Our problem is the way we all talk to each other. The politicians do it and we do the same on here. Everything is you and us.
I’m not so sure mate.
I think there’s believing in climate change, whether it be mildly concerned and doing little things like recycling, or being very concerned - that’s normal.
And then there’s denying climate change - that’s called being idiotic.
There’s not two opinions, there is right and wrong, on this subject. I hope I’ve interpreted your post correctly.
Interesting comment by London fire chief on Sky News - even a piece of glass on - for example - Dartford Heath, in these conditions, will start a fire
Now I am no dunder head - I know about magnifying glass and paper etc - but it never occurred to me in terms of a grass fire - I always thought it was chucked cigarettes or portable BBQ’s or deliberate action
In 2020, when people were allowed to mix outdoors after lockdown, we took our dogs to Hall Place for a walk - it was packed with people having get togethers - there were bottles of wine and beer all over - it was the rubbish and discarded BBQ’s that pissed me off - just left scattered everywhere
But beer and wine bottles left there I just regarded as lazy gits leaving rubbish - never thought of them as being fire hazards
I was at Hall Place on Sunday - it’s parched - bone dry - if I see glass I will now pick it up, having watched those shocking scenes from Essex
Sky News is amongst the very worst of doom mongerers in this country. They have been showing the same loop of the Wennington fire for over 3 hours now and nothing else. They are desperate for this fire to spread across London and create a modern day Armageddon!
It needs to be shown so that those who keep downplaying the effects of Climate Change can see what we're facing.
It is not just climate change, we have had a dry hot summer so far and grass dries out. Plenty of instances of forest fires all over the country in years gone bye, sadly caused by nature, a stray fag butt, disposable BBQ's, littered glass bottles & dickheads having a laugh.
Yes its been a hot couple of days, yes the high temps are probably down to climate change but you cannot pin everything on it, accidents, nature and dickheads have been around for a long time and will continue to be so.
Sky News is amongst the very worst of doom mongerers in this country. They have been showing the same loop of the Wennington fire for over 3 hours now and nothing else. They are desperate for this fire to spread across London and create a modern day Armageddon!
It needs to be shown so that those who keep downplaying the effects of Climate Change can see what we're facing.
It is not just climate change, we have had a dry hot summer so far and grass dries out. Plenty of instances of forest fires all over the country in years gone bye, sadly caused by nature, a stray fag butt, disposable BBQ's, littered glass bottles & dickheads having a laugh.
Yes its been a hot couple of days, yes the high temps are probably down to climate change but you cannot pin everything on it, accidents, nature and dickheads have been around for a long time and will continue to be so.
Today's temperatures are most definitely down to climate change. No-one is saying these things haven't happened before, but they are going to become more frequent as a result of climate change.
Sky News is amongst the very worst of doom mongerers in this country. They have been showing the same loop of the Wennington fire for over 3 hours now and nothing else. They are desperate for this fire to spread across London and create a modern day Armageddon!
It needs to be shown so that those who keep downplaying the effects of Climate Change can see what we're facing.
It is not just climate change, we have had a dry hot summer so far and grass dries out. Plenty of instances of forest fires all over the country in years gone bye, sadly caused by nature, a stray fag butt, disposable BBQ's, littered glass bottles & dickheads having a laugh.
Yes its been a hot couple of days, yes the high temps are probably down to climate change but you cannot pin everything on it, accidents, nature and dickheads have been around for a long time and will continue to be so.
The extreme temperatures plus the wind plus the very low humidity have significantly increased the fire risk.
Sky News is amongst the very worst of doom mongerers in this country. They have been showing the same loop of the Wennington fire for over 3 hours now and nothing else. They are desperate for this fire to spread across London and create a modern day Armageddon!
It needs to be shown so that those who keep downplaying the effects of Climate Change can see what we're facing.
It is not just climate change, we have had a dry hot summer so far and grass dries out. Plenty of instances of forest fires all over the country in years gone bye, sadly caused by nature, a stray fag butt, disposable BBQ's, littered glass bottles & dickheads having a laugh.
Yes its been a hot couple of days, yes the high temps are probably down to climate change but you cannot pin everything on it, accidents, nature and dickheads have been around for a long time and will continue to be so.
An oxymoron if ever I have heard one.
Yes, the majority of fires are man-made. However, the reason they require 30 fire engines-plus to sort out today is because of the heat and speed at which these fires spread due to the weather (and therefore climate change).
Sky News is amongst the very worst of doom mongerers in this country. They have been showing the same loop of the Wennington fire for over 3 hours now and nothing else. They are desperate for this fire to spread across London and create a modern day Armageddon!
It’s a 24 hour news channel run by people who know what they’re doing. They have very accurate viewing figures, and when these events happen their viewing figures go up. If they cut away to a court case (or something similar) people switch over to a different channel. It’s just the way it works.
They’re not scaremongering (whatever that is) and they have plenty of expert guests who know what they’re talking about. They seem to me to be doing a good job, and if that wakes a few climate change deniers up, then so much the better.
To say ‘they’re desperate for the fire to spread’ is nonsense, WW2 was a massive news story. That didn’t mean people wanted it to spread. I worked on many ‘dramatic’ news stories over the years that were ‘good for ratings’, but that didn’t mean I enjoyed the suffering of the people involved, or wanted fighting or rioting (or fire, flooding etc) to spread.
We all need to wake up or we, and more importantly our children, are fu@ked. And I’m including myself in the waking up thing. I argued with my climate change expert friend for years, and now it looks like he was right.
To round things off (for now !) - and thanks Virgin for crashing my TV, phone and BB in the middle of history being made (it's still off) - this is what happened this afternoon.
Max temp 41.1 at 15:45 Humidity 17% at 16:05 (station record) Temp 40 or above 13:30 to 17:15
How accurate are these figures ? The station is a professional version and is used by amateurs and industry globally - there isn't much competition. The location doesn't meet Met Office requirements but the wind today ensured that air was moved around and sheltered hit spots not created. So, I would say the numbers are representative of Hextable and surrounding area.
Need to put a NSFW tag on this thread the way some people are practically cumming all over the place now there are fires
Right on cue!
Have said before, I am in no way a climate change denier, it’s happening no doubt, I am just reflecting on the apparent glee of some on here that these fires are a way of supporting/reinforcing their own personal viewpoints.
Awful pictures on Sky News, so many people losing their houses.
Im a London firefighter, if you consider that at an average house fire, the brigade will usually send between 4 - 8 pumping appliances, you can see what my fellow firefighters are up against.
You do a brilliant job, it must be so difficult. I can't imagine what you must go through with heat like this.
The fact is we are on a course to disaster as a planet. That is 100% given. The trouble is very few of us are willing to change our lives enough to slow it down globally. We are constantly measured on GDP growth and you cant balance the two. Our best hope is that somewhere in the world there is a kid (probably on the autism spectrum) that will come up with a scientific method to reverse the damage that we are doing before it's too late. Otherwise we are facing extreme weather conditions, famine water shortage, mass migration, civil unrest and ultimately something resembling Mad Max for the few that remain. That isnt over reacting it's cold hard facts, not in our lifetime perhaps but certainly within the next 100 years
Need to put a NSFW tag on this thread the way some people are practically cumming all over the place now there are fires
Right on cue!
Have said before, I am in no way a climate change denier, it’s happening no doubt, I am just reflecting on the apparent glee of some on here that these fires are a way of supporting/reinforcing their own personal viewpoints.
Nobody is showing glee at these dreadful fires which have destroyed people's homes.
This is a serious subject but please all West stand season ticket holders don't put your Vests back on just because tomorrow may just be in the high 20's.
Sky News is amongst the very worst of doom mongerers in this country. They have been showing the same loop of the Wennington fire for over 3 hours now and nothing else. They are desperate for this fire to spread across London and create a modern day Armageddon!
It needs to be shown so that those who keep downplaying the effects of Climate Change can see what we're facing.
It is not just climate change, we have had a dry hot summer so far and grass dries out. Plenty of instances of forest fires all over the country in years gone bye, sadly caused by nature, a stray fag butt, disposable BBQ's, littered glass bottles & dickheads having a laugh.
Yes its been a hot couple of days, yes the high temps are probably down to climate change but you cannot pin everything on it, accidents, nature and dickheads have been around for a long time and will continue to be so.
Sorry ESM, no one is saying that the grass isn’t dry, or that there aren’t idiots around, or that fires aren’t started by accident, but we all need to look at the bigger picture.
It’s not easy to be informed on climate issues because TV channels won’t show documentaries about climate change. They used to (a friend of my wife’s used to make them in the 90s), but sadly TV channels say that no one wants to watch them, so it’s very hard to get them commissioned. Another friend has worked on a few that were made by independents, but never broadcast.
I probably wouldn’t want to watch them if I’m honest, and as someone who takes the family on two holidays a year (16 flights) I’m not even doing my bit. But if a government said it was two ‘holiday’ flights a year per person, that would be fine by me.
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The politicians do it and we do the same on here.
Everything is you and us.
And then there’s denying climate change - that’s called being idiotic.
Now I am no dunder head - I know about magnifying glass and paper etc - but it never occurred to me in terms of a grass fire - I always thought it was chucked cigarettes or portable BBQ’s or deliberate action
In 2020, when people were allowed to mix outdoors after lockdown, we took our dogs to Hall Place for a walk - it was packed with people having get togethers - there were bottles of wine and beer all over - it was the rubbish and discarded BBQ’s that pissed me off - just left scattered everywhere
But beer and wine bottles left there I just regarded as lazy gits leaving rubbish - never thought of them as being fire hazards
I was at Hall Place on Sunday - it’s parched - bone dry - if I see glass I will now pick it up, having watched those shocking scenes from Essex
Yes its been a hot couple of days, yes the high temps are probably down to climate change but you cannot pin everything on it, accidents, nature and dickheads have been around for a long time and will continue to be so.
Yes, the majority of fires are man-made. However, the reason they require 30 fire engines-plus to sort out today is because of the heat and speed at which these fires spread due to the weather (and therefore climate change).
Max temp 41.1 at 15:45
Humidity 17% at 16:05 (station record)
Temp 40 or above 13:30 to 17:15
How accurate are these figures ? The station is a professional version and is used by amateurs and industry globally - there isn't much competition. The location doesn't meet Met Office requirements but the wind today ensured that air was moved around and sheltered hit spots not created. So, I would say the numbers are representative of Hextable and surrounding area.