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Post-match Thread: Charlton Athletic vs Shrewsbury Town | Saturday 23rd April 2022
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Yes he is the same one who palmed the cross to PratleyGarrymanilow said:Abusing anyone on the grounds of their race or nationality is disgraceful regardless, but isn't that the keeper who gifted us the equaliser in extra time against Doncaster? Why are you picking on him?? He's a Charlton legend!0 -
2 assists for Morgan makes 7 for the season, the most out of any Charlton player this season incidentally
I'd be interested in the stats for the type of goal we score, as I suspect the percentage of goals we score from set pieces or headers is quite high, especially with Stockley and Chuks in the air.2 -
This aged well.cazo said:
Goalkeeper being a big kid needs to get real and grow up for fuck sake 🍺SouthWest_Addicks said:What happened to cause the delay?4 -
Me too. Also had Stockley to score two, and CBT to score any time.killerandflash said:FFS Charlton, I just realised that I predicted a 2-1 win, you couldn't even let in a late consolation goal.Also cashed out my top half bet last week.If you see me near a bookies, shoot me.0 -
Second half much improved from the second, actually thought DJ had a really good game, not as good as CBT but filled his shoes well enough. I’d be curious to see them both on the pitch at the same time on opposite wings. Macca had a tidy game, credit where credit is due if we are gonna shred him.Side note is it me or has Akin slimmed down a bit? He looked a lot more agile and less wide to me. Could improve him. Be a shame we won’t see him again at the valley cause I am adamant he is our best centre back and has a high ceiling1
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First half, ball from Matthews I think, when he should have hit it first time but took 2 touches and got closed down. Don’t get me wrong. I like him. I think he’s a decent player. If he was L2 I think he would definitely win trophies but I don’t think he’s a top L1/champ quality playerkillerandflash said:
I didn't see any situations where Albie should definitely have shot, as when the ball came to him there were usually several players between him and the goalCatAddick said:Finally made it home. Glad we won. That was hard to watch. I suppose if Conor took every 1-on-1 he’d be playing at a higher level…. Definitely need an overhaul of midfield. Despite the two assists Albie really has a limited footballing brain; needs to shoot a bit more - bit in the end he’s not quite L1 quality. And as for Gilbey, when he does nothing he is really good at it, but when he tries to do something he’s actually a bit shit
Indeed didn't Bowyer tell his players NOT to shoot from the edge of the box, as it rarely works, maybe Jacko is the same?1 -
Zzzzzz first half but more entertaining second. Great to see Chuks score and thunderous header from Stockley.
Must keep Washington. Spend all summer practicing one on ones and finishing and he'll bag loads.
Good to end the (home) season on a positive note but a lot of work to do between now and 30 July (and quickly) if we want a more fruitful season next term.
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Really dull first half after an entertaining opening 5 mins.The turning point was definitely the fantastic double save by McG. After that, we attacked with more pace and intensity and it was a very enjoyable last half hour.
Looking ahead; for me, the changes most have to come in the off season with the midfield that has been playing in the last few games. There just isn’t the energy and quality in open play. Morgan and Gilbey quite simply can’t be starters in a promotion push in this league. I am a big fan of Fraser from his time at Burton and MK and have been calling for his signing for a while so I am excited by what he can bring but I definitely want another couple in. Someone in the all action mould of Camara at Plymouth (although unfortunately I don’t think he’s obtainable any more)
I believe in Lavelle and Clare, but they’ll definitely need more support, though I have high hopes that Elerewe and Ness will both be in and around the first team squad next season.
The season has been one to forget but I do believe we have a good core of players and I think we’re heading in the right direction.
Special mention for an excellent substitution by Jackson to take off Gilbey and bring on Aneke. Was such a positive statement and Shrewsbury just didn’t know how to deal with it.5 -
Exactly, sjh !sirjohnhumphrey said:Could it also be the case that it’s pretty pointless risking JFC in these last few games which are meaningless. It was a bad injury and we aren’t short of options in his position, even if not of the highest quality.
Maybe the thought is that he will get a good pre season and be in a stronger position come August.
Got it in one.2 -
You’re not going to keep this up next season?! Please noooooo.Henry Irving said:We won.
In Wales people are often nicknamed after their profession ie Jones the post or Ivor the Engine.
Now we have Morgan the Assist.
12th place and top half. Pass the smelling salts.:-)1 - Sponsored links:
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No need to worry now though because we have just signed a player improvement coach who will have Washington banging then in left, right & centre next season 😄superclive98 said:
Washington really tries but is truly awful when one on one.Croydon said:
Didnt you start the 'Stockley and Washington underrated' thread based off stats, only to then call Stockley a donkey a week later because you watched your first live match of the season?Callumcafc said:
He has missed 15 “big chances” this season according to the stats. He’s not in bad company either…Croydon said:
I don't think lack of chances has been Washington's issue this season.Callumcafc said:
With better midfielders, we could be supplying him with more 1on1 situations to score from. A striker in the third tier isn’t going to put all of them away. BWP didn’t.Croydon said:
Washington put a 1on1 straight at the keeper. Againgolfaddick said:I don't think the strikers are the problem, it's the service. I wasn't there today but by all accounts 2 good deliveries by Morgan = 2 goals. Until we get midfielders who can put strikers through on goal or take a decent corner/ free kick we will struggle for the play offs.
Stockley, Washington, Aneke plus back up should be enough to get top 6. It's the midfield that needs the overhaul. Not sure Morgan is the answer even if he did make the 2 goals today.
L1 leaders in missed big chances:
1 Ross Stewart (21)
2 Matty Taylor (19)
3 Macauley Bonne (17)
4 Alfie May (16)
5 Will Keane (16)
6 Jayden Stockley (16)
7 Conor Washington (15)
8 Ryan Hardie (14)
9 Freddie Ladapo (14)
10 Michael Smith (13)
11 Vadaine Oliver (13)
12 Sam Vokes (12)
13 Colby Bishop (12)
14 Troy Parrott (12)
15 Callum Lang (12)
16 John Marquis (11)
17 Mo Eisa (11)
18 George Hirst (10)
19 Joe Ironside (10)
20 Brandon Hanlan (10)
I don't know what that stat site counts as a 'big chance' but I do know what i see Washington miss week in week out.
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Aneke has come on in midfield for 2 or the 3 matches which probably has stopped him coming of the bench.Fanny Fanackapan said:
Exactly, sjh !sirjohnhumphrey said:Could it also be the case that it’s pretty pointless risking JFC in these last few games which are meaningless. It was a bad injury and we aren’t short of options in his position, even if not of the highest quality.
Maybe the thought is that he will get a good pre season and be in a stronger position come August.
Got it in one.0 -
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Looking at Jackson's record over the season, if he was in charge from the start of the season and the points were averaged out from that point, we would have 74 points. This is still way short. but the playoff target this season is very high and the points average doesn't take into account the injuries for almost two months to three first choice forwards. This team has the basis and with additions plus a pre season for Frazer and Gilbey, who both had bouts of Co vid, the team, with some excellent youngsters knocking on the door, could do something next season.2
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Turgid game of football. Thankfully my last late nigh/ early morning until August.Cannot believe we have so many professional players that can't do the simple things such as passing.Gilbey must have some dirt on Jacko, stealing a living since the home game against Ipswich.0
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Stolen from an Ipswich link, but have started the table from the day before the Sunderland away game. We’d be four points from the playoffs under Jacko.Bailey said:Looking at Jackson's record over the season, if he was in charge from the start of the season and the points were averaged out from that point, we would have 74 points. This is still way short. but the playoff target this season is very high and the points average doesn't take into account the injuries for almost two months to three first choice forwards. This team has the basis and with additions plus a pre season for Frazer and Gilbey, who both had bouts of Co vid, the team, with some excellent youngsters knocking on the door, could do something next season.
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I have always been a very caring and benevolent father I have never forced my kids into a lifetime of suffering. They got the shirts as toddlers and even cuddly toys, but I with the wife agreed to only take them if they wanted to go, not me hoping they would go. My middle child attempted a couple of games about a decade again but I realised she wasn't really enjoying it and was simply coming to make me happy, so that stopped. Well yesterday my 21 and 19 year old daughters took me to the football, I haven't enjoyed going as much since Wembley, the sense of dread when defending was back and the explosion of joy when we scored. I guess it was the act of sharing something that has always been important to me with people whose opinion I cared about.
Best thing is that they both want to do it again and both said we when talking about Charlton. Happy days.28 - Sponsored links:
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I am a huge critic of MacGillivray but yesterday he won us three points. A bit of balance against the point(s) he lost us against Morecambe.13
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So... still 12th then...? Great stat !matt88 said:
Stolen from an Ipswich link, but have started the table from the day before the Sunderland away game. We’d be four points from the playoffs under Jacko.Bailey said:Looking at Jackson's record over the season, if he was in charge from the start of the season and the points were averaged out from that point, we would have 74 points. This is still way short. but the playoff target this season is very high and the points average doesn't take into account the injuries for almost two months to three first choice forwards. This team has the basis and with additions plus a pre season for Frazer and Gilbey, who both had bouts of Co vid, the team, with some excellent youngsters knocking on the door, could do something next season.3 -
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When we have players that actually pass forward like we did in the second half instead of sideways or back then Washington changes the dynamics of the game completely. His strength is in somebody playing the ball away from/over a defender and into space for Washington to chase, and he has a knack of getting to those balls first, often when I think he has no chance of doing so. He’s not going to score from every one of those chances but what he does do is unsettle any plan or formation the defence has and holds them back. That in turn means their midfield and attack can’t press us with impunity.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Zzzzzz first half but more entertaining second. Great to see Chuks score and thunderous header from Stockley.
Must keep Washington. Spend all summer practicing one on ones and finishing and he'll bag loads.
Good to end the (home) season on a positive note but a lot of work to do between now and 30 July (and quickly) if we want a more fruitful season next term.2 -
Actually is an interesting one to look at. If that was now, and we still had 14 games to go, with a fit squad and an improving set of results, and only 4 points off, we'd be well in the hunt for the play offs.Manic_mania said:
So... still 12th then...? Great stat !matt88 said:
Stolen from an Ipswich link, but have started the table from the day before the Sunderland away game. We’d be four points from the playoffs under Jacko.Bailey said:Looking at Jackson's record over the season, if he was in charge from the start of the season and the points were averaged out from that point, we would have 74 points. This is still way short. but the playoff target this season is very high and the points average doesn't take into account the injuries for almost two months to three first choice forwards. This team has the basis and with additions plus a pre season for Frazer and Gilbey, who both had bouts of Co vid, the team, with some excellent youngsters knocking on the door, could do something next season.
What is interesting is that we are level with Ipswich with their manager being on the receiving end of all sorts of plaudits for how he has turned their game around!
We need the club to now step up and give Jackson the resources he needs for next season (and it really should mostly be done early - allowing for 1 maybe 2 who may not become available till later) and then the fans to get behind Jackson from the off 👍6 -
Am I missing something here? How does Claire have an XG of 0.5 when all I can remember is him having a shot for 35 yards, and Washington misses two 1 on 1's but has 0.3?Scoham said:0 -
Not sure why the piss taking, just thought it was an interesting one to noteManic_mania said:
So... still 12th then...? Great stat !matt88 said:
Stolen from an Ipswich link, but have started the table from the day before the Sunderland away game. We’d be four points from the playoffs under Jacko.Bailey said:Looking at Jackson's record over the season, if he was in charge from the start of the season and the points were averaged out from that point, we would have 74 points. This is still way short. but the playoff target this season is very high and the points average doesn't take into account the injuries for almost two months to three first choice forwards. This team has the basis and with additions plus a pre season for Frazer and Gilbey, who both had bouts of Co vid, the team, with some excellent youngsters knocking on the door, could do something next season.4 -
Because these stats are pointlesscafcsinger said:
Am I missing something here? How does Claire have an XG of 0.5 when all I can remember is him having a shot for 35 yards, and Washington misses two 1 on 1's but has 0.3?Scoham said:6 -
Sorry, but saying we would have been 12th when that's exactly where we are now isn't that interesting to me. The team isn't good enough and trying to make out like we would could have been higher in the table had JJ been in charge from the start is factually incorrect, as is shown by your table. We are the quintessential mid-table team this season, in form and ability, and no re-imagining of history or what ifs are going to change that.matt88 said:
Not sure why the piss taking, just thought it was an interesting one to noteManic_mania said:
So... still 12th then...? Great stat !matt88 said:
Stolen from an Ipswich link, but have started the table from the day before the Sunderland away game. We’d be four points from the playoffs under Jacko.Bailey said:Looking at Jackson's record over the season, if he was in charge from the start of the season and the points were averaged out from that point, we would have 74 points. This is still way short. but the playoff target this season is very high and the points average doesn't take into account the injuries for almost two months to three first choice forwards. This team has the basis and with additions plus a pre season for Frazer and Gilbey, who both had bouts of Co vid, the team, with some excellent youngsters knocking on the door, could do something next season.0 -
12th with 14 games to go and 4 points off the play offs though…Manic_mania said:
Sorry, but saying we would have been 12th when that's exactly where we are now isn't that interesting to me. The team isn't good enough and trying to make out like we would could have been higher in the table had JJ been in charge from the start is factually incorrect, as is shown by your table. We are the quintessential mid-table team this season, in form and ability, and no re-imagining of history or what ifs are going to change that.matt88 said:
Not sure why the piss taking, just thought it was an interesting one to noteManic_mania said:
So... still 12th then...? Great stat !matt88 said:
Stolen from an Ipswich link, but have started the table from the day before the Sunderland away game. We’d be four points from the playoffs under Jacko.Bailey said:Looking at Jackson's record over the season, if he was in charge from the start of the season and the points were averaged out from that point, we would have 74 points. This is still way short. but the playoff target this season is very high and the points average doesn't take into account the injuries for almost two months to three first choice forwards. This team has the basis and with additions plus a pre season for Frazer and Gilbey, who both had bouts of Co vid, the team, with some excellent youngsters knocking on the door, could do something next season.0
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