I’m simply astounded by this thread but I wont engage with this apparent majority opinion. But I would ask you all to stop slagging one of our own players for a moment and ask yourself a more important question.
How exactly did the FA get to review this offence? As far as I can recall it is absolutely unprecedented. It was not seen by the ref. Was it the 4th official? If so why exactly was this one raised for retrospective review when we can all think of loads of serious incidents on the streams which never got this scrutiny, because they were not pored over on MOTD. These include challenges on our players which result in them being taken off and then missing games.
FFS. Indeed.
Similar process to how Sam Findlay got banned for stamping on Lyle Taylor? I think the club made a complaint to the league and they reviewed the footage.
I’m simply astounded by this thread but I wont engage with this apparent majority opinion. But I would ask you all to stop slagging one of our own players for a moment and ask yourself a more important question.
How exactly did the FA get to review this offence? As far as I can recall it is absolutely unprecedented. It was not seen by the ref. Was it the 4th official? If so why exactly was this one raised for retrospective review when we can all think of loads of serious incidents on the streams which never got this scrutiny, because they were not pored over on MOTD. These include challenges on our players which result in them being taken off and then missing games.
FFS. Indeed.
Similar process to how Sam Findlay got banned for stamping on Lyle Taylor? I think the club made a complaint to the league and they reviewed the footage.
Doesn't it go to the ref in the first instance?
He can't give what he hasn't seen. Along the lines of why didnt you send him off for that elbow? What elbow? The one midway through the first half. Reviews the footage, oh that elbow I didn't see it, if I had....
I’m simply astounded by this thread but I wont engage with this apparent majority opinion. But I would ask you all to stop slagging one of our own players for a moment and ask yourself a more important question.
How exactly did the FA get to review this offence? As far as I can recall it is absolutely unprecedented. It was not seen by the ref. Was it the 4th official? If so why exactly was this one raised for retrospective review when we can all think of loads of serious incidents on the streams which never got this scrutiny, because they were not pored over on MOTD. These include challenges on our players which result in them being taken off and then missing games.
I’m simply astounded by this thread but I wont engage with this apparent majority opinion. But I would ask you all to stop slagging one of our own players for a moment and ask yourself a more important question.
How exactly did the FA get to review this offence? As far as I can recall it is absolutely unprecedented. It was not seen by the ref. Was it the 4th official? If so why exactly was this one raised for retrospective review when we can all think of loads of serious incidents on the streams which never got this scrutiny, because they were not pored over on MOTD. These include challenges on our players which result in them being taken off and then missing games.
FFS. Indeed.
Similar process to how Sam Findlay got banned for stamping on Lyle Taylor? I think the club made a complaint to the league and they reviewed the footage and then decided that in all fairness everyone wanted to stamp on Lyle Taylor and it was only natural.
Tha fans reaction to Innis's thug action was similar. Stockley's just elbowed somebody's head in a snidey manner, so deserves the fans wrath. We shouldn't be bloody comforting him or pointing towards the FA being able to review post match footage if it is raised and deemed worthy.
Can’t believe the Port Vale players didn’t make more of it at the time, it was such a blatant red card and standard petulant behaviour from a truly awful captain. I assume action has been taken because Port Vale put in a complaint?
This won’t have any impact on our chances in games thankfully but I do hope we don’t panic into starting Aneke.
I’m simply astounded by this thread but I wont engage with this apparent majority opinion. But I would ask you all to stop slagging one of our own players for a moment and ask yourself a more important question.
How exactly did the FA get to review this offence? As far as I can recall it is absolutely unprecedented. It was not seen by the ref. Was it the 4th official? If so why exactly was this one raised for retrospective review when we can all think of loads of serious incidents on the streams which never got this scrutiny, because they were not pored over on MOTD. These include challenges on our players which result in them being taken off and then missing games.
FFS. Indeed.
Bang on Mate, if that was on their centre half Smith he was at it all game also. As you say unprecedented. Look forward to seeing other clubs suffer it too.
Tha fans reaction to Innis's thug action was similar. Stockley's just elbowed somebody's head in a snidey manner, so deserves the fans wrath. We shouldn't be bloody comforting him or pointing towards the FA being able to review post match footage if it is raised and deemed worthy.
Wrath is one thing. We should be angry and we are
byt many are rebelling in not having him in the team and we are undoubtedly weaker now on an area we can Ill afford
Having said that it’s an opportunity to strip him of the captaincy and I would think that’s a possibility. I like him as a player but don’t think he is a captain.
Tha fans reaction to Innis's thug action was similar. Stockley's just elbowed somebody's head in a snidey manner, so deserves the fans wrath. We shouldn't be bloody comforting him or pointing towards the FA being able to review post match footage if it is raised and deemed worthy.
Wrath is one thing. We should be angry and we are
but many are rebelling in not having him in the team and we are undoubtedly weaker now on an area we can Ill afford
Having said that it’s an opportunity to strip him of the captaincy and I would think that’s a possibility. I like him as a player but don’t think he is a captain.
I think different people have different ways of expressing things. Just a shame if they are going for words that will lead to shock, etc. Maybe you are reading to seriously into posts from people like SillyBilly (bit of a hint in the name):
First bit of good news for a while. Would be as well playing me up front and I’ve only got one leg!
Stockley is not having a particularly good season but every one of us would want him available not banned.
Just more unecessary squad pressure.
Take your point. But it's just plain stupid from stockley. Does he turn into some kind of moron once the game starts? He's clearly not an idiot off the pitch. But he's the club captain, for god's sake, and his behaviour was petulant, irresponsible and selfish. Deserves a fine and ban and to lose the captaincy. Whatever his frustrations with the way things are going, he's not setting a captain's example and he'd have been red carded if the ref had seen it, putting us down to ten men with over an hour to play. And now we've lost the closest thing we've got to a functioning striker for three games. Thanks a lot. I really hope someone else takes their chance and keeps him on the bench for several weeks. (All the above assumes the punishment fits the crime - like the ref, I haven't actually seen it)
Stockley is not having a particularly good season but every one of us would want him available not banned.
Just more unecessary squad pressure.
I regret to say, guvnor, that on this occasion I’m a lot less sanguine about my fellow Lifers than you. @Swisdom an honourable exception.
Have you seen his body of work this season? It's been sub-Gilbey. He's offered absolutely nothing and his lack of presence or ability to move has stymied our entire playing style. It is genuinely going to be a relief to see us try something different. No apologies. I don't boo our own players during games but I don't see anything wrong with expressing relief that we're not going to have to watch him struggle for a while
I’m simply astounded by this thread but I wont engage with this apparent majority opinion. But I would ask you all to stop slagging one of our own players for a moment and ask yourself a more important question.
How exactly did the FA get to review this offence? As far as I can recall it is absolutely unprecedented. It was not seen by the ref. Was it the 4th official? If so why exactly was this one raised for retrospective review when we can all think of loads of serious incidents on the streams which never got this scrutiny, because they were not pored over on MOTD. These include challenges on our players which result in them being taken off and then missing games.
FFS. Indeed.
Bang on Mate, if that was on their centre half Smith he was at it all game also. As you say unprecedented. Look forward to seeing other clubs suffer it too.
Both the elbow in the first half, and the stamp in the second were on Port Vale defender Nathan Smith.
I am obviously in the minority here but I think many of the snide comments re JS are appalling and way out of order. Isn’t it enough to just say he’s having one hell of a lousy season without irksome smart arse slagging off comments. I feel sorry for all concerned, none more so than Stockley himself. He performed very well for us last season, scoring 20 + goals I believe. His lack of form is horrendous, leaving aside the change in our set up he should still be putting a few chances away here and there at the very least…..but no, he’s not even winning heading duals, something that he excelled in last season. I can’t begin to think what’s gone wrong with him…..but I’m dammed if I am going to heartlessly slag him off, especially when last season he was something of a hero for us. Whether or not he will ever regain his form is debatable, if not I and many others will be left wondering just what went wrong in such short a period of time? I am certain he himself is bewildered and very disappointed, I suspect he doesn’t know the answer either as to how this has come about. I for one am not going to insult and slag off the fella who had us out of out seats 20+ times last season and his name being chanted on many occasions. Let’s just say it’s a sad situation, which we can only hope gets better for everyone’s sake.
So it appears from @shirty5 post that this is not a one -off. OK. In which case the FA should tell us the exact rules under which they scrutinise a video several days after the event (how many days?) and hand out retrospective penalties. Because Terry Smith (@KillersBeard?) could probably compile a 30 minute reel of footage he would like them to consider. Off the top of my head there was a two footed challenge on JFC - of all people - who fortunately took evasive action but demanded to know what the fuck the ref was doing allowing it; a challenge on Campbell in the first half against MKD which meant he had to be subbed at H-T; and I think a CBT injury was the result of a challenge the ref didnt even call a foul.
But yeah, lets all go on about Stockley's "stamp", FFS. I saw that. (which is more than anyone can truthfully claim of the elbow). Come off it. Might have been more careful as he picked himself up after the challenge but that's about it.
I honestly love Chuks, and watching him play, but this again shows the folly of bringing in a player who can't start matches (even if he is absolutely next level off the bench). The moment you get a couple of injuries or suspensions - which is very much par for the course when you play this many games over a season - then you end up in a position that unless you have a quality surplus striker you are then needing him to start or relying on playing players out of position.
In terms of Stockley, never understand the need to continuously lay into him at every opportunity, but all in all, perhaps this might work out to be a blessing for everyone involved if we can somehow plug the gap with someone more effective then him (though I cannot see who that will be apart from Chuks). And if not, maybe the few games off might give him a break to come back and be more effective (though I doubt that as well).
Honestly I'm still of the opinion he hasn't properly recovered from his back injury from last season and has only kept playing because we have no choice with our forward options.
Maybe a few weeks break will do him some good and he can come back stronger and a bit more competitive.
So it appears from @shirty5 post that this is not a one -off. OK. In which case the FA should tell us the exact rules under which they scrutinise a video several days after the event (how many days?) and hand out retrospective penalties. Because Terry Smith (@KillersBeard?) could probably compile a 30 minute reel of footage he would like them to consider. Off the top of my head there was a two footed challenge on JFC - of all people - who fortunately took evasive action but demanded to know what the fuck the ref was doing allowing it; a challenge on Campbell in the first half against MKD which meant he had to be subbed at H-T; and I think a CBT injury was the result of a challenge the ref didnt even call a foul.
But yeah, let’s all go on about Stockley's "stamp", FFS. I saw that. (which is more than anyone can truthfully claim of the elbow). Come off it. Might have been more careful as he picked himself up after the challenge but that's about it.
Plenty of people, including myself, saw the elbow. Not sure what you’re going on about here.
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Kanu is not ready for the first team for extended periods and certainly not leading the line yet.
This ban is not good news at all and will highlight just how short we are in the squad
He can't give what he hasn't seen. Along the lines of why didnt you send him off for that elbow? What elbow? The one midway through the first half. Reviews the footage, oh that elbow I didn't see it, if I had....
Ah, it's Jayden Stockley whining....
" Infamy ! Infamy ! The FA's got it infamy ! "
This won’t have any impact on our chances in games thankfully but I do hope we don’t panic into starting Aneke.
Stockley is not having a particularly good season but every one of us would want him available not banned.
byt many are rebelling in not having him in the team and we are undoubtedly weaker now on an area we can Ill afford
Having said that it’s an opportunity to strip him of the captaincy and I would think that’s a possibility. I like him as a player but don’t think he is a captain.
First bit of good news for a while. Would be as well playing me up front and I’ve only got one leg!
Whatever his frustrations with the way things are going, he's not setting a captain's example and he'd have been red carded if the ref had seen it, putting us down to ten men with over an hour to play. And now we've lost the closest thing we've got to a functioning striker for three games. Thanks a lot. I really hope someone else takes their chance and keeps him on the bench for several weeks.
(All the above assumes the punishment fits the crime - like the ref, I haven't actually seen it)
Aneke had a tussle with him late on as well.
Isn’t it enough to just say he’s having one hell of a lousy season without irksome smart arse slagging off comments.
I feel sorry for all concerned, none more so than Stockley himself.
He performed very well for us last season, scoring 20 + goals I believe.
His lack of form is horrendous, leaving aside the change in our set up he should still be putting a few chances away here and there at the very least…..but no, he’s not even winning heading duals, something that he excelled in last season.
I can’t begin to think what’s gone wrong with him…..but I’m dammed if I am going to heartlessly slag him off, especially when last season he was something of a hero for us.
Whether or not he will ever regain his form is debatable, if not I and many others will be left wondering just what went wrong in such short a period of time?
I am certain he himself is bewildered and very disappointed, I suspect he doesn’t know the answer either as to how this has come about.
I for one am not going to insult and slag off the fella who had us out of out seats 20+ times last season and his name being chanted on many occasions.
Let’s just say it’s a sad situation, which we can only hope gets better for everyone’s sake.
But yeah, lets all go on about Stockley's "stamp", FFS. I saw that. (which is more than anyone can truthfully claim of the elbow). Come off it. Might have been more careful as he picked himself up after the challenge but that's about it.
He should have done this a couple of weeks later. Then he would have got Christmas off.
Needs to have a word with Danny Mills so he can get his timing right in future,
In terms of Stockley, never understand the need to continuously lay into him at every opportunity, but all in all, perhaps this might work out to be a blessing for everyone involved if we can somehow plug the gap with someone more effective then him (though I cannot see who that will be apart from Chuks). And if not, maybe the few games off might give him a break to come back and be more effective (though I doubt that as well).
Maybe a few weeks break will do him some good and he can come back stronger and a bit more competitive.