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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • Dazzler21 said:
    shirty5 said:
    shirty5 said:
    Her post doesn't mean Garner isn't signing. Cawley says he's agreed a 2 year deal. She says that's not correct. Doesn't mean he isn't signing, it could mean that he's agreed a 3 year deal!
    Whatever the reason is, it now just winds everybody up and no one knows what is going on. 

    Would have been for the best if Mrs Sandgaard had not said a thing and we would have found out early this week what’s being announced. 

    Can’t understand why she would do that. 
    But if she knows the information to be false, then why can't she say anything? She's certainly closer to the deal makers than Cawley is.
    Then do it through the official club channels. 
    For me it’s mainly the ambiguity of the statement. A tweet saying ‘Understand this not to be correct’ sounds like something you would hear RonnieMoore write on here.
    It was in response to Cawley saying:
    "Understand that to be correct"

    Could be any one detail that is incorrect, term, salary, structure etc

    I have a feeling neither TS or Mrs TS appreciate Cawley reaching out to leaks in the club rather than contacting direct.
    It’s amateurish. If they have an issue with anything Rich puts out they can very easily contact him privately or they can publish a statement via the club setting the record straight if necessary.

    This smacks of “we’ll decide what is said and when” and that’s a battle they will never win.

    More important, if you’re “still interviewing” five weeks after your own decision to remove the manager I’d suggest you have a bigger problem.
    Just suppose an earlier target from the A list that for whatever reason didn’t happen suddenly came back into view as a possibility ? What would you do as the owner, follow that avenue to see where it leads or let it drop. Nothing it would appear has ink on it so until it has either party can walk away. This is without doubt the most important appointment in Charltons recent history. Sandgaard has to get this right or at least be a thorough as is possible. Far too many people are being critical and those self same people will find fault whatever the outcome. 
    Or...they really want Garner, have spent weeks smoozing him, but he’s not quite over the line yet. Then someone leaks that he’s signed and it’s a done deal and they’re worried it looks like it’s come from inside the club. Rather than spook Garner away they throw enough water on the fire for it to die down so the talks can continue smoothly. 
  • Ok very confused now if it was close surely garner is thinking what the fuck …. 
  • Ok very confused now if it was close surely garner is thinking what the fuck …. 
    I honestly think TS just wants to control it
  • cabbles said:
    WSS said:
    A brief pause ensues while people formulate how to criticise this statement. 
    I read and thought, don’t a lot of the leaks emanate from these individuals TS chooses to share things via LinkedIn from though?  

    Ie, they can’t have it both ways 

    What leaks have come from LinkedIn? All he said on there was we were still interviewing? 
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  • Ok very confused now if it was close surely garner is thinking what the fuck …. 
    The key line is "Because of the nature of negotiations, the club are limited with how much detail can be communicated"

    It's a protracted negotiation period, Garner is clearly aware that's ongoing.

    The issue is that negotiations don't normally take this long. Looks like a game of chicken between TS and the Swindon chairman on the compo, with both clubs needing to get their pre season arrangements going. However, it also appears both clubs are already planning for the switch - Garner has discussed recruitment with Gallen already, and Swindon are actively looking for a new manager.

    While pre season hasn't actually begun yet, neither club needs to blink. And I suspect both TS and his wife are putting out denials to make it appear we have other options and won't be held over a barrel.

    Either TS is getting tighter with his funds after Zynex stock falling, or he hasn't seen the harm in protracting it out a little longer. Either way, it does appear that next week will be the end game on this saga.
  • Ok very confused now if it was close surely garner is thinking what the fuck …. 
    The key line is "Because of the nature of negotiations, the club are limited with how much detail can be communicated"

    It's a protracted negotiation period, Garner is clearly aware that's ongoing.

    The issue is that negotiations don't normally take this long. Looks like a game of chicken between TS and the Swindon chairman on the compo, with both clubs needing to get their pre season arrangements going. However, it also appears both clubs are already planning for the switch - Garner has discussed recruitment with Gallen already, and Swindon are actively looking for a new manager.

    While pre season hasn't actually begun yet, neither club needs to blink. And I suspect both TS and his wife are putting out denials to make it appear we have other options and won't be held over a barrel.

    Either TS is getting tighter with his funds after Zynex stock falling, or he hasn't seen the harm in protracting it out a little longer. Either way, it does appear that next week will be the end game on this saga.

    Although Cawley says compensation with Swindon has been agreed - maybe that was just for Garner?

    The sticking point appears to be whether Garner is coming alone or with his coaching staff. 
  • Ok very confused now if it was close surely garner is thinking what the fuck …. 
    The key line is "Because of the nature of negotiations, the club are limited with how much detail can be communicated"

    It's a protracted negotiation period, Garner is clearly aware that's ongoing.

    The issue is that negotiations don't normally take this long. Looks like a game of chicken between TS and the Swindon chairman on the compo, with both clubs needing to get their pre season arrangements going. However, it also appears both clubs are already planning for the switch - Garner has discussed recruitment with Gallen already, and Swindon are actively looking for a new manager.

    While pre season hasn't actually begun yet, neither club needs to blink. And I suspect both TS and his wife are putting out denials to make it appear we have other options and won't be held over a barrel.

    Either TS is getting tighter with his funds after Zynex stock falling, or he hasn't seen the harm in protracting it out a little longer. Either way, it does appear that next week will be the end game on this saga.

    Although Cawley says compensation with Swindon has been agreed - maybe that was just for Garner?

    The sticking point appears to be whether Garner is coming alone or with his coaching staff. 
    Yes could be the compo for his coaching staff/or Garner himself, but clearly this is the hold up.

    Cawley obviously got his info from the Swindon side, and they've likely briefed him with a version that intensifies the pressure on TS, as it has.
  • Ok very confused now if it was close surely garner is thinking what the fuck …. 
    The key line is "Because of the nature of negotiations, the club are limited with how much detail can be communicated"

    It's a protracted negotiation period, Garner is clearly aware that's ongoing.

    The issue is that negotiations don't normally take this long. Looks like a game of chicken between TS and the Swindon chairman on the compo, with both clubs needing to get their pre season arrangements going. However, it also appears both clubs are already planning for the switch - Garner has discussed recruitment with Gallen already, and Swindon are actively looking for a new manager.

    While pre season hasn't actually begun yet, neither club needs to blink. And I suspect both TS and his wife are putting out denials to make it appear we have other options and won't be held over a barrel.

    Either TS is getting tighter with his funds after Zynex stock falling, or he hasn't seen the harm in protracting it out a little longer. Either way, it does appear that next week will be the end game on this saga.

    Although Cawley says compensation with Swindon has been agreed - maybe that was just for Garner?

    The sticking point appears to be whether Garner is coming alone or with his coaching staff. 
    Yes could be the compo for his coaching staff/or Garner himself, but clearly this is the hold up.

    Cawley obviously got his info from the Swindon side, and they've likely briefed him with a version that intensifies the pressure on TS, as it has.
    If that is the case it would have been easier if the club (via the owners relations) had kept quiet on social media as it gives far more focus to the Crawley tweet as a result 
  • So sounds like Garner is done and agreed but the coaching staff aren’t yet for whatever reason and TS wants to announce all of them at once. 
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    Years ago Chairmen kept their mouths shut, the good old days.
  • So sounds like Garner is done and agreed but the coaching staff aren’t yet for whatever reason and TS wants to announce all of them at once. 
    Or maybe Garner will only sign when his two mates do.
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  • So sounds like Garner is done and agreed but the coaching staff aren’t yet for whatever reason and TS wants to announce all of them at once. 
    Or Garner won’t join without them.
  • Sometimes it's best to say nothing.

    This has "bypass the comms team" written all over it. 

    Huh..
  • p.s.  who checks the syntax of this drivel???
  • cfgs said:
    So sounds like Garner is done and agreed but the coaching staff aren’t yet for whatever reason and TS wants to announce all of them at once. 
    Or maybe Garner will only sign when his two mates do.
    Yeh quite likely too
  • edited June 2022
    May as well lock up and turn off the lights now till official announcement made..how many more times can we go round in circles looking for "the truth"..this is getting very tiresome...🥱
  • I wonder if Garner has received a better last minute offer from another club that operates with more competency and speed with its appointments.  Sounds like it may be Chris Wilder all over again.
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    Yep, statements bickering with journalists feels very RD.
    One hell of a lot of this ownership feels very RD.
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