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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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Can only think Davison is fourth choice (and available if we get a decent offer for him).Callumcafc said:Marquis and Davison up front first game of the season.
If Stockley *is* sold then Maquis will be the big man up top (and better on the ball than Stockley) so not a total disaster.Then I’m sure they’ll be looking to bring in the pacy young striker we’ve been clamouring for; and one other striker if Davison goes.The next two months will be crucial blah blah.0 -
Same again then. He’s not an upgrade on Stockley.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
He won't replace Washington. Maybe the plan is for a like for like Stockley replacement that makes us money.The Red Robin said:Not sure how he’s an upgrade on Washington.
Sell Stockley for ££££, sign Marquis on a free. I can't see a world in which we need all our strikers to be 6ft+ unless the new manager is John Beck.0 -
Why is everyone so convinced that Stockley is leaving?2
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Glad I’m not the only one who sees the irony in pages and pages of posts from people with zero football qualifications moaning about how the people running the club lack footballing qualifications.Covered End said:
Says the bloke moaning incessantly that MS isn't best qualified in his role.supaclive said:
I will take my own opinion in front of Danny Cowley.Scoham said:
And I shared this the other day in another thread, sounds like his ability or desire to press isn’t an issue.supaclive said:
Agree he’s not the striker we need.
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/danny-cowley-gives-his-verdict-on-misfiring-john-marquis-at-portsmouth.588829/
“He tried so hard for the team, defended from the front brilliantly and did great for Marcus’ (Harness) goal, but he missed some chances – that’s the life of a number nine, I guess.
But nevertheless we both agree he's not the centre forward we need, but I fear he IS the centre forward we are getting....
You couldn't make it up.
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Because all it takes on here these days is one post relaying a rumour, mainly if it is perceived to be bad news, no matter how spurious the rumour and how much evidence there is contrary to the rumour, and a significant number of serial posters lose their collective minds.Lazy_eye_metaphor said:Why is everyone so convinced that Stockley is leaving?
Through no fault of the people who work hard to administer the forum, this place has become a parody of itself. CL used to be an abbreviation for Charlton Life, but these days it’s more Chicken Licken because the sky is always apparently falling in.10 -
Because every bad news rumour is true and every good news rumour is false.Lazy_eye_metaphor said:Why is everyone so convinced that Stockley is leaving?5 -
I've got a radical idea. Let's see who we sign and how we start the season.18
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Not that I really want him but if Garner has been consulted on that to fit in his system then he could be a good player at this level. ‘Being consulted’ is the main thing.Cafc43v3r said:Elliot Lee 😬😬0 -
A young pacey striker only compliments in the right system. Absolutely pointless in others.golfaddick said:
No, not every one.FishCostaFortune said:
And you’ve interpreted that to mean that every player we buy from now on must be 25 and under or TS is not true to his word on this?golfaddick said:
I'm just reiterating what we keep on being told.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.
Youth
Saleable
For the future.
But then again, when did Sandgaard's actions match his words.
Among many awful takes by you that’s got to be up there with the worst.
But I'd like to see us bring in a young pacey striker, not a 30 year old lump. Start as you mean to go on.
But hey ho.2 -
Could you find some abbreviated way of saying that?Covered End said:I've got a radical idea. Let's see who we sign and how we start the season.1 - Sponsored links:
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If you play 343 we have pacey wide players in DJ and CBT.ValleyGary said:
A young pacey striker only compliments in the right system. Absolutely pointless in others.golfaddick said:
No, not every one.FishCostaFortune said:
And you’ve interpreted that to mean that every player we buy from now on must be 25 and under or TS is not true to his word on this?golfaddick said:
I'm just reiterating what we keep on being told.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.
Youth
Saleable
For the future.
But then again, when did Sandgaard's actions match his words.
Among many awful takes by you that’s got to be up there with the worst.
But I'd like to see us bring in a young pacey striker, not a 30 year old lump. Start as you mean to go on.
But hey ho.
You then only need two mobile centre backs either side of Lavelle and two more midfielders other than Fraser and Dobson.
This recruitment lark is a piece of cake.
No wonder even MS can do it.2 -
Because the posters moaning AREN'T RUNNING THE CLUB.Exiled_Addick said:
Glad I’m not the only one who sees the irony in pages and pages of posts from people with zero football qualifications moaning about how the people running the club lack footballing qualifications.Covered End said:
Says the bloke moaning incessantly that MS isn't best qualified in his role.supaclive said:
I will take my own opinion in front of Danny Cowley.Scoham said:
And I shared this the other day in another thread, sounds like his ability or desire to press isn’t an issue.supaclive said:
Agree he’s not the striker we need.
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/danny-cowley-gives-his-verdict-on-misfiring-john-marquis-at-portsmouth.588829/
“He tried so hard for the team, defended from the front brilliantly and did great for Marcus’ (Harness) goal, but he missed some chances – that’s the life of a number nine, I guess.
But nevertheless we both agree he's not the centre forward we need, but I fear he IS the centre forward we are getting....
You couldn't make it up.
If you call a plumber round to fix a problem you expect them to be qualified to do the job ......otherwise you would do it yourself.2 -
I would say the right system is one that compliments a pacey striker. Anything else is the wrong system. Or have Pep & Klopp got it wrong. Perhaps we can sell them Stockley & Davison & tell them that 2 big lumps up front is the way to go.ValleyGary said:
A young pacey striker only compliments in the right system. Absolutely pointless in others.golfaddick said:
No, not every one.FishCostaFortune said:
And you’ve interpreted that to mean that every player we buy from now on must be 25 and under or TS is not true to his word on this?golfaddick said:
I'm just reiterating what we keep on being told.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.
Youth
Saleable
For the future.
But then again, when did Sandgaard's actions match his words.
Among many awful takes by you that’s got to be up there with the worst.
But I'd like to see us bring in a young pacey striker, not a 30 year old lump. Start as you mean to go on.
But hey ho.1 -
With 343 or 433 you do need the wide attacking players chipping in with significant numbers of goals as well. They can't just be wingers who score 3-5 a season, they need to be 10+ goal players. Or you need a midfield full of goals.
Neither CBT nor DJ have been prolific scorers, so it's asking a lot of them to step up.4 -
Don't Pep and Klopp mainly use a front three with the pace coming from the wide forwards? In a 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 or 3-4-3 for us that would be someone like CBT for us rather than an out and out striker like Washington.golfaddick said:
I would say the right system is one that compliments a pacey striker. Anything else is the wrong system. Or have Pep & Klopp got it wrong. Perhaps we can sell them Stockley & Davison & tell them that 2 big lumps up front is the way to go.ValleyGary said:
A young pacey striker only compliments in the right system. Absolutely pointless in others.golfaddick said:
No, not every one.FishCostaFortune said:
And you’ve interpreted that to mean that every player we buy from now on must be 25 and under or TS is not true to his word on this?golfaddick said:
I'm just reiterating what we keep on being told.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.
Youth
Saleable
For the future.
But then again, when did Sandgaard's actions match his words.
Among many awful takes by you that’s got to be up there with the worst.
But I'd like to see us bring in a young pacey striker, not a 30 year old lump. Start as you mean to go on.
But hey ho.3 -
killerandflash said:With 343 or 433 you do need the wide attacking players chipping in with significant numbers of goals as well. They can't just be wingers who score 3-5 a season, they need to be 10+ goal players. Or you need a midfield full of goals.
Neither CBT nor DJ have been prolific scorers, so it's asking a lot of them to step up.
Cheers killer.
Saves me keep saying it.
I would've CBT in the 3 up top because he can switch to take on the weakest defender plus he can supply lots of assists from either flank but the other two would have to be goal scorers in the 15 to 20 mark. We need a goal scoring midfielder and that person isn't at the club yet.
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Who is Liverpool's pacey striker?golfaddick said:
I would say the right system is one that compliments a pacey striker. Anything else is the wrong system. Or have Pep & Klopp got it wrong. Perhaps we can sell them Stockley & Davison & tell them that 2 big lumps up front is the way to go.ValleyGary said:
A young pacey striker only compliments in the right system. Absolutely pointless in others.golfaddick said:
No, not every one.FishCostaFortune said:
And you’ve interpreted that to mean that every player we buy from now on must be 25 and under or TS is not true to his word on this?golfaddick said:
I'm just reiterating what we keep on being told.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.
Youth
Saleable
For the future.
But then again, when did Sandgaard's actions match his words.
Among many awful takes by you that’s got to be up there with the worst.
But I'd like to see us bring in a young pacey striker, not a 30 year old lump. Start as you mean to go on.
But hey ho.1 -
All of em... Probably easier to ask who their big lump of a target man isChunes said:
Who is Liverpool's pacey striker?golfaddick said:
I would say the right system is one that compliments a pacey striker. Anything else is the wrong system. Or have Pep & Klopp got it wrong. Perhaps we can sell them Stockley & Davison & tell them that 2 big lumps up front is the way to go.ValleyGary said:
A young pacey striker only compliments in the right system. Absolutely pointless in others.golfaddick said:
No, not every one.FishCostaFortune said:
And you’ve interpreted that to mean that every player we buy from now on must be 25 and under or TS is not true to his word on this?golfaddick said:
I'm just reiterating what we keep on being told.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.
Youth
Saleable
For the future.
But then again, when did Sandgaard's actions match his words.
Among many awful takes by you that’s got to be up there with the worst.
But I'd like to see us bring in a young pacey striker, not a 30 year old lump. Start as you mean to go on.
But hey ho.4 -
Salah and Mane aren't strikers, though.ForeverAddickted said:
All of em... Probably easier to ask who their big lump of a target man isChunes said:
Who is Liverpool's pacey striker?golfaddick said:
I would say the right system is one that compliments a pacey striker. Anything else is the wrong system. Or have Pep & Klopp got it wrong. Perhaps we can sell them Stockley & Davison & tell them that 2 big lumps up front is the way to go.ValleyGary said:
A young pacey striker only compliments in the right system. Absolutely pointless in others.golfaddick said:
No, not every one.FishCostaFortune said:
And you’ve interpreted that to mean that every player we buy from now on must be 25 and under or TS is not true to his word on this?golfaddick said:
I'm just reiterating what we keep on being told.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.
Youth
Saleable
For the future.
But then again, when did Sandgaard's actions match his words.
Among many awful takes by you that’s got to be up there with the worst.
But I'd like to see us bring in a young pacey striker, not a 30 year old lump. Start as you mean to go on.
But hey ho.
Who was the pacey one out of Hunt & Mendonca
Just saying that is an oversimplification Golfie. The 433 would definitely work with a pacey striker but it's the right type of pacey striker. Washington could definitely not play that role.2 -
Agreed, I really rated him at this level but if we're going to three up front he becomes a left winger, and he's pretty pedestrian as a left winger. Him and Stockley as a two should easily be one of the best pairings in the league. But Washington likes to drift wide and play on the shoulder and that can't be your focal point CF and he's shown he doesn't quite have the quality or pace to play as a sort of wide forward cutting in and running in behind.Chunes said:
Salah and Mane aren't strikers, though.ForeverAddickted said:
All of em... Probably easier to ask who their big lump of a target man isChunes said:
Who is Liverpool's pacey striker?golfaddick said:
I would say the right system is one that compliments a pacey striker. Anything else is the wrong system. Or have Pep & Klopp got it wrong. Perhaps we can sell them Stockley & Davison & tell them that 2 big lumps up front is the way to go.ValleyGary said:
A young pacey striker only compliments in the right system. Absolutely pointless in others.golfaddick said:
No, not every one.FishCostaFortune said:
And you’ve interpreted that to mean that every player we buy from now on must be 25 and under or TS is not true to his word on this?golfaddick said:
I'm just reiterating what we keep on being told.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.
Youth
Saleable
For the future.
But then again, when did Sandgaard's actions match his words.
Among many awful takes by you that’s got to be up there with the worst.
But I'd like to see us bring in a young pacey striker, not a 30 year old lump. Start as you mean to go on.
But hey ho.
Who was the pacey one out of Hunt & Mendonca
Just saying that is an oversimplification Golfie. The 433 would definitely work with a pacey striker but it's the right type of pacey striker. Washington could definitely not play that role.
Best of luck to him. I really appreciated his time at the club. But I think it's long past time that we recruited to a system and style of play and if he doesn't fit that, so be it.
Now, does Stockley fit a slick passing, high pressing, mobile forward role? Er, no. Does Aneke? Maybe. If fit and firing I think he has all the raw tools. But it's that first bit that's the problem.
Davison fits the bill as far as mobility goes, and he can finish. But the problem is his tactical nous is poor and his touch maybe poorer. It's why he at times looked good under Adkins as a lone forward, he could just kind of run around and if the ball got lumped to him and he didn't control it we blamed (not wrongly necessarily) not having someone closer to him. But you saw under Jacko when he was asked to play as part of a two, to drop deep, to link up, he looked bad.
He can, to be fair, finish. And maybe as a third or fourth striker at this level he's alright. Maybe he really came on leaps and bounds under BG. But I struggle to see him being much else, and think it's just as if not more likely we sell him on for a small sum.4 - Sponsored links:
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Good summary of the options. Unlike the other 2, Aneke can actually receive the ball with his feet and link play, Stockley isn’t great with his feet and isn’t mobile. To play on your own you need to be a good all round striker which Stockley is not, he’s very good at his strengths but has very clear weaknesses, unless we play to those strengths he won’t be that effectiveSDAddick said:
Agreed, I really rated him at this level but if we're going to three up front he becomes a left winger, and he's pretty pedestrian as a left winger. Him and Stockley as a two should easily be one of the best pairings in the league. But Washington likes to drift wide and play on the shoulder and that can't be your focal point CF and he's shown he doesn't quite have the quality or pace to play as a sort of wide forward cutting in and running in behind.Chunes said:
Salah and Mane aren't strikers, though.ForeverAddickted said:
All of em... Probably easier to ask who their big lump of a target man isChunes said:
Who is Liverpool's pacey striker?golfaddick said:
I would say the right system is one that compliments a pacey striker. Anything else is the wrong system. Or have Pep & Klopp got it wrong. Perhaps we can sell them Stockley & Davison & tell them that 2 big lumps up front is the way to go.ValleyGary said:
A young pacey striker only compliments in the right system. Absolutely pointless in others.golfaddick said:
No, not every one.FishCostaFortune said:
And you’ve interpreted that to mean that every player we buy from now on must be 25 and under or TS is not true to his word on this?golfaddick said:
I'm just reiterating what we keep on being told.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.
Youth
Saleable
For the future.
But then again, when did Sandgaard's actions match his words.
Among many awful takes by you that’s got to be up there with the worst.
But I'd like to see us bring in a young pacey striker, not a 30 year old lump. Start as you mean to go on.
But hey ho.
Who was the pacey one out of Hunt & Mendonca
Just saying that is an oversimplification Golfie. The 433 would definitely work with a pacey striker but it's the right type of pacey striker. Washington could definitely not play that role.
Best of luck to him. I really appreciated his time at the club. But I think it's long past time that we recruited to a system and style of play and if he doesn't fit that, so be it.
Now, does Stockley fit a slick passing, high pressing, mobile forward role? Er, no. Does Aneke? Maybe. If fit and firing I think he has all the raw tools. But it's that first bit that's the problem.
Davison fits the bill as far as mobility goes, and he can finish. But the problem is his tactical nous is poor and his touch maybe poorer. It's why he at times looked good under Adkins as a lone forward, he could just kind of run around and if the ball got lumped to him and he didn't control it we blamed (not wrongly necessarily) not having someone closer to him. But you saw under Jacko when he was asked to play as part of a two, to drop deep, to link up, he looked bad.
He can, to be fair, finish. And maybe as a third or fourth striker at this level he's alright. Maybe he really came on leaps and bounds under BG. But I struggle to see him being much else, and think it's just as if not more likely we sell him on for a small sum.1 -
Chunes said:
Who is Liverpool's pacey striker?golfaddick said:
I would say the right system is one that compliments a pacey striker. Anything else is the wrong system. Or have Pep & Klopp got it wrong. Perhaps we can sell them Stockley & Davison & tell them that 2 big lumps up front is the way to go.ValleyGary said:
A young pacey striker only compliments in the right system. Absolutely pointless in others.golfaddick said:
No, not every one.FishCostaFortune said:
And you’ve interpreted that to mean that every player we buy from now on must be 25 and under or TS is not true to his word on this?golfaddick said:
I'm just reiterating what we keep on being told.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.
Youth
Saleable
For the future.
But then again, when did Sandgaard's actions match his words.
Among many awful takes by you that’s got to be up there with the worst.
But I'd like to see us bring in a young pacey striker, not a 30 year old lump. Start as you mean to go on.
But hey ho.
They have 5 potential pacey strikers. You are getting a number 9/ centre forward who only stays central with the modern forwards that roam. Pacey striker can mean over the first few yards to lose defenders not someone who emulates Usain Bolt. Salah and Mane are strikers than roam and score plenty of goals. They go wide they drift into the box. At a lower level the same as Taylor and Grant did for cafc when they played together for those 5 months. Big strikers like Stockley are still effective in League 1 because the CB are lower Quality. ( And so are the strikers !)0 -
Origi was the only Liverpool attacking player who you could call a traditional No 9, and he was very much a Plan B (or even C) sub. Even Firmino, while classified as a striker in Fantasy Football, moves around a lot and often drops deep.1
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Salah is a right-winger and Mane is a left-winger. They're not strikers who roam wide, they're wingers who cut inside.soapboxsam said:Chunes said:
Who is Liverpool's pacey striker?golfaddick said:
I would say the right system is one that compliments a pacey striker. Anything else is the wrong system. Or have Pep & Klopp got it wrong. Perhaps we can sell them Stockley & Davison & tell them that 2 big lumps up front is the way to go.ValleyGary said:
A young pacey striker only compliments in the right system. Absolutely pointless in others.golfaddick said:
No, not every one.FishCostaFortune said:
And you’ve interpreted that to mean that every player we buy from now on must be 25 and under or TS is not true to his word on this?golfaddick said:
I'm just reiterating what we keep on being told.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.
Youth
Saleable
For the future.
But then again, when did Sandgaard's actions match his words.
Among many awful takes by you that’s got to be up there with the worst.
But I'd like to see us bring in a young pacey striker, not a 30 year old lump. Start as you mean to go on.
But hey ho.
They have 5 potential pacey strikers. You are getting a number 9/ centre forward who only stays central with the modern forwards that roam. Pacey striker can mean over the first few yards to lose defenders not someone who emulates Usain Bolt. Salah and Mane are strikers than roam and score plenty of goals. They go wide they drift into the box. At a lower level the same as Taylor and Grant did for cafc when they played together for those 5 months. Big strikers like Stockley are still effective in League 1 because the CB are lower Quality. ( And so are the strikers !)
Let's not get into a silly argument about whether a winger is really a striker, either.0 -
Mane was a right winger until they signed Salah, then was a left winger and since they have signed Diaz he has been a false 9.Chunes said:
Salah is a right-winger and Mane is a left-winger. They're not strikers who roam wide, they're wingers who cut inside.soapboxsam said:Chunes said:
Who is Liverpool's pacey striker?golfaddick said:
I would say the right system is one that compliments a pacey striker. Anything else is the wrong system. Or have Pep & Klopp got it wrong. Perhaps we can sell them Stockley & Davison & tell them that 2 big lumps up front is the way to go.ValleyGary said:
A young pacey striker only compliments in the right system. Absolutely pointless in others.golfaddick said:
No, not every one.FishCostaFortune said:
And you’ve interpreted that to mean that every player we buy from now on must be 25 and under or TS is not true to his word on this?golfaddick said:
I'm just reiterating what we keep on being told.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.
Youth
Saleable
For the future.
But then again, when did Sandgaard's actions match his words.
Among many awful takes by you that’s got to be up there with the worst.
But I'd like to see us bring in a young pacey striker, not a 30 year old lump. Start as you mean to go on.
But hey ho.
They have 5 potential pacey strikers. You are getting a number 9/ centre forward who only stays central with the modern forwards that roam. Pacey striker can mean over the first few yards to lose defenders not someone who emulates Usain Bolt. Salah and Mane are strikers than roam and score plenty of goals. They go wide they drift into the box. At a lower level the same as Taylor and Grant did for cafc when they played together for those 5 months. Big strikers like Stockley are still effective in League 1 because the CB are lower Quality. ( And so are the strikers !)
Let's not get into a silly argument about whether a winger is really a striker, either.
Wingers/strikers are fast becoming redundant terms of the top players, not so much in the case of Stockley and Kirk.1 -
Chunes said:
Salah is a right-winger and Mane is a left-winger. They're not strikers who roam wide, they're wingers who cut inside.soapboxsam said:Chunes said:
Who is Liverpool's pacey striker?golfaddick said:
I would say the right system is one that compliments a pacey striker. Anything else is the wrong system. Or have Pep & Klopp got it wrong. Perhaps we can sell them Stockley & Davison & tell them that 2 big lumps up front is the way to go.ValleyGary said:
A young pacey striker only compliments in the right system. Absolutely pointless in others.golfaddick said:
No, not every one.FishCostaFortune said:
And you’ve interpreted that to mean that every player we buy from now on must be 25 and under or TS is not true to his word on this?golfaddick said:
I'm just reiterating what we keep on being told.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.
Youth
Saleable
For the future.
But then again, when did Sandgaard's actions match his words.
Among many awful takes by you that’s got to be up there with the worst.
But I'd like to see us bring in a young pacey striker, not a 30 year old lump. Start as you mean to go on.
But hey ho.
They have 5 potential pacey strikers. You are getting a number 9/ centre forward who only stays central with the modern forwards that roam. Pacey striker can mean over the first few yards to lose defenders not someone who emulates Usain Bolt. Salah and Mane are strikers than roam and score plenty of goals. They go wide they drift into the box. At a lower level the same as Taylor and Grant did for cafc when they played together for those 5 months. Big strikers like Stockley are still effective in League 1 because the CB are lower Quality. ( And so are the strikers !)
Let's not get into a silly argument about whether a winger is really a striker, either.
I'm discombobulated.
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Let’s just call them forwards. Too much Football Manager.1
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Exactly, what is a false 9. I would say a false 9 is a 6 and vice versaThe Red Robin said:Let’s just call them forwards. Too much Football Manager.0 -
The Red Robin said:Let’s just call them forwards. Too much Football Manager.
Never played football manager in my life but have managed and coached for real and Salah and Mane are strikers/forwards who can turn up any where in the forward line.
Not being pedantic but they aren't wingers.
Stockley is a Striker/Number 9/centre forward.
If we play 3 up front next season then we need the clone of Karlan Grant to play in one position, with either Aneke/Stockley central and CBT on which ever side he can exploit the full back. The new Forward must be a goal scorer in the 15-20 range if we have any ambition of top 6. CBT if not used to waste energy in defensive positions can be a big assists man and I would like to think he could be a 8-12 goal man if he stays fit and his confidence which can be fickle stays high.0 -
soapboxsam said:The Red Robin said:Let’s just call them forwards. Too much Football Manager.
Never played football manager in my life but have managed and coached for real and Salah and Mane are strikers/forwards who can turn up any where in the forward line.
Not being pedantic but they aren't wingers.
Stockley is a Striker/Number 9/centre forward.
If we play 3 up front next season then we need the clone of Karlan Grant to play in one position, with either Aneke/Stockley central and CBT on which ever side he can exploit the full back. The new Forward must be a goal scorer in the 15-20 range if we have any ambition of top 6. CBT if not used to waste energy in defensive positions can be a big assists man and I would like to think he could be a 8-12 goal man if he stays fit and his confidence which can be fickle stays high.Anyway, my last post on this, way off topic and it is pedantic!3
