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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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Swisdom said:as much as as much as I have wanted it to work with a Gilbey it just hasn’t clicked. Too often he doesn’t affect the game in any way and it is probably time to part ways now. He needs to kickstart his career elsewhere.
I similar to you Swisdom, thought the Ipswich home game in front of a big crowd when he was superb, was going to be the turning point but it wasn't unfortunately and when he did the two identical yellow cards in the Lincoln game when he didn't even need to foul made even me go against him and I had been fighting his cause since he joined.
He could still do well for a League 1 or 2 club but he needs a new club to kick start his career and find some consistency.
He did have good games for Cafc but he lost his way and I wondered if there was issues off the pitch as his concentration did waver as he wandered lonely as a cloud ?1 -
Watching all our League game highlights, you'll see that Fraser seems to be the main man designated to centrally support Stockley.soapboxsam said:Cafc43v3r said:
Almost all the signings we have made haven't fitted that, not sure why people think it's a criteria tbh.Henry Irving said:Lewis Grabben is an interesting one.
Croydon born, now 34 but was a regular for Forest last season.
Doesn't fit the young player with sell on potential model but if you want some experience he could be the man.
No idea if he can play Garnerball but he can score goals.
Lewis Grabban can probably play about 60 minutes max these days as he admitted last season when he said he has no problem coming off the bench.
Jayden Stockley is fitting into the Central striker's role well it's just he's not scoring but his headers have led to goals as the keepers have parried them to CBT and Sakyi I still believe Jayden is better with a player close by and Ben Garner may have to compromise as we have some big players and not to utilise Stockley, Leaburn and Inniss with quality high balls into the box would seem strange.
Inniss from set pieces; not playing as a striker !
We see our far side winger is required to get in the box at the far post from wide; and Morgan around the 'D'.
Fraser is the midfielder who moves off the ball to support Stockley in the box centrally.
Whether Stockley is scoring goals or not, he occupies and challenges the oppo CBs and keeper, while our support players ghost in more or less unmarked.
Anyway, that seems to be the plan. We've already scored several goals this way.
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RC_CAFC said:Fwiw, I’d get him, CBT and Dobson on longer contracts immediately if we can.
The same 3 players I picked out last season that needed to be on contracts that were decent. Clare had to be the RB for me. I try to predict someone's best position and Clare was something that Matthews and Purrington wasn't? He wasn't slow so Sean can rescue his self when he makes a mistake like he did Saturday even though he had to take a booking.
Clare put over a great cross last season at the valley down the right flank for an assist.
He has bags of confidence after his cracking goal against Plymouth and now has no problem in the attacking RB position unlike at Oxford when Robinson told him to Calm down, Calm down, soft lad when moving Sean from midfield to RB.0 -
On contracts we have 1 year options we can extend for Dobson, CBT and AMB. Their contracts all expire next summer.
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/view/627a6ccb2ae05/retained-list-club-trigger-one-year-extension-on-forster-caskey-contract
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Oggy Red said:
Watching all our League game highlights, you'll see that Fraser seems to be the main man designated to centrally support Stockley.soapboxsam said:Cafc43v3r said:
Almost all the signings we have made haven't fitted that, not sure why people think it's a criteria tbh.Henry Irving said:Lewis Grabben is an interesting one.
Croydon born, now 34 but was a regular for Forest last season.
Doesn't fit the young player with sell on potential model but if you want some experience he could be the man.
No idea if he can play Garnerball but he can score goals.
Lewis Grabban can probably play about 60 minutes max these days as he admitted last season when he said he has no problem coming off the bench.
Jayden Stockley is fitting into the Central striker's role well it's just he's not scoring but his headers have led to goals as the keepers have parried them to CBT and Sakyi I still believe Jayden is better with a player close by and Ben Garner may have to compromise as we have some big players and not to utilise Stockley, Leaburn and Inniss with quality high balls into the box would seem strange.
Inniss from set pieces; not playing as a striker !
We see our far side winger is required to get in the box at the far post from wide; and Morgan around the 'D'.
Fraser is the midfielder who moves off the ball to support Stockley in the box centrally.
Whether Stockley is scoring goals or not, he occupies and challenges the oppo CBs and keeper, while our support players ghost in more or less unmarked.
Anyway, that seems to be the plan. We've already scored several goals this way.
That is definitely the plan for playing 4-3-3 with the attacking midfielder supporting as well as the forward from the other flank getting into the box to get nearer to Stockley so he isn't isolated. Goals from Corey Blackett-Taylor and Rak Sakyi from efforts on goal from Jayden have shown how Garner is trying to get this through to the players. The Plymouth game is the only match it has worked for 90+ minutes and that was against 10 men so more space available.
Lots of pressure on Stockley, as he is leading the line well and is fitting in to the system but he has to score goals as well and not quite going in at the moment.
The amount of games, minutes we get out of Aneke will make or break our season even if they are 30 minute cameos including added time as I can't see a striker on the wage available coming into the club in this window.
Maybe in Jan, Thomas may be able to take a gamble with a six month loan if we are top 8 to push us on with a goal scoring forward that will blend in with the Managers idea of play ?
We live in hope.
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I'd forgotten that at the time we were still negotiating with Purrington, so it wasn't as if the club had decided from the start that he was surplusScoham said:On contracts we have 1 year options we can extend for Dobson, CBT and AMB. Their contracts all expire next summer.
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/view/627a6ccb2ae05/retained-list-club-trigger-one-year-extension-on-forster-caskey-contract0 -
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Do you think he'll get into the 18 at a Championship club? I would assume any Champ club that gets him would look to get him tied down long-term, and then loan him out for a couple of seasons or until ready. He's only really scored in League 2, I think?shirty5 said:
Simpson will be playing Championship football by the start of next monthfelix_31 said:As someone has already mentioned - Tyreece Simpson on loan. Not a rumour, I just think it makes sense.
Do we want to guess who the CB could be?0 -
what is?WHAddick said:Interesting...1 -
Would’ve thought Gilbey to Lincoln would be announced by now0
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FWIW, which don't amount to huge hill of beans, but it's my hill, and they're my beans, I hate to see a player leave when we've not had the best out of them. It happens too often. Gilbey has undoubtedly been Charltoniszed and may well return to do us harm. If he goes elsewhere in L1 on loan, we need to make sure he can't play against us.Rothko said:
haha, bless you, I'll stay constantly logged on with alerts so that I can reply to your next sherry-soaked wibble quicker.Dave Rudd said:
In your opinion.Rothko said:
still spouting utter nonsenseDave Rudd said:
That's because he is a good player.Southbank said:
Good news for Lincoln, straight in the team.ForeverAddickted said:
Letting Gilbey go is a mistake.
I'll take the hit if I prove to be wrong.
He hasn't done it for us, but we are letting a good player go. Better than Morgan, better than Kirk, better than McGrandles, better than Jaiyesimi.
Mistake.
Well ... it's not really your opinion, is it? It's just another bandwagon that you have jumped on.
Try to be a bit quicker next time.0 -
Unless it was all made up 🤷♂️cabbles said:Would’ve thought Gilbey to Lincoln would be announced by now0 -
I just don't see how we can persist with Stockley and I don't think its a lack of support that he has suffered from. I would also argue he does not lead the line well.soapboxsam said:Oggy Red said:
Watching all our League game highlights, you'll see that Fraser seems to be the main man designated to centrally support Stockley.soapboxsam said:Cafc43v3r said:
Almost all the signings we have made haven't fitted that, not sure why people think it's a criteria tbh.Henry Irving said:Lewis Grabben is an interesting one.
Croydon born, now 34 but was a regular for Forest last season.
Doesn't fit the young player with sell on potential model but if you want some experience he could be the man.
No idea if he can play Garnerball but he can score goals.
Lewis Grabban can probably play about 60 minutes max these days as he admitted last season when he said he has no problem coming off the bench.
Jayden Stockley is fitting into the Central striker's role well it's just he's not scoring but his headers have led to goals as the keepers have parried them to CBT and Sakyi I still believe Jayden is better with a player close by and Ben Garner may have to compromise as we have some big players and not to utilise Stockley, Leaburn and Inniss with quality high balls into the box would seem strange.
Inniss from set pieces; not playing as a striker !
We see our far side winger is required to get in the box at the far post from wide; and Morgan around the 'D'.
Fraser is the midfielder who moves off the ball to support Stockley in the box centrally.
Whether Stockley is scoring goals or not, he occupies and challenges the oppo CBs and keeper, while our support players ghost in more or less unmarked.
Anyway, that seems to be the plan. We've already scored several goals this way.
That is definitely the plan for playing 4-3-3 with the attacking midfielder supporting as well as the forward from the other flank getting into the box to get nearer to Stockley so he isn't isolated. Goals from Corey Blackett-Taylor and Rak Sakyi from efforts on goal from Jayden have shown how Garner is trying to get this through to the players. The Plymouth game is the only match it has worked for 90+ minutes and that was against 10 men so more space available.
Lots of pressure on Stockley, as he is leading the line well and is fitting in to the system but he has to score goals as well and not quite going in at the moment.
The amount of games, minutes we get out of Aneke will make or break our season even if they are 30 minute cameos including added time as I can't see a striker on the wage available coming into the club in this window.
Maybe in Jan, Thomas may be able to take a gamble with a six month loan if we are top 8 to push us on with a goal scoring forward that will blend in with the Managers idea of play ?
We live in hope.
For CAFC this season he comes 16th of 19 in terms of pass success, 4th highest in terms conceding the ball to the opposition, 3rd highest for miss-controlling the ball. He has lost more aerial duals than won, only winning a higher % than Sessegnon and Clayden. Given away more fouls than any other player. He does come 4th for defensive clearances though. None of that suggests a player that is contributing in our build up or leading the line.
You can forgive that, if he takes his chances. This season he has had 10 shots from inside the penalty area between the penalty spot and 6 yard box, and he has achieved a total of 0 goals. Colby Bishop has 4 from less shots.
The strikers in League One who have have scored 1 or less goals from 10 or more shots in the box this season are as follows:
I don't see how you take the above and get to JS being anything other than a bench player brought on if your throwing balls in the box and need another option in there for the defenders to worry about, or have a slim lead and need someone to help out defending corners.
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It's doesn't matter that I disagree with you Pudds; Ben Garner does as well ! IF we get someone better who can play the central role then they will get the gig.1
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DJ wanted by Mk Dons and Lincoln according to Alan Nixon6
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Oggy Red said:
Watching all our League game highlights, you'll see that Fraser seems to be the main man designated to centrally support Stockley.soapboxsam said:Cafc43v3r said:
Almost all the signings we have made haven't fitted that, not sure why people think it's a criteria tbh.Henry Irving said:Lewis Grabben is an interesting one.
Croydon born, now 34 but was a regular for Forest last season.
Doesn't fit the young player with sell on potential model but if you want some experience he could be the man.
No idea if he can play Garnerball but he can score goals.
Lewis Grabban can probably play about 60 minutes max these days as he admitted last season when he said he has no problem coming off the bench.
Jayden Stockley is fitting into the Central striker's role well it's just he's not scoring but his headers have led to goals as the keepers have parried them to CBT and Sakyi I still believe Jayden is better with a player close by and Ben Garner may have to compromise as we have some big players and not to utilise Stockley, Leaburn and Inniss with quality high balls into the box would seem strange.
Inniss from set pieces; not playing as a striker !
We see our far side winger is required to get in the box at the far post from wide; and Morgan around the 'D'.
Fraser is the midfielder who moves off the ball to support Stockley in the box centrally.
Whether Stockley is scoring goals or not, he occupies and challenges the oppo CBs and keeper, while our support players ghost in more or less unmarked.
Anyway, that seems to be the plan. We've already scored several goals this way.
I'm sure our opponents will be thanking you for those observations.2 -
Or Garner has no choice because he's not being given the opportunity to sign anyone else.soapboxsam said:It's doesn't matter that I disagree with you Pudds; Ben Garner does as well ! IF we get someone better who can play the central role then they will get the gig.1 -
the super dooper deal phone needs a) a live SIM card and b) charging upswordfish said:Saw you last post on the Sandgaard thread @AndyG. Pretty much reflects my thoughts as I never thought we wouldn't sign a striker, and still think we will, but the clocks ticking and I think it should be the priority.
We do still have three available spaces left to fill under the squad number limit though, and that's before letting anyone else go. So I do expect to see plenty more late activity before the window shuts. Snacks needed for deadline day again I fear, if the budget stretches that far of course, which I'm sure it will.
neither likely
keep your snacks for comfort eating as our opponents enjoy the ever widening holes in our threadbare squad0 -
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DJ is an interesting one, probably 3rd even 4th choice in wide positions right now, obviously scored last night and is one of those players, like Gilbey, that probably hasn't fulfilled his potential with us, but at the same time can probably garner quite a bit of interest from other teams around us0
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The ‘lols’ I got for that suggestion at the start of the window!Henry Irving said:Lewis Grabben is an interesting one.
Croydon born, now 34 but was a regular for Forest last season.
Doesn't fit the young player with sell on potential model but if you want some experience he could be the man.
No idea if he can play Garnerball but he can score goals.
Still think he would be a great signing.0 -
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So are Lincoln after both Gilbey and DJ?0
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It’s a rumour on a possible transfer which is only 5% on what this thread has on a weekly basis.Billy_Mix said:
why does anybody read, let alone repeat, this know nothing's baseless dribble?shirty5 said:DJ wanted by Mk Dons and Lincoln according to Alan Nixon
Anymore from Nixon, then rest assured it will be on here when I get a chance7 -
I know it’s Nixon but as Garner said all players could go if we get a good offer and he’s someone that isn’t playing regularly, with everyone fit he’s not even guaranteed to get in the match day squad.shirty5 said:DJ wanted by Mk Dons and Lincoln according to Alan Nixon
The way Garner and TS have spoken it wouldn’t be surprising to see one or two squad players go in order to increase the budget to strengthen the squad overall. A striker who can play out wide could improve us without DJ going having a big impact.4 -
You have no idea whether BG agrees or not. He may have looked at the project and decided to push with the wider changes to get the playing style implemented and leaving JS in place unless an offer came in to get him off the wage bill, or thinks, stick with it and if it doesn't work perhaps budget will come available in Jan.soapboxsam said:It's doesn't matter that I disagree with you Pudds; Ben Garner does as well ! IF we get someone better who can play the central role then they will get the gig.0 -
Don't want any "has beens" here. They simply do not work.0
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cafcfan1990 said:
Or Garner has no choice because he's not being given the opportunity to sign anyone else.soapboxsam said:It's doesn't matter that I disagree with you Pudds; Ben Garner does as well ! IF we get someone better who can play the central role then they will get the gig.
Yes obviously, what League 1 manager wouldn't want better players in the striker role ? That is a Shay Given.
Managers at any level alway want the top strikers available.
Aneke injuries yet again are highlighting the problem of a Quintessential centre Forward like Jayden who will score in a cluster but will have barren spells with guys around who will only chip in with a few goals and there will be games where we look bereft in front of goals. Though no one noticed both goals from Rak and Corey came from efforts from Stockley that the keepers couldn't hold on to. The save in the Plymouth game was top notch from a powerful header by JS.
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