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Match Thread (+post match p23): Man Utd vs Charlton | Tues 10 Jan 2023 (League Cup Quarter Final)
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Got back to Hoddesdon at 2.45am this morning. What an fantastic night. Players matched the effort of the fans and lets be honest, that's all we want to see!
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watched on a stream but i so wanted us to get a goal for all who travelled. Wouldn't of minded us losing by more than 3 if we got a goal for you lot and the players to celebrate.4
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Looks like they have the classic ceiling panel dislodgement.golfaddick said:
Judging by their conscious/unconscious bias the officials probably got the luxury accommodation with a special massage before and after the game plus the kind of (taps nose) Oscar style goodie bags.2 -
It's an interesting observation. If there was any atmosphere at all in their end, it certainly didn't cut through the magnificent atmosphere in our end. To be fair to them though, I think that was very much their b-team of supporters.Redmidland said:Watched on a stream...I can't fault any player, they did us immensely proud. Our fans were amazing! Never stopped all night long - where as Man Utd fans were absolutely awful, quiet, and boring! Only made a noise when they scored..pathetic,!
Rashford was the difference in the end, but by God did we give it a go.....especially in the second half!
As we were walking to the ground last night there were several street vendors selling split Man U / Charlton scarves. One of them asked my son if he wanted one (bear in mind he's 28, not 5). To which my son replied, "I'll tell you what mate, if we win I'll come back and get one". That got me thinking who on earth would be buying all these scarves? Surely not Man Utd fans because if they bought a scarf for every match they'd have no place to put them all. Surely not Charlton fans, because other than in the event of a surprise giant killing, there surely can't be enough Addicks who are sufficiently tolerant of Man Utd to allow them half a scarf worth of space. The answer, as I found on my way out of the ground, is that it isn't the regular fans of either side who were buying this stuff, it was tourists and Man United newbies looking for a little keepsake of the day they lost their Old Trafford virginity. And as I walked to the tram stop there were hundreds of them, bedecked in their new regalia, proud to be a part of their clan. I'm sure the regular fans will be back in big numbers with their season tickets on Saturday. If you wanted to see a regular Man Utd fan last night, you had to look out for the ones in Norwich City scarves.
Many of last nights temporary support probably wouldn't know many songs and if they did they'd not be ready to join in. What they would do though is disperse themselves amongst the regulars making it more difficult to get anything going. As for the regulars, they were probably as disinterested in us as we were with Coalville when they came to The Valley. I'm not therefore going to call Man United's support pathetic. It is what it is. And what it was last night seemed to be made up of a large number of people who probably wouldn't get the chance to get a ticket for a league match. There's no shame in that. In fact, what a great thing it would be for our club if we had that many supply-fans ready to fill the gaps when the regulars fancied a night off.
Probably the bigger question though is, what can we do to repeat the magnificent atmosphere we created last night? To be so buoyant and so supportive after a three goal defeat is nothing short of brilliant. Hopefully that will build some bridges between fans and players and spur the team on for the rest of the league campaign. But that will only happen if we are consistently supportive as supporters.
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Have even lower expectations than we have already?1
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Just got back. I think we gave them a little too much respect from the kick off but grew into the half after their goal. In the second half, I thought we gave as good as we got and that is credit to the lads. We need to view that as a springboard.0
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Old Trafford is very much a tourist venue. But my son bought a moody half and half scarf. He's young (ish), he wants to have a memory of the game, and this is one of them. Happy to buy it.Stig said:
It's an interesting observation. If there was any atmosphere at all in their end, it certainly didn't cut through the magnificent atmosphere in our end. To be fair to them though, I think that was very much their b-team of supporters.Redmidland said:Watched on a stream...I can't fault any player, they did us immensely proud. Our fans were amazing! Never stopped all night long - where as Man Utd fans were absolutely awful, quiet, and boring! Only made a noise when they scored..pathetic,!
Rashford was the difference in the end, but by God did we give it a go.....especially in the second half!
As we were walking to the ground last night there were several street vendors selling split Man U / Charlton scarves. One of them asked my son if he wanted one (bear in mind he's 28, not 5). To which my son replied, "I'll tell you what mate, if we win I'll come back and get one". That got me thinking who on earth would be buying all these scarves? Surely not Man Utd fans because if they bought a scarf for every match they'd have no place to put them all. Surely not Charlton fans, because other than in the event of a surprise giant killing, there surely can't be enough Addicks who are sufficiently tolerant of Man Utd to allow them half a scarf worth of space. The answer, as I found on my way out of the ground, is that it isn't the regular fans of either side who were buying this stuff, it was tourists and Man United newbies looking for a little keepsake of the day they lost their Old Trafford virginity. And as I walked to the tram stop there were hundreds of them, bedecked in their new regalia, proud to be a part of their clan. I'm sure the regular fans will be back in big numbers with their season tickets on Saturday. If you wanted to see a regular Man Utd fan last night, you had to look out for the ones in Norwich City scarves.
Many of last nights temporary support probably wouldn't know many songs and if they did they'd not be ready to join in. What they would do though is disperse themselves amongst the regulars making it more difficult to get anything going. As for the regulars, they were probably as disinterested in us as we were with Coalville when came to The Valley. I'm not therefore going to call Man United's support pathetic. It is what it is. And what it was last night seemed to be made up of a large number of people who probably wouldn't get the chance to get a ticket for a league match. There's no shame in that. In fact, what a great thing it would be for our club if we had that many supply-fans ready to fill the gaps when the regulars fancied a night off.
Probably the bigger question though is, what can we do to repeat the magnificent atmosphere we created last night? To be so buoyant and so supportive after a three goal defeat is nothing short of brilliant. Hopefully that will build some bridges between fans and players and spur the team on for the rest of the league campaign. But that will only happen if we are consistently supportive as supporters.
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Fair enough. I didn't expect that some berk would have nicked and posted the whole thing. I don't like the Athletic's 100% paywall but I respect it, not least because they went over and above to help at the time of ESI. And of course I pay the sub. No subs, no salaries, no Athletic. Comprendo?Dazzler21 said:
FULL Archived Article as shared on the Dean Holden thread days ago: https://archive.ph/642TdPragueAddick said:I don't know where else to put this, doesn't deserve it's own thread because most people won't be able to open the article sadly.
I can't be arsed to look and see who posted the full thing, but I have a question for them if they are reading:
Did you nick your friends' homework at school? and then expect plaudits because of the clever way you nicked it?5 -
Karim_myBagheri said:a lot of Man U fans saying Garnacho was really good for them. MOM some have got him. Thought he was poor against a player whos not even a full back.
You didn't watch the first 15 minutes ?
I swear Clare will probably play 100's of games as a RB or RWB and this will still be said. Some players cover many positions.
Sessegnon and Clare both can do this.
Sean Clare is such an erratic player. He can go from looking like a League 2 player to a decent championship player from one half to the next. He scores a worldie against Plymouth and runs from his own half to hit the inside of the post recently.
Not convinced he has a great football brain but has equal moments of magic and tragic.0 -
I'm betting he's not 28SporadicAddick said:
Old Trafford is very much a tourist venue. But my son bought a moody half and half scarf. He's young (ish), he wants to have a memory of the game, and this is one of them. Happy to buy it.Stig said:
It's an interesting observation. If there was any atmosphere at all in their end, it certainly didn't cut through the magnificent atmosphere in our end. To be fair to them though, I think that was very much their b-team of supporters.Redmidland said:Watched on a stream...I can't fault any player, they did us immensely proud. Our fans were amazing! Never stopped all night long - where as Man Utd fans were absolutely awful, quiet, and boring! Only made a noise when they scored..pathetic,!
Rashford was the difference in the end, but by God did we give it a go.....especially in the second half!
As we were walking to the ground last night there were several street vendors selling split Man U / Charlton scarves. One of them asked my son if he wanted one (bear in mind he's 28, not 5). To which my son replied, "I'll tell you what mate, if we win I'll come back and get one". That got me thinking who on earth would be buying all these scarves? Surely not Man Utd fans because if they bought a scarf for every match they'd have no place to put them all. Surely not Charlton fans, because other than in the event of a surprise giant killing, there surely can't be enough Addicks who are sufficiently tolerant of Man Utd to allow them half a scarf worth of space. The answer, as I found on my way out of the ground, is that it isn't the regular fans of either side who were buying this stuff, it was tourists and Man United newbies looking for a little keepsake of the day they lost their Old Trafford virginity. And as I walked to the tram stop there were hundreds of them, bedecked in their new regalia, proud to be a part of their clan. I'm sure the regular fans will be back in big numbers with their season tickets on Saturday. If you wanted to see a regular Man Utd fan last night, you had to look out for the ones in Norwich City scarves.
Many of last nights temporary support probably wouldn't know many songs and if they did they'd not be ready to join in. What they would do though is disperse themselves amongst the regulars making it more difficult to get anything going. As for the regulars, they were probably as disinterested in us as we were with Coalville when came to The Valley. I'm not therefore going to call Man United's support pathetic. It is what it is. And what it was last night seemed to be made up of a large number of people who probably wouldn't get the chance to get a ticket for a league match. There's no shame in that. In fact, what a great thing it would be for our club if we had that many supply-fans ready to fill the gaps when the regulars fancied a night off.
Probably the bigger question though is, what can we do to repeat the magnificent atmosphere we created last night? To be so buoyant and so supportive after a three goal defeat is nothing short of brilliant. Hopefully that will build some bridges between fans and players and spur the team on for the rest of the league campaign. But that will only happen if we are consistently supportive as supporters.
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Sorry to say we saw a couple of young boys wearing the split scarves on the concourse in the away end. The lads were under 10 so maybe a bit of an excuse but no idea what their parent was thinking.Stig said:
It's an interesting observation. If there was any atmosphere at all in their end, it certainly didn't cut through the magnificent atmosphere in our end. To be fair to them though, I think that was very much their b-team of supporters.Redmidland said:Watched on a stream...I can't fault any player, they did us immensely proud. Our fans were amazing! Never stopped all night long - where as Man Utd fans were absolutely awful, quiet, and boring! Only made a noise when they scored..pathetic,!
Rashford was the difference in the end, but by God did we give it a go.....especially in the second half!
As we were walking to the ground last night there were several street vendors selling split Man U / Charlton scarves. One of them asked my son if he wanted one (bear in mind he's 28, not 5). To which my son replied, "I'll tell you what mate, if we win I'll come back and get one". That got me thinking who on earth would be buying all these scarves? Surely not Man Utd fans because if they bought a scarf for every match they'd have no place to put them all. Surely not Charlton fans, because other than in the event of a surprise giant killing, there surely can't be enough Addicks who are sufficiently tolerant of Man Utd to allow them half a scarf worth of space. The answer, as I found on my way out of the ground, is that it isn't the regular fans of either side who were buying this stuff, it was tourists and Man United newbies looking for a little keepsake of the day they lost their Old Trafford virginity. And as I walked to the tram stop there were hundreds of them, bedecked in their new regalia, proud to be a part of their clan. I'm sure the regular fans will be back in big numbers with their season tickets on Saturday. If you wanted to see a regular Man Utd fan last night, you had to look out for the ones in Norwich City scarves.
Many of last nights temporary support probably wouldn't know many songs and if they did they'd not be ready to join in. What they would do though is disperse themselves amongst the regulars making it more difficult to get anything going. As for the regulars, they were probably as disinterested in us as we were with Coalville when came to The Valley. I'm not therefore going to call Man United's support pathetic. It is what it is. And what it was last night seemed to be made up of a large number of people who probably wouldn't get the chance to get a ticket for a league match. There's no shame in that. In fact, what a great thing it would be for our club if we had that many supply-fans ready to fill the gaps when the regulars fancied a night off.
Probably the bigger question though is, what can we do to repeat the magnificent atmosphere we created last night? To be so buoyant and so supportive after a three goal defeat is nothing short of brilliant. Hopefully that will build some bridges between fans and players and spur the team on for the rest of the league campaign. But that will only happen if we are consistently supportive as supporters.0 -
Imagine there letting there kids get a memento from the game? They have the dates etc on them so it's not a bad thing to have from such an occasion at that age.golfaddick said:
Sorry to say we saw a couple of young boys wearing the split scarves on the concourse in the away end. The lads were under 10 so maybe a bit of an excuse but no idea what their parent was thinking.Stig said:
It's an interesting observation. If there was any atmosphere at all in their end, it certainly didn't cut through the magnificent atmosphere in our end. To be fair to them though, I think that was very much their b-team of supporters.Redmidland said:Watched on a stream...I can't fault any player, they did us immensely proud. Our fans were amazing! Never stopped all night long - where as Man Utd fans were absolutely awful, quiet, and boring! Only made a noise when they scored..pathetic,!
Rashford was the difference in the end, but by God did we give it a go.....especially in the second half!
As we were walking to the ground last night there were several street vendors selling split Man U / Charlton scarves. One of them asked my son if he wanted one (bear in mind he's 28, not 5). To which my son replied, "I'll tell you what mate, if we win I'll come back and get one". That got me thinking who on earth would be buying all these scarves? Surely not Man Utd fans because if they bought a scarf for every match they'd have no place to put them all. Surely not Charlton fans, because other than in the event of a surprise giant killing, there surely can't be enough Addicks who are sufficiently tolerant of Man Utd to allow them half a scarf worth of space. The answer, as I found on my way out of the ground, is that it isn't the regular fans of either side who were buying this stuff, it was tourists and Man United newbies looking for a little keepsake of the day they lost their Old Trafford virginity. And as I walked to the tram stop there were hundreds of them, bedecked in their new regalia, proud to be a part of their clan. I'm sure the regular fans will be back in big numbers with their season tickets on Saturday. If you wanted to see a regular Man Utd fan last night, you had to look out for the ones in Norwich City scarves.
Many of last nights temporary support probably wouldn't know many songs and if they did they'd not be ready to join in. What they would do though is disperse themselves amongst the regulars making it more difficult to get anything going. As for the regulars, they were probably as disinterested in us as we were with Coalville when came to The Valley. I'm not therefore going to call Man United's support pathetic. It is what it is. And what it was last night seemed to be made up of a large number of people who probably wouldn't get the chance to get a ticket for a league match. There's no shame in that. In fact, what a great thing it would be for our club if we had that many supply-fans ready to fill the gaps when the regulars fancied a night off.
Probably the bigger question though is, what can we do to repeat the magnificent atmosphere we created last night? To be so buoyant and so supportive after a three goal defeat is nothing short of brilliant. Hopefully that will build some bridges between fans and players and spur the team on for the rest of the league campaign. But that will only happen if we are consistently supportive as supporters.18 -
The link is available online. It had been archived 7 times by the time I received it on twitter. Wish I knew how to archive them. I'd guess you need access to the full article to do so.PragueAddick said:
Fair enough. I didn't expect that some berk would have nicked and posted the whole thing. I don't like the Athletic's 100% paywall but I respect it, not least because they went over and above to help at the time of ESI. And of course I pay the sub. No subs, no salaries, no Athletic. Comprendo?Dazzler21 said:
FULL Archived Article as shared on the Dean Holden thread days ago: https://archive.ph/642TdPragueAddick said:I don't know where else to put this, doesn't deserve it's own thread because most people won't be able to open the article sadly.
I can't be arsed to look and see who posted the full thing, but I have a question for them if they are reading:
Did you nick your friends' homework at school? and then expect plaudits because of the clever way you nicked it?
So it's a case of someone paying for the homework answers then photocopying it and sharing it for free...
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Awesome NightCheshireAddick said:What a fantastic night. Proud of the players and the support COYs
Born in Greenwich but now live in Cheshire
Go to most home and away games and what a fantastic night at Old Trafford. We played very well and should have got at Least one goal and one penalty. Very proud of our fans and the awesome atmosphere they created was brilliant.
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‘Nicked it’ 🤣🤣🤣PragueAddick said:
Fair enough. I didn't expect that some berk would have nicked and posted the whole thing. I don't like the Athletic's 100% paywall but I respect it, not least because they went over and above to help at the time of ESI. And of course I pay the sub. No subs, no salaries, no Athletic. Comprendo?Dazzler21 said:
FULL Archived Article as shared on the Dean Holden thread days ago: https://archive.ph/642TdPragueAddick said:I don't know where else to put this, doesn't deserve it's own thread because most people won't be able to open the article sadly.
I can't be arsed to look and see who posted the full thing, but I have a question for them if they are reading:
Did you nick your friends' homework at school? and then expect plaudits because of the clever way you nicked it?1 -
It did not hit the woodwork but was only a foot or so wideO-Randy-Hunt said:Surprised to hear Albies free kick in the first half hit the woodwork. From where I was up in the gods it looked like it went well wide 🤣0 -
They sing everything too fast. It's the result of being jacked up on bottles of primeThe Red Robin said:Minor gripe - younger fans need to learn how to slow down their Leaburn chant. 2 -
just reminded me i need to cancel my free trial amazon prime subscription. cheers.tangoflash said:
They sing everything too fast. It's the result of being jacked up on bottles of primeThe Red Robin said:Minor gripe - younger fans need to learn how to slow down their Leaburn chant.4 -
They were, but as they were on the coach, the comms team said they wanted a video of the post match talk, so they had to make a stop at Salford swimming baths to re-create it.SoundAsa£ said:Further to the dressing room we were given, does anyone have an explication as to why we weren’t given the new £20,000,000 away team one?
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Bit OTT Prague. I tried The Athletic for a few months and really didn't think it was worth it but that's personal preference because the journalism is obviously good.PragueAddick said:
Fair enough. I didn't expect that some berk would have nicked and posted the whole thing. I don't like the Athletic's 100% paywall but I respect it, not least because they went over and above to help at the time of ESI. And of course I pay the sub. No subs, no salaries, no Athletic. Comprendo?Dazzler21 said:
FULL Archived Article as shared on the Dean Holden thread days ago: https://archive.ph/642TdPragueAddick said:I don't know where else to put this, doesn't deserve it's own thread because most people won't be able to open the article sadly.
I can't be arsed to look and see who posted the full thing, but I have a question for them if they are reading:
Did you nick your friends' homework at school? and then expect plaudits because of the clever way you nicked it?
They've produced one article that I want to read in a year and don't offer a simple model (or method) for me to pay for that single article other than to sign up for another month.
It's the internet, and as we saw with piracy, if you don't offer the models people want, they'll find a way to make them themselves.
But you know, on the upside for The Athletic, sharing that article (which was of excellent quality) might have convinced a few others to give them a try. So it's not exactly the end of the world.1 - Sponsored links:
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Haha no way it hit the woodwork. It was well wide, your eyes didn't deceive you.O-Randy-Hunt said:Surprised to hear Albies free kick in the first half hit the woodwork. From where I was up in the gods it looked like it went well wide 🤣0 -
Well wide is an exaggeration, it curved towards then away from goal, never on target. Was about 30-60cm away depending on when it crossed the touch line.Callumcafc said:
Haha no way it hit the woodwork. It was well wide, your eyes didn't deceive you.O-Randy-Hunt said:Surprised to hear Albies free kick in the first half hit the woodwork. From where I was up in the gods it looked like it went well wide0 -
Back from Madchester, very delayed train back to Euston at least it won't cost anything as it was over 1hr+ late, so will get full compensation.
Always enjoy Manc, although no fan of OT, my 2nd time with Addicks, agree support was awesome but being up in the gods in the away end, it was like watching FIFA 2023 computer game. I couldn't hear the drummer(s) thought they were coming? but didn't matter as the Addicks were superb singing throughout & good to hear "Goodbye Horse"
Onwards and Upwards now for Barnsley, lets hope players and supporters are all up for this match looking forward to it and next away game at Forest Green, really excited about Valentines Visit0 -
Have seen a video now and agree. It doesn't hit the woodwork although many still believe it did.Callumcafc said:
Haha no way it hit the woodwork. It was well wide, your eyes didn't deceive you.O-Randy-Hunt said:Surprised to hear Albies free kick in the first half hit the woodwork. From where I was up in the gods it looked like it went well wide 🤣
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Can we have another cup next season please? What a night.6
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He's a bit greedy but not sure how you can say he was poor. He ripped Clare apart early on, beat him at least 3 times in the first 10 minutes.Karim_myBagheri said:a lot of Man U fans saying Garnacho was really good for them. MOM some have got him. Thought he was poor against a player whos not even a full back.4 -
He did get the better of Clare but then ballsed it up. Poor shooting and crossing. I didn't keep a close eye on him but was surprised that so many Man U fans rated his performance.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
He's a bit greedy but not sure how you can say he was poor. He ripped Clare apart early on, beat him at least 3 times in the first 10 minutes.Karim_myBagheri said:a lot of Man U fans saying Garnacho was really good for them. MOM some have got him. Thought he was poor against a player whos not even a full back.0 -
Can’t you be more specific? From where I was it was well wide but it was Albie so maybe I’m biased, as are you.Dazzler21 said:
Well wide is an exaggeration, it curved towards then away from goal, never on target. Was about 30-60cm away depending on when it crossed the touch line.Callumcafc said:
Haha no way it hit the woodwork. It was well wide, your eyes didn't deceive you.O-Randy-Hunt said:Surprised to hear Albies free kick in the first half hit the woodwork. From where I was up in the gods it looked like it went well wide0 -
Loved this post! Balanced, 'well researched' and with a good conclusion.Stig said:
It's an interesting observation. If there was any atmosphere at all in their end, it certainly didn't cut through the magnificent atmosphere in our end. To be fair to them though, I think that was very much their b-team of supporters.Redmidland said:Watched on a stream...I can't fault any player, they did us immensely proud. Our fans were amazing! Never stopped all night long - where as Man Utd fans were absolutely awful, quiet, and boring! Only made a noise when they scored..pathetic,!
Rashford was the difference in the end, but by God did we give it a go.....especially in the second half!
As we were walking to the ground last night there were several street vendors selling split Man U / Charlton scarves. One of them asked my son if he wanted one (bear in mind he's 28, not 5). To which my son replied, "I'll tell you what mate, if we win I'll come back and get one". That got me thinking who on earth would be buying all these scarves? Surely not Man Utd fans because if they bought a scarf for every match they'd have no place to put them all. Surely not Charlton fans, because other than in the event of a surprise giant killing, there surely can't be enough Addicks who are sufficiently tolerant of Man Utd to allow them half a scarf worth of space. The answer, as I found on my way out of the ground, is that it isn't the regular fans of either side who were buying this stuff, it was tourists and Man United newbies looking for a little keepsake of the day they lost their Old Trafford virginity. And as I walked to the tram stop there were hundreds of them, bedecked in their new regalia, proud to be a part of their clan. I'm sure the regular fans will be back in big numbers with their season tickets on Saturday. If you wanted to see a regular Man Utd fan last night, you had to look out for the ones in Norwich City scarves.
Many of last nights temporary support probably wouldn't know many songs and if they did they'd not be ready to join in. What they would do though is disperse themselves amongst the regulars making it more difficult to get anything going. As for the regulars, they were probably as disinterested in us as we were with Coalville when they came to The Valley. I'm not therefore going to call Man United's support pathetic. It is what it is. And what it was last night seemed to be made up of a large number of people who probably wouldn't get the chance to get a ticket for a league match. There's no shame in that. In fact, what a great thing it would be for our club if we had that many supply-fans ready to fill the gaps when the regulars fancied a night off.
Probably the bigger question though is, what can we do to repeat the magnificent atmosphere we created last night? To be so buoyant and so supportive after a three goal defeat is nothing short of brilliant. Hopefully that will build some bridges between fans and players and spur the team on for the rest of the league campaign. But that will only happen if we are consistently supportive as supporters.2
