TS is surprised by the amount of applicants already and feels this means the club is in a much better state already and is more attractive proposition than it was a year ago. He also agrees that we need a manager who has experience of the level we want to get to (champ) rather than just league 1 or below. He also says it will be a little while before a new manager is announced, at least 2 weeks.
Urgh. So Beale, Taylor etc ruled out. Why not get someone on the up with fresh ideas rather than another Adkins who’s probably past his best?
Assuming it’s true we’re ruling out those who could potentially develop into great managers in the future because we want someone who’s not managed to keep themselves in a job at a higher level.
So I said to we should get someone who can get us out of the league and who has Champ experience (just my opinion) and he replied with 'Yes, makes sense'.
Mark Warburton fits that bill - The only one who really does from the odds
Just a theory (a bit like "You cant sign Out of Contract players till 1st July" so take with a pinch of salt)
But if we go for someone like Warburton or Beale, I wonder if we'll have to wait until their last game of the season is done and out the way, before we hear an announcement.
Actually Lee Bowyer does as well. Not that I am suggesting its a go'er.
It really wouldn't surprise me at all if Boywer came back
TS is surprised by the amount of applicants already and feels this means the club is in a much better state already and is more attractive proposition than it was a year ago. He also agrees that we need a manager who has experience of the level we want to get to (champ) rather than just league 1 or below. He also says it will be a little while before a new manager is announced, at least 2 weeks.
Urgh. So Beale, Taylor etc ruled out. Why not get someone on the up with fresh ideas rather than another Adkins who’s probably past his best?
Assuming it’s true we’re ruling out those who could potentially develop into great managers in the future because we want someone who’s not managed to keep themselves in a job at a higher level.
So I said to we should get someone who can get us out of the league and who has Champ experience (just my opinion) and he replied with 'Yes, makes sense'.
Mark Warburton fits that bill - The only one who really does from the odds
Just a theory (a bit like "You cant sign Out of Contract players till 1st July" so take with a pinch of salt)
But if we go for someone like Warburton or Beale, I wonder if we'll have to wait until their last game of the season is done and out the way, before we hear an announcement.
Actually Lee Bowyer does as well. Not that I am suggesting its a go'er.
It really wouldn't surprise me at all if Boywer came back
I'd be surprised if Farke was available, would expect he goes to Blackburn. Although they've been linked to Philip Cocu as well.
Warburton I'm just not sure about him in the setup TS has planned , especially after how he left Brentford and the reasons behind it. Didn't he leave just before we beat them 3-0 at The Valley?
I just hope it's not a left field Scandinavian appointment , I know Thomas Frank worked for Brentford but I don't know if TS would find someone of that ilk.
Warburton (or any other Manager still employed for that matter) would make sense from the perspective of what TS said about recruitment i.e. he could still have a major input even though he hadn't been announced
I think Warburton is a good manager but how will he get on without Eustace who is touted as the better coach at QPR and is being touted for the Watford Job.
Obviously was some difference between Adkins and Jackson.
Be interesting to ask Rangers fans who's better Beale or Warburton, I've seen that Rangers fans want Beale as a future manager continuously raving about him.
my concern is that Warburton might be another Slade/Adkins .. shopworn, tired and just a wee bit of a yesterday's man
A couple of months ago Warburton had taken a QPR team, who had been struggling in The Championship in lower mid table for years to I think 3rd. A bit like Mowbray doing the same with Blackburn.
Both clubs were punching well above their weight and neither could maintain their wonderful form and slipped back to mid table.
When it was rumoured a month ago that Warburton was going to get the bullet, I was incredulous and thought if only we could get a manager like him, but realistically it was pie in the sky.
One month later, Warburton is indeed on his way and so is JJ.
Warburton has been successful at Brentford, Rangers & QPR, while we've been stumbling around in L1, with a brief stay in The Championship.
Warburton would be a massive upgrade on JJ and I would love it if he joined us. I love JJ but look at his managerial CV in comparison.
No manager is a guaranteed success, but he's the best, or one of the best realistic options, in my book.
TS is surprised by the amount of applicants already and feels this means the club is in a much better state already and is more attractive proposition than it was a year ago. He also agrees that we need a manager who has experience of the level we want to get to (champ) rather than just league 1 or below. He also says it will be a little while before a new manager is announced, at least 2 weeks.
Source?
That confirms that the person he wants is with another club …
Guardiola?
See you feck up the Champions League, next stop The Valley!
I listened to this earlier. It’s from the chap who did a video with JJ about 5 months ago, as part of another channel, and who also turns out to be a QPR fan.
Of course only one fans views, but it did make me feel a little more confident about a Warburton appointment if he did end up coming to us.
Warburton did very well at both Brentford and Rangers.
Less so during his six months at Forest and then it's been bumpy couple of years with QPR who started this season very brightly but faded away quickly.
I don't want Warburton he is too old. He is a full year older than the average age of this years champions league finalists.
/sarcasm
I really don't buy into this yesterday's man nonsense. Some times managers have success, or failer, due to fluke circumstances. But good managers are good managers. Out of the 92 only a dozen or so can be successful at anyone time. That doesn't make the other 80 bad.
Of course there are some bad managers, of course we have had some, but most are victims of circumstances.
I wonder how many of the people who don't want an old manager have also been clamouring for Curbs to come back as manager or DoF
Sandgaard's comments since the announcement worry me. He's getting too involved in the running of the team.
Talking about high press & defensive blocks like he knows what he's talking about.
It's a worrying sign.
The recruitment strategy worries me too. Don't think the manager has much say. I cant see the club progressing until he changes his approach & starts putting the team above his own ego
Why can't we just be a normal football club??
I got shouted down, laughed at and told I was talking shite when I said TS was too involved in the team a couple of months back.
The same happened when I said his wife was too involved as well, watch this space on that one.
Will Mrs Sandgaard be in charge of the vol-au-vents? Someone has to pick up the baton from Sue Parkes?
I don't want Warburton he is too old. He is a full year older than the average age of this years champions league finalists.
/sarcasm
I really don't buy into this yesterday's man nonsense. Some times managers have success, or failer, due to fluke circumstances. But good managers are good managers. Out of the 92 only a dozen or so can be successful at anyone time. That doesn't make the other 80 bad.
Of course there are some bad managers, of course we have had some, but most are victims of circumstances.
I wonder how many of the people who don't want an old manager have also been clamouring for Curbs to come back as manager or DoF
Well earlier we had Adkins lost touch with modern football, because he was outside of the game for 18 months. Yet the solution was Curbs as DOF. This was all in favour of Warburton who had, you guessed it, 18 months out of the game, before the QPR job.
Warburton did very well at both Brentford and Rangers.
Less so during his six months at Forest and then it's been bumpy couple of years with QPR who started this season very brightly but faded away quickly.
Brentford i agree with but saying he did very well at Rangers is questionable. He was there 18 months and for the first season of that they were in the championship. Getting Rangers out of the championship should be the bare minimum requirement. He was let go the following season when they were about 20 points behind Celtic by January.
Championship experience - check Got a team out of this division - check Plays decent football - check Won't be employed soon so no compensation - check
And if Sandgaard is saying it might take a week or more to confirm the new manager then that would also work, as QPR's season isn't over yet.
Warburton did very well at both Brentford and Rangers.
Less so during his six months at Forest and then it's been bumpy couple of years with QPR who started this season very brightly but faded away quickly.
Brentford i agree with but saying he did very well at Rangers is questionable. He was there 18 months and for the first season of that they were in the championship. Getting Rangers out of the championship should be the bare minimum requirement. He was let go the following season when they were about 20 points behind Celtic by January.
On paper it looks like he did a reasonable job at Rangers.
But what was the wage bill compared to Celtic's? What injuries did he have to cope with? Did the club sign good enough players? If not who's fault was that? What other mitigating circumstances were there?
Warburton did very well at both Brentford and Rangers.
Less so during his six months at Forest and then it's been bumpy couple of years with QPR who started this season very brightly but faded away quickly.
Brentford i agree with but saying he did very well at Rangers is questionable. He was there 18 months and for the first season of that they were in the championship. Getting Rangers out of the championship should be the bare minimum requirement. He was let go the following season when they were about 20 points behind Celtic by January.
On paper it looks like he did a reasonable job at Rangers.
But what was the wage bill compared to Celtic's? What injuries did he have to cope with? Did the club sign good enough players? If not who's fault was that? What other mitigating circumstances were there?
Well they’d been relegated previously hadn’t they so weren’t exactly competing with Celtic, even after they got promoted.
Warburton did very well at both Brentford and Rangers.
Less so during his six months at Forest and then it's been bumpy couple of years with QPR who started this season very brightly but faded away quickly.
Brentford i agree with but saying he did very well at Rangers is questionable. He was there 18 months and for the first season of that they were in the championship. Getting Rangers out of the championship should be the bare minimum requirement. He was let go the following season when they were about 20 points behind Celtic by January.
On paper it looks like he did a reasonable job at Rangers.
But what was the wage bill compared to Celtic's? What injuries did he have to cope with? Did the club sign good enough players? If not who's fault was that? What other mitigating circumstances were there?
Well they’d been relegated previously hadn’t they so weren’t exactly competing with Celtic, even after they got promoted.
Well quite. The "stats" without context are pretty useless when looking at a managers previous record.
Genuinely would go for Mick McCarthy. People will say old school and should retire, but only 63 (don't be ageist), promotion at Sunderland and Wolves, play off with Ipswich, did ok with Cardiff. Somehow made ROI competitive and always come across as honest and engaging. I think young and hungry always sounds great on paper, but IMHO he'd command respect and discipline.
Ipswich fans we spoke to on Saturday said Mccarthy's football was dire to watch and gates dropped off.
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Warburton I'm just not sure about him in the setup TS has planned , especially after how he left Brentford and the reasons behind it. Didn't he leave just before we beat them 3-0 at The Valley?
I just hope it's not a left field Scandinavian appointment , I know Thomas Frank worked for Brentford but I don't know if TS would find someone of that ilk.
Obviously was some difference between Adkins and Jackson.
Be interesting to ask Rangers fans who's better Beale or Warburton, I've seen that Rangers fans want Beale as a future manager continuously raving about him.
A bit like Mowbray doing the same with Blackburn.
Both clubs were punching well above their weight and neither could maintain their wonderful form and slipped back to mid table.
When it was rumoured a month ago that Warburton was going to get the bullet, I was incredulous and thought if only we could get a manager like him, but realistically it was pie in the sky.
One month later, Warburton is indeed on his way and so is JJ.
Warburton has been successful at Brentford, Rangers & QPR, while we've been stumbling around in L1, with a brief stay in The Championship.
Warburton would be a massive upgrade on JJ and I would love it if he joined us.
I love JJ but look at his managerial CV in comparison.
No manager is a guaranteed success, but he's the best, or one of the best realistic options, in my book.
See you feck up the Champions League, next stop The Valley!
Of course only one fans views, but it did make me feel a little more confident about a Warburton appointment if he did end up coming to us.
https://youtu.be/QuJWqi_qwpU
Sounds like they had massive injury issues back end of the season, which contributed to their bad run.
Less so during his six months at Forest and then it's been bumpy couple of years with QPR who started this season very brightly but faded away quickly.
England U19 manager Ian Foster
These are two that should be in consideration IMO.
Twist it, ignore facts, anything for an agenda.
Championship experience - check
Got a team out of this division - check
Plays decent football - check
Won't be employed soon so no compensation - check
And if Sandgaard is saying it might take a week or more to confirm the new manager then that would also work, as QPR's season isn't over yet.
Just employ a (proven?) manager, let him bring his own staff in. And let him make the changes as he sees fit (4/5 out, 4/5 in).
Top half finish next term and go for promotion the following.
No unrealistic goals. No Jason Euell. No Lee Bowyer. No Curbs 16/1
Just a conventional NEW person with some sort of decent credentials.
But what was the wage bill compared to Celtic's? What injuries did he have to cope with? Did the club sign good enough players? If not who's fault was that? What other mitigating circumstances were there?
Michael Beale - Talking though his coaching journey.
The more I look into him, the more I think we regret not getting him in. Especially thinking beyond league one.