1 x RB 1 x CB 1 x LB 1 x CM 1 x CAM 1 x LW 1 x RW 1 x ST
3 out and 8 in sounds about right?
Would probably get 2 Right wingers instead of the left winger as Campbell and CBT both prefer the left. I think we need 2 strikers as Leaburn is quite injury prone and we can’t rely on Chuks
Ideally get 2 left backs as well but that may be less likely, so hopefully we get Sessegnon as the RB so Thomas is down to 3rd choice LB
Don't quite get that about Leaburn being "injury prone", the sort of phrase you might well use with Chuks, but not Leaburn, who has just completed his first season, agree he suffered a bit last few games, and was maybe overplayed a bit, due to team selection options, but injury prone...🤷♂️
I think he was injured a fair bit while he was with us from 16-18. Which is why he kind of came out of nowhere last pre-season when many thought it would be Kanu getting the opportunities. It was probably due to him growing so much so might be less of an issue now, he’s obviously not Chuks level but I still think he’s likely to pick up a couple of injuries and will need his minutes managed
1 x RB 1 x CB 1 x LB 1 x CM 1 x CAM 1 x LW 1 x RW 1 x ST
3 out and 8 in sounds about right?
Would probably get 2 Right wingers instead of the left winger as Campbell and CBT both prefer the left. I think we need 2 strikers as Leaburn is quite injury prone and we can’t rely on Chuks
Ideally get 2 left backs as well but that may be less likely, so hopefully we get Sessegnon as the RB so Thomas is down to 3rd choice LB
Don't quite get that about Leaburn being "injury prone", the sort of phrase you might well use with Chuks, but not Leaburn, who has just completed his first season, agree he suffered a bit last few games, and was maybe overplayed a bit, due to team selection options, but injury prone...🤷♂️
I think he was injured a fair bit while he was with us from 16-18. Which is why he kind of came out of nowhere last pre-season when many thought it would be Kanu getting the opportunities. It was probably due to him growing so much so might be less of an issue now, he’s obviously not Chuks level but I still think he’s likely to pick up a couple of injuries and will need his minutes managed
It’s exactly why all three of Leaburn, Kanu and now perhaps Casey should all be managed with time playing. I think Miles got a raw deal last year in that respect although to his credit he came through. Doubt either Kanu or Casey are genuine first team options and should in preference both go out on loan. It’s why we need two strikers in to allow for Miles having some respite. If he’s relied on week in week out I can see him picking up injuries and hampering his development.
I don't agree with a lot Golfie has to say, but he has a point, one year deal for Hector is disappointing...
One year deal is worse than a two year deal but that’s as far as I’d go.
In contrast a one year deal is better than no deal at all, it’s better than a rival signing him, it’s better than a championship side signing him, he’s better than Inniss, he proved end of last season he was more than good enough.
’We didn’t have the team last season but he’s (Holden) going to build a team to meet that objective (promotion)’
Presumably Hector’s decision to sign early is partly based on assurances that we’re going to have a go this year. Let’s hope he and Holden haven’t been sold any flannel by the new owners, and Holden is actually given the resources and freedom to build a promotion-winning squad.
I think what Hector meant was: "We didn't have the team last season, but personally I would've kept them all on as squad players."
we have swapped an experienced goalie for a relatively inexperienced one we have lost Sess our LB and only have a CB as his replacement we have swapped Clare for Manny so our defence and mid field defence is the same as the end of last season averaging a 2 goal concede a game we have lost our top goal scorer and have a couple of untried youngsters as current replacements we have a proved goalscorer when he is fit but no-one seems to know if he is ready for a full season
wow that's good isn't it?
I must have missed the announcement that the season is now starting tomorrow and we're playing Orient
We play Welling tomorrow, can joke all we want but that's where the season starts so we are ready for our opening game.
It really is groundhog day, all the posts on this thread are identical year after year.
We don't sign any of the best performers in the league while rival clubs will and while they do there will be such posts as 'We were never in for him' or 'Most clubs aren't doing business right now'
The clubs who are serious either have their squad ready now or are adding players.
We have the shittest recruitment team in the whole of the EFL in terms of our stature, I am absolutely adamant on that.
Our signings will be, a left back on loan, a winger on loan, a midfielder on loan, one of the three will be our best player like the loans usually are, we will sign cast offs no one else wants and they will be billed as players we have wanted by our pony recruitment team.
We will probably finish in the region of 9th to 14th. Might sack our manager along the way, lose our loans and our players that have one year left and then do it all again next season.
For every player we sign, that isn't crocked, an ex player or someone who is championship/higher end league 1 quality (loans not included) I will donate a tenner to the upbeats
Great post. Spot on - especially the 2nd to last paragraph. Just storing up trouble for a years time. Where is the stability ? We could build a centre half pairing of Hector & Thomas and both leave next summer.
Have we learnt nothing from the past few seasons ? Squad churn after squad churn and we wonder why we are mid table.
I don't agree with a lot Golfie has to say, but he has a point, one year deal for Hector is disappointing...
One year deal is worse than a two year deal but that’s as far as I’d go.
In contrast a one year deal is better than no deal at all, it’s better than a rival signing him, it’s better than a championship side signing him, he’s better than Inniss, he proved end of last season he was more than good enough.
This is positive.
Keep telling yourself that
So which part of this am I wrong on?
“In contrast a one year deal is better than no deal at all, it’s better than a rival signing him, it’s better than a championship side signing him, he’s better than Inniss, he proved end of last season he was more than good enough.”
Yeah, we only had that JRS bloke for a year, what a waste that was!
Not a waste no. But we now have to replace him.
Good luck finding a wideman/winger who is going to score us 12 goals next season.
And the 1 year contract stuff is just like having a loan player. So we will be going into the new season with 7 or 8 of these 1 season wonders.
lets just see where we are in July 2024. Stable or squad rebuilding AGAIN
What's your suggestion then? That instead of putting ourselves through the pain of only having JRS for a year we should have signed a lesser player for three years? There's a reason we were able to get a player as good as him, and it's because he's a Premier League loanee. Maybe we should just pick up players based on how long they're willing to commit? Because if we'd done that I think you miiiiiiiiiiight have whined about that too.
Yeah, we only had that JRS bloke for a year, what a waste that was!
Not a waste no. But we now have to replace him.
Good luck finding a wideman/winger who is going to score us 12 goals next season.
And the 1 year contract stuff is just like having a loan player. So we will be going into the new season with 7 or 8 of these 1 season wonders.
lets just see where we are in July 2024. Stable or squad rebuilding AGAIN
What's your suggestion then? That instead of putting ourselves through the pain of only having JRS for a year we should have signed a lesser player for three years? There's a reason we were able to get a player as good as him, and it's because he's a Premier League loanee. Maybe we should just pick up players based on how long they're willing to commit? Because if we'd done that I think you miiiiiiiiiiight have whined about that too.
Obviously we shouldn't have players like JRS, Cullen, Gallagher etc on loan because we will need to replace them next season. I mean it's obvious isn't it? I mean no one else uses loan players in League 1 do they?
Yeah, we only had that JRS bloke for a year, what a waste that was!
Well where are we now? It was successful loan spell for himself and his parent club, but the reality is we gave a Palace player a platform to increase his value and his goals didn't promote us.
No point arguing if we would have been relegated without him as we will never know, but JRS being here didn't progress us as a club.
Only positive maybe that Premier league clubs may look at the success loan players have here (typically) and keep using us to elevate their players.
You have to see the point that loan players and one year contract extensions aren't a massive positive unless they are used to bolster an already strong squad and give us a bit of momentum on a promotion charge. Our best attacker/player last season had no longevity with this club and our best defender doesn't want to commit his long term future to the club, not the best situation
I just think Hector considers himself better than mid-table League One, and he's likely correct. Fact is given his age and lack of game time prior to joining us with the time out, he is where he is. I'm happy with a year contract, it's a year longer than Ness and Elerewe have a great role model to play alongside as well as his expertise in defence helping us out this year.
Our season hinges on a knife-edge, it all depends on whether you have faith that the rumours regarding SE7P Ltd looking to spend money on 5-6 talented signings have any legs. If they do then we should be in or around playoffs when you add those signings to Isted, Hector, Dobson, Leaburn, Fraser etc, if they don't and we continue our previous transfer targets of the last few years then we won't and it'll be another torrid time.
Let's get this takeover done and we'll see where we are at the end of the window.
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Have we learnt nothing from the past few seasons ? Squad churn after squad churn and we wonder why we are mid table.
“In contrast a one year deal is better than no deal at all, it’s better than a rival signing him, it’s better than a championship side signing him, he’s better than Inniss, he proved end of last season he was more than good enough.”
Or other targets in those positions
3 loanees (a right back, a striker and a winger) and I think that'll be us for the season
Whether that's good enough we'll have to see
If so what injuries has he had?
Good luck finding a wideman/winger who is going to score us 12 goals next season.
And the 1 year contract stuff is just like having a loan player. So we will be going into the new season with 7 or 8 of these 1 season wonders.
lets just see where we are in July 2024. Stable or squad rebuilding AGAIN
One person said he was injury prone when we first signed him, which was wrong, and it seems to have been repeated ever since.
No point arguing if we would have been relegated without him as we will never know, but JRS being here didn't progress us as a club.
Only positive maybe that Premier league clubs may look at the success loan players have here (typically) and keep using us to elevate their players.
You have to see the point that loan players and one year contract extensions aren't a massive positive unless they are used to bolster an already strong squad and give us a bit of momentum on a promotion charge. Our best attacker/player last season had no longevity with this club and our best defender doesn't want to commit his long term future to the club, not the best situation
Our season hinges on a knife-edge, it all depends on whether you have faith that the rumours regarding SE7P Ltd looking to spend money on 5-6 talented signings have any legs. If they do then we should be in or around playoffs when you add those signings to Isted, Hector, Dobson, Leaburn, Fraser etc, if they don't and we continue our previous transfer targets of the last few years then we won't and it'll be another torrid time.
Let's get this takeover done and we'll see where we are at the end of the window.
He has been mentioned a few times in the past.