I love how it's always the right who are "cancelled" when they have their opinions challenged. Meanwhile, books are banned all the time, the people doing it are nearly always the same people who fight against the "woke".
I love how it's always the right who are "cancelled" when they have their opinions challenged. Meanwhile, books are banned all the time, the people doing it are nearly always the same people who fight against the "woke".
To anyone reading who may feel offended by those nasty woke people…
We aren’t cancelling you, we are challenging you. Meanwhile religious zealots here in the States are having books banned from children’s school libraries that focus on topics that they don’t agree with.
There’s one article above but do look it up, it’s actually happening. And it won’t take long for sections of the British public to follow suit. Meanwhile, I’ll give you three attempts at trying to name a right wing mouthpiece that has actually been ‘cancelled’.
If you could point out (without the banal ad hominum attacks) what exactly is "poisonous" "twisted" "racist(!)" "Fascist(!)' "trolling" "disgusting" "vile and controlling" in my posting ~ I would be most grateful. If I have been misleading, abusive, ambiguous etc ~ it would be good to know this. I can't see this at all.
Do you seriously want to live in a world where everyone MUST have the same opinion otherwise they are "cancelled"? Or as someone jumped in "Ban 'im") Because that world has been tried before . It's called Communism (coming to a town near you!) It's called tyranny..It's called perpetual fear to express oneself. Shutting down conversation that does not seem agreeable to you is the highest form of ignorance. I don't share the woke view on things but I would never wish to silence those who DO possess woke views.
It's when we are not sure of things and have empty arguments that we tend to shut other people down. Btw ~THATS "controlling" Stu_Kunming. Perhaps look at YOUR argument on these issues and consider how sound THEY really are. I suspect you will find that many of them are flimsy at best.
But "cancelling" people that dare to challenge some of the off-beam leftist empty arguments is the height of stupidity and wreaks of insecurity.
Your views on abortion are "poisonous" "twisted" "disgusting" "vile and controlling"
Not to mention "tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow" being something that society has thankfully left behind save for a few dinosaurs.
The only family values that count for anything are love and support, whether that's single parents of either gender, a mum and dad, two mums or two dads - either married or not, or step parents,or by birth or by adoption, it truly doesn't matter.
If you want to call that woke then by all means go ahead because I really don't care.
"Tradition and family values ...thankfully a thing of the past".
I can't quite believe I'm reading this.
Let us simply accept that some people enjoy the dismantling of tradition and family values (good luck with that as a game plan!) and others do not enjoy this.
To anyone reading who may feel offended by those nasty woke people…
We aren’t cancelling you, we are challenging you. Meanwhile religious zealots here in the States are having books banned from children’s school libraries that focus on topics that they don’t agree with.
There’s one article above but do look it up, it’s actually happening. And it won’t take long for sections of the British public to follow suit. Meanwhile, I’ll give you three attempts at trying to name a right wing mouthpiece that has actually been ‘cancelSELR_addicks said:
"I'm definitely not controlling and sexist but I would force women to stay in the kitchen and rear children for their entire lives".
When one cannot find a single quote to attack someone they ... Invent their own quote and idiotically attribute it to that person. Best leave you in fantasy land.
If you could point out (without the banal ad hominum attacks) what exactly is "poisonous" "twisted" "racist(!)" "Fascist(!)' "trolling" "disgusting" "vile and controlling" in my posting ~ I would be most grateful. If I have been misleading, abusive, ambiguous etc ~ it would be good to know this. I can't see this at all.
Do you seriously want to live in a world where everyone MUST have the same opinion otherwise they are "cancelled"? Or as someone jumped in "Ban 'im") Because that world has been tried before . It's called Communism (coming to a town near you!) It's called tyranny..It's called perpetual fear to express oneself. Shutting down conversation that does not seem agreeable to you is the highest form of ignorance. I don't share the woke view on things but I would never wish to silence those who DO possess woke views.
It's when we are not sure of things and have empty arguments that we tend to shut other people down. Btw ~THATS "controlling" Stu_Kunming. Perhaps look at YOUR argument on these issues and consider how sound THEY really are. I suspect you will find that many of them are flimsy at best.
But "cancelling" people that dare to challenge some of the off-beam leftist empty arguments is the height of stupidity and wreaks of insecurity.
'I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens'
Did you not post above?
Not really sure you need it spelt out to you, you know what you have said... and that was just the beginning, just because it's your opinion does not mean that can't be sexist.
Why should we not challenge people with toxic opinions? Not sure what anyone will achieve trying to reason with you.
JB 1987: It is good and right to challenge opinions. Yes! But one has to ask what the aim of that challenge ultimately is. If it is with an open mind to arrive at what is true then this is admirable. If it is for the sole reason of crushing a dissenting voice or a view that the challenger doesn't like ~ then we have arrived at woke central.
It is wrong however to "ban" and "cancel"others, simply because those opinions don't meet with the approval of the mob.
I would not wish to live in a society that cancelled the voice and views of those around me that didn't share my view. Not at all.
If you could point out (without the banal ad hominum attacks) what exactly is "poisonous" "twisted" "racist(!)" "Fascist(!)' "trolling" "disgusting" "vile and controlling" in my posting ~ I would be most grateful. If I have been misleading, abusive, ambiguous etc ~ it would be good to know this. I can't see this at all.
Do you seriously want to live in a world where everyone MUST have the same opinion otherwise they are "cancelled"? Or as someone jumped in "Ban 'im") Because that world has been tried before . It's called Communism (coming to a town near you!) It's called tyranny..It's called perpetual fear to express oneself. Shutting down conversation that does not seem agreeable to you is the highest form of ignorance. I don't share the woke view on things but I would never wish to silence those who DO possess woke views.
It's when we are not sure of things and have empty arguments that we tend to shut other people down. Btw ~THATS "controlling" Stu_Kunming. Perhaps look at YOUR argument on these issues and consider how sound THEY really are. I suspect you will find that many of them are flimsy at best.
But "cancelling" people that dare to challenge some of the off-beam leftist empty arguments is the height of stupidity and wreaks of insecurity.
'I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens'
Did you not post above?
Not really sure you need it spelt out to you, you know what you have said... and that was just the beginning, just because it's your opinion does not mean that can't be sexist.
Why should we not challenge people with toxic opinions? Not sure what anyone will achieve trying to reason with you.
JB 1987: It is good and right to challenge opinions. Yes! But one has to ask what the aim of that challenge ultimately is. If it is with an open mind to arrive at what is true then this is admirable. If it is for the sole reason of crushing a dissenting voice or a view that the challenger doesn't like ~ then we have arrived at woke central.
It is wrong however to "ban" and "cancel"others, simply because those opinions don't meet with the approval of the mob.
I would not wish to live in a society that cancelled the voice and views of those around me that didn't share my view. Not at all.
You’ve not been banned, or cancelled and are clearly still free to spread your vile nonsense as you see fit.
Why should she be cancelled when she is able to ref a game as well, if not better than most men? We can't judge her on one performance, but on the fact she is heading for promotion to ref higher levels. I think people have generally been saying that they can see why based on what they saw of her and why should she not be allowed to do that?
Have heard Rebecca is doing very well in her 1st season as an EFL Referee after making history last season. Rumoured to be on course for a promotion to the Championship already!
Can't be worse than some we have had this season.
I hope she will be successful and successfully utilised refereeing women's football instead of mens. This relentless push for replacing men with women in every sphere of life may look like some "great leap forward" [to the woke among us] I think it will do in refereeing what it does elsewhere ~ it will turn many very able men away from ever wishing to now pursue that particular profession. It is not the sex of the referee that needs changing, it's the standard of refereeing that needs improving.
As The West slowly sinks further and further into the abyss, we can be thankful that all this woke nonsense will go down with it. And hope for a return to common sense, tradition and family values and clear roles for men and women to live by and follow and a welcome return to calling a spade a spade.
Wishing Rebecca all the very best refereeing the ladies.
Woke means anti racist. It is not nonsense.
But it doesn't. It IS nonsense.
Woke means looking for a scapegoat for why your life has gone wrong/you influence noone/you feed on pity and blame.
"Why am I poor?" ~ The rich have done this to me. "Why am I angry?" Because white people have oppressed me for 400 years. "Why don't I get equal pay?" Because men have rigged the system.
Now in some instances the poor, the person of colour, women HAVE good argument for these being valid points. And that is good and right to challenge these when such instances arise.
The WOKE person however, is distorted in everything they think, say and do. And for them ALL poor people, ALL people of colour or ALL women have been treated in this terrible way.
It's not "anti-racist" it's a mental illness. As with all distorted thinking it needs to be brought back into the rational realm. Where there is balance and a degree of truth can be established.
And as many far more learned commentators have said in the past, the biggest threat to woke people are in fact poor people who DONT blame the rich, people of colour who take personal responsibility seriously and don't blame white people for their state in life and women who actually choose to be housewives, who are proud of their hardworking husbands, who raise large families. This surely proves therefore that Woke CANT be the definition of Anti-racist because woke people hate races that are Christian Conservative and perfectly comfortable with white people who gave them lots of opportunities and succeed just like them. Sorry but woke is not antiracist. It's anti-truth.
If you stop banging on about this nonsense I’ll stop banging on about Jimmy Seed. Deal?
That sounds perfectly reasonable.
You’ve just blown it mate.
Massive post coming about Jimmy Seed’s attitude to smoking and players’ personal hygiene, 1927-34.
VOT is very Rees Mogg, all polite and hiding behind religion to be vile. Suspect if the lord comes back, he’ll smite those who weaponised their religion like VOT first
Reminds me of that line in Hannah and Her Sisters:
“If Jesus was to come back now and see everything that was being done in his name, he wouldn’t be able to stop throwing up.”
Slightly off-topic, I watched on UTube, a programme "Jeff Winter - under the Cosh". Jeff was a Premier League referee, retiring in 2004 (?). The programme is 90 minutes long, but well worth the watch. He tells stories of relationships with players (Danny Mills gets some stick), relationships with football authorities and states his views on current refereeing. Jeff was extremely amusing in his story telling.
To anyone reading who may feel offended by those nasty woke people…
We aren’t cancelling you, we are challenging you. Meanwhile religious zealots here in the States are having books banned from children’s school libraries that focus on topics that they don’t agree with.
There’s one article above but do look it up, it’s actually happening. And it won’t take long for sections of the British public to follow suit. Meanwhile, I’ll give you three attempts at trying to name a right wing mouthpiece that has actually been ‘cancelSELR_addicks said:
"I'm definitely not controlling and sexist but I would force women to stay in the kitchen and rear children for their entire lives".
When one cannot find a single quote to attack someone they ... Invent their own quote and idiotically attribute it to that person. Best leave you in fantasy land.
What role in society do you think that women should play a part in?
Are they allowed to interact with men in the workplace? Maybe perhaps even hold a similar role to a man in the same working environment?
To anyone reading who may feel offended by those nasty woke people…
We aren’t cancelling you, we are challenging you. Meanwhile religious zealots here in the States are having books banned from children’s school libraries that focus on topics that they don’t agree with.
There’s one article above but do look it up, it’s actually happening. And it won’t take long for sections of the British public to follow suit. Meanwhile, I’ll give you three attempts at trying to name a right wing mouthpiece that has actually been ‘cancelSELR_addicks said:
"I'm definitely not controlling and sexist but I would force women to stay in the kitchen and rear children for their entire lives".
When one cannot find a single quote to attack someone they ... Invent their own quote and idiotically attribute it to that person. Best leave you in fantasy land.
What role in society do you think that women should play a part in?
Are they allowed to interact with men in the workplace? Maybe perhaps even hold a similar role to a man in the same working environment?
To anyone reading who may feel offended by those nasty woke people…
We aren’t cancelling you, we are challenging you. Meanwhile religious zealots here in the States are having books banned from children’s school libraries that focus on topics that they don’t agree with.
There’s one article above but do look it up, it’s actually happening. And it won’t take long for sections of the British public to follow suit. Meanwhile, I’ll give you three attempts at trying to name a right wing mouthpiece that has actually been ‘cancelSELR_addicks said:
"I'm definitely not controlling and sexist but I would force women to stay in the kitchen and rear children for their entire lives".
When one cannot find a single quote to attack someone they ... Invent their own quote and idiotically attribute it to that person. Best leave you in fantasy land.
What role in society do you think that women should play a part in?
Are they allowed to interact with men in the workplace? Maybe perhaps even hold a similar role to a man in the same working environment?
SELR: I have mother, aunts, sisters, spouse, daughters, female colleagues and ... believe-it-or-not ... women I count as good friends. As unlikely as it may seem, they rather like my honest - hide nothing - approach. They know I am not 'performing to the gallery' and trying to virtue-signal my way through this short life we have. My terminology may appear (on a thread discussion among the rather woke-minded) to belong in the mid 19th Century but most people I know know the INTENT behind what I am saying. That is to say - they know I am not saying something either for effect or to hurt others. It might come across as clumsy or lacking the 'finesse' of a Guardian article (and thank God for that!) but there is no intended malice. To return to the original thread about a female referee. I applauded that this particular person has attained a high level of competence in her chosen field - refereeing. The umbrage that some have taken stems from where that refereeing should take place. Men's football or women's football. It's hardly Enoch Powell's 'rivers of blood' speech. And yet to the very distorted among us that is EXACTLY what my comment seems to represent. How utterly ridiculous.
The aforesaid women in my life all seem to play a variety of roles in society, yes. Motherhood being by far and away the most rewarding of these roles (they say). But as educated women they have professional lives also. They interact with men in the workplace. Of course.
I suspect there are many on these pages who think a family functions best when mum and dad are both out at work all day (presumably esp with the woman doing a quintessential male job of course!) and their children are left unparented, neglected and zombied out on computer games until those exhausted parents get home each evening. I don't. And I know a good number of men and women that do not subscribe to this particular configuration of family life.
It never fails to baffle me how the perceived 'victims' of all these woke discussions are always the least problematic persons to actually personally encounter in real life. Whether it be ethnic minorities, women, the same sex attracted, the disabled etc. The real problems are the (mostly) white, middle-class liberal/leftists that think they speak for the whole world when in fact they only speak for JUST other white, middle-class liberal/leftists.
And absolutely no one else.
I wish this woman referee - every happiness and success. And, if she has a husband and children - them too.
I do not use the word woke nor do I understand what it means, when someone uses woke I ask them what it means and always get a different answer - perhaps that is what woke means As for Rebecca a good game except for the red card but many refs would have bottled that so early in the game.
I agree. I don't think it simply means anti-racist. Also, someone can't 'be woke' because woke isn't an adjective. You can be awoken or awake. Woke seems mostly to be used as 'aware of racism.'
Aware of social injustice would probably be more accurate. It's never just been about race.
To anyone reading who may feel offended by those nasty woke people…
We aren’t cancelling you, we are challenging you. Meanwhile religious zealots here in the States are having books banned from children’s school libraries that focus on topics that they don’t agree with.
There’s one article above but do look it up, it’s actually happening. And it won’t take long for sections of the British public to follow suit. Meanwhile, I’ll give you three attempts at trying to name a right wing mouthpiece that has actually been ‘cancelSELR_addicks said:
"I'm definitely not controlling and sexist but I would force women to stay in the kitchen and rear children for their entire lives".
When one cannot find a single quote to attack someone they ... Invent their own quote and idiotically attribute it to that person. Best leave you in fantasy land.
What role in society do you think that women should play a part in?
Are they allowed to interact with men in the workplace? Maybe perhaps even hold a similar role to a man in the same working environment?
SELR: I have mother, aunts, sisters, spouse, daughters, female colleagues and ... believe-it-or-not ... women I count as good friends. As unlikely as it may seem, they rather like my honest - hide nothing - approach.
You mean they're stuck with you... Not that they rather like your approach.
To anyone reading who may feel offended by those nasty woke people…
We aren’t cancelling you, we are challenging you. Meanwhile religious zealots here in the States are having books banned from children’s school libraries that focus on topics that they don’t agree with.
There’s one article above but do look it up, it’s actually happening. And it won’t take long for sections of the British public to follow suit. Meanwhile, I’ll give you three attempts at trying to name a right wing mouthpiece that has actually been ‘cancelSELR_addicks said:
"I'm definitely not controlling and sexist but I would force women to stay in the kitchen and rear children for their entire lives".
When one cannot find a single quote to attack someone they ... Invent their own quote and idiotically attribute it to that person. Best leave you in fantasy land.
What role in society do you think that women should play a part in?
Are they allowed to interact with men in the workplace? Maybe perhaps even hold a similar role to a man in the same working environment?
SELR: I have mother, aunts, sisters, spouse, daughters, female colleagues and ... believe-it-or-not ... women I count as good friends. As unlikely as it may seem, they rather like my honest - hide nothing - approach. They know I am not 'performing to the gallery' and trying to virtue-signal my way through this short life we have. My terminology may appear (on a thread discussion among the rather woke-minded) to belong in the mid 19th Century but most people I know know the INTENT behind what I am saying. That is to say - they know I am not saying something either for effect or to hurt others. It might come across as clumsy or lacking the 'finesse' of a Guardian article (and thank God for that!) but there is no intended malice. To return to the original thread about a female referee. I applauded that this particular person has attained a high level of competence in her chosen field - refereeing. The umbrage that some have taken stems from where that refereeing should take place. Men's football or women's football. It's hardly Enoch Powell's 'rivers of blood' speech. And yet to the very distorted among us that is EXACTLY what my comment seems to represent. How utterly ridiculous.
The aforesaid women in my life all seem to play a variety of roles in society, yes. Motherhood being by far and away the most rewarding of these roles (they say). But as educated women they have professional lives also. They interact with men in the workplace. Of course.
I suspect there are many on these pages who think a family functions best when mum and dad are both out at work all day (presumably esp with the woman doing a quintessential male job of course!) and their children are left unparented, neglected and zombied out on computer games until those exhausted parents get home each evening. I don't. And I know a good number of men and women that do not subscribe to this particular configuration of family life.
It never fails to baffle me how the perceived 'victims' of all these woke discussions are always the least problematic persons to actually personally encounter in real life. Whether it be ethnic minorities, women, the same sex attracted, the disabled etc. The real problems are the (mostly) white, middle-class liberal/leftists that think they speak for the whole world when in fact they only speak for JUST other white, middle-class liberal/leftists.
And absolutely no one else.
I wish this woman referee - every happiness and success. And, if she has a husband and children - them too.
In our century if both parents are working it tends to be while the children go to school.
To anyone reading who may feel offended by those nasty woke people…
We aren’t cancelling you, we are challenging you. Meanwhile religious zealots here in the States are having books banned from children’s school libraries that focus on topics that they don’t agree with.
There’s one article above but do look it up, it’s actually happening. And it won’t take long for sections of the British public to follow suit. Meanwhile, I’ll give you three attempts at trying to name a right wing mouthpiece that has actually been ‘cancelSELR_addicks said:
"I'm definitely not controlling and sexist but I would force women to stay in the kitchen and rear children for their entire lives".
When one cannot find a single quote to attack someone they ... Invent their own quote and idiotically attribute it to that person. Best leave you in fantasy land.
What role in society do you think that women should play a part in?
Are they allowed to interact with men in the workplace? Maybe perhaps even hold a similar role to a man in the same working environment?
SELR: I have mother, aunts, sisters, spouse, daughters, female colleagues and ... believe-it-or-not ... women I count as good friends. As unlikely as it may seem, they rather like my honest - hide nothing - approach. They know I am not 'performing to the gallery' and trying to virtue-signal my way through this short life we have. My terminology may appear (on a thread discussion among the rather woke-minded) to belong in the mid 19th Century but most people I know know the INTENT behind what I am saying. That is to say - they know I am not saying something either for effect or to hurt others. It might come across as clumsy or lacking the 'finesse' of a Guardian article (and thank God for that!) but there is no intended malice. To return to the original thread about a female referee. I applauded that this particular person has attained a high level of competence in her chosen field - refereeing. The umbrage that some have taken stems from where that refereeing should take place. Men's football or women's football. It's hardly Enoch Powell's 'rivers of blood' speech. And yet to the very distorted among us that is EXACTLY what my comment seems to represent. How utterly ridiculous.
The aforesaid women in my life all seem to play a variety of roles in society, yes. Motherhood being by far and away the most rewarding of these roles (they say). But as educated women they have professional lives also. They interact with men in the workplace. Of course.
I suspect there are many on these pages who think a family functions best when mum and dad are both out at work all day (presumably esp with the woman doing a quintessential male job of course!) and their children are left unparented, neglected and zombied out on computer games until those exhausted parents get home each evening. I don't. And I know a good number of men and women that do not subscribe to this particular configuration of family life.
It never fails to baffle me how the perceived 'victims' of all these woke discussions are always the least problematic persons to actually personally encounter in real life. Whether it be ethnic minorities, women, the same sex attracted, the disabled etc. The real problems are the (mostly) white, middle-class liberal/leftists that think they speak for the whole world when in fact they only speak for JUST other white, middle-class liberal/leftists.
And absolutely no one else.
I wish this woman referee - every happiness and success. And, if she has a husband and children - them too.
I’d be interested to know who you think you speak for. The easily conned?
To anyone reading who may feel offended by those nasty woke people…
We aren’t cancelling you, we are challenging you. Meanwhile religious zealots here in the States are having books banned from children’s school libraries that focus on topics that they don’t agree with.
There’s one article above but do look it up, it’s actually happening. And it won’t take long for sections of the British public to follow suit. Meanwhile, I’ll give you three attempts at trying to name a right wing mouthpiece that has actually been ‘cancelSELR_addicks said:
"I'm definitely not controlling and sexist but I would force women to stay in the kitchen and rear children for their entire lives".
When one cannot find a single quote to attack someone they ... Invent their own quote and idiotically attribute it to that person. Best leave you in fantasy land.
What role in society do you think that women should play a part in?
Are they allowed to interact with men in the workplace? Maybe perhaps even hold a similar role to a man in the same working environment?
SELR: I have mother, aunts, sisters, spouse, daughters, female colleagues and ... believe-it-or-not ... women I count as good friends. As unlikely as it may seem, they rather like my honest - hide nothing - approach. They know I am not 'performing to the gallery' and trying to virtue-signal my way through this short life we have. My terminology may appear (on a thread discussion among the rather woke-minded) to belong in the mid 19th Century but most people I know know the INTENT behind what I am saying. That is to say - they know I am not saying something either for effect or to hurt others. It might come across as clumsy or lacking the 'finesse' of a Guardian article (and thank God for that!) but there is no intended malice. To return to the original thread about a female referee. I applauded that this particular person has attained a high level of competence in her chosen field - refereeing. The umbrage that some have taken stems from where that refereeing should take place. Men's football or women's football. It's hardly Enoch Powell's 'rivers of blood' speech. And yet to the very distorted among us that is EXACTLY what my comment seems to represent. How utterly ridiculous.
The aforesaid women in my life all seem to play a variety of roles in society, yes. Motherhood being by far and away the most rewarding of these roles (they say). But as educated women they have professional lives also. They interact with men in the workplace. Of course.
I suspect there are many on these pages who think a family functions best when mum and dad are both out at work all day (presumably esp with the woman doing a quintessential male job of course!) and their children are left unparented, neglected and zombied out on computer games until those exhausted parents get home each evening. I don't. And I know a good number of men and women that do not subscribe to this particular configuration of family life.
It never fails to baffle me how the perceived 'victims' of all these woke discussions are always the least problematic persons to actually personally encounter in real life. Whether it be ethnic minorities, women, the same sex attracted, the disabled etc. The real problems are the (mostly) white, middle-class liberal/leftists that think they speak for the whole world when in fact they only speak for JUST other white, middle-class liberal/leftists.
And absolutely no one else.
I wish this woman referee - every happiness and success. And, if she has a husband and children - them too.
In our century if both parents are working it tends to be while the children go to school.
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As my headmaster once told me, we should work hard but leave decisions to our natural superiors (presumably those at private schools?)
No matter how intelligent we may be, it is not really our role in society to have opinions about anything except footy!
I can't quite believe I'm reading this.
Let us simply accept that some people enjoy the dismantling of tradition and family values (good luck with that as a game plan!) and others do not enjoy this.
That's fine.
It is wrong however to "ban" and "cancel"others, simply because those opinions don't meet with the approval of the mob.
I would not wish to live in a society that cancelled the voice and views of those around me that didn't share my view. Not at all.
🤔
“If Jesus was to come back now and see everything that was being done in his name, he wouldn’t be able to stop throwing up.”
Are they allowed to interact with men in the workplace? Maybe perhaps even hold a similar role to a man in the same working environment?
SELR: I have mother, aunts, sisters, spouse, daughters, female colleagues and ... believe-it-or-not ... women I count as good friends. As unlikely as it may seem, they rather like my honest - hide nothing - approach. They know I am not 'performing to the gallery' and trying to virtue-signal my way through this short life we have. My terminology may appear (on a thread discussion among the rather woke-minded) to belong in the mid 19th Century but most people I know know the INTENT behind what I am saying. That is to say - they know I am not saying something either for effect or to hurt others. It might come across as clumsy or lacking the 'finesse' of a Guardian article (and thank God for that!) but there is no intended malice. To return to the original thread about a female referee. I applauded that this particular person has attained a high level of competence in her chosen field - refereeing. The umbrage that some have taken stems from where that refereeing should take place. Men's football or women's football. It's hardly Enoch Powell's 'rivers of blood' speech. And yet to the very distorted among us that is EXACTLY what my comment seems to represent. How utterly ridiculous.
The aforesaid women in my life all seem to play a variety of roles in society, yes. Motherhood being by far and away the most rewarding of these roles (they say). But as educated women they have professional lives also. They interact with men in the workplace. Of course.
I suspect there are many on these pages who think a family functions best when mum and dad are both out at work all day (presumably esp with the woman doing a quintessential male job of course!) and their children are left unparented, neglected and zombied out on computer games until those exhausted parents get home each evening. I don't. And I know a good number of men and women that do not subscribe to this particular configuration of family life.
It never fails to baffle me how the perceived 'victims' of all these woke discussions are always the least problematic persons to actually personally encounter in real life. Whether it be ethnic minorities, women, the same sex attracted, the disabled etc. The real problems are the (mostly) white, middle-class liberal/leftists that think they speak for the whole world when in fact they only speak for JUST other white, middle-class liberal/leftists.
And absolutely no one else.
I wish this woman referee - every happiness and success. And, if she has a husband and children - them too.
Beyond help.
Because... Well... Family...