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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    glad it is all resolved .. welcome Ben, as I typed days ago, all the VERY best during your time at CAFC
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,906
    Swisdom said:
    Right.  So it's now official and he's come out and said how he wants to play.  I don't think there's many fans who don't want to see us play in a more attractive manner.  To see us play with players who are confident of having the ball.  Players who actually want the ball.

    All we, as fans, need to remember is there will be times it doesn't work.  There will be times we concede goals from "fucking about with it" and times where we won't just "knock it forwards" but as BG himself has said, we want to change the ethos of the club and to play like this throughout the ages groups.  The U18's particularly play nice and neat football and take the occasional risks and anyone who has seen them in the last couple of seasons has said how refreshing they are to watch.  Won't it be nice if the first team can replicate that!

    I particularly like the way he says we will have a style of play that is the same both home and away.  It's now going to be up to the opposition to nullify us whereas we have been far too predictable previously.  I look forward to seeing us playing it around the opponents and watching them get knackered and watching players like JFC and Fraser pulling the strings.  I also wonder if BG will be able to harness Albie Morgan and get the best value out of him

    Obviously there will need to be a number of new bodies and a change in the way the existing ones train and play but if it improves them, and us, I'm all for it.

    I'm mildly excited and hope he gets a bit of time and patience, from fans and TS alike, to deliver 
    Very well said.
    We now need to be patient and let the guy get on with the job. I must admit the thought of watching us trying to play it around at the back is giving me heart spasms already but given time Im sure we can get there and tbh anything is better than watching the hoofball we was trying to do.
  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,586
    PWADDICK said:
    Agree but definitely isn't the plan currently...
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,258
    I suspect Euell is Central to it all now. Does he stay with us under Garner, or does he seek a new challenge?
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    FAVADDICK said:
    They should be here now with Ben to be honest, why wait 
    Garner's obviously happy with how things are. 
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    ButtleJR said:
    PWADDICK said:
    Agree but definitely isn't the plan currently...
    Big red flag then, especially when they’d been mentioned as very much part of Garner’s success.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    And there’s the bit I really wanted to know. If he doesn’t get them in then that’s a concern for me. Garner takes job because money is good but doesn’t bring the blokes who helped make him successful. 
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,188
    BigDiddy said:
    Given BG wants to play pressing, attacking possession football [which will be great], how many of our current squad will survive this change of approach? JS will not fit into this style of play, will he?
    Should suit Connor Washington 
    Exactly !!
  • PWADDICK
    PWADDICK Posts: 526
    sam3110 said:
    I suspect Euell is Central to it all now. Does he stay with us under Garner, or does he seek a new challenge?
    I hope he leaves, just feel like we need a clean slate.
    Jackson, Skiverton and Euell for Garner, Marshall and Lindsey is ideal I'd say.
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  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,586
    edited June 2022
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  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,188
    But does BG have the players required to do what Bowyer did?

    I don’t think so, but will TS give him the money for a total rebuild?


  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    ButtleJR said:
    PWADDICK said:
    Agree but definitely isn't the plan currently...
    It’ll no doubt be Garner’s plan. Sandgaard probably thinks he knows better. 
  • Dippenhall
    Dippenhall Posts: 3,919
    Off_it said:
    I popped onto this thread to find out the "latest" and catch up on 800+ new posts.

    Read half a page and have decided not to bother with CL for the rest of the day, maybe the week. What a truly awful thread.
    You know you’ve had a crafty peek. Stop pretending you haven’t heard and give us a post.
  • PWADDICK
    PWADDICK Posts: 526
    I reckon it's just Sandgaard keeping his cards close to his chest, Swindon media still reporting discussions ongoing for the two of them
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,164
    shit appointment - "Ben Garner's Red and White Army" doesn't scan well. It will have to be Benny...

  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    edited June 2022
    The football over the past 3 seasons has been awful to watch so I'm happy we've got an attacking manager. 

    I don't think The Valley is the most patient of football crowds so I do worry the passing out the back stuff will be met with some derision and nervousness which may feed back on the players. I hope the fans can get on board with a new style. 

    Interested to see how a few current 'key' players fit into this possession play, particularly ones who struggle with the ball at their feet.  

    I hope the recruitment efforts match the manager. 
    If we're just signing random 'good' players the data identifies and not players to fit Garner's system, it will be another crap season.
  • He's got the role.  Hopefully he is given the tools and the freedom to deliver his philosophy. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Morgan might benefit from a "coaching" manager. I imagine someone like Henry could get a few games as well.
  • DDOUBLEE
    DDOUBLEE Posts: 1,473
    Morgan might benefit from a "coaching" manager. I imagine someone like Henry could get a few games as well.
    If Morgan still doesn't improve under this type of coach then it will be time to get rid
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  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,699
    DDOUBLEE said:
    Morgan might benefit from a "coaching" manager. I imagine someone like Henry could get a few games as well.
    If Morgan still doesn't improve under this type of coach then it will be time to get rid
    Too late for that. If he hasnt for improved thus far it isnt going to happen anytime soon. 
  • Billyboy
    Billyboy Posts: 518
    ButtleJR said:
    PWADDICK said:
    Agree but definitely isn't the plan currently...
    It will be adkins all over again if he can't have his own backroom staff in.
  • philcafc
    philcafc Posts: 3,883
    Welcome Ben, good luck to you.
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,783
    Ben's interview is just over 7 minutes long.........................Sandgaard's interview discussing it is over 12 minutes long. 

    I expected nothing less  ;)
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    mart77 said:
    ButtleJR said:
    PWADDICK said:
    Agree but definitely isn't the plan currently...
    Big red flag then, especially when they’d been mentioned as very much part of Garner’s success.
    Stop being alarmist. It really is not a red flag, it is probably just negotiation anyway.

    Spin it round and look at things from Swindon Towns perspective. They will now be trying to recruit a manager who will no doubt want to bring his back room boys in with him. What are they going to do with the coaches in place at the moment? Pay them off?

    Getting rid without having to pay up their contracts then looks a good option. The less paid to Swindon the better IMO and the pressure is now all on them now that Garner has actually signed.

    I am not convinced we need both either. I personally would not like JE binned as I think he is a talented coach.
  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    ButtleJR said:
    PWADDICK said:
    Agree but definitely isn't the plan currently...
    It’ll no doubt be Garner’s plan. Sandgaard probably thinks he knows better. 
    Surely TS knows that anonymous posters on Charlton Life are the greatest source of wisdom.
  • Rossman92
    Rossman92 Posts: 3,650
    If the last week or so has taught us anything, is that if something is happening behind the scenes, TS is gonna downplay it. BG’s assistants could be on the next train to Charlton and TS wouldn’t reveal it, just wait and see what happens.

    Please
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    Swindon will bring someone else in and they’ll be free to leave would be my bet 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Super Ben's Red and White Army
    Baldy Bens Red and White Army ?
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    Rebuilds take time. 

    This is year one. If we have a decent playing style and look like we know what we're doing by the end of the year I will be happy. 

    People demanding promotion on day one of Ben being in the role don't really have a clue about the mountain he's facing. Trying to rebuild the club which hasn't really had any changes since the Bowyer days. 
    If he gets us promoted on his first day I will be really impressed.