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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)
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Ron Atkinson2
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probably agents having a larf .. at least I hope so0
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All pointing to Warburton I think.6
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my concern is that Warburton might be another Slade/Adkins .. shopworn, tired and just a wee bit of a yesterday's manAddick_8 said:All pointing to Warburton I think.2 -
The manager supplies SG with his targets and his team ( including MS) do their homework on each player .. then it’s down to SG to get the deal done with the agents and club …Gravesend_Addick said:Sandgaard's comments since the announcement worry me. He's getting too involved in the running of the team.Talking about high press & defensive blocks like he knows what he's talking about.It's a worrying sign.The recruitment strategy worries me too. Don't think the manager has much say. I cant see the club progressing until he changes his approach & starts putting the team above his own egoWhy can't we just be a normal football club??
TS is only saying what majority of fans said about Jackson style of play but as he said he has no interest in telling the manager what to do
Jason Euell and SG are looking after first team affairs until new manager / Head Coach is appointed
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Actually Lee Bowyer does as well. Not that I am suggesting its a go'er.ForeverAddickted said:
Mark Warburton fits that bill - The only one who really does from the oddsNomadicAddick said:
So I said to we should get someone who can get us out of the league and who has Champ experience (just my opinion) and he replied with 'Yes, makes sense'.Scoham said:
Urgh. So Beale, Taylor etc ruled out. Why not get someone on the up with fresh ideas rather than another Adkins who’s probably past his best?NomadicAddick said:TS is surprised by the amount of applicants already and feels this means the club is in a much better state already and is more attractive proposition than it was a year ago. He also agrees that we need a manager who has experience of the level we want to get to (champ) rather than just league 1 or below. He also says it will be a little while before a new manager is announced, at least 2 weeks.Assuming it’s true we’re ruling out those who could potentially develop into great managers in the future because we want someone who’s not managed to keep themselves in a job at a higher level.
Just a theory (a bit like "You cant sign Out of Contract players till 1st July" so take with a pinch of salt)
But if we go for someone like Warburton or Beale, I wonder if we'll have to wait until their last game of the season is done and out the way, before we hear an announcement.2 -
That confirms that the person he wants is with another club …Addick_8 said:
Source?NomadicAddick said:TS is surprised by the amount of applicants already and feels this means the club is in a much better state already and is more attractive proposition than it was a year ago. He also agrees that we need a manager who has experience of the level we want to get to (champ) rather than just league 1 or below. He also says it will be a little while before a new manager is announced, at least 2 weeks.0 -
Maybe we should ask him if he has placed a bet yet.Gravesend_Addick said:Get the feeling from Cawley's tweets that he already knows who it is1 -
Bowyer plays the opposite of dynamic, fluid, possession based football.StrikerFirmani said:
Actually Lee Bowyer does as well. Not that I am suggesting its a go'er.ForeverAddickted said:
Mark Warburton fits that bill - The only one who really does from the oddsNomadicAddick said:
So I said to we should get someone who can get us out of the league and who has Champ experience (just my opinion) and he replied with 'Yes, makes sense'.Scoham said:
Urgh. So Beale, Taylor etc ruled out. Why not get someone on the up with fresh ideas rather than another Adkins who’s probably past his best?NomadicAddick said:TS is surprised by the amount of applicants already and feels this means the club is in a much better state already and is more attractive proposition than it was a year ago. He also agrees that we need a manager who has experience of the level we want to get to (champ) rather than just league 1 or below. He also says it will be a little while before a new manager is announced, at least 2 weeks.Assuming it’s true we’re ruling out those who could potentially develop into great managers in the future because we want someone who’s not managed to keep themselves in a job at a higher level.
Just a theory (a bit like "You cant sign Out of Contract players till 1st July" so take with a pinch of salt)
But if we go for someone like Warburton or Beale, I wonder if we'll have to wait until their last game of the season is done and out the way, before we hear an announcement.My feelings is it is very likely to be Warburton. He ticks all the boxes that TS is looking for, and as previously mentioned by other posters, I feel like his becoming available probably led to JJ getting the sack.2 -
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Quickley googled out of work managers.RonnieMoore said:
That confirms that the person he wants is with another club …Addick_8 said:
Source?NomadicAddick said:TS is surprised by the amount of applicants already and feels this means the club is in a much better state already and is more attractive proposition than it was a year ago. He also agrees that we need a manager who has experience of the level we want to get to (champ) rather than just league 1 or below. He also says it will be a little while before a new manager is announced, at least 2 weeks.5 -
I would not kniw where to start with trying to find a decent manager. Look at David Moyes as an example. I'd written him off a long time ago.Leuth said:
Experience of higher levels as either a coach or a manager I hope! Can't be ruling out the Beales of the world already...plus, 'experience' can be a double-edged sword, given how many have experienced and failed...NomadicAddick said:TS is surprised by the amount of applicants already and feels this means the club is in a much better state already and is more attractive proposition than it was a year ago. He also agrees that we need a manager who has experience of the level we want to get to (champ) rather than just league 1 or below. He also says it will be a little while before a new manager is announced, at least 2 weeks.3 -
I disregarded him, as he has been lucky to stay in the Championship with Birmingham, rather than push on at that level.StrikerFirmani said:
Actually Lee Bowyer does as well. Not that I am suggesting its a go'er.ForeverAddickted said:
Mark Warburton fits that bill - The only one who really does from the oddsNomadicAddick said:
So I said to we should get someone who can get us out of the league and who has Champ experience (just my opinion) and he replied with 'Yes, makes sense'.Scoham said:
Urgh. So Beale, Taylor etc ruled out. Why not get someone on the up with fresh ideas rather than another Adkins who’s probably past his best?NomadicAddick said:TS is surprised by the amount of applicants already and feels this means the club is in a much better state already and is more attractive proposition than it was a year ago. He also agrees that we need a manager who has experience of the level we want to get to (champ) rather than just league 1 or below. He also says it will be a little while before a new manager is announced, at least 2 weeks.Assuming it’s true we’re ruling out those who could potentially develop into great managers in the future because we want someone who’s not managed to keep themselves in a job at a higher level.
Just a theory (a bit like "You cant sign Out of Contract players till 1st July" so take with a pinch of salt)
But if we go for someone like Warburton or Beale, I wonder if we'll have to wait until their last game of the season is done and out the way, before we hear an announcement.
Is why I disregarded Darren Ferguson as well0 -
I don't want Warburton he is too old. He is a full year older than the average age of this years champions league finalists.
/sarcasm
I really don't buy into this yesterday's man nonsense. Some times managers have success, or failer, due to fluke circumstances. But good managers are good managers. Out of the 92 only a dozen or so can be successful at anyone time. That doesn't make the other 80 bad.
Of course there are some bad managers, of course we have had some, but most are victims of circumstances.8 -
I got shouted down, laughed at and told I was talking shite when I said TS was too involved in the team a couple of months back.Gravesend_Addick said:Sandgaard's comments since the announcement worry me. He's getting too involved in the running of the team.Talking about high press & defensive blocks like he knows what he's talking about.It's a worrying sign.The recruitment strategy worries me too. Don't think the manager has much say. I cant see the club progressing until he changes his approach & starts putting the team above his own egoWhy can't we just be a normal football club??
The same happened when I said his wife was too involved as well, watch this space on that one.0 -
She isn't the new manager is she?eaststandmike said:
I got shouted down, laughed at and told I was talking shite when I said TS was too involved in the team a couple of months back.Gravesend_Addick said:Sandgaard's comments since the announcement worry me. He's getting too involved in the running of the team.Talking about high press & defensive blocks like he knows what he's talking about.It's a worrying sign.The recruitment strategy worries me too. Don't think the manager has much say. I cant see the club progressing until he changes his approach & starts putting the team above his own egoWhy can't we just be a normal football club??
The same happened when I said his wife was too involved as well, watch this space on that one.5 -
Keen will just be his agent0
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He’s not though. Just because he’s experienced doesn’t make him yesterday’s man.Lincsaddick said:
my concern is that Warburton might be another Slade/Adkins .. shopworn, tired and just a wee bit of a yesterday's manAddick_8 said:All pointing to Warburton I think.0 -
Farke is my dream choice tbh2
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It really wouldn't surprise me at all if Boywer came backStrikerFirmani said:
Actually Lee Bowyer does as well. Not that I am suggesting its a go'er.ForeverAddickted said:
Mark Warburton fits that bill - The only one who really does from the oddsNomadicAddick said:
So I said to we should get someone who can get us out of the league and who has Champ experience (just my opinion) and he replied with 'Yes, makes sense'.Scoham said:
Urgh. So Beale, Taylor etc ruled out. Why not get someone on the up with fresh ideas rather than another Adkins who’s probably past his best?NomadicAddick said:TS is surprised by the amount of applicants already and feels this means the club is in a much better state already and is more attractive proposition than it was a year ago. He also agrees that we need a manager who has experience of the level we want to get to (champ) rather than just league 1 or below. He also says it will be a little while before a new manager is announced, at least 2 weeks.Assuming it’s true we’re ruling out those who could potentially develop into great managers in the future because we want someone who’s not managed to keep themselves in a job at a higher level.
Just a theory (a bit like "You cant sign Out of Contract players till 1st July" so take with a pinch of salt)
But if we go for someone like Warburton or Beale, I wonder if we'll have to wait until their last game of the season is done and out the way, before we hear an announcement.
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How is your old man doing?NomadicAddick said:FYI I know I am a busy c**t.0 -
After walking out on us. No thanks.CH4RLTON said:
It really wouldn't surprise me at all if Boywer came backStrikerFirmani said:
Actually Lee Bowyer does as well. Not that I am suggesting its a go'er.ForeverAddickted said:
Mark Warburton fits that bill - The only one who really does from the oddsNomadicAddick said:
So I said to we should get someone who can get us out of the league and who has Champ experience (just my opinion) and he replied with 'Yes, makes sense'.Scoham said:
Urgh. So Beale, Taylor etc ruled out. Why not get someone on the up with fresh ideas rather than another Adkins who’s probably past his best?NomadicAddick said:TS is surprised by the amount of applicants already and feels this means the club is in a much better state already and is more attractive proposition than it was a year ago. He also agrees that we need a manager who has experience of the level we want to get to (champ) rather than just league 1 or below. He also says it will be a little while before a new manager is announced, at least 2 weeks.Assuming it’s true we’re ruling out those who could potentially develop into great managers in the future because we want someone who’s not managed to keep themselves in a job at a higher level.
Just a theory (a bit like "You cant sign Out of Contract players till 1st July" so take with a pinch of salt)
But if we go for someone like Warburton or Beale, I wonder if we'll have to wait until their last game of the season is done and out the way, before we hear an announcement.0 -
I'd be surprised if Farke was available, would expect he goes to Blackburn. Although they've been linked to Philip Cocu as well.
Warburton I'm just not sure about him in the setup TS has planned , especially after how he left Brentford and the reasons behind it. Didn't he leave just before we beat them 3-0 at The Valley?
I just hope it's not a left field Scandinavian appointment , I know Thomas Frank worked for Brentford but I don't know if TS would find someone of that ilk.0 -
Warburton (or any other Manager still employed for that matter) would make sense from the perspective of what TS said about recruitment i.e. he could still have a major input even though he hadn't been announced0
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I think Warburton is a good manager but how will he get on without Eustace who is touted as the better coach at QPR and is being touted for the Watford Job.
Obviously was some difference between Adkins and Jackson.
Be interesting to ask Rangers fans who's better Beale or Warburton, I've seen that Rangers fans want Beale as a future manager continuously raving about him.0 -
A couple of months ago Warburton had taken a QPR team, who had been struggling in The Championship in lower mid table for years to I think 3rd.Lincsaddick said:
my concern is that Warburton might be another Slade/Adkins .. shopworn, tired and just a wee bit of a yesterday's manAddick_8 said:All pointing to Warburton I think.
A bit like Mowbray doing the same with Blackburn.
Both clubs were punching well above their weight and neither could maintain their wonderful form and slipped back to mid table.
When it was rumoured a month ago that Warburton was going to get the bullet, I was incredulous and thought if only we could get a manager like him, but realistically it was pie in the sky.
One month later, Warburton is indeed on his way and so is JJ.
Warburton has been successful at Brentford, Rangers & QPR, while we've been stumbling around in L1, with a brief stay in The Championship.
Warburton would be a massive upgrade on JJ and I would love it if he joined us.
I love JJ but look at his managerial CV in comparison.
No manager is a guaranteed success, but he's the best, or one of the best realistic options, in my book.14 -
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That confirms that the person he wants is with another club …Addick_8 said:
Source?NomadicAddick said:TS is surprised by the amount of applicants already and feels this means the club is in a much better state already and is more attractive proposition than it was a year ago. He also agrees that we need a manager who has experience of the level we want to get to (champ) rather than just league 1 or below. He also says it will be a little while before a new manager is announced, at least 2 weeks.
See you feck up the Champions League, next stop The Valley!0 -
I listened to this earlier. It’s from the chap who did a video with JJ about 5 months ago, as part of another channel, and who also turns out to be a QPR fan.
Of course only one fans views, but it did make me feel a little more confident about a Warburton appointment if he did end up coming to us.
https://youtu.be/QuJWqi_qwpU
Sounds like they had massive injury issues back end of the season, which contributed to their bad run.1 -
Warburton did very well at both Brentford and Rangers.
Less so during his six months at Forest and then it's been bumpy couple of years with QPR who started this season very brightly but faded away quickly.
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