Just reading up on Michael Beale and he looks like a great prospect as the coach. Will Sandgaard look for a manager to go alongside him? Where does that leave Euell - academy, development and junior teams? We need a strong academy to feed into senior team and sell on other prospects….
Just reading up on Michael Beale and he looks like a great prospect as the coach. Will Sandgaard look for a manager to go alongside him? Where does that leave Euell - academy, development and junior teams? We need a strong academy to feed into senior team and sell on other prospects….
He's an assistant manager at a Premier League team, why would he come to us as a coach working alongside a manager?
I'm barely convinced he'd take the top job for us let alone essentially the same job he has bur two leagues lower?!
There are lot of sharp u-turns being done on Neil Harris, people were losing their nuts at the thought he would get the job, and I suspect a lot of the affection is built on him slagging his players off on the telly at the weekend.
He'd be a good fit for a number of reasons.
1. He's an affable person.
2. He's overcome adversity on a personal level.
3. He'd bring stability.
4. Recent jobs means he'd have contacts for potential signings from those clubs (Ben Thompson and Mahlon Romeo are two former players of ours that would be more than decent signings for you).
5. He knows how to put together both a challenging for the play-offs team and also a promotion winning one.
6. Whatever anyone thinks of his playing style, he gets the team/squad playing for each other and with tenacity and an actual shape.
7. Isn't afraid to blood youngsters if he thinks they're good enough.
The above are probably in a horrific order but I'm shooting from the hip here
Isn't that the exact problem TS had with Jackson.
Plus didn't go well at Cardiff did it, I am sure our fans will be all over that one at some time.
would imagine the new manager will be announced in the next couple of days. TS would not have sacked Jacko on the spur of the moment without a replacement lined up. If I remember rightly, he had Adkins ready and waiting well before Bowyer went. Could be the same ting happening now.
Convinced now that this is a rouse to bring in the players he wants without some meddling manager. F*******g nonsense
Concerningly, it certainly seems that way from TS comments.
I would have thought any rated manager would not accept having players picked for them.
The one or two clubs that have tried that and brought in a coach rather than manager, who has limited say over player recruitment have failed. Certainly a couple of premiership clubs did years ago trying to mimic a European style.
Just reading up on Michael Beale and he looks like a great prospect as the coach. Will Sandgaard look for a manager to go alongside him? Where does that leave Euell - academy, development and junior teams? We need a strong academy to feed into senior team and sell on other prospects….
Beale is Gerrard’s assistant. If he leaves Villa it’s to be a manager/head coach.
Matt Taylor is a very good bloke and clearly a good manager.
However it took him four years to rebuild Exeter and get them promoted. That might be how long it takes here too.
Can fans be that patient? I fear for whoever is coming in next.
Taylor has done a good job there, but he took over a decent side - 4th and 5th in the 2 season before he took over. And Exeter is a well run and stable club with an excellent academy, at L2 level you'd expect them to do well, it's not like getting a Morecambe or Cambridge promoted.
I would be quite excited by Beale. He is very highly regarded in better football than what we play in. I'd like him as Head Coach, but that means the non-playing side and recruitment has to be absolutely spot on. I just don't see that happening any time soon.
I want Gareth Ainsworth but he’s not even in the running according to the bookies.
I’ve looked at the favourites, none of them jump out and make me say “him, I want him” to be honest, mainly because I don’t know much about Beale and others seem merry go round managers.
So I’ve gone with Ainsworth as my choice, I think we need someone who will shore things up a bit, someone who knows how to win games ugly if necessary, this man did this to us twice this season and has got out this league before.
Of course this all depends on Wycombe failing miserably in the playoffs.
Genuinely would go for Mick McCarthy. People will say old school and should retire, but only 63 (don't be ageist), promotion at Sunderland and Wolves, play off with Ipswich, did ok with Cardiff. Somehow made ROI competitive and always come across as honest and engaging. I think young and hungry always sounds great on paper, but IMHO he'd command respect and discipline.
Genuinely would go for Mick McCarthy. People will say old school and should retire, but only 63 (don't be ageist), promotion at Sunderland and Wolves, play off with Ipswich, did ok with Cardiff. Somehow made ROI competitive and always come across as honest and engaging. I think young and hungry always sounds great on paper, but IMHO he'd command respect and discipline.
Thats the last type of person Sandgaard would be looking at imo
Michael Beale seems like the perfect 'head coach' in TS's mind.
Can be given players and adapt to make them the best they can be. Excellent coaching credentials and has a lot of credibility throughout the football world of being an excellent coach.
However, what looks good on paper usually never goes as well in reality. Lack of management experience can make a good coach fold completely (See Mr. Reed for example).
Michael Beale seems like the perfect 'head coach' in TS's mind.
Can be given players and adapt to make them the best they can be. Excellent coaching credentials and has a lot of credibility throughout the football world of being an excellent coach.
However, what looks good on paper usually never goes as well in reality. Lack of management experience can make a good coach fold completely (See Mr. Reed for example).
Yeah excellent example in Les Reed, even Sammy Lee... We won't know if we dont try but was only just thinking that Beale could easily end up being the perfect Assistant Manager type, but when he finally gets in the hot seat as a Manager he's shite.
Like you say though, if he's only going to be a Head Coach here - It might end up being the perfect scenario for him
Matt Taylor is a very good bloke and clearly a good manager.
However it took him four years to rebuild Exeter and get them promoted. That might be how long it takes here too.
Can fans be that patient? I fear for whoever is coming in next.
Taylor has done a good job there, but he took over a decent side - 4th and 5th in the 2 season before he took over. And Exeter is a well run and stable club with an excellent academy, at L2 level you'd expect them to do well, it's not like getting a Morecambe or Cambridge promoted.
Though Taylor didn't have Watkins and Wheeler who scored 30 goals between them in the first of the two seasons before he took over as Manager and then Stockley (35 in 58 starts) who only played half a season under him. Randell, Williams and Bowman were then all sold last season. In fact, it could be argued that Taylor contributed to those 4th and 5th positions as he joined Exeter in the autumn of 2016 as a defensive coach and also, as under-23s manager, led Exeter to a successful Under-23 Premier League Cup campaign.
Am I missing something, do people genuinely think we could get the likes of Dyche, Wilder, Farke, Warne etc as manager, or Beale as a first team coach under someone else....?
What magic pull do you think a mid-table League One club has?
We haven't played in the Premier League in 15 years. We don't have a particularly rich, unlimited funds type owner. We don't own our own stadium. That stadium is half empty. We literally can't give away tickets (well, we can, but no one uses them). We're about to stick the first team in temporary buildings as we don't want to build on a training ground we don't own. Living in London is expensive so your wages don't go as far.
Same as last time when people thought we'd get Howe, how and why?!
Am I missing something, do people genuinely think we could get the likes of Dyche, Wilder etc as manager, or Beale as a first team coach under someone else....?
What magic pull do you think a mid-table League One club has?
We haven't played in the Premier League in 15 years. We don't have a particularly rich, unlimited funds type owner. We don't own our own stadium. We're about to stick the first team in temporary buildings as we don't want to build on a training ground we don't own. Living in London is expensive so your wages don't go as far.
Same as last time when people thought we'd get Howe, how and why?!
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I'm barely convinced he'd take the top job for us let alone essentially the same job he has bur two leagues lower?!
However it took him four years to rebuild Exeter and get them promoted. That might be how long it takes here too.
Can fans be that patient? I fear for whoever is coming in next.
Plus didn't go well at Cardiff did it, I am sure our fans will be all over that one at some time.
Matt Taylor from Exeter at a push, but it still doesn't get the juices flowing really.
If TS doesn't have someone lined up, and the candidates being touted are the options available, then I don't hold much hope on this going well.
I would have thought any rated manager would not accept having players picked for them.
The one or two clubs that have tried that and brought in a coach rather than manager, who has limited say over player recruitment have failed. Certainly a couple of premiership clubs did years ago trying to mimic a European style.
Of course this all depends on Wycombe failing miserably in the playoffs.
Can be given players and adapt to make them the best they can be. Excellent coaching credentials and has a lot of credibility throughout the football world of being an excellent coach.
However, what looks good on paper usually never goes as well in reality. Lack of management experience can make a good coach fold completely (See Mr. Reed for example).
Like you say though, if he's only going to be a Head Coach here - It might end up being the perfect scenario for him
Though Taylor didn't have Watkins and Wheeler who scored 30 goals between them in the first of the two seasons before he took over as Manager and then Stockley (35 in 58 starts) who only played half a season under him. Randell, Williams and Bowman were then all sold last season. In fact, it could be argued that Taylor contributed to those 4th and 5th positions as he joined Exeter in the autumn of 2016 as a defensive coach and also, as under-23s manager, led Exeter to a successful Under-23 Premier League Cup campaign.
I will accept no others!
What magic pull do you think a mid-table League One club has?
We haven't played in the Premier League in 15 years.
We don't have a particularly rich, unlimited funds type owner.
We don't own our own stadium.
That stadium is half empty.
We literally can't give away tickets (well, we can, but no one uses them).
We're about to stick the first team in temporary buildings as we don't want to build on a training ground we don't own.
Living in London is expensive so your wages don't go as far.
Same as last time when people thought we'd get Howe, how and why?!