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Post-match Thread: Rotherham United vs Charlton Athletic | Saturday 9th April 2022

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  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,145
    I thought we struggled for most of the first half, particularly in the early stages, when it looked as if Rotherham's forceful, direct approach and high press might overwhelm us. We were unable to generate any combination play in order to work the ball up the field or win and hold onto the ball when we went long (which was most of the time). The very poor performances of Morgan and Gilbey in that first half meant that Dobbo was lacking any real support in midfield, although I felt that he and Pearce held the team together during that difficult period.

    We were much better in the second half and, after Dobbo's excellent strike, Rotherham seemed to run out of ideas, energy and belief. We defended well, with MacGillivray, Pearce and Clare particularly impressive and the rest of the team also upped their game. We could easily have had a further goal or two if we had taken more care with the final ball but we saw the game out reasonably comfortably for an excellent three points. Happy days.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,902
    Dazzler21 said:
    MacG: 7.5 his best performance in awhile
    Clare: 7.5
    Pearce: 8
    Famewo: 7.5
    Dobson: 9 mom
    Matthews: 6.5
    Gilbey: 4 looked off the pace
    Morgan: 2 (.5 for the assist that even Dazzler could have made). JFC instead please
    B-T: 6.5 inconsistent today but his pace is needed in this side
    Stockley: 7
    Washington: 7.5 typical performance. His pace and movement scared them but his finishing let him down. Would be in the championship if he could ever learn how to finish
    Referee: 7
    Opposition: 5 expecting a lot more of them.  
    Morgan 2…..FFS how ridiculous!🤨
    Even more so "even dazzler could have made" I'm proper non league so don't assume anything.

     Even though anyone in our team could and should have been able to make that assist, nobody else was there for Taylor to release the ball to and nobody else weighted the ball perfectly in Dobson's path for him to rocket the ball into the net. I admit Morgan was mostly ineffective, he was there and didn't give up.
    He got an assist? Not sure you mentioned that before. ;-)
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,308
    edited April 2022
    Never want to hear free from desire again. Swear they played that song 5 times in a row before the game today.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,282
    edited April 2022
    Talal said:
    First time in ages I've thought we really looked like a team. No big gaps between the lines, players closing down, competing, backing each other up. So frustrating that we haven't done this more often. 
    If we're not skilful enough fair enough, failure to  put in the effort is a disgrace. 
  • On a train home now from Charing X brilliant day out, memories made with my mates and kids and a decent win to throw into the bargain

    my daughter made the video of the goal that is going a bit viral and I’m the one she’s referring to when she says ‘yes dad’ absolutely loved it and my kids will remember this day for a long time despite it only being Rotherham 

    as for the game, I thought we were totally in control throughout and never looked in trouble. Very solid performance all round 
    How do you feel now you know that Dobson is her Dad? ;) 
  • felix_31
    felix_31 Posts: 294
    Dobson or Cullen?
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,416
    We really are carrying Gilbey. Jacko loves him. 
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,852
    LouisMend said:
    Taking control of your area is hardly a new element. Surely he's been able to do this previously, or he wouldn't of made it this far in his career. He's just found some more bollocks imo. 
    As for the win, I Couldn't keep my eyes open last night, so very pleased to read the result this morning. 
    What is it with this squad? They drive ya bleeding bonkers. 
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,339
    Team needs to toughen up mentally. Easy to win a no pressure game. Let’s hopefully see what they can do if we are pushing for autos next year and need to win.

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  • How can people want to see Jason Pearce not retained next season,I have not seen this game,but have no doubt he was instrumental in the score,as he always is when the shit is hitting the fan.of course he wont play 40 games,but when we have dodgy away games and need some inspiration,he is the man.
    I think because Pearce plays one or two games like this, then has an absolute mare wrestling faster forwards to the ground.
    Pearce always looks better when he is up against a big forward where he is less exposed by a turn of pace. The one thing you always get from him is 100% effort, so I find it difficult to be too critical of him. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,947
    I hope all of you who went today enjoyed the win, but I have bad news for the rest of the season

    Wins over Burton and Doncaster - I missed them due to Covid
    Dismal defeat against Lincoln and dreary draw against Wimbledon - I was there
    Great win over Rotherham - I went to see Dartford instead

    Four games left this season, and I'll be at all of them  :#
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,714
    Off_it said:
    How can people want to see Jason Pearce not retained next season,I have not seen this game,but have no doubt he was instrumental in the score,as he always is when the shit is hitting the fan.of course he wont play 40 games,but when we have dodgy away games and need some inspiration,he is the man.
    Because he is slow & gives away silly fouls.

    You can have him as back up, but then you do that with a few other players as well (Matthews, JFC, Purrington to name but 3 )and suddenly you are back where you started.....ending the season in the bottom half of the table.


    We won and you finally surface but that's all you have to say? Pathetic.
    I was answering someone's point re Pearce. Who are you, the thread police ??
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,714
    How can people want to see Jason Pearce not retained next season,I have not seen this game,but have no doubt he was instrumental in the score,as he always is when the shit is hitting the fan.of course he wont play 40 games,but when we have dodgy away games and need some inspiration,he is the man.
    Because he is slow & gives away silly fouls.

    You can have him as back up, but then you do that with a few other players as well (Matthews, JFC, Purrington to name but 3 )and suddenly you are back where you started.....ending the season in the bottom half of the table.


    Yes he was certainly crap against quick players and Rotherham are obviously a rubbish team.in this league.  Your comments  make perfect sense.
    My comment wasn't about Pearce per se. It was about the fact posters continually bleat on about retaining this player & that player, when its those players that have got us to......15th.

    If we are genuinely wanting to have a go at promotion next season then we need a load of new players in, which you can't do when you start offering new contracts to x,y & z. 
  • paulg1947
    paulg1947 Posts: 224
    You can thank me for our best win of the season (in terms of opposition position).
    The only game this season that I didn't attend or watch on Charlton TV.
    It was nailed on.
    And me too-Since my Charlton TV, 3 month subscription ran out, and i don't want to re apply until next season, we hav'nt lost, the last 2 matches ,Oh dear,Story of my life, following Charlton
  • paulg1947
    paulg1947 Posts: 224
    You can thank me for our best win of the season (in terms of opposition position).
    The only game this season that I didn't attend or watch on Charlton TV.
    It was nailed on.
    Weren’t Sunderland top when we beat them up there?
    You can thank me for our best win of the season (in terms of opposition position).
    The only game this season that I didn't attend or watch on Charlton TV.
    It was nailed on.
    Weren’t Sunderland top when we beat them up there?
    I am sure most of us were thinking about this, but wern't holding our breath. Lightning DOES strike twice
  • MrWalker
    MrWalker Posts: 4,130
    I hope all of you who went today enjoyed the win, but I have bad news for the rest of the season

    Wins over Burton and Doncaster - I missed them due to Covid
    Dismal defeat against Lincoln and dreary draw against Wimbledon - I was there
    Great win over Rotherham - I went to see Dartford instead

    Four games left this season, and I'll be at all of them  :#
    You are me. 
    Bizarre
  • paulg1947
    paulg1947 Posts: 224
    Talal said:
    LoOkOuT said:
    Should have mentioned MacGillivray, who commanded his area well and came out to catch more than a few dangerous balls in. He’s a very good keeper when he’s not too rooted to his line.
    I reckon he reads Charlton Life. and realised he needed to change his game.

    Ever since the criticism of him for his unwillingness to come for crosses reached a crescendo, he's actually started to come for crosses in the last 3 or 4 games. And today showed he's perfectly capable of coming and taking a cross.

    I've been one of his biggest critics this season. But if he carries on playing like he has done today I will happily change my mind completely.
    As much as I'd like to think he'd read this site, I think it's more likely to do with Jackson being asked in an interview (I think by Louis Mendez) aboutr MacGillivray commanding his area. Seems to have come for more crosses since then. 
    I think he may have lost a bit of confidence when he dropped the ball in one of our 6 defeats, which led to a goal. It could have been Oxford or perhaps Sheff Wednesday or? ,not sure  He claimed he was fouled, and the ref didn't blow.(what's new). I don't think Mac, a fairly experienced G K, has all of a sudden, seen the virtues of gathering crosses etc. It would be in the G K coaching manual, surely? Perhaps J J and others told him to put that blunder behind him, and not read too much into the analysis experts on CL
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,556
    People giving Morgan+1 for an assist in the player marks thread is so silly. I quite like him but it was a 10 yard pass, if Dobson put it into row z you wouldn't give him an extra 1. 
  • paulg1947
    paulg1947 Posts: 224

    7.7% of the goals that Rotherham have conceded in League One this season have been scored by Charlton Athletic #cafc

    — Louis Mendez (@LouisMend) April 9, 2022

    3.8% of the goals conceded by Rotherham in League One this season have been scored by George Dobson #cafc

    — Louis Mendez (@LouisMend) April 9, 2022
    God don't you just hate mathematicians

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  • paulg1947
    paulg1947 Posts: 224
    I hope all of you who went today enjoyed the win, but I have bad news for the rest of the season

    Wins over Burton and Doncaster - I missed them due to Covid
    Dismal defeat against Lincoln and dreary draw against Wimbledon - I was there
    Great win over Rotherham - I went to see Dartford instead

    Four games left this season, and I'll be at all of them  :#
    Up the Darts. I remember seein some great games at Watling Street over 60 years ago And when we drew Bristol City in the  F A cup, 2 football specials left Dartford for Bristol. Dartford must have been pretty quiet that afternoon .I think the Darts lost 1-6  Happy days
  • paulg1947
    paulg1947 Posts: 224
    On a train home now from Charing X brilliant day out, memories made with my mates and kids and a decent win to throw into the bargain

    my daughter made the video of the goal that is going a bit viral and I’m the one she’s referring to when she says ‘yes dad’ absolutely loved it and my kids will remember this day for a long time despite it only being Rotherham 

    as for the game, I thought we were totally in control throughout and never looked in trouble. Very solid performance all round 
    Cherish the 'golden years' of family life, they come to life in such situations. I suppose over the years i must have said 'yes dad' at Charlton games. But be prepared for the inevitable tears that seem to come, more prevalently. But hey, We are the Charlton family.-Smiles
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,822
    aliwibble said:
    Popping back online briefly to catch up on the result, saw this great clip of the view of the goal from the away end:
    Loving the "Yes, Dad!" from the kid on the audio.
     Don’t you just hate people who can’t keep the camera steady in a moment of extreme excitement. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,768
    edited April 2022
    I think with Pearce, he can do the job in two or three game spells nowadays. This is a definite asset as you often need somebody who can come in and do that job. If he is a player coach, I am sure that does not count towards the cap so absolutely we should keep him on if that is the case.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,432
    I think with Pearce, he can do the job in two or three game spells nowadays. This is a definite asset as you often need somebody who can come in and do that job. If he is a player coach, I am sure that does not count towards the cap so absolutely we should keep him on if that is the case.
    I think you’re thinking of Wayne Rooney’s salary and financial fair play? I don’t think being a player/coach can be used as a workaround for the squad cap unfortunately.
  • thickandthin63
    thickandthin63 Posts: 2,964
    How can people want to see Jason Pearce not retained next season,I have not seen this game,but have no doubt he was instrumental in the score,as he always is when the shit is hitting the fan.of course he wont play 40 games,but when we have dodgy away games and need some inspiration,he is the man.
    I think because Pearce plays one or two games like this, then has an absolute mare wrestling faster forwards to the ground.
    It is more than one or two,yes he does like a bit of WWF,but does it outside the box.Many times this season , I have seen us concede,and quietly said to myself,Pearcey would not have allowed that.Michael Smith is one of the best strikers in this division,Pearce has marked him twice,and Smith has not had a sniff.Is 35 too old,well ,Thiago at Chelsea 37,Richard Wood 36,Pepe,Portugal 39,Ramos PSG 36,You dont see these guys have many bad games.
  • Jonniesta
    Jonniesta Posts: 1,160
    How can people want to see Jason Pearce not retained next season,I have not seen this game,but have no doubt he was instrumental in the score,as he always is when the shit is hitting the fan.of course he wont play 40 games,but when we have dodgy away games and need some inspiration,he is the man.
    Because he is slow & gives away silly fouls.

    You can have him as back up, but then you do that with a few other players as well (Matthews, JFC, Purrington to name but 3 )and suddenly you are back where you started.....ending the season in the bottom half of the table.


    Yes he was certainly crap against quick players and Rotherham are obviously a rubbish team.in this league.  Your comments  make perfect sense.
    My comment wasn't about Pearce per se. It was about the fact posters continually bleat on about retaining this player & that player, when its those players that have got us to......15th.

    If we are genuinely wanting to have a go at promotion next season then we need a load of new players in, which you can't do when you start offering new contracts to x,y & z. 
    For what it's worth, Golfie, I pretty much agree with you. You can make a case for quite a few of them based on individual performances over the season, like Pearce yesterday, Matthews Tuesday, but over the course of it they haven't been good enough. I would have to except JFC from that, he was plenty good enough last season, and Conor Washington, who is clearly a good enough back up. 
    Matthews, Pearce, Purrington, Morgan, DJ, Souare (OK, no one is planning a new contract there), Davison... none of them make me think 'win' when I see them line up. Now Purrington and Pearce were heavily involved in our best run of the season, so maybe that's harsh. But overall, we need a clear-out. 
    Critically, though, the loan players are the major difference with previous seasons. They've simply not added enough, any of them. Got to get that right next season. 

  • 1968CAFC
    1968CAFC Posts: 578
    Great away win, super Goal and clean sheet.
    always seem to play better against better teams.
    unfortunately we are inconsistent and lack too much confidence in front of goal.
    we also need another good striker.
    good three points today.👍👍👍👍
  • bazjonster
    bazjonster Posts: 2,875
    On a train home now from Charing X brilliant day out, memories made with my mates and kids and a decent win to throw into the bargain

    my daughter made the video of the goal that is going a bit viral and I’m the one she’s referring to when she says ‘yes dad’ absolutely loved it and my kids will remember this day for a long time despite it only being Rotherham 

    as for the game, I thought we were totally in control throughout and never looked in trouble. Very solid performance all round 
    Just watched it on twitter mate. Bloody brilliant.