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Match Thread (+post match p23): Man Utd vs Charlton | Tues 10 Jan 2023 (League Cup Quarter Final)
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Excellent videoseth plum said:0 -
Tell that to Roberto Carlos.Chunes said:
But you're generally more likely to score if the ball is bending away from the goalkeeper rather than towards him.soapboxsam said:Covered End said:
Fraser is left footed, so wrong side.soapboxsam said:O-Randy-Hunt said:Woodwork is still shaking
Why didn't Fraser take that free kick ?
Mind you he would have still got closer than Albie.
Depends how much bend Fraser could get with his left foot as the ball would be coming back in and if Scott had beaten the wall then closer than Albie's effort that was always going away from goal.2 -
Great video, wonderful sound, and we really showed those plastic Manure lot how to support your team, they may as well have stayed at home, what a total mob of muppets they are...Callumcafc said:
Excellent videoseth plum said:1 -
Two years ago today1
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How correct you were over the SMT.Valley11 said:This BBC article neatly sums up the overall feeling about the game and the future:This performance was a reminder of what Charlton could be
The 9,000 travelling fans provided plenty of backing for Holden's men and they were still in the game as the clock ticked toward injury time.
Alongside owner Thomas Sandgaard among the Charlton delegation in the directors box at Old Trafford were former Sunderland executive Charlie Methven and Simon Lenagan, son of Wigan Warriors owner Ian.
Both were listed as 'club guest' and both have been to recent Charlton matches, fuelling suggestions they are part of the secretive group that has apparently been granted a period of exclusivity around the ownership, even though Dane Sandgaard says he is going nowhere.
It is the kind of situation Charlton fans thought they had seen the back of when they fought off one potential owner they did not want in 2020, and why they feel an Independent Regulator for the game as a whole is needed as a matter of urgency.
Not that they were thinking too much about that in the opening minute of the second-half when Corey Blackett-Taylor lined up Charlton's best opportunity to equalise, only to fire over from the edge of the area.
Fraser had their only other chance and despite the late setbacks, there was passion and admiration in the ovation the supporters offered Holden and his players at the end.
Now they return to more mundane fare, wanting to know who is running their club.
Pity you can’t go back up North Charlie and take your mates with you.2 -
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How correct you were over the SMT.Valley11 said:This BBC article neatly sums up the overall feeling about the game and the future:This performance was a reminder of what Charlton could be
The 9,000 travelling fans provided plenty of backing for Holden's men and they were still in the game as the clock ticked toward injury time.
Alongside owner Thomas Sandgaard among the Charlton delegation in the directors box at Old Trafford were former Sunderland executive Charlie Methven and Simon Lenagan, son of Wigan Warriors owner Ian.
Both were listed as 'club guest' and both have been to recent Charlton matches, fuelling suggestions they are part of the secretive group that has apparently been granted a period of exclusivity around the ownership, even though Dane Sandgaard says he is going nowhere.
It is the kind of situation Charlton fans thought they had seen the back of when they fought off one potential owner they did not want in 2020, and why they feel an Independent Regulator for the game as a whole is needed as a matter of urgency.
Not that they were thinking too much about that in the opening minute of the second-half when Corey Blackett-Taylor lined up Charlton's best opportunity to equalise, only to fire over from the edge of the area.
Fraser had their only other chance and despite the late setbacks, there was passion and admiration in the ovation the supporters offered Holden and his players at the end.
Now they return to more mundane fare, wanting to know who is running their club.
Pity you can’t go back up North Charlie and take your mates with you.
Charlie was in the box at Portsmouth, this mob were involved with the January recruitment whatever people might say.
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Just a shame that VFR has gradually since its inception become incomprehensible.Callumcafc said:
Excellent videoseth plum said:
I suggest singing along to the original to realise. It’s like listening to at 78rpm.4 -
I agree it is too quick, but the flipside is that we hear the orchestrated slow durges that I've heard at Nottingham Forest, Southampton and Arsenal to name a few, where the song has been taken over by the club and its a forced rendition at the start of the game.jimmymelrose said:
Just a shame that VFR has gradually since its inception become incomprehensible.Callumcafc said:
Excellent videoseth plum said:
I suggest singing along to the original to realise. It’s like listening to at 78rpm.0 -
From someone who wasn't there, what always surprises me about this video is it appears the fans in the front tier are doing their best at vocally supporting the team while those in the upper tier appear to be statues. Maybe it's just me ?0
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The very slow version of City Ground Forest sing before kick off is awful.SporadicAddick said:
I agree it is too quick, but the flipside is that we hear the orchestrated slow durges that I've heard at Nottingham Forest, Southampton and Arsenal to name a few, where the song has been taken over by the club and its a forced rendition at the start of the game.jimmymelrose said:
Just a shame that VFR has gradually since its inception become incomprehensible.Callumcafc said:
Excellent videoseth plum said:
I suggest singing along to the original to realise. It’s like listening to at 78rpm.This United match to me feels a lot longer ago than two years.3 -
Spurs fans sing ’oh, when the Spurs’ slowly on their own initiative. It can be done.se9addick said:
The very slow version of City Ground Forest sing before kick off is awful.SporadicAddick said:
I agree it is too quick, but the flipside is that we hear the orchestrated slow durges that I've heard at Nottingham Forest, Southampton and Arsenal to name a few, where the song has been taken over by the club and its a forced rendition at the start of the game.jimmymelrose said:
Just a shame that VFR has gradually since its inception become incomprehensible.Callumcafc said:
Excellent videoseth plum said:
I suggest singing along to the original to realise. It’s like listening to at 78rpm.This United match to me feels a lot longer ago than two years.0 -
We all sang.charltonbob said:From someone who wasn't there, what always surprises me about this video is it appears the fans in the front tier are doing their best at vocally supporting the team while those in the upper tier appear to be statues. Maybe it's just me ?0 -
Probably cause not all in attendance were Charlton fans.charltonbob said:From someone who wasn't there, what always surprises me about this video is it appears the fans in the front tier are doing their best at vocally supporting the team while those in the upper tier appear to be statues. Maybe it's just me ?
Imagine there was a lot of friends and family brought along. You're never going to see 9000/9000 singing away, we simply just don't have that kind of support.0 -
I was in the upper and it was bouncingcharltonbob said:From someone who wasn't there, what always surprises me about this video is it appears the fans in the front tier are doing their best at vocally supporting the team while those in the upper tier appear to be statues. Maybe it's just me ?9 -
That's great, as I said I wasn't there & from the video it "appears" that there wasn't any movement/support, happy to be correctedValleyGary said:
I was in the upper and it was bouncingcharltonbob said:From someone who wasn't there, what always surprises me about this video is it appears the fans in the front tier are doing their best at vocally supporting the team while those in the upper tier appear to be statues. Maybe it's just me ?0 -
I must be getting old as watching that video makes me quite tearful!!3
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The home areas would have had plenty of tourists and casuals too. Such games are definitely an opportunity to visit an iconic stadium for both home and away fans. It's similar to England games at Wembley for minor games.Braziliance said:
Probably cause not all in attendance were Charlton fans.charltonbob said:From someone who wasn't there, what always surprises me about this video is it appears the fans in the front tier are doing their best at vocally supporting the team while those in the upper tier appear to be statues. Maybe it's just me ?
Imagine there was a lot of friends and family brought along. You're never going to see 9000/9000 singing away, we simply just don't have that kind of support.
I went to Everton on Thursday and there were definitely plenty of tourists and once a season fans there. You could see them out and about in Liverpool on Thursday and Friday.1 -
Being a clever dick i walked from the city centre to the ground and got absolutely soaked. I stood like a statue because 501's and soggy pants don't encourage much movement.charltonbob said:From someone who wasn't there, what always surprises me about this video is it appears the fans in the front tier are doing their best at vocally supporting the team while those in the upper tier appear to be statues. Maybe it's just me ?1 -
I actually remember the United fans complimenting our fans on the noise.Braziliance said:
Probably cause not all in attendance were Charlton fans.charltonbob said:From someone who wasn't there, what always surprises me about this video is it appears the fans in the front tier are doing their best at vocally supporting the team while those in the upper tier appear to be statues. Maybe it's just me ?
Imagine there was a lot of friends and family brought along. You're never going to see 9000/9000 singing away, we simply just don't have that kind of support.1 - Sponsored links:
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Singing 'you've seen utd now fuck off home' was a bit harsh though.redbuttle said:
I actually remember the United fans complimenting our fans on the noise.Braziliance said:
Probably cause not all in attendance were Charlton fans.charltonbob said:From someone who wasn't there, what always surprises me about this video is it appears the fans in the front tier are doing their best at vocally supporting the team while those in the upper tier appear to be statues. Maybe it's just me ?
Imagine there was a lot of friends and family brought along. You're never going to see 9000/9000 singing away, we simply just don't have that kind of support.0 -
Yeah cause it was pretty decent. Still doesn't change that not everyone there was singing and getting involved. I know this cause where I was sitting (near the front bottom section) there was a fair few people not getting involved, and even my cousin George said something along the lines of "you'd think people would be more energetic and up for it against ManU away".redbuttle said:
I actually remember the United fans complimenting our fans on the noise.Braziliance said:
Probably cause not all in attendance were Charlton fans.charltonbob said:From someone who wasn't there, what always surprises me about this video is it appears the fans in the front tier are doing their best at vocally supporting the team while those in the upper tier appear to be statues. Maybe it's just me ?
Imagine there was a lot of friends and family brought along. You're never going to see 9000/9000 singing away, we simply just don't have that kind of support.
Not that I really care about how people choose to express themselves when they travel away or to home games, I've got time for anyone who forks out to watch. Especially when we have been terrible for most of the last 15 years.
But someone said the atmosphere didn't seem all that, in some sections and I'd agree because I remember thinking the same at times. I'd guess there was at least 2k or so fans there that weren't Charlton, same as the home end, bet there was loads of day trippers.
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I was in the upper tier. I was surprised at how many were singing - I'd say the large majority (especially "Charlton till I die" as that doesn't really require much knowledge...).Braziliance said:
Probably cause not all in attendance were Charlton fans.charltonbob said:From someone who wasn't there, what always surprises me about this video is it appears the fans in the front tier are doing their best at vocally supporting the team while those in the upper tier appear to be statues. Maybe it's just me ?
Imagine there was a lot of friends and family brought along. You're never going to see 9000/9000 singing away, we simply just don't have that kind of support.1 -
Perhaps not knowledge, but deep thought and wisdom, certainly.1
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redbuttle said:
I actually remember the United fans complimenting our fans on the noise.Braziliance said:
Probably cause not all in attendance were Charlton fans.charltonbob said:From someone who wasn't there, what always surprises me about this video is it appears the fans in the front tier are doing their best at vocally supporting the team while those in the upper tier appear to be statues. Maybe it's just me ?
Imagine there was a lot of friends and family brought along. You're never going to see 9000/9000 singing away, we simply just don't have that kind of support.I think I read somewhere that their fans considered our support the best they had seen at OT in a long time.On the singing front, everyone within eyesight of us three was singing throughout the game.Brilliant day and night, and I had the great pleasure of meeting some CL legends as well, @Covered_End @AFKABartram @KBslittlesis5 -
I was in the centre of the upper central area and everybody sang throughout. Different songs were initiated in different areas of the support, and bear in mind the ‘initiators’ were not clustered together as they would be in the covered end upper, so everybody all singing the same thing at the same time was a bit hard to coordinate, but it happened a lot.
Michael Gray (yes him) is quoted as saying it was the best away support ever, and only matched by away support at Old Trafford by a European team.
On occasion we can have excellent loud non stop away support, like in cup games at Ipswich, Leeds (in that 1-1 we had fewer, but were incredibly loud and sustained), Coventry, Fulham (absolutely non stop) and others I have forgotten. Tottenham. In league games it can happen too, like frequently at Arsenal.
The support at Manchester United was even more remarkable considering it was a grim up north miserable mid week in a January.
We can grow that kind of support in a more sustained and consistent way if we were well run.
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