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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    I feel sorry for the 1st non connected player to Swindon we sign,……. We only signed him cos he’s not Swindon!! 😂
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,668
    Would like to see us bring in a proper all-action box to box midfielder type.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    Would like to see us bring in a proper all-action box to box midfielder type.
    I’ve heard of this guy called Alex Gilbey who could perform just that role ;)
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,966
    The only downside to Louis Reed is the fact he shares the same Agent as Adam Matthews - So we can probably expect him here by October
    And the October after that.
    And the October after that.
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    Would like to see us bring in a proper all-action box to box midfielder type.
    And a really greedy fu%<€r that scores lots of goals😂😂
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,359
    edited June 2022
    RC_CAFC said:
    The thing is. Reed would be the only player we’ve signed off of them, and it makes total sense to pick the best players from the previous managers club who know what he wants and how he wants to play.
    Agree with you, but it is funny how we've bigged up our data-driven scouting, talked about our list of 357 transfer targets, and then just raided Swindon.
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,758
    Chunes said:
    RC_CAFC said:
    The thing is. Reed would be the only player we’ve signed off of them, and it makes total sense to pick the best players from the previous managers club who know what he wants and how he wants to play.
    Agree with you, but it is funny how we've bigged up our data-driven scouting, talked about our list of 357 transfer targets, and then just raided Swindon.
    Someone mentioned earlier and I think there is probably merit to it in that all these players WERE on our list originally and then they thought, let’s get the bloke that has put them there!

    I also think that we’ve got the freebies out of the way quickly as there is less haggling and it just happens that two of them were from Swindon. They’ll need less time to be convinced on the project because they know what Garner is all about.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,004
    Regardless of how they were chosen, I'm quite liking the feeling that there is an actual plan in place this time around. Sure we can argue about th stepping up from L2 issue but it feels to me like we've gone out to sign players the manager actually wants and will fit into a style together instead of Adkins heading into a season not even knowing what his preferred formation is let alone best team.

    Certainly I think we need some proven quality in to complement the "potential" from L2 but that will take more money and longer negotiations so I fully expect there to be a few more proven names in, just later on in the window.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,487
    Been a busy day just catching up on all the excitement, did anyone other than the mighty Swordfish predict a signing today?
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    cfgs said:
    Been a busy day just catching up on all the excitement, did anyone other than the mighty Swordfish predict a signing today?
    Definitely something fishy going on there😜

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  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    Would like to see us bring in a proper all-action box to box midfielder type.
    Yeah wonder if we'll be in for Camara now we can flash the cash with the Pope money.  Also wonder how much Plymouth want for him.
  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,587
    chev said:
    Surprisingly, Nixon has been mostly right recently. That is some deal if true. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,388
    chev said:
    Anyone willing to pay for access to Nixon’s Patreon to verify that?
  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,587
    edited June 2022
    Scoham said:
    chev said:
    Anyone willing to pay for access to Nixon’s Patreon to verify that?
    From what I can tell it's not on there (haven't subscribed) I'd expect the fee to be more than that tbh. More like 3-400 + Davison. Edit: just looked at that insider account, seems to be a wind up.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    Reed would be great. 
    Now they’ve sorted the defensive side with really promising out of contract players, I wonder if the cheque book will be used to bring in a quality toward or two? Cole Stockton and another? 
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,485
    I hear Valley Express will be initially running a coach (possibly two) from Swindon to all home games.
    More are planned if a bigger demand is met. 🫣
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,553
    Nixon has come out on Twitter saying the story is “shite”. 

    Not to say we aren’t interested. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Chunes said:
    RC_CAFC said:
    The thing is. Reed would be the only player we’ve signed off of them, and it makes total sense to pick the best players from the previous managers club who know what he wants and how he wants to play.
    Agree with you, but it is funny how we've bigged up our data-driven scouting, talked about our list of 357 transfer targets, and then just raided Swindon.
    If you believe, and it is a big if, how much Thomas is driven by attacking, possession, high pressed football and data, you would highlight most of last seasons Swindon team somewhere on your depth charts of potential signings.  Wouldn't you?

    It wouldn't take a genius to work that out, join the dots, and just appoint the person that was, partly, responsible for it. Hope that he could do it again?

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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,359
    edited June 2022
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Chunes said:
    RC_CAFC said:
    The thing is. Reed would be the only player we’ve signed off of them, and it makes total sense to pick the best players from the previous managers club who know what he wants and how he wants to play.
    Agree with you, but it is funny how we've bigged up our data-driven scouting, talked about our list of 357 transfer targets, and then just raided Swindon.
    If you believe, and it is a big if, how much Thomas is driven by attacking, possession, high pressed football and data, you would highlight most of last seasons Swindon team somewhere on your depth charts of potential signings.  Wouldn't you?

    It wouldn't take a genius to work that out, join the dots, and just appoint the person that was, partly, responsible for it. Hope that he could do it again?
    I think you've taken my post too seriously! Got no problem with the signings or the approach, just think it's funny. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,891
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Chunes said:
    RC_CAFC said:
    The thing is. Reed would be the only player we’ve signed off of them, and it makes total sense to pick the best players from the previous managers club who know what he wants and how he wants to play.
    Agree with you, but it is funny how we've bigged up our data-driven scouting, talked about our list of 357 transfer targets, and then just raided Swindon.
    If you believe, and it is a big if, how much Thomas is driven by attacking, possession, high pressed football and data, you would highlight most of last seasons Swindon team somewhere on your depth charts of potential signings.  Wouldn't you?

    It wouldn't take a genius to work that out, join the dots, and just appoint the person that was, partly, responsible for it. Hope that he could do it again?
    To an extent, as after all they were playing in a division below us, therefore they are "in general" going to be more L2 standard than L1 standard, let alone L1 promotion team standard. There's a reason why players are at a certain level.

    Of course there will be hidden gems amongst the L2 teams, and players on the up.
  • Spend the Pope and Burstow dosh on 2-3 of Stockton, Reed, Coventry, Camara and Brannaghan please.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,388
    Spend the Pope and Burstow dosh on 2-3 of Stockton, Reed, Coventry, Camara and Brannaghan please.
    As well as Stockton we could do with adding a couple of midfielders or wingers with goals in them.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,359
    edited June 2022
    Brannagan is surely going to the Championship, he's different gravy
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Chunes said:
    RC_CAFC said:
    The thing is. Reed would be the only player we’ve signed off of them, and it makes total sense to pick the best players from the previous managers club who know what he wants and how he wants to play.
    Agree with you, but it is funny how we've bigged up our data-driven scouting, talked about our list of 357 transfer targets, and then just raided Swindon.
    If you believe, and it is a big if, how much Thomas is driven by attacking, possession, high pressed football and data, you would highlight most of last seasons Swindon team somewhere on your depth charts of potential signings.  Wouldn't you?

    It wouldn't take a genius to work that out, join the dots, and just appoint the person that was, partly, responsible for it. Hope that he could do it again?
    To an extent, as after all they were playing in a division below us, therefore they are "in general" going to be more L2 standard than L1 standard, let alone L1 promotion team standard. There's a reason why players are at a certain level.

    Of course there will be hidden gems amongst the L2 teams, and players on the up.
    Agreed generally, however. Wollacott is a bit of a risk as he is inexperienced and it’s just one decent season. Egbo is too but had the potential, not like he’s a 30 year old who has hung round league 2 for a decade. Reed played in League 1 young, had to step down to play more regularly but shouldn’t have hit his prime yet. McKirdy would be a risk but Payne has only had one season in the League 2 (since he was a young 20 year old). Twice previously he’s scored a decent amount of goals in League 1. 

    I don’t want all of Swindon’s team but I can easily see a case for Reed, Payne and McKirdy. Let’s not forget it wasn’t their attacking play that cost them promotion. They were probably only a defender away from promotion and I also reckon they’d have gone up had they kept Simpson all season. We can get promoted with 4/5 of their players, they’re just unlikely to be as good for us as they were last season. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,891
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Chunes said:
    RC_CAFC said:
    The thing is. Reed would be the only player we’ve signed off of them, and it makes total sense to pick the best players from the previous managers club who know what he wants and how he wants to play.
    Agree with you, but it is funny how we've bigged up our data-driven scouting, talked about our list of 357 transfer targets, and then just raided Swindon.
    If you believe, and it is a big if, how much Thomas is driven by attacking, possession, high pressed football and data, you would highlight most of last seasons Swindon team somewhere on your depth charts of potential signings.  Wouldn't you?

    It wouldn't take a genius to work that out, join the dots, and just appoint the person that was, partly, responsible for it. Hope that he could do it again?
    To an extent, as after all they were playing in a division below us, therefore they are "in general" going to be more L2 standard than L1 standard, let alone L1 promotion team standard. There's a reason why players are at a certain level.

    Of course there will be hidden gems amongst the L2 teams, and players on the up.
    Agreed generally, however. Wollacott is a bit of a risk as he is inexperienced and it’s just one decent season. Egbo is too but had the potential, not like he’s a 30 year old who has hung round league 2 for a decade. Reed played in League 1 young, had to step down to play more regularly but shouldn’t have hit his prime yet. McKirdy would be a risk but Payne has only had one season in the League 2 (since he was a young 20 year old). Twice previously he’s scored a decent amount of goals in League 1. 

    I don’t want all of Swindon’s team but I can easily see a case for Reed, Payne and McKirdy. Let’s not forget it wasn’t their attacking play that cost them promotion. They were probably only a defender away from promotion and I also reckon they’d have gone up had they kept Simpson all season. We can get promoted with 4/5 of their players, they’re just unlikely to be as good for us as they were last season. 
    A good L2 side (e.g. Cheltenham) can stabilise in L1 next season with a solid mid table finish. Which is where we finished ourselves

    My concern is whether the better Swindon players - not including Egbo who was only there as a short term signing - are anything more than solid L1 players, rather than the ones needed to be batting it out for automatic promotion.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,648
    Just had this from my Swindon supporting mate 😂😭
    Then tell him we haven't stolen ANY of their players. Both were out of contract. They no more played for Swindon than they did Liverpool. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Chunes said:
    RC_CAFC said:
    The thing is. Reed would be the only player we’ve signed off of them, and it makes total sense to pick the best players from the previous managers club who know what he wants and how he wants to play.
    Agree with you, but it is funny how we've bigged up our data-driven scouting, talked about our list of 357 transfer targets, and then just raided Swindon.
    If you believe, and it is a big if, how much Thomas is driven by attacking, possession, high pressed football and data, you would highlight most of last seasons Swindon team somewhere on your depth charts of potential signings.  Wouldn't you?

    It wouldn't take a genius to work that out, join the dots, and just appoint the person that was, partly, responsible for it. Hope that he could do it again?
    To an extent, as after all they were playing in a division below us, therefore they are "in general" going to be more L2 standard than L1 standard, let alone L1 promotion team standard. There's a reason why players are at a certain level.

    Of course there will be hidden gems amongst the L2 teams, and players on the up.
    Agreed generally, however. Wollacott is a bit of a risk as he is inexperienced and it’s just one decent season. Egbo is too but had the potential, not like he’s a 30 year old who has hung round league 2 for a decade. Reed played in League 1 young, had to step down to play more regularly but shouldn’t have hit his prime yet. McKirdy would be a risk but Payne has only had one season in the League 2 (since he was a young 20 year old). Twice previously he’s scored a decent amount of goals in League 1. 

    I don’t want all of Swindon’s team but I can easily see a case for Reed, Payne and McKirdy. Let’s not forget it wasn’t their attacking play that cost them promotion. They were probably only a defender away from promotion and I also reckon they’d have gone up had they kept Simpson all season. We can get promoted with 4/5 of their players, they’re just unlikely to be as good for us as they were last season. 
    A good L2 side (e.g. Cheltenham) can stabilise in L1 next season with a solid mid table finish. Which is where we finished ourselves

    My concern is whether the better Swindon players - not including Egbo who was only there as a short term signing - are anything more than solid L1 players, rather than the ones needed to be batting it out for automatic promotion.
    No I totally agree, they're all a risk, could go one way or the other. Wollacott clearly plays the way Garner wants but a keeper is there to stop us conceding goals too. If we've got AMB or Mac as competition, on paper we've got 2 decent keepers. I'd like another RB if Egbo doesn't work out. Payne I'd sign but I see him exactly the same as Fraser. Left-footed, gets on the ball and can chip in with goals. Perfect signing for competition, not sure they can work in the same team. Reed as competition for Dobson too makes sense. I wouldn't want to go into the season with McKirdy, DJ, Kirk and CBT as our 4 wingers, but if we could offload DJ/Kirk and sign another main one then that suddenly looks quite exciting.