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  • Just reading up on Michael Beale and he looks like a great prospect as the coach. Will Sandgaard look for a manager to go alongside him? Where does that leave Euell - academy, development and junior teams?
    We need a strong academy to feed into senior team and sell on other prospects….
    Coach to the strikers?
  • cabbles said:
    Unless it’s Thomas Franke at Brentford I can’t think of any Danish coaches that I would get excited about 

    What about Thomas Thomasberg at Randers? Yes that's his real name.
    Or……I C Berg from Norway?
  • edited May 2022
    Dizzle said:
    Can only be Wilder or Bruce. Both of which I find hard to believe would drop down to League One
    I'd love us to get Wilder. (edit: I get that he's very, very unlikely of an option)
  • Matt Taylor is a very good bloke and clearly a good manager.

    However it took him four years to rebuild Exeter and get them promoted. That might be how long it takes here too.

    Can fans be that patient? I fear for whoever is coming in next.
  • edited May 2022
    Overall I think its a good idea, yes we should get another manager. As to who that manager should be, that's a different question.
  • Rothko said:
    There are lot of sharp u-turns being done on Neil Harris, people were losing their nuts at the thought he would get the job, and I suspect a lot of the affection is built on him slagging his players off on the telly at the weekend. 
    He'd be a good fit for a number of reasons.
    1. He's an affable person.
    2. He's overcome adversity on a personal level.
    3. He'd bring stability.
    4. Recent jobs means he'd have contacts for potential signings from those clubs (Ben Thompson and Mahlon Romeo are two former players of ours that would be more than decent signings for you).
    5. He knows how to put together both a challenging for the play-offs team and also a promotion winning one.
    6. Whatever anyone thinks of his playing style, he gets the team/squad playing for each other and with tenacity and an actual shape.
    7. Isn't afraid to blood youngsters if he thinks they're good enough.
    The above are probably in a horrific order but I'm shooting from the hip here  :)
    Isn't that the exact problem TS had with Jackson.

    Plus didn't go well at Cardiff did it, I am sure our fans will be all over that one at some time.
  • would imagine the new manager will be announced in the next couple of days. TS would not have sacked Jacko on the spur of the moment without a replacement lined up. If I remember rightly, he had Adkins ready and waiting well before Bowyer went. Could be the same ting happening now. 
  • I am 100% confident that Harris is nowhere near consideration
  • Harris joined Cardiff in the November, and by the end of that season got them to fifth, a play off spot, in the Championship.
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  • I don't think I've seen one name yet that is either a) easily available or b) a potentially exciting appointment

    Matt Taylor from Exeter at a push, but it still doesn't get the juices flowing really.

    If TS doesn't have someone lined up, and the candidates being touted are the options available, then I don't hold much hope on this going well. 
  • Carly burn said:
     Convinced now that this is a rouse to bring in the players he wants without some meddling manager.
    F*******g nonsense
    Concerningly, it certainly seems that way from TS comments.

    I would have thought any rated manager would not accept having players picked for them. 

    The one or two clubs that have tried that and brought in a coach rather than manager, who has limited say over player recruitment have failed.  Certainly a couple of premiership clubs did years ago trying to mimic a European style.     
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    shirty5 said:
    shirty5 said:
    Yes but it is interesting to note the people we were talking to last year before being essentially 'forced' to employ Jackson permanently. 
    Sandgaard was not forced to pick Jackson. No one had him in a headlock. That was his own decision. 


    He himself said he was basically forced into it because of the great results and fan pressure. 

    It's a compliment to Jackson that he won himself the role, but indicates that Thomas had his eye elsewhere before the results picked up. 
    Thomas had someone lined up to replace Adkins and was talked into giving Jackson a trial spell by someone. 

    That person is no longer available. 

    Is your source reliable ?
    And how is Mr x doing in his new job ?


    Pretty reliable, Mr X is doing very nicely thank you and would have been much more warmly received than Jimmy Floyd will be. 
  • Matt Taylor is a very good bloke and clearly a good manager.

    However it took him four years to rebuild Exeter and get them promoted. That might be how long it takes here too.

    Can fans be that patient? I fear for whoever is coming in next.
    Taylor has done a good job there, but he took over a decent side - 4th and 5th in the 2 season before he took over. And Exeter is a well run and stable club with an excellent academy, at L2 level you'd expect them to do well, it's not like getting a Morecambe or Cambridge promoted.
  • I want Gareth Ainsworth but he’s not even in the running according to the bookies.

    I’ve looked at the favourites, none of them jump out and make me say “him, I want him” to be honest, mainly because I don’t know much about Beale and others seem merry go round managers.  

    So I’ve gone with Ainsworth as my choice, I think we need someone who will shore things up a bit, someone who knows how to win games ugly if necessary, this man did this to us twice this season and has got out this league before.

    Of course this all depends on Wycombe failing miserably in the playoffs.
  • Genuinely would go for Mick McCarthy. People will say old school and should retire, but only 63 (don't be ageist), promotion at Sunderland and Wolves, play off with Ipswich, did ok with Cardiff. Somehow made ROI competitive and always come across as honest and engaging. I think young and hungry always sounds great on paper, but IMHO he'd command respect and discipline.
  • Genuinely would go for Mick McCarthy. People will say old school and should retire, but only 63 (don't be ageist), promotion at Sunderland and Wolves, play off with Ipswich, did ok with Cardiff. Somehow made ROI competitive and always come across as honest and engaging. I think young and hungry always sounds great on paper, but IMHO he'd command respect and discipline.
    Thats the last type of person Sandgaard would be looking at imo
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  • If Wilder does agree to come, we have to be careful that nobody on here advises him against coming or he will change his mind!
  • Michael Beale seems like the perfect 'head coach' in TS's mind. 

    Can be given players and adapt to make them the best they can be. Excellent coaching credentials and has a lot of credibility throughout the football world of being an excellent coach. 

    However, what looks good on paper usually never goes as well in reality. Lack of management experience can make a good coach fold completely (See Mr. Reed for example). 
  • Michael Beale seems like the perfect 'head coach' in TS's mind. 

    Can be given players and adapt to make them the best they can be. Excellent coaching credentials and has a lot of credibility throughout the football world of being an excellent coach. 

    However, what looks good on paper usually never goes as well in reality. Lack of management experience can make a good coach fold completely (See Mr. Reed for example). 
    Yeah excellent example in Les Reed, even Sammy Lee... We won't know if we dont try but was only just thinking that Beale could easily end up being the perfect Assistant Manager type, but when he finally gets in the hot seat as a Manager he's shite. 

    Like you say though, if he's only going to be a Head Coach here - It might end up being the perfect scenario for him 
  • Matt Taylor is a very good bloke and clearly a good manager.

    However it took him four years to rebuild Exeter and get them promoted. That might be how long it takes here too.

    Can fans be that patient? I fear for whoever is coming in next.
    Taylor has done a good job there, but he took over a decent side - 4th and 5th in the 2 season before he took over. And Exeter is a well run and stable club with an excellent academy, at L2 level you'd expect them to do well, it's not like getting a Morecambe or Cambridge promoted.

    Though Taylor didn't have Watkins and Wheeler who scored 30 goals between them in the first of the two seasons before he took over as Manager and then Stockley (35 in 58 starts) who only played half a season under him. Randell, Williams and Bowman were then all sold last season. In fact, it could be argued that Taylor contributed to those 4th and 5th positions as he joined Exeter in the autumn of 2016 as a defensive coach and also, as under-23s manager, led Exeter to a successful Under-23 Premier League Cup campaign. 
  • Carlos Fandango OR Frey Bentos.

    I will accept no others!
  • Jayajosh said:
    Roy Hodgson? Leaving Watford this summer.
    Bring back post flagging pls
  • Am I missing something, do people genuinely think we could get the likes of Dyche, Wilder etc as manager, or Beale as a first team coach under someone else....?

    What magic pull do you think a mid-table League One club has?

    We haven't played in the Premier League in 15 years.
    We don't have a particularly rich, unlimited funds type owner.
    We don't own our own stadium.
    We're about to stick the first team in temporary buildings as we don't want to build on a training ground we don't own.
    Living in London is expensive so your wages don't go as far.

    Same as last time when people thought we'd get Howe, how and why?!
    We're a sleeping giant mate






    ;)
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