Surprised to hear Albies free kick in the first half hit the woodwork. From where I was up in the gods it looked like it went well wide
Haha no way it hit the woodwork. It was well wide, your eyes didn't deceive you.
Well wide is an exaggeration, it curved towards then away from goal, never on target. Was about 30-60cm away depending on when it crossed the touch line.
Ermmm Dazzler…..I was sitting right behind the free kick…..I can assure you it ended up a good three or four feet wide of the post…..if not more!
Surprised to hear Albies free kick in the first half hit the woodwork. From where I was up in the gods it looked like it went well wide
Haha no way it hit the woodwork. It was well wide, your eyes didn't deceive you.
Well wide is an exaggeration, it curved towards then away from goal, never on target. Was about 30-60cm away depending on when it crossed the touch line.
Ermmm Dazzler…..I was sitting right behind the free kick…..I can assure you it ended up a good three or four feet wide of the post…..if not more!
Not like a bloke to over exaggerate a length now is it?
As a big game for a kid to attend, the half and half scarves are a nice momento IMO. Also it makes sense for those United fans who don't/can't go often as a momento of a game they did attend. Not sure what there is to be bothered about. My brother joked before the game that we should get one, and I said if we won, I might get one after the game but I don't want a reminder of a 7-0 thrashing!
Bit late to the 'party' but what a fantastic night.
I took my 16 year old cousin who I converted from a ManU fan around 3 years ago. From the odd ManU cup game to a season ticket holder who attends all possible away games with me, so it was quite the night for me and him. Quite proud that he said regardless of the result it was nice to travel there and feel a real connection with a club rather than going just because it's a team that are good and all his mates liked.
Onto the travelling side of things, Jesus wept, might be my worst away drive home? Getting out of there was (as expected) a massive ball ache and all those lane closures on the way back were making me want to put my head through the wheel. Was quite amusing to see a shed load of Charlton fans looking a bit worse for wear in a service station maccies at about 1-2am.
as for hotels, did anyone else stay at hotel football by any chance? I was completely unaware they had a football pitch at the top of the place so it's gonna be quite a memory for me now playing footie with the cousin until the early hours of the morning. Nice people the Mancs, very blunt but chatty and prideful footie fans.
Post match analysis;
We all saw what happened and I don't think I need to add too much, it's rather telling they had double our fouls, the only side to receive bookings and had to bring on 3 of their best players to see us off. We edged that second half, no doubt in my mind. Decision making and poor refereeing decisions let us down. Can't fault the lads efforts though, to a man they left everything and that's all we can ask for when the gulf in quality (Just wages in some cases) is present like that.
first half for the first 20 minutes or so was very cagey, we couldn't cope with their pace of the turn of the ball and wingers, in particular Garnacho who was eating Sean Clare alive. Fair play to Clare though, he grew into the game and imo, alongside Sess and Jes were our stand out performers. Antonys goal, no saving that, it's frustrating that he wasn't closed down but in our players defence, they aren't accustomed to a player being able to place it top bins like that. After that goal we were very sound defensively I thought. Our downfall was when we tried to get back into the game and got sloppy allowing Rashford two very easy scoring opportunities which a world class forward will obviously finish. In the end the scoreline flattered them. You'd have to be delusional to be a United fan and not question that performance, I was honestly surprised in the lack of quality on display from such a huge side. Suppose you can just put it down to the desire of the players.
Obviously Casemiro & Rashford looked a level above but I have to mention Fred, I thought he was superb and him coming off made them lose their hold of the game a bit I thought, he looked really up for it and looked levels above. McTominay and Maguire wouldn't look out of place in a league 1 side however, I think he's superb for England but for ManU Maguire is shocking, bloke was getting ragdolled at times by Leaburn and nutmegged twice..
On a final note as much as our turnout was fantastic and we were in fine voice, I wish we would slow down just a tad. This was ManU away in a league cup quarter final. We still have poor turnouts in general and should be bringing more numbers away, until we do that I don't think we can be poking jabs too much at other clubs attendance figures..
People get het up about the strangest things. If someone wants to buy a scarf, even a half and half one, for their kid or themselves, be they 4 or 44, as a souvenir of attending a football match, what on earth is the harm?
With the scarf thing my experience was the coaches parked up and the mindset was relief the journey was over, we’d got there in time, it was darkish and the next task was to stretch the legs and suss the suss. As we were getting off the coach we were instantly hassled by the scarf sellers in the gloom, it was between the vehicles and they were properly pushy, not really able to inspect the product and no idea of the price. They we’re pushing for an instant or reflex decision. Wouldn’t work with an old git like me still wearing my Woolwich shirt, and have seen us at Manchester United before, but for those new to the place I can easily see some being ready for an impulse buy. If anybody bought one, well it’s their dosh and their decision, and not something to fret about.
Can we have another cup next season please? What a night.
Been saying this for years. Take the cups seriously. It's our only chance of glory atm
Totally agree. If we’re in a promotion battle then you might want to rest a couple, but don’t put out a team you know will get battered. Bad for morale, for one thing.
Cups provide great days out, and look, had we squeaked through v. Utd suddenly you’re looking potential major silverware, with City knocked out. That’d put blue water between ourselves and our south London rivals who have never won anything.
Can we have another cup next season please? What a night.
Been saying this for years. Take the cups seriously. It's our only chance of glory atm
Totally agree. If we’re in a promotion battle then you might want to rest a couple, but don’t put out a team you know will get battered. Bad for morale, for one thing.
Cups provide great days out, and look, had we squeaked through v. Utd suddenly you’re looking potential major silverware, with City knocked out. That’d put blue water between ourselves and our south London rivals who have never won anything.
100% agreed - we should go full strength in the fa and league cup at all times - put the womens team out for the pizza and any other nonsense cup
That comment has finally unlocked the the floodgate I've been managing to keep secure since returning to our hotel after the match.
Def not looking for any sympathy but wasn't sure I'd make it to OT until the anti b's started to kick in 2 nights earlier & the journey was started with a degree or two of trepidation. Benylin, ibuprofen & Fisherman's Friends are a lifesaver....
Of course, I loved every minute of the match & cheered/sang my heart out, albeit with more enthusiasm than volume. But, looking back, it was a struggle at times and intermittent coughing spasms meant tightly crossed legs & muttering thanks to Lady Tena. Sorry, but you know by now that I tell it like it is.
An awe inspiring performance from our lads & the company of almost 9,000 like minded, passionate Addicks is something I won't forget, alongside our triumphs at Wembley in recent years. Eat your hearts out Millwall, Palace et al !
Something was lacking though, as I realised on the trek south the following morning but it wasn't until I read those seven words from another Charlton "hero" that those floodgates were breached & the tears fell unabated.
The reaction was a delayed one but nevertheless, from the heart, with the realisation of just how much being part of that unbelievable support meant to me. Humbling indeed but proud.
Thank you to all who made that evening so special & to those who were supporting from their sofas. I swear their cheering added to the tremendous noise emanating from the away end.
We can but hope that the passion shown on Tuesday night both on & off the pitch will encourage the attention of buyers who realise the potential of our famous football club & want to play a big part in its future.
Surely we can't let the impetus generated on Tuesday evening go to waste ?
As others have said, United gave us a bit of a chasing in the first half but we had a real go in the second, without seriously threatening their goal, save for the shot that Fraser blasted over. The two late goals most certainly distorted the scoreline and flattered United. Our players - and supporters - could not have done more to try and get a result, so hats off to all.
We enjoyed some pre-match beers at the diminutive Grey Horse Inn (10% off for anyone with a match ticket), the Peveril of the Peak, another pub whose name I can't recall where we got some food and The Britons Protection. Well impressed with the tram system and the general organisation at Old Trafford was good as well (as was £3 per tinny). We were hungry after the game and managed to find a decent restaurant around the corner from the Ibis in Chinatown, the Aplus Oriental - a good name, rather like 'The Ladies' No.1 Detective Agency'. They close early on Mondays and Tuesdays, but fortunately their idea of early is 2am (it's 3am the rest of the week). It was intriguing to see a table of Chinese people on another table, some of whom were clearly Charlton supporters - I'm guessing the legacy of Zheng Zhi.
After a decent night's kip, we rounded things off with visits to the Manchester Art Gallery (quiet and really well curated), Mulligans, El Gato Negro Tapas and The Tap by the station, before hopping on the 15:35 train. A leisurely and relaxing way to round off an excellent trip.
Let's hope the players can show a similar level of intensity at The Valley on Saturday. As Curbs remarked a little while ago on Charlton TV, it's good that the United game was on Tuesday rather than Wednesday, so they have an extra day's recovery and can get a bit of proper training and preparation in at the end of the week.
That comment has finally unlocked the the floodgate I've been managing to keep secure since returning to our hotel after the match.
Def not looking for any sympathy but wasn't sure I'd make it to OT until the anti b's started to kick in 2 nights earlier & the journey was started with a degree or two of trepidation. Benylin, ibuprofen & Fisherman's Friends are a lifesaver....
Of course, I loved every minute of the match & cheered/sang my heart out, albeit with more enthusiasm than volume. But, looking back, it was a struggle at times and intermittent coughing spasms meant tightly crossed legs & muttering thanks to Lady Tena. Sorry, but you know by now that I tell it like it is.
An awe inspiring performance from our lads & the company of almost 9,000 like minded, passionate Addicks is something I won't forget, alongside our triumphs at Wembley in recent years. Eat your hearts out Millwall, Palace et al !
Something was lacking though, as I realised on the trek south the following morning but it wasn't until I read those seven words from another Charlton "hero" that those floodgates were breached & the tears fell unabated.
The reaction was a delayed one but nevertheless, from the heart, with the realisation of just how much being part of that unbelievable support meant to me. Humbling indeed but proud.
Thank you to all who made that evening so special & to those who were supporting from their sofas. I swear their cheering added to the tremendous noise emanating from the away end.
We can but hope that the passion shown on Tuesday night both on & off the pitch will encourage the attention of buyers who realise the potential of our famous football club & want to play a big part in its future.
Surely we can't let the impetus generated on Tuesday evening go to waste ?
Onwards & upwards !
Oh Fanny, I do hope you are feeling much better 🙏🏻
I’m sat on my sofa absolutely shattered but I wouldn’t have changed it for the world.
I haven't made much secret of my feelings for the club at the moment. I will always support us but I am fed up of all the chancers and crapness. I am not going to be a happy clapper for nothing. I decided to go because the lads earned my support in the Brighton game and I felt something at the end of the game that I have not for a long while, apart from Brighton, and that was a pride in the performance of the lads, all of them. I think the second half performance was terrific and will live long in my memory.
We needed a bit of luck, but that was all we needed. You could tell they were worried in the second half, very worried. We were also unlucky the ref was good, very good IMO. If we were playing a non league side we would get a crap one who would have give them decisions the ref didn't give us, but I think he was right with most of his calls. We earned two free kicks in decent positions and sadly we didn't take them. Those are the margins and that chance Fraser put over was a fantastic one but rather than criticise Fraser, I would say on another day we get something from one of them.
My son met Rak-Sakyi this morning at a petrol station in Lee. Said he was very friendly and chatted about the game on Tues. Asked if he went, my son said I’ve been waiting all my 17 years for us to play somewhere like that.
My son said he seemed a bit shocked someone recognised him.
Drove up solo, and met up with my son and his pals. I was going to drive back after the game, but got talked into staying overnight and having a beer. Started off at’spoons Oxford St and then onto OT, some more beers. And then the game, ALL I want from the lads is to give it a go, and they gave it a “go “. To lose to to United with all their resources and money world class players is no disgrace. Our support was off the scale and equal to the play offs we have played in.
While the connection between myself and this club is deep it is not unquestioning. But as much as I am cynic I recognised something special happened Tuesday. It was similar to the play off wins , that moment when you realise you are part of a “family “
At the end of the game my son and I hugged not something we that often as we are a bit old school, but that is the power of Charlton Athletic, and football. The result is not important, the real winner was me, I fell back in love with Charlton Athletic.
There is also a bit of a secret that only us and a few United fans will know. Most will see 3-0 and see a straightforward win but we and they know better. Due to the significance of an equaliser potentially taking the game to pens, they were very worried and it was a performance from us we all have to be proud of.
People get het up about the strangest things. If someone wants to buy a scarf, even a half and half one, for their kid or themselves, be they 4 or 44, as a souvenir of attending a football match, what on earth is the harm?
Cos it's fucking weird
It’s only acceptable if you’re a supporter of neither team and, preferably, a foreign tourist. Otherwise, yes, it is fucking weird.
Watched on a stream...I can't fault any player, they did us immensely proud. Our fans were amazing! Never stopped all night long - where as Man Utd fans were absolutely awful, quiet, and boring! Only made a noise when they scored..pathetic,! Rashford was the difference in the end, but by God did we give it a go.....especially in the second half!
It's an interesting observation. If there was any atmosphere at all in their end, it certainly didn't cut through the magnificent atmosphere in our end. To be fair to them though, I think that was very much their b-team of supporters.
As we were walking to the ground last night there were several street vendors selling split Man U / Charlton scarves. One of them asked my son if he wanted one (bear in mind he's 28, not 5). To which my son replied, "I'll tell you what mate, if we win I'll come back and get one". That got me thinking who on earth would be buying all these scarves? Surely not Man Utd fans because if they bought a scarf for every match they'd have no place to put them all. Surely not Charlton fans, because other than in the event of a surprise giant killing, there surely can't be enough Addicks who are sufficiently tolerant of Man Utd to allow them half a scarf worth of space. The answer, as I found on my way out of the ground, is that it isn't the regular fans of either side who were buying this stuff, it was tourists and Man United newbies looking for a little keepsake of the day they lost their Old Trafford virginity. And as I walked to the tram stop there were hundreds of them, bedecked in their new regalia, proud to be a part of their clan. I'm sure the regular fans will be back in big numbers with their season tickets on Saturday. If you wanted to see a regular Man Utd fan last night, you had to look out for the ones in Norwich City scarves.
Many of last nights temporary support probably wouldn't know many songs and if they did they'd not be ready to join in. What they would do though is disperse themselves amongst the regulars making it more difficult to get anything going. As for the regulars, they were probably as disinterested in us as we were with Coalville when they came to The Valley. I'm not therefore going to call Man United's support pathetic. It is what it is. And what it was last night seemed to be made up of a large number of people who probably wouldn't get the chance to get a ticket for a league match. There's no shame in that. In fact, what a great thing it would be for our club if we had that many supply-fans ready to fill the gaps when the regulars fancied a night off.
Probably the bigger question though is, what can we do to repeat the magnificent atmosphere we created last night? To be so buoyant and so supportive after a three goal defeat is nothing short of brilliant. Hopefully that will build some bridges between fans and players and spur the team on for the rest of the league campaign. But that will only happen if we are consistently supportive as supporters.
Imagine how awful it would have been to play last night in a half empty stadium
Decent little boost to the Manchester economy. Not sure what percentage of Addicks stayed in hotels, but it was a fair few out of the 9,000. Then there’s beers and food and Ubers etc, plus a few half and half scarves apparently. And @LouisMend would be after a mug for the collection.
And then there’s god knows how many United fans coming from all over the place, some of whom will stop over etc.
Fraser is left footed, so wrong side. Mind you he would have still got closer than Albie.
Depends how much bend Fraser could get with his left foot as the ball would be coming back in and if Scott had beaten the wall then closer than Albie's effort that was always going away from goal.
Fraser is left footed, so wrong side. Mind you he would have still got closer than Albie.
Depends how much bend Fraser could get with his left foot as the ball would be coming back in and if Scott had beaten the wall then closer than Albie's effort that was always going away from goal.
But you're generally more likely to score if the ball is bending away from the goalkeeper rather than towards him.
''Of course, I loved every minute of the match & cheered/sang my heart out, albeit with more enthusiasm than volume. But, looking back, it was a struggle at times and intermittent coughing spasms meant tightly crossed legs & muttering thanks to Lady Tena. Sorry, but you know by now that I tell it like it is.''
As always a superb assessment of the game, you are one of the most genuine of CAFC supporters, but perhaps just a tad too much infor (only joking). Keep the great work up!
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I took my 16 year old cousin who I converted from a ManU fan around 3 years ago. From the odd ManU cup game to a season ticket holder who attends all possible away games with me, so it was quite the night for me and him. Quite proud that he said regardless of the result it was nice to travel there and feel a real connection with a club rather than going just because it's a team that are good and all his mates liked.
Onto the travelling side of things, Jesus wept, might be my worst away drive home? Getting out of there was (as expected) a massive ball ache and all those lane closures on the way back were making me want to put my head through the wheel. Was quite amusing to see a shed load of Charlton fans looking a bit worse for wear in a service station maccies at about 1-2am.
as for hotels, did anyone else stay at hotel football by any chance? I was completely unaware they had a football pitch at the top of the place so it's gonna be quite a memory for me now playing footie with the cousin until the early hours of the morning. Nice people the Mancs, very blunt but chatty and prideful footie fans.
Post match analysis;
We all saw what happened and I don't think I need to add too much, it's rather telling they had double our fouls, the only side to receive bookings and had to bring on 3 of their best players to see us off. We edged that second half, no doubt in my mind. Decision making and poor refereeing decisions let us down. Can't fault the lads efforts though, to a man they left everything and that's all we can ask for when the gulf in quality (Just wages in some cases) is present like that.
first half for the first 20 minutes or so was very cagey, we couldn't cope with their pace of the turn of the ball and wingers, in particular Garnacho who was eating Sean Clare alive. Fair play to Clare though, he grew into the game and imo, alongside Sess and Jes were our stand out performers. Antonys goal, no saving that, it's frustrating that he wasn't closed down but in our players defence, they aren't accustomed to a player being able to place it top bins like that. After that goal we were very sound defensively I thought. Our downfall was when we tried to get back into the game and got sloppy allowing Rashford two very easy scoring opportunities which a world class forward will obviously finish. In the end the scoreline flattered them. You'd have to be delusional to be a United fan and not question that performance, I was honestly surprised in the lack of quality on display from such a huge side. Suppose you can just put it down to the desire of the players.
Obviously Casemiro & Rashford looked a level above but I have to mention Fred, I thought he was superb and him coming off made them lose their hold of the game a bit I thought, he looked really up for it and looked levels above. McTominay and Maguire wouldn't look out of place in a league 1 side however, I think he's superb for England but for ManU Maguire is shocking, bloke was getting ragdolled at times by Leaburn and nutmegged twice..
On a final note as much as our turnout was fantastic and we were in fine voice, I wish we would slow down just a tad. This was ManU away in a league cup quarter final. We still have poor turnouts in general and should be bringing more numbers away, until we do that I don't think we can be poking jabs too much at other clubs attendance figures..
roll on Barnsley
As we were getting off the coach we were instantly hassled by the scarf sellers in the gloom, it was between the vehicles and they were properly pushy, not really able to inspect the product and no idea of the price.
They we’re pushing for an instant or reflex decision.
Wouldn’t work with an old git like me still wearing my Woolwich shirt, and have seen us at Manchester United before, but for those new to the place I can easily see some being ready for an impulse buy.
If anybody bought one, well it’s their dosh and their decision, and not something to fret about.
Why didn't Fraser take that free kick ?
Def not looking for any sympathy but wasn't sure I'd make it to OT until the anti b's started to kick in 2 nights earlier & the journey was started with a degree or two of trepidation. Benylin, ibuprofen & Fisherman's Friends are a lifesaver....
Of course, I loved every minute of the match & cheered/sang my heart out, albeit with more enthusiasm than volume. But, looking back, it was a struggle at times and intermittent coughing spasms meant tightly crossed legs & muttering thanks to Lady Tena. Sorry, but you know by now that I tell it like it is.
An awe inspiring performance from our lads & the company of almost 9,000 like minded, passionate Addicks is something I won't forget, alongside our triumphs at Wembley in recent years. Eat your hearts out Millwall, Palace et al !
Something was lacking though, as I realised on the trek south the following morning but it wasn't until I read those seven words from another Charlton "hero" that those floodgates were breached & the tears fell unabated.
The reaction was a delayed one but nevertheless, from the heart, with the realisation of just how much being part of that unbelievable support meant to me. Humbling indeed but proud.
Thank you to all who made that evening so special & to those who were supporting from their sofas. I swear their cheering added to the tremendous noise emanating from the away end.
We can but hope that the passion shown on Tuesday night both on & off the pitch will encourage the attention of buyers who realise the potential of our famous football club & want to play a big part in its future.
Surely we can't let the impetus generated on Tuesday evening go to waste ?
Onwards & upwards !
We enjoyed some pre-match beers at the diminutive Grey Horse Inn (10% off for anyone with a match ticket), the Peveril of the Peak, another pub whose name I can't recall where we got some food and The Britons Protection. Well impressed with the tram system and the general organisation at Old Trafford was good as well (as was £3 per tinny). We were hungry after the game and managed to find a decent restaurant around the corner from the Ibis in Chinatown, the Aplus Oriental - a good name, rather like 'The Ladies' No.1 Detective Agency'. They close early on Mondays and Tuesdays, but fortunately their idea of early is 2am (it's 3am the rest of the week). It was intriguing to see a table of Chinese people on another table, some of whom were clearly Charlton supporters - I'm guessing the legacy of Zheng Zhi.
After a decent night's kip, we rounded things off with visits to the Manchester Art Gallery (quiet and really well curated), Mulligans, El Gato Negro Tapas and The Tap by the station, before hopping on the 15:35 train. A leisurely and relaxing way to round off an excellent trip.
Let's hope the players can show a similar level of intensity at The Valley on Saturday. As Curbs remarked a little while ago on Charlton TV, it's good that the United game was on Tuesday rather than Wednesday, so they have an extra day's recovery and can get a bit of proper training and preparation in at the end of the week.
I’m sat on my sofa absolutely shattered but I wouldn’t have changed it for the world.
Charlton til I die ♥️
We needed a bit of luck, but that was all we needed. You could tell they were worried in the second half, very worried. We were also unlucky the ref was good, very good IMO. If we were playing a non league side we would get a crap one who would have give them decisions the ref didn't give us, but I think he was right with most of his calls. We earned two free kicks in decent positions and sadly we didn't take them. Those are the margins and that chance Fraser put over was a fantastic one but rather than criticise Fraser, I would say on another day we get something from one of them.
And then the game, ALL I want from the lads is to give it a go, and they gave it a “go “.
To lose to to United with all their resources and money world class players is no disgrace.
Our support was off the scale and equal to the play offs we have played in.
While the connection between myself and this club is deep it is not unquestioning.
But as much as I am cynic I recognised something special happened Tuesday.
It was similar to the play off wins , that moment when you realise you are part of a “family “
At the end of the game my son and I hugged not something we that often as we are a bit old school, but that is the power of Charlton Athletic, and football.
The result is not important, the real winner was me, I fell back in love with Charlton Athletic.
Mind you he would have still got closer than Albie.
Depends how much bend Fraser could get with his left foot as the ball would be coming back in and if Scott had beaten the wall then closer than Albie's effort that was always going away from goal.
''Of course, I loved every minute of the match & cheered/sang my heart out, albeit with more enthusiasm than volume. But, looking back, it was a struggle at times and intermittent coughing spasms meant tightly crossed legs & muttering thanks to Lady Tena. Sorry, but you know by now that I tell it like it is.''
As always a superb assessment of the game, you are one of the most genuine of CAFC supporters, but perhaps just a tad too much infor (only joking). Keep the great work up!