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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)
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After seeing our 12th backpass to the keeper in the first game...Scoham said:Good stuff but can see him regretting the move about 2 games in.
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Clearly remember posters saying it was outrageous that MS was ‘heading up’ recruitment, or words to that effect.CL_Phantom said:JamesSeed said:
Exactly. I never got why people thought MS was totally in charge of recruitment.balham red said:
He just brings the analytics view to the recruitment committee. He doesn't get a final say, and Gallen brings the target list to the table.CL_Phantom said:balham red said:So after all the shit flinging, it turns out Gallen and MS were responsible for shortlisting and doing most of the interviewing for managers after all. Gallen has not been sidelined.
You mean all the shit that was being flung at people who were questioning Mart's involvement in recruiting for the club, because, you know, he jsut sits on his arse all day picking his nose keeping an eye out for his dad?
Stand down.
No one did... It was a myth made up by people who didn't like any criticism aimed at a Sandgaard, the same 3/4 posters refusing to accept what the debate was about probably to feel more "proper Charlton" as theyre not being "negative" with an "agenda".
Debate was around the process as described on more than one occasion, the level of input of each committee member and said people's skills and qualifications. Again. As described on more than one occasion by committee members as put out in the public domain, unfortunately, some people didn't want to refer to such materials, or most likely, believe it because it "didn't suit their narrative" so we had and still have the same people dismissing it and the endless fucking debate.To be fair, loads of posters who be very critical about the amount of time it was taking to appoint a manager (despite players being in the hols) have been more placatory subsequently.1 -
Hopefully the make up of the first eleven will be unrecognisable. If it’s not then Bens going to need all those coaching skills.6
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He's going to have his work cut out either way. Either trying to get the current lot of players to reinvent themselves pretty much across the board or by tearing it up and starting completely from scratch.ShootersHillGuru said:Hopefully the make up of the first eleven will be unrecognisable. If it’s not then Bens going to need all those coaching skills.
That said, he does seem to have a template for building teams and giving them an ID and for all you can say about Sandgaard it can't be said he's not willing to spend, so I'm hoping that we might just turn a corner.0 -
Once again, message board histrionics. It states him watching each game, not every minute of each game.
You never know, he might even watch the one minute Sky highlights.0 -
I was sitting here thinking Garner needs to watch our games from last season to know the players he's inherited and what he needs. A minute later I read this.Scoham said:Good stuff but can see him regretting the move about 2 games in.
Seems like the best course of action.3 -
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He would be better served watching all the U18 and U23 action from last season.
Not that we get to see such stuff other than on a haphazard and random often last minute basis.
I hope that coverage of below first team football is hugely improved by the communications team next season.2 -
it would be very poor if BG didn't watch them as besides the views of the JE etc it is the only way he will know what he has to work with and first off whether to offer Purrington a new deal.2
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I really appreciate the work Cawley & co. do, but piecemeal articles like that do my head in. It says nothing! Talk about milking an interview8
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Not sure the use in watching 11 players playing in incorrect positions, in a formation they barely knew, trying to play football with no game-plan or a clue.Scoham said:Good stuff but can see him regretting the move about 2 games in.
'Dobson looks alright though I guess, other than that 10 new signings please.'1 -
So don't watch the first team, have no idea about the players you have and what is required and watch the U18/23's instead? Ridiculous.seth plum said:He would be better served watching all the U18 and U23 action from last season.
Not that we get to see such stuff other than on a haphazard and random often last minute basis.
I hope that coverage of below first team football is hugely improved by the communications team next season.4 -
Covered End said:
I was sitting here thinking Garner needs to watch our games from last season to know the players he's inherited and what he needs. A minute later I read this.Scoham said:Good stuff but can see him regretting the move about 2 games in.
Seems like the best course of action.
Totally agree.
It's seems so obvious to some of us that to fix the problems, he needs to watch the matches from last season as why the passing was erratic and why some times the 3-5-2 worked fine, eg Ipswich and Plymouth at home, etc but Oxford at home and Ipswich away to pick just the biggest defeats we were awful. He has a mammoth task but he should relish the opportunity as there are hundreds if not thousands of young coaches and managers who are well qualified from League 2 downwards.
He can try any fluid formations he wants, it's his gig now but it's not just goals scored, top marks for the Robins but Swindon did concede more than any other team in the top 10 of League 2 so the evolution may still be on going in his coaching mind on what formation to play. 3-4-3,4-3-3 etc.
I hope he can work out why Gilbey can be so good in some matches, Ipswich at home but headless chicken at other times ?
They say you learn more from mistakes so Ben Garner may end up as Albert Einstein after watching some of those matches !1 -
I'd love to read his notes on MacGillivray across the games.'This keeper is terribleThis keeper is a good shot stopperThis keeper is terribleThis keeper is the only reason we're still in the gameThis keeper is terribleThis keeper is OK?This keeper can't command his areaThis keeper REALLY can't command his areaThe keeper has taken criticism on board and is now dominating his area. Maybe he's salvageableI don't know what this keeper is'28
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Especially as around half of them have now left the club...SELR_addicks said:
Not sure the use in watching 11 players playing in incorrect positions, in a formation they barely knew, trying to play football with no game-plan or a clue.Scoham said:Good stuff but can see him regretting the move about 2 games in.
'Dobson looks alright though I guess, other than that 10 new signings please.'0 -
Everybody’s different and this isn’t a dig at him but if I had agreed a deal in principle 2 weeks ago I’d have watched all them games twice by now - no sense of urgency this modern generation !!!!3
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Purrington gone then…1
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masicat said:Purrington gone then…
Havent seen anything?1 - Sponsored links:
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Am hearing no contract for BP. Also hearing another senior player has been told he can go.1
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Pleased if true.9
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Gilbey...5
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Similar role to Sergeant Wilson?CL_Phantom said:ShootersHillGuru said:Any thoughts on who should be captain next season or is he yet to arrive ?
Gilbey 100%
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No-one reads slander, because slander is spoken. It’s libel that you won’t tolerate reading.Callumcafc said:
Wouldn't want to sign him now but won't read the slander without challenging it.You’re welcome.2 -
Good news if Purrington has gone - good pro, always worked hard but not good enough to get us out this league8
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Are you making some kind of point?Covered End said:
So don't watch the first team, have no idea about the players you have and what is required and watch the U18/23's instead? Ridiculous.seth plum said:He would be better served watching all the U18 and U23 action from last season.
Not that we get to see such stuff other than on a haphazard and random often last minute basis.
I hope that coverage of below first team football is hugely improved by the communications team next season.
Charlton TV subscribers are partially enticed by a suggestion that development level games are covered.
Up to now that has been haphazard and unpredictable and I am hoping for it to get better.
We are not allowed to watch games at Sparrows Lane, even with a season ticket.
Now my opinions are probably rubbish, but some others, and some other posters know that I have always been interested in commenting on the play and players below first team level, and have built up some knowledge of that part of the club.
If you think that it is ridiculous that I hope for better coverage then fine, but what I think is happening is you are once again seizing on an opportunity to have a dig at me for no reason because I don’t continually worship the comms team but want them to give a better service.
Another person describes it as a vendetta, which it isn’t. It is a desire for better coverage, and by the way that includes better camera coverage and commentary when it falls short.
It is like certain people are above criticism, but Seth Plum deserves as much criticism as can be brewed up. I do not describe your posts as ridiculous, I have explained my point of view, if you think there is something wrong with the detail of what I write then comment on that rather than your continual baseless personal digs.3 -
Even though he has previously proved that he is good enough to get us out of this league?cabbles said:Good news if Purrington has gone - good pro, always worked hard but not good enough to get us out this league32 -
Can I be the 356th to say he is, he has. I would be really pissed off if he was 1st choice next season though.cabbles said:Good news if Purrington has gone - good pro, always worked hard but not good enough to get us out this league
I would much rather have Purrington as a back up left back than some of the players we still have anywhere near the place to be honest. Assuming we will play a back 4, obviously no guarantees, he is fine as 2nd choice. There are at least half a dozen left that I wouldn't want, even as 2nd choice.8
