker who would have been clean through on goal on about 70 mins - there were plenty of others
I suspect that if we had lost and especially if Hamer (the guy not sent off) had scored a 90th minute winner for them, the ref would have been getting pelters for not issuing a red...
It was an obvious red I thought.
Dobson got up pretty quickly and was uninjured, plus it was so early in the game. Can see why she didn’t give it. You might get 50% in those circumstances?
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
This is a load of bollocks. She was actually one of the best referees I've seen down at The Valley for a while. Your point that very able men will be turned away is absurd.
I don't see how a woman who clearly is a qualified referee officiating a Charlton game is 'woke'
Don't get me wrong there are plenty of things in this country that could fall under the category of 'woke' but this certainly isn't it.
I'm taking a stab in the dark, you believe Boris when he says 'We're taking back control" and "building back better"
The assertion ( by one of the Antifa types on here) was that the word "woke" is the exact definition for the term "anti-racist".
I merely responded to this nonsense in my above post by proving that it isn't. Take a read of it and comment on that rather than on what hasnt been written.
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
Woke means anti racist. It is not nonsense.
But it doesn't. It IS nonsense.
Woke means looking for a scapegoat for why your life has gone wrong/you influence noone/you feed on pity and blame.
"Why am I poor?" ~ The rich have done this to me. "Why am I angry?" Because white people have oppressed me for 400 years. "Why don't I get equal pay?" Because men have rigged the system.
Now in some instances the poor, the person of colour, women HAVE good argument for these being valid points. And that is good and right to challenge these when such instances arise.
The WOKE person however, is distorted in everything they think, say and do. And for them ALL poor people, ALL people of colour or ALL women have been treated in this terrible way.
It's not "anti-racist" it's a mental illness. As with all distorted thinking it needs to be brought back into the rational realm. Where there is balance and a degree of truth can be established.
And as many far more learned commentators have said in the past, the biggest threat to woke people are in fact poor people who DONT blame the rich, people of colour who take personal responsibility seriously and don't blame white people for their state in life and women who actually choose to be housewives, who are proud of their hardworking husbands, who raise large families. This surely proves therefore that Woke CANT be the definition of Anti-racist because woke people hate races that are Christian Conservative and perfectly comfortable with white people who gave them lots of opportunities and succeed just like them. Sorry but woke is not antiracist. It's anti-truth.
Was this written after a few beers ?
The Irony of this post written by someone who was on there high horse because God forbid a woman was referring a Charlton game.
Personally if they match the required standard (clearly she did) I don't care if the ref is Male, Female, Black, White, Pink, Blue or Brown. It's not relevant.
Have you ever thought that your view may also be distorted, with your 'anti woke' views ? Just a casual observation.
No high horse here Ionman. We are all (just about!) allowed to have a view on the way society is going. I fully understand that my position on some, not all, issues will
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
This is a load of bollocks. She was actually one of the best referees I've seen down at The Valley for a while. Your point that very able men will be turned away is absurd.
I don't see how a woman who clearly is a qualified referee officiating a Charlton game is 'woke'
Don't get me wrong there are plenty of things in this country that could fall under the category of 'woke' but this certainly isn't it.
I'm taking a stab in the dark, you believe Boris when he says 'We're taking back control" and "building back better"
The assertion ( by one of the Antifa types on here) was that the word "woke" is the exact definition for the term "anti-racist".
I merely responded to this nonsense in my above post by proving that it isn't. Take a read of it and comment on that rather than on what hasnt been written.
If you don't like people who are against fascism are you pro fascism? Simple yes or no
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
This is a load of bollocks. She was actually one of the best referees I've seen down at The Valley for a while. Your point that very able men will be turned away is absurd.
I don't see how a woman who clearly is a qualified referee officiating a Charlton game is 'woke'
Don't get me wrong there are plenty of things in this country that could fall under the category of 'woke' but this certainly isn't it.
I'm taking a stab in the dark, you believe Boris when he says 'We're taking back control" and "building back better"
The assertion ( by one of the Antifa types on here) was that the word "woke" is the exact definition for the term "anti-racist".
I merely responded to this nonsense in my above post by proving that it isn't. Take a read of it and comment on that rather than on what hasnt been written.
If you don't like people who are against fascism are you pro fascism? Simple yes or no
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
This is a load of bollocks. She was actually one of the best referees I've seen down at The Valley for a while. Your point that very able men will be turned away is absurd.
I don't see how a woman who clearly is a qualified referee officiating a Charlton game is 'woke'
Don't get me wrong there are plenty of things in this country that could fall under the category of 'woke' but this certainly isn't it.
I'm taking a stab in the dark, you believe Boris when he says 'We're taking back control" and "building back better"
The assertion ( by one of the Antifa types on here) was that the word "woke" is the exact definition for the term "anti-racist".
I merely responded to this nonsense in my above post by proving that it isn't. Take a read of it and comment on that rather than on what hasnt been written.
If you don't like people who are against fascism are you pro fascism? Simple yes or no
Erm... I'm against fascism. I like myself. And I'm against the woke nonsense also. And I suspect a great many other people hold these views. For fascism and woke are not opposites as antifa types would have some believe. At their root ~ they both hate.
Why are people letting this shitstain of a 'man' wind them up? Just ignore him until he gets irritated enough by it to do something that gets him banned.
Why are people letting this shitstain of a 'man' wind them up? Just ignore him until he gets irritated enough by it to do something that gets him banned.
I like mental gymnastics, and this loon is a great watch
Why are people letting this shitstain of a 'man' wind them up? Just ignore him until he gets irritated enough by it to do something that gets him banned.
Hate-filled abusive Leroy clamouring for a perfectly civil person to be "banned". How incredibly antifa of you! Keep sharing the love brother!
The thread was simply an opinion on refereeing. And regarding women referees. Perfectly civil. The point was raised "I don't care if the referee is male female black white or blue (blue?) if they can do the job then I'm fine with that". That is a perfectly reasonable view to hold. It is one, however, that I don't share.
I know some men who are excellent full time single parents (have full custody etc) As gifted as they are at "playing mum' (and dad) I would not therefore encourage all men to pursue motherhood. Apart from anything else, we have mothers that are already perfectly able and right for this role. If the mainstream media and govt all aggressively promoted men to pursue motherhood ~ I would STILL disagree with this approach. It is not because I doubt there are men out there capable of undertaking the enormous responsibility of motherhood and meeting the many challenges perfectly well. It is because it would inevitably lead to less women presenting themselves for this role. And I dont see replacing one sex with the other leads to the strengthening of family, societal, cultural bonds. Quite the opposite in fact.
I wish this woman every success refereeing. Women's football matches.
Bloody hell Valley of Tears, you need a good shake. If a person is good enough woman or man, then they should be refereeing at the highest available level.
None of this woke, political rubbish. Clearly based on the ratings thread Rebecca is good enough to ref at the top level.
Edit- Hate the term woke, just responding to what was previously posted by VOT
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
This is a load of bollocks. She was actually one of the best referees I've seen down at The Valley for a while. Your point that very able men will be turned away is absurd.
I don't see how a woman who clearly is a qualified referee officiating a Charlton game is 'woke'
Don't get me wrong there are plenty of things in this country that could fall under the category of 'woke' but this certainly isn't it.
I'm taking a stab in the dark, you believe Boris when he says 'We're taking back control" and "building back better"
The assertion ( by one of the Antifa types on here) was that the word "woke" is the exact definition for the term "anti-racist".
I merely responded to this nonsense in my above post by proving that it isn't. Take a read of it and comment on that rather than on what hasnt been written.
If you don't like people who are against fascism are you pro fascism? Simple yes or no
Erm... I'm against fascism. I like myself. And I'm against the woke nonsense also. And I suspect a great many other people hold these views. For fascism and woke are not opposites as antifa types would have some believe. At their root ~ they both hate.
Yes - they both hate racists and fascists. I am therefore not in the least bit surprised that you don't like them.
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
This is a load of bollocks. She was actually one of the best referees I've seen down at The Valley for a while. Your point that very able men will be turned away is absurd.
I don't see how a woman who clearly is a qualified referee officiating a Charlton game is 'woke'
Don't get me wrong there are plenty of things in this country that could fall under the category of 'woke' but this certainly isn't it.
I'm taking a stab in the dark, you believe Boris when he says 'We're taking back control" and "building back better"
The assertion ( by one of the Antifa types on here) was that the word "woke" is the exact definition for the term "anti-racist".
I merely responded to this nonsense in my above post by proving that it isn't. Take a read of it and comment on that rather than on what hasnt been written.
Another poisonous post. Something’s twisting you up inside.
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Just as it’s better to be a do gooder (another target of the Tory right) than a do badder.
He'd fit right in.
I've seen a lot of outdated comments about Welch on here and social media, even including some praising her. The fact she is a woman doesn't make her a better referee nor does it in any way hinder her ability.
I personally thought she did well yesterday. Best ref this season? Maybe but honestly can everyone remember every single good refereeing performance we've had? I'd imagine I'm similar that a lot of time I thought a ref did well it's quickly forgotten about and hopefully give it enough time when a female official isn't unusual and a good refereeing performance by one is just a side note in the post match comments.
In every walk of life you will still find someone so ignorant, so dinosaur like, so out of touch of reality, so uneducated, and what is actually right and wrong. And that’s the biggest shame of it all because we still have a long way to go, even in 2022. Yes, things are so, so much better than they were, so much. But that’s still not enough.
Walking to The Valley from the station, a car drives past and people near me jokingly say ‘that’s Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink’ no, it clearly wasn’t, it was nearly 2pm, he’s driving a taxi, and the only reason why they said it was because it was a black man driving. That’s casual racism. It’s wrong. You wouldn’t find them saying that’s Johnnie Jackson if it was a random white man driving and that is the point.
I will still be able to go to the pub and hear racist and sexist comments as if it’s normal when it’s completely wrong. The same at a supermarket, walking down the street, at a football match, wherever it might be. And until more people call it out and make these pathetic excuses of human beings aware that it’s wrong and not to be accepted, we aren’t going to progress much further too soon.
That is what woke means to me. As a man in his 20’s, woke means to me that you are aware, you have your eyes open to what is really going on, be it racial, sexual, or any other discrimination, and you don’t stand for it. To me, woke means you’re pushing back on the social inequalities and standing up for what is right. That doesn’t make my definition correct, but that’s what it means to me.
Don't believe it? How about my mate's kid coming home from school last week and telling a story about his mate crying because one of the girls said she didn't want to play with him because he was black and he smells. He's six.
I remember being told that racism would be a thing of the past in the next generation when I was a teenager. That was thirty years ago...
I merely responded to this nonsense in my above post by proving that it isn't. Take a read of it and comment on that rather than on what hasnt been written.
Youre disgusting.
Don't feed him and eventually he'll get bored and wander off.
None of this woke, political rubbish. Clearly based on the ratings thread Rebecca is good enough to ref at the top level.
Edit- Hate the term woke, just responding to what was previously posted by VOT
We had a good referee for the game who gave decisions on what they saw at pitch level.
We had a good referee for the game who gave decisions on what they saw at pitch level.