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I’d be happy with Warburton, can’t see it happening though! I agree with others, I think it’ll be someone we won’t have spoken about.2
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Last comparable promotion was finishing runner up in League One, in 2014.The Red Robin said:
Warburton wouldn’t be my first choice but he’s not an Adkins. Adkins’ success was a decade ago. Warburton is still doing well this season.Valley11 said:
Like Adkins in that he’s a bloke who has some success on his CV, albeit way back when, and in his 50s, isn’t the most dynamic choice - unlike a Russell Martin or Liam Manning type who play a progressive, modern style.Cafc43v3r said:
What does Warburton have in common with Adkins?Valley11 said:
I think you might be right. Thomas has previously salivated at the Brentford model too and as you say, has already installed Dangerfield and De Souza.SweetCAFC said:I think it will be Warburton.
Rumours that he would be leaving QPR started early April and was looking for a new project where he could potentially achieve success - Charlton? We have since recruited Dangerfield and De Souza, both of whom it seems worked with Warburton at Brentford- indeed, the club announcement of Da Souza highlighted this - coincidence?If it is Warburton, presumably it wouldn’t be announced until after QPR have finished their season- we will see… Interesting times!
Warburton feels like Adkins III also doubt he’d accept Thomas’ son as transfer guru, if this quote is accurate:
‘A week later, a club statement confirmed that Warburton, assistant David Weir and Sporting Director Frank McParland would be leaving Brentford at the end of the 2014–15 season, citing the trio's differences with owner Matthew Benham's anticipated remodelling of the club's management structure,[48] which would include recruitment being based on mathematical modelling and statistics allied to normal scouting methods.[49] The Hounslow Chronicle later dubbed the saga "Warburtongate".[50] Ahead of Brentford's playoff campaign in May 2015, Warburton revealed the truth about his departure, saying "I think the manager has to pick the team and have the final say, in my opinion.’Won the Scottish second division in 2016.Will finish mid table with QPR this season.
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There are plenty of reasons she couldn’t. In fact, has she ever been involved in men’s football?rananegra said:
Saw the women's game on Sunday. Charlton did a Golfie. Heads didn't drop. If Karen Hills took the mens team it would cause uproar but is there a good reason why she couldn't? Hypothetical of courseGravesend_Addick said:
Yeah it was me. Mainly said in jest, but wouldn't shock mecarly burn said:Someone mentioned a woman doing the job and the more I think about it,it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
The publicity Sandgaard would get would be something only someone like him could only dream of. Would go down an absolute treat with his American following and maybe even some of them would watch.
Never been done before and it's a new angle.
Got Sandgaard written all over it!0 -
If it’s John Yems, then yes apparently 🤔Showmetheway2gohome said:Is it acceptable to call people ginger and ginger twat now days.in our multi cultural politically correct society.0 -
YesShowmetheway2gohome said:Is it acceptable to call people ginger and ginger twat now days.in our multi cultural politically correct society.1 -
He suffered from depression and I think he lost all his hair.Showmetheway2gohome said:Is it acceptable to call people ginger and ginger twat now days.in our multi cultural politically correct society.0 -
It seems to me that the Sangaards want to try and emulate the way Brentford have worked over the past few years, using statistical data as the main recruitment tool.Warburton was on board with this at Brentford and did very well there. As other have said, other recent recruits have a Brentford background. It wouldn't surprise me if Warburton is the target, though I would be surprised if he'd drop to League One.It's almost ironic that we are aspiring to "do a Brentford", a team that historically has generally been below us in terms of league position and support.1
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So having the third highest budget in the division is not wanting to spend money ? How that budget was spent is a different discussion but I don’t think Sandgaard has been tight with his money at all. Lot of old no real knowledge guff is posted.addick1956 said:
No...Johnson and Lennon were not mentioned as I recall . What I did say in mid to late June that the recruitment wa bloody awful and Tommy didn't want to spend money. I was roundly castigated. I also said that Adkins wasn't at fault over the recruitment debacle. That has proved true.. yet people forget that.Covered End said:
Didn't you say that last season as well?addick1956 said:
I would ask for my season ticket money back on principle if it were Lennon or Johnson. Jimmy , I would maybe or maybe not.ricky_otto said:
That would be utterly soul destroying. If he, Neil Lennon or Lee Johnson got the job I genuinely wouldn’t go to a game.roseandcrown said:Got a feeling it is going to be Jimmy floyd.6 -
Not sure if this has already been reported & hopefully bollocks, but Steve Kean being linked by the Scottish media
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-kean-charlton-shortlist-hibs-26873149
His managerial record
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I'll quiz him when Villa come to Perth in July!stonemuse said:
Another Twitter rumour?
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Prob good shoutHenry Irving said:I've narrowed it down to:
Michael Beale
Michael Duff
Matt Taylor
Mark Warburton0 -
JFH I reckon1
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Martin Sandgaard, nailed on.
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Showmetheway2gohome said:Is it acceptable to call people ginger and ginger twat now days.in our multi cultural politically correct society.
https://youtu.be/KiEUkYCuvuM
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Has TS got any bored kids hanging about?
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I don't see an issue in using the Brentford model as a basis for success, we seem to have a lot of snobs supporting us who turn their noses up at the thought of looking at other club's players, managers or backroom staff who are historically smaller than ourselves. They need to realise we are not top tier nor even an established second tier side and haven't been for a long time.Bangkokaddick said:It seems to me that the Sangaards want to try and emulate the way Brentford have worked over the past few years, using statistical data as the main recruitment tool.Warburton was on board with this at Brentford and did very well there. As other have said, other recent recruits have a Brentford background. It wouldn't surprise me if Warburton is the target, though I would be surprised if he'd drop to League One.It's almost ironic that we are aspiring to "do a Brentford", a team that historically has generally been below us in terms of league position and support.
The issue I do see with using this model is that it isn't necessarily an instant fix to the issues we have, it takes time implementing all the pieces to ensure that it all works. I think it took Brentford something like 5 years to get out of L1 when Benham took over. I'm willing to be patient and see what happens with regards to the managerial appointment and player recruitment, not saying I'd be happy to wait 5 years but as long as we are seeing good progress each season then that is acceptable for me.3 -
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If Sandgaard even considers Hasselbaink it shows he really doesn’t understand this club.7
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We could expect to get a better quality manager as the current situation makes it much less likely that a woman would get a management role of a men's team. Therefore an employer's market.carly burn said:Someone mentioned a woman doing the job and the more I think about it,it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
The publicity Sandgaard would get would be something only someone like him could only dream of. Would go down an absolute treat with his American following and maybe even some of them would watch.
Never been done before and it's a new angle.
Got Sandgaard written all over it!0 -
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I’m of the opinion that Warburtons very public pending departure from QPR turned TS’ head and I think he will have made contact, and the initial response prompted him regards JJ
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F ck me, if its Beale I'll be gobsmacked7
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Warburton wasn’t on board with it, it was the reason he left.Bangkokaddick said:It seems to me that the Sangaards want to try and emulate the way Brentford have worked over the past few years, using statistical data as the main recruitment tool.Warburton was on board with this at Brentford and did very well there. As other have said, other recent recruits have a Brentford background. It wouldn't surprise me if Warburton is the target, though I would be surprised if he'd drop to League One.It's almost ironic that we are aspiring to "do a Brentford", a team that historically has generally been below us in terms of league position and support.1 -
One of the drivers of Brentford's success was buying players from "smaller" leagues. They wouldn't have been able to pay for the likes of Konsa and Watkins if they hadn't done that first. We now don't have the option.colthe3rd said:
I don't see an issue in using the Brentford model as a basis for success, we seem to have a lot of snobs supporting us who turn their noses up at the thought of looking at other club's players, managers or backroom staff who are historically smaller than ourselves. They need to realise we are not top tier nor even an established second tier side and haven't been for a long time.Bangkokaddick said:It seems to me that the Sangaards want to try and emulate the way Brentford have worked over the past few years, using statistical data as the main recruitment tool.Warburton was on board with this at Brentford and did very well there. As other have said, other recent recruits have a Brentford background. It wouldn't surprise me if Warburton is the target, though I would be surprised if he'd drop to League One.It's almost ironic that we are aspiring to "do a Brentford", a team that historically has generally been below us in terms of league position and support.
The issue I do see with using this model is that it isn't necessarily an instant fix to the issues we have, it takes time implementing all the pieces to ensure that it all works. I think it took Brentford something like 5 years to get out of L1 when Benham took over. I'm willing to be patient and see what happens with regards to the managerial appointment and player recruitment, not saying I'd be happy to wait 5 years but as long as we are seeing good progress each season then that is acceptable for me.1 -
It's true, there are no leagues below League OneCafc43v3r said:
One of the drivers of Brentford's success was buying players from "smaller" leagues. They wouldn't have been able to pay for the likes of Konsa and Watkins if they hadn't done that first. We now don't have the option.colthe3rd said:
I don't see an issue in using the Brentford model as a basis for success, we seem to have a lot of snobs supporting us who turn their noses up at the thought of looking at other club's players, managers or backroom staff who are historically smaller than ourselves. They need to realise we are not top tier nor even an established second tier side and haven't been for a long time.Bangkokaddick said:It seems to me that the Sangaards want to try and emulate the way Brentford have worked over the past few years, using statistical data as the main recruitment tool.Warburton was on board with this at Brentford and did very well there. As other have said, other recent recruits have a Brentford background. It wouldn't surprise me if Warburton is the target, though I would be surprised if he'd drop to League One.It's almost ironic that we are aspiring to "do a Brentford", a team that historically has generally been below us in terms of league position and support.
The issue I do see with using this model is that it isn't necessarily an instant fix to the issues we have, it takes time implementing all the pieces to ensure that it all works. I think it took Brentford something like 5 years to get out of L1 when Benham took over. I'm willing to be patient and see what happens with regards to the managerial appointment and player recruitment, not saying I'd be happy to wait 5 years but as long as we are seeing good progress each season then that is acceptable for me.7 -
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Thomas had known for sometime that 8th place was never going to happen. So I would hope that the wheels have been turning for a while now.So can we take it that Jacko replacement is still in work and that’s the reason for no announcement yet?2 -
no, I honestly believe they have just started looking10
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Ask yourself what sort of manager would want to work for and egotistical football birdbrain that has final say on all football related matters within the club, more than likely without consulting you on most of them?
It will cost Sandgaard an absolute bloody fortune to get a person with any real standing within in the game that has recent good pedigree. For the reasons mentioned above they'd want even more than the going rate for offering their service.
Never going to happen.
Prepare to be more underwhelmed than quite possibly you ever have before.2 -
I don’t think you understand the nature of football managers.carly burn said:Ask yourself what sort of manager would want to work for and egotistical football birdbrain that has final say on all football related matters within the club, more than likely without consulting you on most of them?
It will cost Sandgaard an absolute bloody fortune to get a person with any real standing within in the game that has recent good pedigree. For the reasons mentioned above they'd want even more than the going rate for offering their service.
Never going to happen.
Prepare to be more underwhelmed than quite possibly you ever have before.1
