Someone mentioned a woman doing the job and the more I think about it,it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
The publicity Sandgaard would get would be something only someone like him could only dream of. Would go down an absolute treat with his American following and maybe even some of them would watch. Never been done before and it's a new angle.
Got Sandgaard written all over it!
We could expect to get a better quality manager as the current situation makes it much less likely that a woman would get a management role of a men's team. Therefore an employer's market.
I’m of the opinion that Warburtons very public pending departure from QPR turned TS’ head and I think he will have made contact, and the initial response prompted him regards JJ
It seems to me that the Sangaards want to try and emulate the way Brentford have worked over the past few years, using statistical data as the main recruitment tool.
Warburton was on board with this at Brentford and did very well there. As other have said, other recent recruits have a Brentford background. It wouldn't surprise me if Warburton is the target, though I would be surprised if he'd drop to League One.
It's almost ironic that we are aspiring to "do a Brentford", a team that historically has generally been below us in terms of league position and support.
Warburton wasn’t on board with it, it was the reason he left.
It seems to me that the Sangaards want to try and emulate the way Brentford have worked over the past few years, using statistical data as the main recruitment tool.
Warburton was on board with this at Brentford and did very well there. As other have said, other recent recruits have a Brentford background. It wouldn't surprise me if Warburton is the target, though I would be surprised if he'd drop to League One.
It's almost ironic that we are aspiring to "do a Brentford", a team that historically has generally been below us in terms of league position and support.
I don't see an issue in using the Brentford model as a basis for success, we seem to have a lot of snobs supporting us who turn their noses up at the thought of looking at other club's players, managers or backroom staff who are historically smaller than ourselves. They need to realise we are not top tier nor even an established second tier side and haven't been for a long time.
The issue I do see with using this model is that it isn't necessarily an instant fix to the issues we have, it takes time implementing all the pieces to ensure that it all works. I think it took Brentford something like 5 years to get out of L1 when Benham took over. I'm willing to be patient and see what happens with regards to the managerial appointment and player recruitment, not saying I'd be happy to wait 5 years but as long as we are seeing good progress each season then that is acceptable for me.
One of the drivers of Brentford's success was buying players from "smaller" leagues. They wouldn't have been able to pay for the likes of Konsa and Watkins if they hadn't done that first. We now don't have the option.
It seems to me that the Sangaards want to try and emulate the way Brentford have worked over the past few years, using statistical data as the main recruitment tool.
Warburton was on board with this at Brentford and did very well there. As other have said, other recent recruits have a Brentford background. It wouldn't surprise me if Warburton is the target, though I would be surprised if he'd drop to League One.
It's almost ironic that we are aspiring to "do a Brentford", a team that historically has generally been below us in terms of league position and support.
I don't see an issue in using the Brentford model as a basis for success, we seem to have a lot of snobs supporting us who turn their noses up at the thought of looking at other club's players, managers or backroom staff who are historically smaller than ourselves. They need to realise we are not top tier nor even an established second tier side and haven't been for a long time.
The issue I do see with using this model is that it isn't necessarily an instant fix to the issues we have, it takes time implementing all the pieces to ensure that it all works. I think it took Brentford something like 5 years to get out of L1 when Benham took over. I'm willing to be patient and see what happens with regards to the managerial appointment and player recruitment, not saying I'd be happy to wait 5 years but as long as we are seeing good progress each season then that is acceptable for me.
One of the drivers of Brentford's success was buying players from "smaller" leagues. They wouldn't have been able to pay for the likes of Konsa and Watkins if they hadn't done that first. We now don't have the option.
Ask yourself what sort of manager would want to work for and egotistical football birdbrain that has final say on all football related matters within the club, more than likely without consulting you on most of them?
It will cost Sandgaard an absolute bloody fortune to get a person with any real standing within in the game that has recent good pedigree. For the reasons mentioned above they'd want even more than the going rate for offering their service.
Never going to happen.
Prepare to be more underwhelmed than quite possibly you ever have before.
Ask yourself what sort of manager would want to work for and egotistical football birdbrain that has final say on all football related matters within the club, more than likely without consulting you on most of them?
It will cost Sandgaard an absolute bloody fortune to get a person with any real standing within in the game that has recent good pedigree. For the reasons mentioned above they'd want even more than the going rate for offering their service.
Never going to happen.
Prepare to be more underwhelmed than quite possibly you ever have before.
I don’t think you understand the nature of football managers.
no, I honestly believe they have just started looking
I think there is a case to be made for this. Up until Ipswich away possibly TS was vacillating, but that performance, in front of him, and in front of loyal fans you hope would possibly buy season tickets may well have been the deciding factor.
A successful trader in the city in his late 30's with plenty of *money in the bank he turns his back on that lavish lifestyle to follow his dream of coaching in professional football. He travelled Europe watching the difference coaching methods of top European clubs.
The big difference with Nigel Adkins is despite Mark being 59 to NA's 57, Mark Warburton has stayed working in the crazy world of football with all its politics and maverick owners. Nigel Adkins took the time out and then found football never stops evolving with constant new formations and agents becoming more powerful than ever.
You need to be a strong character to manage Glasgow Rangers and he did that on their Journey back to the top table after their enforced relegations.
In the last 20+ years Warburton is over qualified in being a top coach, manager, director of football, plus with his background in the City he has also worked on Footballer's contracts.
The big issue would be MW wouldn't accept not having the main say in transfers and the Martin Sandgaard position at the club. Thomas Sandgaard would've to accept he has a very bright Manager on and off the pitch and give him 100% support.
So my choices would be either Mark Warburton with total managerial control or Curbs as "Director of football" with Michael Beale as manager/Head coach.
no, I honestly believe they have just started looking
that is not the action, or inaction, of a good businessman, I really do fear for the future of our club.
But everything is guess work and opinion, he was hardly going to come out and say “I was always going to sack JJ and we started the process a few weeks ago” was he?
Ask yourself what sort of manager would want to work for and egotistical football birdbrain that has final say on all football related matters within the club, more than likely without consulting you on most of them?
It will cost Sandgaard an absolute bloody fortune to get a person with any real standing within in the game that has recent good pedigree. For the reasons mentioned above they'd want even more than the going rate for offering their service.
Never going to happen.
Prepare to be more underwhelmed than quite possibly you ever have before.
I don’t think you understand the nature of football managers.
Other than a little more charisma there doesn't seem a lot of difference between sandgaard and roland...you simply can't rewrite the rules on running a successful football club
Other than a little more charisma there doesn't seem a lot of difference between sandgaard and roland...you simply can't rewrite the rules on running a successful football club
Other than a little more charisma there doesn't seem a lot of difference between sandgaard and roland...you simply can't rewrite the rules on running a successful football club
Did you not read the great post by @Garrymanilow on the Jackson leaves thread, if not i respectfully suggest you do..
Someone mentioned a woman doing the job and the more I think about it,it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
The publicity Sandgaard would get would be something only someone like him could only dream of. Would go down an absolute treat with his American following and maybe even some of them would watch. Never been done before and it's a new angle.
Got Sandgaard written all over it!
We could expect to get a better quality manager as the current situation makes it much less likely that a woman would get a management role of a men's team. Therefore an employer's market.
There is no way a Woman would walk into the dressing room and smash teacups, she would calmly gather them up and place them in the dishwasher.
A successful trader in the city in his late 30's with plenty of *money in the bank he turns his back on that lavish lifestyle to follow his dream of coaching in professional football. He travelled Europe watching the difference coaching methods of top European clubs.
The big difference with Nigel Adkins is despite Mark being 59 to NA's 57, is Mark Warburton has stayed working in the crazy world of football with all its politics and maverick owners.
In the last 20 years Warburton is over qualified in being a top coach, manager, director of football, with his background in the City he has also worked on Footballer's contracts.
The big issue would be MW wouldn't accept not having the main say in transfers and the Martin Sandgaard position at the club. Thomas Sandgaard would've to accept he has a very bright Manager on and off the pitch and give him 100% support.
So my choices would be either Mark Warburton with total managerial control or Curbs as "Director of football" with Michael Beale as manager/Head coach.
* Dough
Even though he managed Rangers in Div 1 and briefly managed in the SPL that pressure would have been immense. Can’t see how that experience wouldn’t be beneficial to us. Lots of my family members are huge rangers fans so have read various articles about his time up there.
Personally think Warburton would be a huge scoop for us.
It seems to me that the Sangaards want to try and emulate the way Brentford have worked over the past few years, using statistical data as the main recruitment tool.
Warburton was on board with this at Brentford and did very well there. As other have said, other recent recruits have a Brentford background. It wouldn't surprise me if Warburton is the target, though I would be surprised if he'd drop to League One.
It's almost ironic that we are aspiring to "do a Brentford", a team that historically has generally been below us in terms of league position and support.
Warburton wasn’t on board with it, it was the reason he left.
It was pretty public at the time. I believe his last game on charge there was against us at The Valley in the Luzon era.
Seems to me that there's a huge element of luck involved as to whether any manager is successful at any given club. Sometimes, it just works, sometimes you think someone will be a perfect fit, but it turns out to be a disaster. With that in mind, why not just go with someone who has a great football knowledge, who cares about the club, and has a deep association with the club? Yes I know Johnny Jackson fitted that criteria and it hasn't worked out. But what about Brownie? The players would be desperate to win just in order to avoid hearing him waffling on for hours on end after the game 🤣
no, I honestly believe they have just started looking
Disagree, we know TS had names in mind even when Bowyer resigned. I heard Jackson was going at the end of the season in mid to late April, so it’s very unlikely TS hadn’t started the search until this week.
Whether he appoints the right manager and we get recruitment right are other issues entirely.
It seems to me that the Sangaards want to try and emulate the way Brentford have worked over the past few years, using statistical data as the main recruitment tool.
Warburton was on board with this at Brentford and did very well there. As other have said, other recent recruits have a Brentford background. It wouldn't surprise me if Warburton is the target, though I would be surprised if he'd drop to League One.
It's almost ironic that we are aspiring to "do a Brentford", a team that historically has generally been below us in terms of league position and support.
Warburton wasn’t on board with it, it was the reason he left.
Not entirely true - he stated that there was going to be a much greater emphasis on mathematical modelling than currently, and that there were certain aspects which he thought had worked well at Brentford.
A successful trader in the city in his late 30's with plenty of *money in the bank he turns his back on that lavish lifestyle to follow his dream of coaching in professional football. He travelled Europe watching the difference coaching methods of top European clubs.
The big difference with Nigel Adkins is despite Mark being 59 to NA's 57, is Mark Warburton has stayed working in the crazy world of football with all its politics and maverick owners.
In the last 20 years Warburton is over qualified in being a top coach, manager, director of football, with his background in the City he has also worked on Footballer's contracts.
The big issue would be MW wouldn't accept not having the main say in transfers and the Martin Sandgaard position at the club. Thomas Sandgaard would've to accept he has a very bright Manager on and off the pitch and give him 100% support.
So my choices would be either Mark Warburton with total managerial control or Curbs as "Director of football" with Michael Beale as manager/Head coach.
* Dough
Even though he managed Rangers in Div 1 and briefly managed in the SPL that pressure would have been immense. Can’t see how that experience wouldn’t be beneficial to us. Lots of my family members are huge rangers fans so have read various articles about his time up there.
Personally think Warburton would be a huge scoop for us.
I did edit about Warburton at Rangers just minutes after my original post because he won't be intimated by the negative noise of critics in the crowd.
The vast majority of professional coaches and a head of recruitment at an academy I know agree with Warburton that you have to marry the two between checking data but also watching the players in different situations. How do they perform away from home in mid week in lousy weather when their team goes behind. Do they have the stamina for 90+ minute games. Are they a good team player. What is their family life like ? Are they good time keepers ? Do they train well and what is their diet ? This is the gossip when Managers, scouts, recruitment guys meet up at the myriad of matches they go to every week.
The "black box" can identify players but it can't put the skin on the bones of every scenario that happens to players on their Journey to being a professional footballer with longevity.
The stats would have said that Marcus Maddison would've been a great signing for Cafc at just 27 But the reality was he had totally lost his way, was lonely because his relationship with his child's Mother had broken down, didn't enjoy training and had a poor diet for a pro footballer in the modern era. Throw in the Covid lockdown and if the Computer didn't say No the football grapevine most certainly knew it was a massive gamble. You guys on twitter and social media platforms knew Marcus was a lost soul.
Until Football is played by Robots the Black box data collection will only give you the template of footballers.
Sandgaard's comments since the announcement worry me. He's getting too involved in the running of the team.
Talking about high press & defensive blocks like he knows what he's talking about.
It's a worrying sign.
The recruitment strategy worries me too. Don't think the manager has much say. I cant see the club progressing until he changes his approach & starts putting the team above his own ego
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Thomas had known for sometime that 8th place was never going to happen. So I would hope that the wheels have been turning for a while now.
It will cost Sandgaard an absolute bloody fortune to get a person with any real standing within in the game that has recent good pedigree. For the reasons mentioned above they'd want even more than the going rate for offering their service.
Never going to happen.
Prepare to be more underwhelmed than quite possibly you ever have before.
I said it earlier. Robo-Sandgaard.
Up until Ipswich away possibly TS was vacillating, but that performance, in front of him, and in front of loyal fans you hope would possibly buy season tickets may well have been the deciding factor.
A successful trader in the city in his late 30's with plenty of *money in the bank he turns his back on that lavish lifestyle to follow his dream of coaching in professional football. He travelled Europe watching the difference coaching methods of top European clubs.
The big difference with Nigel Adkins is despite Mark being 59 to NA's 57, Mark Warburton has stayed working in the crazy world of football with all its politics and maverick owners. Nigel Adkins took the time out and then found football never stops evolving with constant new formations and agents becoming more powerful than ever.
You need to be a strong character to manage Glasgow Rangers and he did that on their Journey back to the top table after their enforced relegations.
In the last 20+ years Warburton is over qualified in being a top coach, manager, director of football, plus with his background in the City he has also worked on Footballer's contracts.
The big issue would be MW wouldn't accept not having the main say in transfers and the Martin Sandgaard position at the club. Thomas Sandgaard would've to accept he has a very bright Manager on and off the pitch and give him 100% support.
So my choices would be either Mark Warburton with total managerial control or Curbs as "Director of football" with Michael Beale as manager/Head coach.
* Dough
That last bit is such an over reaction though..
Sometimes, it just works, sometimes you think someone will be a perfect fit, but it turns out to be a disaster.
With that in mind, why not just go with someone who has a great football knowledge, who cares about the club, and has a deep association with the club? Yes I know Johnny Jackson fitted that criteria and it hasn't worked out.
But what about Brownie? The players would be desperate to win just in order to avoid hearing him waffling on for hours on end after the game 🤣
Whether he appoints the right manager and we get recruitment right are other issues entirely.
I did edit about Warburton at Rangers just minutes after my original post because he won't be intimated by the negative noise of critics in the crowd.
The vast majority of professional coaches and a head of recruitment at an academy I know agree with Warburton that you have to marry the two between checking data but also watching the players in different situations. How do they perform away from home in mid week in lousy weather when their team goes behind. Do they have the stamina for 90+ minute games. Are they a good team player. What is their family life like ? Are they good time keepers ? Do they train well and what is their diet ? This is the gossip when Managers, scouts, recruitment guys meet up at the myriad of matches they go to every week.
The "black box" can identify players but it can't put the skin on the bones of every scenario that happens to players on their Journey to being a professional footballer with longevity.
The stats would have said that Marcus Maddison would've been a great signing for Cafc at just 27 But the reality was he had totally lost his way, was lonely because his relationship with his child's Mother had broken down, didn't enjoy training and had a poor diet for a pro footballer in the modern era. Throw in the Covid lockdown and if the Computer didn't say No the football grapevine most certainly knew it was a massive gamble. You guys on twitter and social media platforms knew Marcus was a lost soul.
Until Football is played by Robots the Black box data collection will only give you the template of footballers.