Croydon born, now 34 but was a regular for Forest last season.
Doesn't fit the young player with sell on potential model but if you want some experience he could be the man.
No idea if he can play Garnerball but he can score goals.
Almost all the signings we have made haven't fitted that, not sure why people think it's a criteria tbh.
Lewis Grabban can probably play about 60 minutes max these days as he admitted last season when he said he has no problem coming off the bench.
Jayden Stockley is fitting into the Central striker's role well it's just he's not scoring but his headers have led to goals as the keepers have parried them to CBT and Sakyi I still believe Jayden is better with a player close by and Ben Garner may have to compromise as we have some big players and not to utilise Stockley, Leaburn and Inniss with quality high balls into the box would seem strange. Inniss from set pieces; not playing as a striker !
Croydon born, now 34 but was a regular for Forest last season.
Doesn't fit the young player with sell on potential model but if you want some experience he could be the man.
No idea if he can play Garnerball but he can score goals.
Last played for Forest in the Championship, local lad at the end of his career who would maybe want to move back towards family. Reminds me of someone... No thanks.
Controversial opinion time but I don’t even think the striker we need has to be that good. We just need *someone* who can help us avoid a situation like last season where we went to Wigan with Burstow and Elliot Lee up front, for example.
Obviously the player coming in would need chip in with a few goals when they play over the course of the season but Plan A is obviously to move forward with club captain Stockley as often as possible.
As long as we have a senior body that is available to play when called upon and does a half decent job at dropping into midfield and linking the play, we can still score goals from the likes of CBT, JRS, Kirk, Fraser and Payne.
And then when Stockley is back after a short absence, they’ll drop back to the bench.
For me, it’s more important to get a player that fits the style and can replace Jayden’s link up without disruption more so than finding a poacher who can score a goal but not contribute anything else.
It’s become clear over the last few weeks that that poaching kind of forward won’t fit the Garner style.
I don't think that this is controversial. As you said, stockley is clearly first choice with aneke being the impact sub (obviously fitness permitting). The emergence of leaburn means we could be looking for a 4th choice, a Parker type signing rather than someone being brought in to challenge stockley.
This is the short sighted view that people at the club seem to hold. Signing somebody to challenge Stockley is exactly what we should have been doing. If we were serious about going for promotion then we should have been aiming high & bringing in a decent (at this level) striker. I don't get this view of why would a decent striker come to the club to play second fiddle to stockley. Why did Payne sign for us when he knew that we were overloaded with midfielders ? Probably because he has confidence in his ability & believes he can force himself into the team. It would be the same with a decent striker unless we really are going with the view that Stockley can't ever be dropped because he's the captain.
Controversial opinion time but I don’t even think the striker we need has to be that good. We just need *someone* who can help us avoid a situation like last season where we went to Wigan with Burstow and Elliot Lee up front, for example.
Obviously the player coming in would need chip in with a few goals when they play over the course of the season but Plan A is obviously to move forward with club captain Stockley as often as possible.
As long as we have a senior body that is available to play when called upon and does a half decent job at dropping into midfield and linking the play, we can still score goals from the likes of CBT, JRS, Kirk, Fraser and Payne.
And then when Stockley is back after a short absence, they’ll drop back to the bench.
For me, it’s more important to get a player that fits the style and can replace Jayden’s link up without disruption more so than finding a poacher who can score a goal but not contribute anything else.
It’s become clear over the last few weeks that that poaching kind of forward won’t fit the Garner style.
I don't think that this is controversial. As you said, stockley is clearly first choice with aneke being the impact sub (obviously fitness permitting). The emergence of leaburn means we could be looking for a 4th choice, a Parker type signing rather than someone being brought in to challenge stockley.
This is the short sighted view that people at the club seem to hold. Signing somebody to challenge Stockley is exactly what we should have been doing. If we were serious about going for promotion then we should have been aiming high & bringing in a decent (at this level) striker. I don't get this view of why would a decent striker come to the club to play second fiddle to stockley. Why did Payne sign for us when he knew that we were overloaded with midfielders ? Probably because he has confidence in his ability & believes he can force himself into the team. It would be the same with a decent striker unless we really are going with the view that Stockley can't ever be dropped because he's the captain.
I've said it before. With a choice of 16 players now per game of course any new striker would still play every week.... look at young Leaburn.... so it's total bollocks that a striker wouldn't join to be second fiddle.... there's a great opportunity to oust Stockley as he doesn't fit the way we are playing.
If the hierarchy think we don't need a back up striker then really it just proves their naivety at running a club with aims to get promoted.
Controversial opinion time but I don’t even think the striker we need has to be that good. We just need *someone* who can help us avoid a situation like last season where we went to Wigan with Burstow and Elliot Lee up front, for example.
Obviously the player coming in would need chip in with a few goals when they play over the course of the season but Plan A is obviously to move forward with club captain Stockley as often as possible.
As long as we have a senior body that is available to play when called upon and does a half decent job at dropping into midfield and linking the play, we can still score goals from the likes of CBT, JRS, Kirk, Fraser and Payne.
And then when Stockley is back after a short absence, they’ll drop back to the bench.
For me, it’s more important to get a player that fits the style and can replace Jayden’s link up without disruption more so than finding a poacher who can score a goal but not contribute anything else.
It’s become clear over the last few weeks that that poaching kind of forward won’t fit the Garner style.
I don't think that this is controversial. As you said, stockley is clearly first choice with aneke being the impact sub (obviously fitness permitting). The emergence of leaburn means we could be looking for a 4th choice, a Parker type signing rather than someone being brought in to challenge stockley.
This is the short sighted view that people at the club seem to hold. Signing somebody to challenge Stockley is exactly what we should have been doing. If we were serious about going for promotion then we should have been aiming high & bringing in a decent (at this level) striker. I don't get this view of why would a decent striker come to the club to play second fiddle to stockley. Why did Payne sign for us when he knew that we were overloaded with midfielders ? Probably because he has confidence in his ability & believes he can force himself into the team. It would be the same with a decent striker unless we really are going with the view that Stockley can't ever be dropped because he's the captain.
I've said it before. With a choice of 16 players now per game of course any new striker would still play every week.... look at young Leaburn.... so it's total bollocks that a striker wouldn't join to be second fiddle.... there's a great opportunity to oust Stockley as he doesn't fit the way we are playing.
If the hierarchy think we don't need a back up striker then really it just proves their naivety at running a club with aims to get promoted.
Controversial opinion time but I don’t even think the striker we need has to be that good. We just need *someone* who can help us avoid a situation like last season where we went to Wigan with Burstow and Elliot Lee up front, for example.
Obviously the player coming in would need chip in with a few goals when they play over the course of the season but Plan A is obviously to move forward with club captain Stockley as often as possible.
As long as we have a senior body that is available to play when called upon and does a half decent job at dropping into midfield and linking the play, we can still score goals from the likes of CBT, JRS, Kirk, Fraser and Payne.
And then when Stockley is back after a short absence, they’ll drop back to the bench.
For me, it’s more important to get a player that fits the style and can replace Jayden’s link up without disruption more so than finding a poacher who can score a goal but not contribute anything else.
It’s become clear over the last few weeks that that poaching kind of forward won’t fit the Garner style.
I don't think that this is controversial. As you said, stockley is clearly first choice with aneke being the impact sub (obviously fitness permitting). The emergence of leaburn means we could be looking for a 4th choice, a Parker type signing rather than someone being brought in to challenge stockley.
This is the short sighted view that people at the club seem to hold. Signing somebody to challenge Stockley is exactly what we should have been doing. If we were serious about going for promotion then we should have been aiming high & bringing in a decent (at this level) striker. I don't get this view of why would a decent striker come to the club to play second fiddle to stockley. Why did Payne sign for us when he knew that we were overloaded with midfielders ? Probably because he has confidence in his ability & believes he can force himself into the team. It would be the same with a decent striker unless we really are going with the view that Stockley can't ever be dropped because he's the captain.
I've said it before. With a choice of 16 players now per game of course any new striker would still play every week.... look at young Leaburn.... so it's total bollocks that a striker wouldn't join to be second fiddle.... there's a great opportunity to oust Stockley as he doesn't fit the way we are playing.
If the hierarchy think we don't need a back up striker then really it just proves their naivety at running a club with aims to get promoted.
I know it's total bollocks & you know it's total bollocks but there's been plenty of posts with alternative views.
We have not long got rid of the last past it donkey from Forest. I don’t want another, particularly if he is a known disruptive personality. I feel he would bring very little.
He hasn't done it for us, but we are letting a good player go. Better than Morgan, better than Kirk, better than McGrandles, better than Jaiyesimi.
Mistake.
You admit he hasn’t done it for us for two years, why give him another chance when we have so many CMs? Perhaps he’s an average player who occasionally looks good? It would explain why at 27 he’s moving to a small L1 club.
Kirk and DJ play in other positions so the comparison is irrelevant.
None of us have seen enough of McGrandles in a Charlton shirt to judge him.
Fraser has already equalled his 2 league goals last season and his place isn’t completely secure with Payne pushing for a start.
He’s not suited to Dobson or Morgan’s role in Garner’s system so I struggle to see where he’ll get the regular game time he’s after.
Freeing up the budget of his wages should help us strengthen in positions where that’s a priority.
Croydon born, now 34 but was a regular for Forest last season.
Doesn't fit the young player with sell on potential model but if you want some experience he could be the man.
No idea if he can play Garnerball but he can score goals.
Hope not.. he downed tools at Sunderland soon as the club struggled and refused to play.
Was quite funny to watch on Netflix though. Think he got subbed off in one game and said nah I’m not having that. Then scored against them for Villa later in the season
I don’t think any of us really know exactly what’s going on behind the scenes. I still think we’ll get JFC & Gilbey off the books in time to free up the funding for a striker (and I think a CB is in the pipeline already).
But if we don’t, and we miss the playoffs for want of a goal or two here and there, then it really will be meltdown time.
He hasn't done it for us, but we are letting a good player go. Better than Morgan, better than Kirk, better than McGrandles, better than Jaiyesimi.
Mistake.
I recognise you as the one who constantly attacks DJ whenever the opportunity arises. Also being the guy who reckons it's a mistake to get rid of a player who has been diappointing for two years because he's better than a player you haven't seen 90 minutes of? Bold choice man, save some shit takes for the rest of us.
as much as as much as I have wanted it to work with a Gilbey it just hasn’t clicked. Too often he doesn’t affect the game in any way and it is probably time to part ways now. He needs to kickstart his career elsewhere.
as much as as much as I have wanted it to work with a Gilbey it just hasn’t clicked. Too often he doesn’t affect the game in any way and it is probably time to part ways now. He needs to kickstart his career elsewhere.
Fully agree. In flashes, he has had some really good games but his inconsistency lets him down hugely and becomes a spare part in most games.
Seems like a decent chap so only wish him the best if/when he does go.
Comments
Garner will know him from Palace although I see West Brom are strongly linked with him.
A *blatant attempt for LOL's and Leuth cleans up 🤦🏻♂️
* Edited: Blatant not balanced !
Lewis Grabban can probably play about 60 minutes max these days as he admitted last season when he said he has no problem coming off the bench.
Jayden Stockley is fitting into the Central striker's role well it's just he's not scoring but his headers have led to goals as the keepers have parried them to CBT and Sakyi I still believe Jayden is better with a player close by and Ben Garner may have to compromise as we have some big players and not to utilise Stockley, Leaburn and Inniss with quality high balls into the box would seem strange.
Inniss from set pieces; not playing as a striker !
Letting Gilbey go is a mistake.
I'll take the hit if I prove to be wrong.
He hasn't done it for us, but we are letting a good player go. Better than Morgan, better than Kirk, better than McGrandles, better than Jaiyesimi.
Mistake.
Kirk and DJ play in other positions so the comparison is irrelevant.
None of us have seen enough of McGrandles in a Charlton shirt to judge him.
Fraser has already equalled his 2 league goals last season and his place isn’t completely secure with Payne pushing for a start.
He’s not suited to Dobson or Morgan’s role in Garner’s system so I struggle to see where he’ll get the regular game time he’s after.
Freeing up the budget of his wages should help us strengthen in positions where that’s a priority.
Seems like a decent chap so only wish him the best if/when he does go.
How anyone can pass judgement of McGrandles is beyond me. He's played like 60mins of football...
Despite his performances will always have a section of the fan base who rate him highly.
Well ... it's not really your opinion, is it? It's just another bandwagon that you have jumped on.
Try to be a bit quicker next time.