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Summer Transfer Rumours - Deadline Day p446
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Henry, Thomas and Hector could be doing exactly the same thing and shopping around to see what the best fit there is for them out there.ShootersHillGuru said:I’m sure that the players who have visited Sparrows Lane for a chat with Holden are players we’d like to attract but I’m guessing those players are also looking elsewhere and chatting to other managers too. I very much doubt we have any signings locked on at this point. Hopefully we have a few that look likely by this point.Whilst all these free agents are getting paid till the end of June, there is no panic to find a club just yet2 -
Majority of contracts run to 30th June as standard, that’s not stopped clubs announcing signings where the contracts officially start on 1st July.MuttleyCAFC said:I suspect it is more to do with the player being under contract to another club until the contract expires so it wrong to announce him as your player. That is why we are not seeing loads of announcements elsewhere either.1 -
The player I mentioned a few pages back has been to the training ground more than once, sounds hopefully but obviously no guaranteesShootersHillGuru said:I’m sure that the players who have visited Sparrows Lane for a chat with Holden are players we’d like to attract but I’m guessing those players are also looking elsewhere and chatting to other managers too. I very much doubt we have any signings locked on at this point. Hopefully we have a few that look likely by this point.18 -
Players that are announced on day 1 after last contract ends are either
1) insecure (fitness , age, ability..etc)
2) know they are being offered a deal that is crazy money. (My guess is that we are not in a position to throw money around)
Would you sell your house to the first buyer- well yes but only in circumstances that it's been on the market for ages and there's been no previous interest. Otherwise it's better to play the market.
So, I am hoping we are going for players attractive to other clubs as well (ie generally agreed to have talent) so I am not expecting any early announcements (takeover is another factor)
A chunk will be done at the last minute, and the bulk should be done before pre-season.
Sit back and enjoy the Bank Hol.
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That is where it’s typically keptCafc43v3r said:
Minimal fee, which will probably actually end up in Banks, or his agent's, pocket and a sell on fee would be my guess.Callumcafc said:
Thought he was younger than that so perhaps more feasible than I thought… would still require a not insignificant fee though you’d thinkScoham said:
He’s 22 in September, been loaned out since 2020 and JRS will be ahead of him, doesn’t seem that unlikely to me.Callumcafc said:
This has been on the cards for a while. Obviously not done until its done.
You can say what you like about Palace but they are very good at rehousing their unwanted players.2 -
Players visiting Sparrows Lane for a chat with Holden, to see if they want to come to us or another club makes the process sound like choosing a school for your children, with Holden the headmaster, and the agents playing the role of the parents...
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Garrymanilow said:
That is where it’s typically keptCafc43v3r said:
Minimal fee, which will probably actually end up in Banks, or his agent's, pocket and a sell on fee would be my guess.Callumcafc said:
Thought he was younger than that so perhaps more feasible than I thought… would still require a not insignificant fee though you’d thinkScoham said:
He’s 22 in September, been loaned out since 2020 and JRS will be ahead of him, doesn’t seem that unlikely to me.Callumcafc said:
This has been on the cards for a while. Obviously not done until its done.
You can say what you like about Palace but they are very good at rehousing their unwanted players.
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Rangers did it couple of days ago with Kieran Dowell from Norwich, pre contract agreement, stating he officially becomes a Rangers player 1st JulyScoham said:
Majority of contracts run to 30th June as standard, that’s not stopped clubs announcing signings where the contracts officially start on 1st July.MuttleyCAFC said:I suspect it is more to do with the player being under contract to another club until the contract expires so it wrong to announce him as your player. That is why we are not seeing loads of announcements elsewhere either.2 -
Would be happy if we signed Scott Banks. Effectively it would be a like for like replacement for JRS. I would be surprised if it were permanent because he played and scored against PSV the other night.
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What I meant was that Holden will want to build a team in his own image.FishCostaFortune said:
Its not like he is going to say that he wants a team of mercenaries.Oggy Red said:
It's not just about Dean Holden selling his ideas to prospective signings though.FishCostaFortune said:
That does sound positive and fits in with what another poster was saying about potential new players being at the training ground.fenaddick said:Not a rumour but impressive there’s been no leaks from this https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/potential-charlton-athletic-signings-have-held-face-to-face-training-ground-meetings-with-dean-holden/
However, and this is no disrespect to Dean at all, but I feel like it’s just a variation of a theme that I always hear most managers mention.
’big club, impressed by facilities, the way we want to play football etc etc..’
To be honest there’s not really necessarily much different he can say, but will be nice to see the words back up by some good signings.
It also gives Holden the chance to check out that a player's character and personality fits in with the ethos of what will be instilled into the squad.
Remember: the no dickeads rule.
It’s just a variation on a theme of what all managers say about ‘having the right character’ in the squad.
Nothing against Dean at all, as I believe him more than any recent manager when he says the stuff he does - but ultimately it won’t matter if we don’t have the budget and resources to get those players.
Footballing ability will be important of course, but the right character and temperament even more so;
the right personality to be a team player and fight for the cause.
It's the Third Division, no point trying to play like Man City unless you've got top Prem players. Ben Garner found that out,
No wimpy, head drop players either, only those that will roll up their sleeves if we go a goal down.
Anyway, that'll be the aim. It's no different to what Chris Powell did.
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There, fixed it for you.Cafc43v3r said:Callumcafc said:
Thought he was younger than that so perhaps more feasible than I thought… would still require a not insignificant fee though you’d thinkScoham said:
He’s 22 in September, been loaned out since 2020 and JRS will be ahead of him, doesn’t seem that unlikely to me.Callumcafc said:
You can say what you like about Palace but they are very good at rehousing their unwanted players...... to us!
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The difference in age between JRS and Banks is only a year but Banks has already played 3 seasons of men's football.Richard J said:Would be happy if we signed Scott Banks. Effectively it would be a like for like replacement for JRS. I would be surprised if it were permanent because he played and scored against PSV the other night.
I guess time will tell
He is in the last year of his contract so either they give him a new one and loan him out for the next two seasons then sell him or sell him now with a buy back/% sell on/first refusal type clause. He might up as a premier league player, Cullen will at 27, but I can't see it in the next 2-3 years. I fully expect JRS to be a premier league regular within 18 months.
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Like for like, but less good. Hence Banks being a realistic target to buy, while JRS isn't.Richard J said:Would be happy if we signed Scott Banks. Effectively it would be a like for like replacement for JRS. I would be surprised if it were permanent because he played and scored against PSV the other night.
I guess time will tell
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Is he a realistic target to buy though ?killerandflash said:
Like for like, but less good. Hence Banks being a realistic target to buy, while JRS isn't.Richard J said:Would be happy if we signed Scott Banks. Effectively it would be a like for like replacement for JRS. I would be surprised if it were permanent because he played and scored against PSV the other night.
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See my above comments but he isn't realistically going to get in Palace's team in the near future and no big championship side are going to pay money for on the back of last season.ShootersHillGuru said:
Is he a realistic target to buy though ?killerandflash said:
Like for like, but less good. Hence Banks being a realistic target to buy, while JRS isn't.Richard J said:Would be happy if we signed Scott Banks. Effectively it would be a like for like replacement for JRS. I would be surprised if it were permanent because he played and scored against PSV the other night.
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Maybe all these supposed signings are dependent on the ownership issues. If a change happens I think they will want to unveil a few signings soon after, to say look at what we can do.2
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You okay there Callum?3
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Scott Wright - winger from Rangers?
Will Wright - CB Gillingham?
Assuming the photos are some sort of clue, best I could come up with! 1 -
Ah! I thought he wanted to take Ian Wright up the Scottish Highlands
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Meander Jean - ineffective CAM . Plays for SteinhousemuirCallumcafc said:3 -
Glen Butterworth from Stockton Town would be a statement of sorts.Callumcafc said:1 -
Getting warmer0
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Danny Butterworth the Blackburn striker that was on loan at Port Vale?0
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We are signing Jean, a Brazilian goalkeeper
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_(footballer,_born_October_1995)
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Btw just a warning, I have absolutely no insider info but the last time I did one of these it was for Conor McGrandles so…1
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He spent time on loan at a fellow L1 club this past season, but not Butterworth no.MarcusH26 said:Danny Butterworth the Blackburn striker that was on loan at Port Vale?2 -
So didnt end very well thenCallumcafc said:Btw just a warning, I have absolutely no insider info but the last time I did one of these it was for Conor McGrandles so… 1 -
Can u give us the position ?Callumcafc said:
He spent time on loan at a fellow L1 club this past season, but not Butterworth no.MarcusH26 said:Danny Butterworth the Blackburn striker that was on loan at Port Vale?0 -
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