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Sandgaard ownership discussion 2022-3 onwards (Meeting with CAST p138)
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Don't these seem like minor quibbles rather than someone being majorly let down? I mean, if this is being majorly let down, what would you call the past four summers?carly burn said:
Bit of both really. One goes hand in hand with the other I suppose.Scoham said:
In what way, budget? Or number of signings? We released most players who were out of contract, realistically we weren’t going to move on several out of contract players.carly burn said:I have no real knowledge of Garners abilities but still think, as it stands, he's been badly let down in this transfer window.
Time will tell I suppose, but if the sh*t does hit the fan on the pitch relatively early on it will be interesting to see who's jugular the fans go for?.
The managers or the owners?
For instance, Letting Washington go was a big mistake. Not replacing him is an even bigger one. And I wasn't even Washington's biggest fan!
The whole thing looks seriously unbalanced to me. No depth in lots of areas. Excess depth in others. It just has a feel,to me anyway of one that is not capable of doing much.
Garner is starting the season with senior players in every position (and a full bench of them) which no manager has had for as long as I can remember.8 -
I understand the point you’re trying to make. But seriously go look at the squad after one game from the 18/19 season.carly burn said:
Bit of both really. One goes hand in hand with the other I suppose.Scoham said:
In what way, budget? Or number of signings? We released most players who were out of contract, realistically we weren’t going to move on several out of contract players.carly burn said:I have no real knowledge of Garners abilities but still think, as it stands, he's been badly let down in this transfer window.
Time will tell I suppose, but if the sh*t does hit the fan on the pitch relatively early on it will be interesting to see who's jugular the fans go for?.
The managers or the owners?
For instance, Letting Washington go was a big mistake. Not replacing him is an even bigger one. And I wasn't even Washington's biggest fan!
The whole thing looks seriously unbalanced to me. No depth in lots of areas. Excess depth in others. It just has a feel,to me anyway of one that is not capable of doing much.We’ve got more contracted players now than any other season in recent memory. I accept you might feel they’re not good enough and I’ll agree with you if we finish 13th again, but it’s really not that bad on paper at all.1 -
Don’t think that’s quite accurate for Powell. Much as I liked Yann, I think we’d have gone up without him and the rest was in place.Scoham said:
We’re clearly in a stronger position than last year when we had the likes of Ghandour and Clayden on the bench as our attacking options. Kirk and Fraser are effectively like new signings given how little they played last season. We’ve had to sign targets when they became available, you can’t wait until you’ve offloaded the players they’re replacing.carly burn said:
Bit of both really. One goes hand in hand with the other I suppose.Scoham said:
In what way, budget? Or number of signings? We released most players who were out of contract, realistically we weren’t going to move on several out of contract players.carly burn said:I have no real knowledge of Garners abilities but still think, as it stands, he's been badly let down in this transfer window.
Time will tell I suppose, but if the sh*t does hit the fan on the pitch relatively early on it will be interesting to see who's jugular the fans go for?.
The managers or the owners?
For instance, Letting Washington go was a big mistake. Not replacing him is an even bigger one. And I wasn't even Washington's biggest fan!
The whole thing looks seriously unbalanced to me. No depth in lots of areas. Excess depth in others. It just has a feel,to me anyway of one that is not capable of doing much.
I expect we’ll bring in at least a couple more while also letting at least one or two go which should solve some of those issues. The squad was never going to be finished by this point, that’s how it works at this level rather than being a mistake by TS.
It also depends how you see certain players, I think Clare will do well as a right back for example and don’t see Sessegnon preferring his right foot as big an issue as others do. I said during the Swansea game Leaburn should cause opponents problems this season and I won’t be surprised if one or two others step up to the first team.
I don’t know if it’ll come off but I can see what they’re trying to do, it feels like there’s more logic to it than there was last year. I do feel we need these last few signings to add some real quality, while that’s concerning it was also the case for Powell and Bowyer’s promotion sides.3 -
Interesting, so there is a dilemma here.
Be content that TS came in and moved some nasty characters away from any attachment to the Club. We were becoming a joke (validated by regular Talksport airtime)
Wish that somebody gave ESI millions and allow their crook-ways to have won, by using our club as some sort of ______.0 -
If the mighty teams on paper we've seen in recent years had stayed on paper and not on the pitch then maybe we would be contesting a champions League spot this season!BR7_addick said:
I understand the point you’re trying to make. But seriously go look at the squad after one game from the 18/19 season.carly burn said:
Bit of both really. One goes hand in hand with the other I suppose.Scoham said:
In what way, budget? Or number of signings? We released most players who were out of contract, realistically we weren’t going to move on several out of contract players.carly burn said:I have no real knowledge of Garners abilities but still think, as it stands, he's been badly let down in this transfer window.
Time will tell I suppose, but if the sh*t does hit the fan on the pitch relatively early on it will be interesting to see who's jugular the fans go for?.
The managers or the owners?
For instance, Letting Washington go was a big mistake. Not replacing him is an even bigger one. And I wasn't even Washington's biggest fan!
The whole thing looks seriously unbalanced to me. No depth in lots of areas. Excess depth in others. It just has a feel,to me anyway of one that is not capable of doing much.We’ve got more contracted players now than any other season in recent memory. I accept you might feel they’re not good enough and I’ll agree with you if we finish 13th again, but it’s really not that bad on paper at all.
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Apathy is far more concerning than anger.Airman Brown said:
I think people will just stop going if that happens. You’ll see attendances of 8,000 and fewer.carly burn said:I have no real knowledge of Garners abilities but still think, as it stands, he's been badly let down in this transfer window.
Time will tell I suppose, but if the sh*t does hit the fan on the pitch relatively early on it will be interesting to see who's jugular the fans go for?.
The managers or the owners?
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I don't. He was the epitome of a talisman and his link-up play was crucial to pretty much everything we did.Airman Brown said:
Don’t think that’s quite accurate for Powell. Much as I liked Yann, I think we’d have gone up without him and the rest was in place.Scoham said:
We’re clearly in a stronger position than last year when we had the likes of Ghandour and Clayden on the bench as our attacking options. Kirk and Fraser are effectively like new signings given how little they played last season. We’ve had to sign targets when they became available, you can’t wait until you’ve offloaded the players they’re replacing.carly burn said:
Bit of both really. One goes hand in hand with the other I suppose.Scoham said:
In what way, budget? Or number of signings? We released most players who were out of contract, realistically we weren’t going to move on several out of contract players.carly burn said:I have no real knowledge of Garners abilities but still think, as it stands, he's been badly let down in this transfer window.
Time will tell I suppose, but if the sh*t does hit the fan on the pitch relatively early on it will be interesting to see who's jugular the fans go for?.
The managers or the owners?
For instance, Letting Washington go was a big mistake. Not replacing him is an even bigger one. And I wasn't even Washington's biggest fan!
The whole thing looks seriously unbalanced to me. No depth in lots of areas. Excess depth in others. It just has a feel,to me anyway of one that is not capable of doing much.
I expect we’ll bring in at least a couple more while also letting at least one or two go which should solve some of those issues. The squad was never going to be finished by this point, that’s how it works at this level rather than being a mistake by TS.
It also depends how you see certain players, I think Clare will do well as a right back for example and don’t see Sessegnon preferring his right foot as big an issue as others do. I said during the Swansea game Leaburn should cause opponents problems this season and I won’t be surprised if one or two others step up to the first team.
I don’t know if it’ll come off but I can see what they’re trying to do, it feels like there’s more logic to it than there was last year. I do feel we need these last few signings to add some real quality, while that’s concerning it was also the case for Powell and Bowyer’s promotion sides.7 -
100% thisRodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Apathy is far more concerning than anger.Airman Brown said:
I think people will just stop going if that happens. You’ll see attendances of 8,000 and fewer.carly burn said:I have no real knowledge of Garners abilities but still think, as it stands, he's been badly let down in this transfer window.
Time will tell I suppose, but if the sh*t does hit the fan on the pitch relatively early on it will be interesting to see who's jugular the fans go for?.
The managers or the owners?0 -
There’s no doubt Yann took that team up another level and Cort also signed late in the window. We were fortunate with injuries meaning Cort didn’t play much until towards but without him Doherty would have been 3rd choice centre back.Airman Brown said:
Don’t think that’s quite accurate for Powell. Much as I liked Yann, I think we’d have gone up without him and the rest was in place.Scoham said:
We’re clearly in a stronger position than last year when we had the likes of Ghandour and Clayden on the bench as our attacking options. Kirk and Fraser are effectively like new signings given how little they played last season. We’ve had to sign targets when they became available, you can’t wait until you’ve offloaded the players they’re replacing.carly burn said:
Bit of both really. One goes hand in hand with the other I suppose.Scoham said:
In what way, budget? Or number of signings? We released most players who were out of contract, realistically we weren’t going to move on several out of contract players.carly burn said:I have no real knowledge of Garners abilities but still think, as it stands, he's been badly let down in this transfer window.
Time will tell I suppose, but if the sh*t does hit the fan on the pitch relatively early on it will be interesting to see who's jugular the fans go for?.
The managers or the owners?
For instance, Letting Washington go was a big mistake. Not replacing him is an even bigger one. And I wasn't even Washington's biggest fan!
The whole thing looks seriously unbalanced to me. No depth in lots of areas. Excess depth in others. It just has a feel,to me anyway of one that is not capable of doing much.
I expect we’ll bring in at least a couple more while also letting at least one or two go which should solve some of those issues. The squad was never going to be finished by this point, that’s how it works at this level rather than being a mistake by TS.
It also depends how you see certain players, I think Clare will do well as a right back for example and don’t see Sessegnon preferring his right foot as big an issue as others do. I said during the Swansea game Leaburn should cause opponents problems this season and I won’t be surprised if one or two others step up to the first team.
I don’t know if it’ll come off but I can see what they’re trying to do, it feels like there’s more logic to it than there was last year. I do feel we need these last few signings to add some real quality, while that’s concerning it was also the case for Powell and Bowyer’s promotion sides.2 -
I did like Cort.Scoham said:
There’s no doubt Yann took that team up another level and Cort also signed late in the window. We were fortunate with injuries meaning Cort didn’t play much until towards but without him Doherty would have been 3rd choice centre back.Airman Brown said:
Don’t think that’s quite accurate for Powell. Much as I liked Yann, I think we’d have gone up without him and the rest was in place.Scoham said:
We’re clearly in a stronger position than last year when we had the likes of Ghandour and Clayden on the bench as our attacking options. Kirk and Fraser are effectively like new signings given how little they played last season. We’ve had to sign targets when they became available, you can’t wait until you’ve offloaded the players they’re replacing.carly burn said:
Bit of both really. One goes hand in hand with the other I suppose.Scoham said:
In what way, budget? Or number of signings? We released most players who were out of contract, realistically we weren’t going to move on several out of contract players.carly burn said:I have no real knowledge of Garners abilities but still think, as it stands, he's been badly let down in this transfer window.
Time will tell I suppose, but if the sh*t does hit the fan on the pitch relatively early on it will be interesting to see who's jugular the fans go for?.
The managers or the owners?
For instance, Letting Washington go was a big mistake. Not replacing him is an even bigger one. And I wasn't even Washington's biggest fan!
The whole thing looks seriously unbalanced to me. No depth in lots of areas. Excess depth in others. It just has a feel,to me anyway of one that is not capable of doing much.
I expect we’ll bring in at least a couple more while also letting at least one or two go which should solve some of those issues. The squad was never going to be finished by this point, that’s how it works at this level rather than being a mistake by TS.
It also depends how you see certain players, I think Clare will do well as a right back for example and don’t see Sessegnon preferring his right foot as big an issue as others do. I said during the Swansea game Leaburn should cause opponents problems this season and I won’t be surprised if one or two others step up to the first team.
I don’t know if it’ll come off but I can see what they’re trying to do, it feels like there’s more logic to it than there was last year. I do feel we need these last few signings to add some real quality, while that’s concerning it was also the case for Powell and Bowyer’s promotion sides.8 - Sponsored links:
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It sure it’s apathy. More like despair.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Apathy is far more concerning than anger.Airman Brown said:
I think people will just stop going if that happens. You’ll see attendances of 8,000 and fewer.carly burn said:I have no real knowledge of Garners abilities but still think, as it stands, he's been badly let down in this transfer window.
Time will tell I suppose, but if the sh*t does hit the fan on the pitch relatively early on it will be interesting to see who's jugular the fans go for?.
The managers or the owners?1 -
Did Cort come on here and say thank you after he left ?Airman Brown said:
I did like Cort.Scoham said:
There’s no doubt Yann took that team up another level and Cort also signed late in the window. We were fortunate with injuries meaning Cort didn’t play much until towards but without him Doherty would have been 3rd choice centre back.Airman Brown said:
Don’t think that’s quite accurate for Powell. Much as I liked Yann, I think we’d have gone up without him and the rest was in place.Scoham said:
We’re clearly in a stronger position than last year when we had the likes of Ghandour and Clayden on the bench as our attacking options. Kirk and Fraser are effectively like new signings given how little they played last season. We’ve had to sign targets when they became available, you can’t wait until you’ve offloaded the players they’re replacing.carly burn said:
Bit of both really. One goes hand in hand with the other I suppose.Scoham said:
In what way, budget? Or number of signings? We released most players who were out of contract, realistically we weren’t going to move on several out of contract players.carly burn said:I have no real knowledge of Garners abilities but still think, as it stands, he's been badly let down in this transfer window.
Time will tell I suppose, but if the sh*t does hit the fan on the pitch relatively early on it will be interesting to see who's jugular the fans go for?.
The managers or the owners?
For instance, Letting Washington go was a big mistake. Not replacing him is an even bigger one. And I wasn't even Washington's biggest fan!
The whole thing looks seriously unbalanced to me. No depth in lots of areas. Excess depth in others. It just has a feel,to me anyway of one that is not capable of doing much.
I expect we’ll bring in at least a couple more while also letting at least one or two go which should solve some of those issues. The squad was never going to be finished by this point, that’s how it works at this level rather than being a mistake by TS.
It also depends how you see certain players, I think Clare will do well as a right back for example and don’t see Sessegnon preferring his right foot as big an issue as others do. I said during the Swansea game Leaburn should cause opponents problems this season and I won’t be surprised if one or two others step up to the first team.
I don’t know if it’ll come off but I can see what they’re trying to do, it feels like there’s more logic to it than there was last year. I do feel we need these last few signings to add some real quality, while that’s concerning it was also the case for Powell and Bowyer’s promotion sides.1 -
oohaahmortimer said:
Did Cort come on here and say thank you after he left ?Airman Brown said:
I did like Cort.Scoham said:
There’s no doubt Yann took that team up another level and Cort also signed late in the window. We were fortunate with injuries meaning Cort didn’t play much until towards but without him Doherty would have been 3rd choice centre back.Airman Brown said:
Don’t think that’s quite accurate for Powell. Much as I liked Yann, I think we’d have gone up without him and the rest was in place.Scoham said:
We’re clearly in a stronger position than last year when we had the likes of Ghandour and Clayden on the bench as our attacking options. Kirk and Fraser are effectively like new signings given how little they played last season. We’ve had to sign targets when they became available, you can’t wait until you’ve offloaded the players they’re replacing.carly burn said:
Bit of both really. One goes hand in hand with the other I suppose.Scoham said:
In what way, budget? Or number of signings? We released most players who were out of contract, realistically we weren’t going to move on several out of contract players.carly burn said:I have no real knowledge of Garners abilities but still think, as it stands, he's been badly let down in this transfer window.
Time will tell I suppose, but if the sh*t does hit the fan on the pitch relatively early on it will be interesting to see who's jugular the fans go for?.
The managers or the owners?
For instance, Letting Washington go was a big mistake. Not replacing him is an even bigger one. And I wasn't even Washington's biggest fan!
The whole thing looks seriously unbalanced to me. No depth in lots of areas. Excess depth in others. It just has a feel,to me anyway of one that is not capable of doing much.
I expect we’ll bring in at least a couple more while also letting at least one or two go which should solve some of those issues. The squad was never going to be finished by this point, that’s how it works at this level rather than being a mistake by TS.
It also depends how you see certain players, I think Clare will do well as a right back for example and don’t see Sessegnon preferring his right foot as big an issue as others do. I said during the Swansea game Leaburn should cause opponents problems this season and I won’t be surprised if one or two others step up to the first team.
I don’t know if it’ll come off but I can see what they’re trying to do, it feels like there’s more logic to it than there was last year. I do feel we need these last few signings to add some real quality, while that’s concerning it was also the case for Powell and Bowyer’s promotion sides.Just like to say that I thank you all for the support you've given me in the couple years I've had there. I've enjoyed it all....especially the first league goal against Birmingham. Some like me and some don't, which is completely fine as you can't be everyone's cup of tea. But I always gave my all and you guys gave it back to me and I felt real love from you guys all the time. All the best for the future and hope the club gets stability soon! You deserve it. I hope to get a club as I feel good again. But you guys have been FANTASTIC! Good times and bad you've stuck with me and the boys!
Be good!
Corty.
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Yann turned us from a play off team to a title winning team
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When I started going in the 70's, that was a period of apathy and attendances fluctuated between 7k to 9k, over 10k for London derbies, but that was in the old Division 2, so at a higher level than we are now.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Apathy is far more concerning than anger.Airman Brown said:
I think people will just stop going if that happens. You’ll see attendances of 8,000 and fewer.carly burn said:I have no real knowledge of Garners abilities but still think, as it stands, he's been badly let down in this transfer window.
Time will tell I suppose, but if the sh*t does hit the fan on the pitch relatively early on it will be interesting to see who's jugular the fans go for?.
The managers or the owners?
Not sure what this adds to the debate other than to show much has happened between then and now, some of it very good, so don't be too despondent. Good times could be just round the corner, and for some older than others on here to enjoy them, they need to be.
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He was sadly one of those players who like Jordan Rhodes fell into that abyss of a gap where he wasnt good enough for the Premier League, but was better than the Championship - Still remember how he tore us a new one when Bournemouth came to the Valley as Champions, kept dropping deep from centre, which allowed Ritchie and Wilson to play off him.Rothko said:Yann turned us from a play off team to a title winning team
Even a few years later when we played Reading, we just couldn't handle him.
He's perhaps the one ex-player that I couldn't begrudge when he single handedly tore us apart in those two games - Probably because when he departed, it wasn't due to a player throwing toys out of a pram, but a twat of an owner unable to see the gem he already had.10 -
Apathy generally overstated the "boycott" IMO.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Apathy is far more concerning than anger.Airman Brown said:
I think people will just stop going if that happens. You’ll see attendances of 8,000 and fewer.carly burn said:I have no real knowledge of Garners abilities but still think, as it stands, he's been badly let down in this transfer window.
Time will tell I suppose, but if the sh*t does hit the fan on the pitch relatively early on it will be interesting to see who's jugular the fans go for?.
The managers or the owners?0 -
He was widely applauded by Charlton fans when he scored against us.ForeverAddickted said:
He was sadly one of those players who like Jordan Rhodes fell into that abyss of a gap where he wasnt good enough for the Premier League, but was better than the Championship - Still remember how he tore us a new one when Bournemouth came to the Valley as Champions, kept dropping deep from centre, which allowed Ritchie and Wilson to play off him.Rothko said:Yann turned us from a play off team to a title winning team
Even a few years later when we played Reading, we just couldn't handle him.
He's perhaps the one ex-player that I couldn't begrudge when he single handedly tore us apart in those two games - Probably because when he departed, it wasn't due to a player throwing toys out of a pram, but a twat of an owner unable to see the gem he already had.5 -
What is frustrating is that when Yann visited the Valley with Reading, the twat of an owner probably wasn't watching the game. This was the player who wasn't good enough lest we forget. Had he watched the game Old Yellow Tooth would surely have seen what a fool he was. Mind you, probably not. He had no awareness of how shit an owner he was did he?3
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Yeah that was a bizarre game against Reading.ElfsborgAddick said:
He was widely applauded by Charlton fans when he scored against us.ForeverAddickted said:
He was sadly one of those players who like Jordan Rhodes fell into that abyss of a gap where he wasnt good enough for the Premier League, but was better than the Championship - Still remember how he tore us a new one when Bournemouth came to the Valley as Champions, kept dropping deep from centre, which allowed Ritchie and Wilson to play off him.Rothko said:Yann turned us from a play off team to a title winning team
Even a few years later when we played Reading, we just couldn't handle him.
He's perhaps the one ex-player that I couldn't begrudge when he single handedly tore us apart in those two games - Probably because when he departed, it wasn't due to a player throwing toys out of a pram, but a twat of an owner unable to see the gem he already had.0 -
I never said you were.paulfox said:
Yet again, for clarification, I’m not defending sandgaards actions, I’m defending his right to do as he wishes and to get things right. I don’t think people would admit they were completely wrong, they still may not end up being wrong. They would just say they were entitled to have doubts and celebrate like the rest like nothing had happened, then find something else to moan about. Winning games will dampen a lot of noise I’m sure. Let’s wait to see the comments once TS has been on the pitch today and see which were worthwhile and which were just bitching about him. People want they’re cake and eat it. Thanks for lols in advance by the way from the regulars.👍😂cafcfan1990 said:
I never said 95% are happy, I said they were happy to give Sandgaard an opportunity. Like I said, I don't think that automatically means they cannot criticise, it shouldn't be all or nothing. We've all moaned about our partners and/or friends, doesn't mean you want rid of them. I moan about Charlton all the bloody time, but I won't stop them supporting the club. Of course, that works best ways and for those defending Sandgaard at every opportunity they're welcome to that opinion. 99% of fans aiming any criticism towards Sandgaard would love to turn around in the future and admit they were wrong.paulfox said:
No not at all, but those people also need to respect others opinion and not try and shut them up if they disagree.Seems to be a lot of doubt and moaning if 95% are happy though. We are never going to have the perfect owner so sometimes better the devil you know.cafcfan1990 said:
Yes, we would be in danger of "hounding him out" if we were protesting or anything similar. Having doubts, questioning some of his decision making and criticising some of his actions is miles away from anything like hounding him out. Sandgaard is not being treated like Roland was (rightfully so). From what I can see/read, 95% of fans are more than happy to give him the opportunity to get things right, but that doesn't mean they can't have an opinion does it?paulfox said:Would we be in danger of hounding out another owner? And regretting it? Rightfully the action was taken against RD, The same people now are having doubts about TS, who appears to be a different type of person. If he was, who do people expect to pick up the mantle. Feels like we are going around in circles. Any people with doubts need to be 100% sure and have facts that this guy isn’t for us, otherwise it’s just unhelpful noise and maybe let him try and get things right. I don’t care if it’s TS or anyone else as long as the club on and off the pitch are in the right place.I don’t think people will be completely wrong though. Even if we end up getting to the Prem under Sandgaard, doesn’t mean that some of the criticism along the way was unjustified does it? I agree there’s a select few that want to dig Sandgaard out whatever he does, but that’s a very small minority.2 -
The Bournemouth game was quite bizarre too, watching and admiring a Yann masterclass, whilst knowing what could and should have been.ForeverAddickted said:
Yeah that was a bizarre game against Reading.ElfsborgAddick said:
He was widely applauded by Charlton fans when he scored against us.ForeverAddickted said:
He was sadly one of those players who like Jordan Rhodes fell into that abyss of a gap where he wasnt good enough for the Premier League, but was better than the Championship - Still remember how he tore us a new one when Bournemouth came to the Valley as Champions, kept dropping deep from centre, which allowed Ritchie and Wilson to play off him.Rothko said:Yann turned us from a play off team to a title winning team
Even a few years later when we played Reading, we just couldn't handle him.
He's perhaps the one ex-player that I couldn't begrudge when he single handedly tore us apart in those two games - Probably because when he departed, it wasn't due to a player throwing toys out of a pram, but a twat of an owner unable to see the gem he already had.3 -
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I never said you were.paulfox said:
Yet again, for clarification, I’m not defending sandgaards actions, I’m defending his right to do as he wishes and to get things right. I don’t think people would admit they were completely wrong, they still may not end up being wrong. They would just say they were entitled to have doubts and celebrate like the rest like nothing had happened, then find something else to moan about. Winning games will dampen a lot of noise I’m sure. Let’s wait to see the comments once TS has been on the pitch today and see which were worthwhile and which were just bitching about him. People want they’re cake and eat it. Thanks for lols in advance by the way from the regulars.👍😂cafcfan1990 said:
I never said 95% are happy, I said they were happy to give Sandgaard an opportunity. Like I said, I don't think that automatically means they cannot criticise, it shouldn't be all or nothing. We've all moaned about our partners and/or friends, doesn't mean you want rid of them. I moan about Charlton all the bloody time, but I won't stop them supporting the club. Of course, that works best ways and for those defending Sandgaard at every opportunity they're welcome to that opinion. 99% of fans aiming any criticism towards Sandgaard would love to turn around in the future and admit they were wrong.paulfox said:
No not at all, but those people also need to respect others opinion and not try and shut them up if they disagree.Seems to be a lot of doubt and moaning if 95% are happy though. We are never going to have the perfect owner so sometimes better the devil you know.cafcfan1990 said:
Yes, we would be in danger of "hounding him out" if we were protesting or anything similar. Having doubts, questioning some of his decision making and criticising some of his actions is miles away from anything like hounding him out. Sandgaard is not being treated like Roland was (rightfully so). From what I can see/read, 95% of fans are more than happy to give him the opportunity to get things right, but that doesn't mean they can't have an opinion does it?paulfox said:Would we be in danger of hounding out another owner? And regretting it? Rightfully the action was taken against RD, The same people now are having doubts about TS, who appears to be a different type of person. If he was, who do people expect to pick up the mantle. Feels like we are going around in circles. Any people with doubts need to be 100% sure and have facts that this guy isn’t for us, otherwise it’s just unhelpful noise and maybe let him try and get things right. I don’t care if it’s TS or anyone else as long as the club on and off the pitch are in the right place.I don’t think people will be completely wrong though. Even if we end up getting to the Prem under Sandgaard, doesn’t mean that some of the criticism along the way was unjustified does it? I agree there’s a select few that want to dig Sandgaard out whatever he does, but that’s a very small minority.0 -
Or how goodnwe looked without him in the Huddersfield home game.....Smithy said:
Definitely. I remember when he was injured or suspended for Huddersfield away that season and how average we looked without him.Rothko said:Yann turned us from a play off team to a title winning team
I think without Yann we would have finished in the top 3.0 -
Yann scored in that game.Cafc43v3r said:
Or how goodnwe looked without him in the Huddersfield home game.....Smithy said:
Definitely. I remember when he was injured or suspended for Huddersfield away that season and how average we looked without him.Rothko said:Yann turned us from a play off team to a title winning team
I think without Yann we would have finished in the top 3.3 -
Yup I am thinking of a different game!superclive98 said:
Yann scored in that game.Cafc43v3r said:
Or how goodnwe looked without him in the Huddersfield home game.....Smithy said:
Definitely. I remember when he was injured or suspended for Huddersfield away that season and how average we looked without him.Rothko said:Yann turned us from a play off team to a title winning team
I think without Yann we would have finished in the top 3.
Now I can't even think about what game I was thinking about....
Oh well I would still say we had a very good team without him, obviously a better one with him it though.0 -
Excellent idea.Clarky said:
Its comments like this that really grate on me. Seriously, why does it matter? If you are going to the game stay in the concourse and have a beer and ignore what he is saying on the pitch, it really is that simple. And then tomorrow when you read on here what he said you can have another dig at him. Win, win for you!charltonbob said:
Seriously, WHY ??? Look at me ?Scoham said:TS being interviewed on the pitch tomorrow.
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/eight-things-do-derby-clash0 -
Agree, never thought Hayes was quite good enough, Yann was quality.Rothko said:Yann turned us from a play off team to a title winning team0 -
I now have proof TS is potless. One of the bog doors in the first toilets in the East Stand has been missing a lock for the second season now. How much would that be to repair? And if only we had someone in charge of such things.
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