weird that no club has taken a punt on Stockton, it's almost like everyone in football thinks its a freak season
I think it's more that no clubs is prepared to pay what Morecambe want. I think he'll go, and it won't be for a big fee either, probably less than the £500k we paid for Kirk last summer
weird that no club has taken a punt on Stockton, it's almost like everyone in football thinks its a freak season
I think it's more that no clubs is prepared to pay what Morecambe want. I think he'll go, and it won't be for a big fee either, probably less than the £500k we paid for Kirk last summer
Can drive forward with the ball, supposed to be box to box but some argue he hides, inconsistent with minimal goals and assists.
Despite his performances will always have a section of the fan base who rate him highly.
Racon was far better than Gilbey.
Like I said there will always be a section of the fan base who rated him highly
Neither are/were good enough for a promotion chasing team. Racon had more skill on the ball but in terms of goals, assists and controlling a midfield he was ineffective for where we wanted to be, just as Gilbey is.
I didn’t say I rated him highly, I just said he was a lot better than Gilbey. To be fair , Racon played in a central midfield pair in a 442 largely ; Gilbey has invariably been given licence to get forward and has contributed bugger all .
weird that no club has taken a punt on Stockton, it's almost like everyone in football thinks its a freak season
I think it's more that no clubs is prepared to pay what Morecambe want. I think he'll go, and it won't be for a big fee either, probably less than the £500k we paid for Kirk last summer
Because he's not worth it, £100k is probably the ceiling on his fee, and more to the point, it's not the type of player we need
weird that no club has taken a punt on Stockton, it's almost like everyone in football thinks its a freak season
I think it's more that no clubs is prepared to pay what Morecambe want. I think he'll go, and it won't be for a big fee either, probably less than the £500k we paid for Kirk last summer
Because he's not worth it, £100k is probably the ceiling on his fee, and more to the point, it's not the type of player we need
He's exactly the player we need. Stockley's back plays him on Saturday, and we're left with a kid to play up front
DJ would be a loss but if needs must. Better than Kirk IMHO.
With the squad limit, the salary cap plus TS wanting to reduce his loses BG is having to move people on before he can bring our priority player, a centre back.
But Gilbey was meant to be a done deal to Lincoln and now that's seemingly off so I'll wait until it's on the OS.
Come come now @Henry Irving People have gone about a centre forward because Washington was let go, Burstow returned to Chelsea and Davison was sold. Three out None in Madness
Why post the same thing every day?
Agree we need one but only two have gone in reality as Davison was out on loan in the second half of the season. We’re also playing 4-3-3 so don’t need as many out and out strikers.
You're arguing with people that count Burstow as leaving, but not Leaburn breaking through.
Which is true really, I’ve lost count of the number of times someone has said we can’t rely on Leaburn. I agree to an extent so still want a striker in, but he’s clearly ready to be involved. I said in preseason I can see him causing problems for defenders this season.
weird that no club has taken a punt on Stockton, it's almost like everyone in football thinks its a freak season
I think it's more that no clubs is prepared to pay what Morecambe want. I think he'll go, and it won't be for a big fee either, probably less than the £500k we paid for Kirk last summer
Because he's not worth it, £100k is probably the ceiling on his fee, and more to the point, it's not the type of player we need
He's exactly the player we need. Stockley's back plays him on Saturday, and we're left with a kid to play up front
Not if Garner wants a more mobile striker. No doubt Stockton’s quicker than Stockley, but he’s similar in style and Garner may want someone with genuine pace who’ll make more runs in behind and drift wide.
Come come now @Henry Irving People have gone about a centre forward because Washington was let go, Burstow returned to Chelsea and Davison was sold. Three out None in Madness
Why post the same thing every day?
Agree we need one but only two have gone in reality as Davison was out on loan in the second half of the season. We’re also playing 4-3-3 so don’t need as many out and out strikers.
You're arguing with people that count Burstow as leaving, but not Leaburn breaking through.
Which is true really, I’ve lost count of the number of times someone has said we can’t rely on Leaburn. I agree to an extent so still want a striker in, but he’s clearly ready to be involved. I said in preseason I can see him causing problems for defenders this season.
If we can sign another striker who could play that pass he put through for DJ, I'd be very surprised.
weird that no club has taken a punt on Stockton, it's almost like everyone in football thinks its a freak season
I think it's more that no clubs is prepared to pay what Morecambe want. I think he'll go, and it won't be for a big fee either, probably less than the £500k we paid for Kirk last summer
Because he's not worth it, £100k is probably the ceiling on his fee, and more to the point, it's not the type of player we need
He's exactly the player we need. Stockley's back plays him on Saturday, and we're left with a kid to play up front
Not if Garner wants a more mobile striker. No doubt Stockton’s quicker than Stockley, but he’s similar in style and Garner may want someone with genuine pace who’ll make more runs in behind and drift wide.
This, we need a mobile quick option to play in that front 3, we're playing wingers as strikers, when we need a striker who can play wide in a three, and if Stockley is out, we go to a false 9/three smaller quicker players up top. We don't have that player, Stockton is an expensive back up for Stockley
DJ would be a loss but if needs must. Better than Kirk IMHO.
With the squad limit, the salary cap plus TS wanting to reduce his loses BG is having to move people on before he can bring our priority player, a centre back.
But Gilbey was meant to be a done deal to Lincoln and now that's seemingly off so I'll wait until it's on the OS.
There might not be much difference between how they’ve done in a Charlton shirt. But Kirk is much more important to keep because of how good he could be (and he’s starting to show it a little). Kirk is wanted by championship teams, DJ lower half of league 1 teams which says it all.
I’d rather keep both of them but Leaburn, Payne, Egbo are all options out wide so if we need to lose DJ to bring in a CB or a striker then it’s worth it and we have enough cover
Come come now @Henry Irving People have gone about a centre forward because Washington was let go, Burstow returned to Chelsea and Davison was sold. Three out None in Madness
Why post the same thing every day?
Agree we need one but only two have gone in reality as Davison was out on loan in the second half of the season. We’re also playing 4-3-3 so don’t need as many out and out strikers.
You're arguing with people that count Burstow as leaving, but not Leaburn breaking through.
Which is true really, I’ve lost count of the number of times someone has said we can’t rely on Leaburn. I agree to an extent so still want a striker in, but he’s clearly ready to be involved. I said in preseason I can see him causing problems for defenders this season.
If we can sign another striker who could play that pass he put through for DJ, I'd be very surprised.
For some reason, the pass has been slightyly overlooked! A big man with his head up and playing a through ball from the outside of his foot was quite something. You could say it was Elliot Lee to Washington in their pomp (ok, that lasted one whole game!)
I am definitely not in the know and I have no idea wheather we will bring in anyone else or not. What I do know though is as things stand we will probably finish around 10th ( assuming we get our normal amount of injuries ). Bring in another striker and a centre half and the playoffs are achievable. It would be madness not to bring them in.
I am definitely not in the know and I have no idea wheather we will bring in anyone else or not. What I do know though is as things stand we will probably finish around 10th ( assuming we get our normal amount of injuries ). Bring in another striker and a centre half and the playoffs are achievable. It would be madness to NOT bring them in.
I am definitely not in the know and I have no idea wheather we will bring in anyone else or not. What I do know though is as things stand we will probably finish around 10th ( assuming we get our normal amount of injuries ). Bring in another striker and a centre half and the playoffs are achievable. It would be madness to NOT bring them in.
DJ would be a loss but if needs must. Better than Kirk IMHO.
With the squad limit, the salary cap plus TS wanting to reduce his loses BG is having to move people on before he can bring our priority player, a centre back.
But Gilbey was meant to be a done deal to Lincoln and now that's seemingly off so I'll wait until it's on the OS.
Just an observation but squad cap has no bearing as we still have 2-3 places available.
Salary cap also a red herring as, if money from TS came in as equity rather than debt it is no problem and hence entirely within his control.
So it is all about TS and budget.
That is not to say having a prudent budget is a bad thing.
DJ would be a loss but if needs must. Better than Kirk IMHO.
With the squad limit, the salary cap plus TS wanting to reduce his loses BG is having to move people on before he can bring our priority player, a centre back.
But Gilbey was meant to be a done deal to Lincoln and now that's seemingly off so I'll wait until it's on the OS.
Just an observation but squad cap has no bearing as we still have 2-3 places available.
Salary cap also a red herring as, if money from TS came in as equity rather than debt it is no problem and hence entirely within his control.
So it is all about TS and budget.
That is not to say having a prudent budget is a bad thing.
Agreed, squad limit no issue at all, we've only got 19 players so 3 spaces left. The salary cap is clearly an issue for us but it's not like the 2.5mil limit the other season
Whatever the reasons, we're going down the Roland route of having a small decent squad with youngsters filling the spaces. We'll need a lot of luck, especially with injuries.
DJ would be a loss but if needs must. Better than Kirk IMHO.
With the squad limit, the salary cap plus TS wanting to reduce his loses BG is having to move people on before he can bring our priority player, a centre back.
But Gilbey was meant to be a done deal to Lincoln and now that's seemingly off so I'll wait until it's on the OS.
Just an observation but squad cap has no bearing as we still have 2-3 places available.
Salary cap also a red herring as, if money from TS came in as equity rather than debt it is no problem and hence entirely within his control.
So it is all about TS and budget.
That is not to say having a prudent budget is a bad thing.
Agreed, squad limit no issue at all, we've only got 19 players so 3 spaces left. The salary cap is clearly an issue for us but it's not like the 2.5mil limit the other season
Whatever the reasons, we're going down the Roland route of having a small decent squad with youngsters filling the spaces. We'll need a lot of luck, especially with injuries.
The big difference IMO is that our youngsters are good enough and at the right age to make the step up.
My biggest bugbear is the self imposed salary cap that TS has implemented. Yes, you shouldn't just chuck money about left, right and centre and completely spunk money up the wall, but if we're low on quality, there's a player Garner wants, there's a space in the squad, and it's not absolutely silly money, just go ahead and sign them, especially if it's the difference between maybe scraping into the playoffs, or having a squad that's capable of a proper promotion push where playoffs are the minimum
The way I read it from the article is that we have
room within the budget for one more and that is a centre back so that will
happen regardless, anything else needs outgoings first.
Happy if it is BG final say on both in and out to
shape the squad how he wants. Issue we have seen before since Adkins
is not having the players to play the way the manager wants. If DJ and or others
leaves and it allows players to come in that allows Garner to play the way he
wants so be it.
DJ would be a loss but if needs must. Better than Kirk IMHO.
With the squad limit, the salary cap plus TS wanting to reduce his loses BG is having to move people on before he can bring our priority player, a centre back.
But Gilbey was meant to be a done deal to Lincoln and now that's seemingly off so I'll wait until it's on the OS.
Just an observation but squad cap has no bearing as we still have 2-3 places available.
Salary cap also a red herring as, if money from TS came in as equity rather than debt it is no problem and hence entirely within his control.
So it is all about TS and budget.
That is not to say having a prudent budget is a bad thing.
Agreed, squad limit no issue at all, we've only got 19 players so 3 spaces left. The salary cap is clearly an issue for us but it's not like the 2.5mil limit the other season
Whatever the reasons, we're going down the Roland route of having a small decent squad with youngsters filling the spaces. We'll need a lot of luck, especially with injuries.
The big difference IMO is that our youngsters are good enough and at the right age to make the step up.
Are they? Leaburn and Henry are only 18. Some of the youngsters have always been good enough, Dijksteel, Konsa, Aribo and Lookman have all done well.
If Garner was satisfied with Clayden at LB and Leaburn up top he wouldn't have talked about ideally wanting a full-back and striker.
If Gilbey watches Inside the Force 24/7, he is defo not moving up to Lincoln. Proper shithousery on their streets as soon as the sun sets!
No more than…..in fact most likely less…..than the average UK city of its size. Great place to live Lincoln, lots of very interesting stuff going on there, with a huge student community. Some fantastic outlying villages and surrounding towns, from the city centre you are never more than ten minutes drive away from full on countryside and farmland.
If Gilbey watches Inside the Force 24/7, he is defo not moving up to Lincoln. Proper shithousery on their streets as soon as the sun sets!
No more than…..in fact most likely less…..than the average UK city of its size. Great place to live Lincoln, lots of very interesting stuff going on there, with a huge student community. Some fantastic outlying villages and surrounding towns, from the city centre you are never more than ten minutes away from full on countryside.
I'm note sure 20 something footballers will be thinking like that!
DJ would be a loss but if needs must. Better than Kirk IMHO.
With the squad limit, the salary cap plus TS wanting to reduce his loses BG is having to move people on before he can bring our priority player, a centre back.
But Gilbey was meant to be a done deal to Lincoln and now that's seemingly off so I'll wait until it's on the OS.
Kirk’s final pass is better, but DJ can he a handful, as he was against QPR.
Striker essential for me, but recruiting both a CB and a striker would ideal.
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With the squad limit, the salary cap plus TS wanting to reduce his loses BG is having to move people on before he can bring our priority player, a centre back.
But Gilbey was meant to be a done deal to Lincoln and now that's seemingly off so I'll wait until it's on the OS.
What I do know though is as things stand we will probably finish around 10th ( assuming we get our normal amount of injuries ).
Bring in another striker and a centre half and the playoffs are achievable.
It would be madness not to bring them in.
Just an observation but squad cap has no bearing as we still have 2-3 places available.
Salary cap also a red herring as, if money from TS came in as equity rather than debt it is no problem and hence entirely within his control.
So it is all about TS and budget.
That is not to say having a prudent budget is a bad thing.
Whatever the reasons, we're going down the Roland route of having a small decent squad with youngsters filling the spaces. We'll need a lot of luck, especially with injuries.
The way I read it from the article is that we have room within the budget for one more and that is a centre back so that will happen regardless, anything else needs outgoings first.
Happy if it is BG final say on both in and out to shape the squad how he wants. Issue we have seen before since Adkins is not having the players to play the way the manager wants. If DJ and or others leaves and it allows players to come in that allows Garner to play the way he wants so be it.
If Garner was satisfied with Clayden at LB and Leaburn up top he wouldn't have talked about ideally wanting a full-back and striker.
Great place to live Lincoln, lots of very interesting stuff going on there, with a huge student community.
Some fantastic outlying villages and surrounding towns, from the city centre you are never more than ten minutes drive away from full on countryside and farmland.
Striker essential for me, but recruiting both a CB and a striker would ideal.
Basically, he’d be a Washington replacement. But better on the wing, whereas Washington was more effective up front.