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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • Clearly there is no reason to go down the road that anybody is telling bare faced lies, either Rich, the other Journos, even Thomas and his misses, Garner must be a deal in itself, I feel that the sticking point may be the backup staff that are "rumoured" to be also in the mix.
    Now we all know how Thomas works, it is all me me me, and what i say goes, so, the "complete deal", including all the hangers on, compo hasn't been finalised yet, hence the denials, they look at it as a package deal, and until all the pieces are in place, they will carry on denying everything.
    So, sorry to say this but it is WIOTOS, it will be a big photoshoot with all the protagonists present and Thomas in the middle giving it large like he always does..
  • Quantum physics can explain the situation very simply. At any given moment Garner has both signed and not signed. The more he has signed the less he has signed and obviously vice versa. I don’t get all the confusion. 
    So Garner has a cat
    He keeps it in a box
  • Relax folks.
    It’s creativity.
    A mash up between a managerial appointment and the Okey Cokey.

    Next season look forward to a mega mix of the crossbar challenge whilst playing the tuba.
  • Look

    It's Garner.

    They want Garner.

    Garner wants to come. 

    It's nearly all done.

    But it's not quite all done.

    There are bits of the deal still to be done.

    So it's not all done.

    TS and RM haven't said it's NOT Garner.

    They haven't dismissed, denied or distanced the club from Garner.

    When and if it has ALL been finalised ie ALL the coaches contracts signed and ALL the compensation to Swindon agreed then it will be done.

    And when and if that happens it will be on the official site.

    It's Sunday, enjoy yourselves, we only have one go at life then we die and are no more so as the song reminds us...

    Live, love, laugh and for fecks sake be happy.

    You took the words right up of my mouth. Relax, everyone. We’ll have a new manager / coach his week and we can all get on with our lives. This appointment flexed me at first but now I’m easy with the bloke. Now looking forward to the new season and reconsidering my decision not to renew my ST
  • https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ben-garner-opens-up-very-5378191

    Reading this Garner felt he wasn't given enough time at Bristol Rovers.

    I wonder if the fans will give him time if it starts badly or indeed if TS will. 


    It will take a lot of time to get Lavelle and Purrington passing out from the back 
  • Quantum physics can explain the situation very simply. At any given moment Garner has both signed and not signed. The more he has signed the less he has signed and obviously vice versa. I don’t get all the confusion. 
    So Garner has a cat
    He keeps it in a box

    Please don't tell the RSPCA   :#
  • So, sorry to say this but it is WIOTOS, it will be a big photoshoot with all the protagonists present and Thomas in the middle giving it large like he always does..
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/605321c7de27c/charlton-appoint-nigel-adkins-as-manager
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/61bc776d49038/johnnie-jackson-appointed-as-the-clubs-permanent-manager
  • Clarky said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    shirty5 said:
    shirty5 said:
    Her post doesn't mean Garner isn't signing. Cawley says he's agreed a 2 year deal. She says that's not correct. Doesn't mean he isn't signing, it could mean that he's agreed a 3 year deal!
    Whatever the reason is, it now just winds everybody up and no one knows what is going on. 

    Would have been for the best if Mrs Sandgaard had not said a thing and we would have found out early this week what’s being announced. 

    Can’t understand why she would do that. 
    But if she knows the information to be false, then why can't she say anything? She's certainly closer to the deal makers than Cawley is.
    Then do it through the official club channels. 
    For me it’s mainly the ambiguity of the statement. A tweet saying ‘Understand this not to be correct’ sounds like something you would hear RonnieMoore write on here.
    It was in response to Cawley saying:
    "Understand that to be correct"

    Could be any one detail that is incorrect, term, salary, structure etc

    I have a feeling neither TS or Mrs TS appreciate Cawley reaching out to leaks in the club rather than contacting direct.
    It’s amateurish. If they have an issue with anything Rich puts out they can very easily contact him privately or they can publish a statement via the club setting the record straight if necessary.

    This smacks of “we’ll decide what is said and when” and that’s a battle they will never win.

    More important, if you’re “still interviewing” five weeks after your own decision to remove the manager I’d suggest you have a bigger problem.
    It is amateurish but so are some journalists, Nixon springs to mind. If Cawley is wrong, and I say if, then I don't care how he is told. Why should a journalist who gets something wrong have to be told in private? He put it out there and if it factual incorrect then why should he escape criticism?
    Funny how other clubs don’t have the chairman’s partner or family members disputing tweets by journalists then. Can you imagine Mrs Parish or Mrs Berylson - if they exist - commenting on their club’s next manager?

    We can all decide how we communicate but to respond in public to a reporter with whom the club - and the owner - have an open line of communication and a good working relationship is a put down and an unnecessary one - it also opens Raelynn up to further ridicule if and when the story turns out to be substantively true.

    I agree it would be better if she hadn't said anything, and I also agree that the club has an open line of communication with Cawley, although it seems less than it used to be. In this instance it would appear that he didn't get his information from the owner and it is possible it came from the Swindon end but their/owner club haven't made any statements about Garner either!
    I have absolutely no doubt whatever way this pans out TS, his son and partner will continue to be criticised by an element of our fan base whatever they do, so I am not going to be upset by a one line put down to a reporter who it would appear didnt get his information from an official source and what may or may not be correct.
    I will add that I have not seen Cawley respond so he is acting professionally but then I suppose there are plenty speaking on his behalf.
  • It’s given everyone something else to talk about of course on the upside. 

    I do think it’s inconsequential in the grand scheme of things more. We are a 3rd division team and barely get a mention in the sports media reports these days. Amateur or unprofessional possibly but given we are a very small club currently  it’s entertaining however some news emerges. 

    Rich Cawley is a local journalist and doesn’t seem to me at least, to have huge advance insight in news at CAFC, only what he is given modestly in advance. I may have this wrong but don’t detect a huge network of inside information more than picking up what others have also heard. 


    This is just rubbish. It’s not how local football  journalism works - there are multiple ways you get information, some of them official, some authorised, some not authorised, some external, some third party, some just luck. The longer you are involved the more contacts you build.

    The club will always have stories that it keeps to itself or just issues a heads up to selected parties - I do it myself in another context - but the idea of Cawley just sitting and waiting for the phone to ring is nonsense.
    I didn’t imply that. 

    I said I don’t interpret a huge inside network. That was all. 

     
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  • The whole saga is just reflecting how amateurish TS approach to running a football club is.Its a car crash 

    RD thought he knew better and TS seems similar( in a different way )..TS is digging a hole that's getting deeper by the minute..I fear for the future I really do 









  • So, sorry to say this but it is WIOTOS, it will be a big photoshoot with all the protagonists present and Thomas in the middle giving it large like he always does..
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/605321c7de27c/charlton-appoint-nigel-adkins-as-manager
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/61bc776d49038/johnnie-jackson-appointed-as-the-clubs-permanent-manager
    Don't put facts in the way mate
  • So, sorry to say this but it is WIOTOS, it will be a big photoshoot with all the protagonists present and Thomas in the middle giving it large like he always does..
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/605321c7de27c/charlton-appoint-nigel-adkins-as-manager
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/61bc776d49038/johnnie-jackson-appointed-as-the-clubs-permanent-manager
    Thomas wasn't even in the country when either of them were announced was he?
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    Didn't something similar happen with the signing of Sam Lavelle? 

    We pretty much had the deal tied up but then kept him waiting as we was enquiring on another target then that fell though so we signed Sam last minute. 

    It all seems a bit chaotic to me that we might have a agreement with Ben in some sorts but we are still potentially looking for someone higher profile maybe but have Ben if we can't? 
  • LouisMend said:
    Sue Perkins is a Charlton fan for what it’s worth 
    Thought it was her Dad who was the fan.
    Not sure she’s into football tbh.
  • No deal is done till it’s done. Didn’t the journalist from Swindon say that the assistant coaches where being interviewed on Skype?
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    LouisMend said:
    Sue Perkins is a Charlton fan for what it’s worth 

    Thanks for that exclusive @LouisMend but any information on our latest manager; a cryptic clue in the style of Doctor Raelynn Maloney will do on this grey damp morning.
  • AddickRam said:
    Didn't something similar happen with the signing of Sam Lavelle? 

    We pretty much had the deal tied up but then kept him waiting as we was enquiring on another target then that fell though so we signed Sam last minute. 

    It all seems a bit chaotic to me that we might have a agreement with Ben in some sorts but we are still potentially looking for someone higher profile maybe but have Ben if we can't? 
    That’s what I’m guessing or that we haven’t made our mind up yet. And the story has come out because Swindon have leaked it as they want clarity for themselves. And we have done all the negotiation and compensation so that we can move quickly if we do decide to go with Garner 
  • Didn’t Cawley think of asking any supplementary questions to clarify things? I think most of us assumed that everything is tied up other than the agreeing compensation with Swindon for the back room staff, and when that has been done he will formally sign the contract.
    If he didn’t ask any follow up questions he is not much of a journalist, but maybe the answers would not have got the same response. Now that is what a good journalist would do. One like Cawley.


  • Anyway, this thread summed up in a meme 
  • wmcf123 said:
    https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ben-garner-opens-up-very-5378191

    Reading this Garner felt he wasn't given enough time at Bristol Rovers.

    I wonder if the fans will give him time if it starts badly or indeed if TS will. 


    It will take a lot of time to get Lavelle and Purrington passing out from the back 
    Agreed.

    Its the old adage 'you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear'.  


        
  • AddickRam said:
    Didn't something similar happen with the signing of Sam Lavelle? 

    We pretty much had the deal tied up but then kept him waiting as we was enquiring on another target then that fell though so we signed Sam last minute. 

    It all seems a bit chaotic to me that we might have a agreement with Ben in some sorts but we are still potentially looking for someone higher profile maybe but have Ben if we can't? 
    or trying to get someone cheaper
  • It's probably a two year deal subject to meeting performance based targets, not just a straight two years. Garner has had success with the support of his coaching team - what if they fail  the Skype interview?
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