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Summer Transfer Rumours - Deadline Day p446

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scott Banks 
    Think it's a perm.
    Surely not
    He’s 22 in September, been loaned out since 2020 and JRS will be ahead of him, doesn’t seem that unlikely to me.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,525
    Talk of Clare interesting some Championship clubs, and immediately we get the line "not good enough for the Championship" just because he didn't do so good for us,... well we certainly have a high opinion of ourselves sometimes don't we...
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,954
    Talk of Clare interesting some Championship clubs, and immediately we get the line "not good enough for the Championship" just because he didn't do so good for us,... well we certainly have a high opinion of ourselves sometimes don't we...
    Odd take.  People have seen him be average in L1, so think he won't be much good in the Championship?

    Charlton don't exist in some weird isolation,  he was playing 23 other L1 clubs.
  • matt88
    matt88 Posts: 465
    CH4RLTON said:
    Sorry guys just noticed a posted this in the wrong thread earlier so putting it in here before the off topic police have a melt down :0

    Heard a rumour that one of people Dean Holden has spoken to is Aiden Flint, take from that what you will, person who told me has been right and wrong in the past :)
    Could make sense if he’s worked with him previously at Bristol C and briefly at Stoke.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,765
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scott Banks 
    Think it's a perm.
    Surely not
    He’s 22 in September, been loaned out since 2020 and JRS will be ahead of him, doesn’t seem that unlikely to me.
    Thought he was younger than that so perhaps more feasible than I thought… would still require a not insignificant fee though you’d think
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,525
    edited May 2023
    Talk of Clare interesting some Championship clubs, and immediately we get the line "not good enough for the Championship" just because he didn't do so good for us,... well we certainly have a high opinion of ourselves sometimes don't we...
    Odd take.  People have seen him be average in L1, so think he won't be much good in the Championship?

    Charlton don't exist in some weird isolation,  he was playing 23 other L1 clubs.
    Fair enough...it's not all about Clare or anyone in the team, it is about the team as a whole, and the team as a whole has been below average for some time now, I just think that Clare could do better in a better team..ie a Championship possibly...just my take...🤷‍♂️
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,496
    Aden Flint being followed on Twitter by Ron Dangerfield Charlton secretary ?
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,230
    Aden Flint being followed on Twitter by Ron Dangerfield Charlton secretary ?
    Close but no cigar Moore


  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Aden Flint being followed on Twitter by Ron Dangerfield Charlton secretary ?
    Good spot but looks like it's a Stoke fan who was at Maldon & Tiptree when Ron was rather than Aden Flint himself.


  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    edited May 2023
    Aden Flint being followed on Twitter by Ron Dangerfield Charlton secretary ?
    ADAM Flint is not ADEN Flint. 
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    The real Aden Flint follows Stoke's Tyrese Campbell 👀
  • SheedyCAFC
    SheedyCAFC Posts: 1,245
    I was told by those involved in our recruitment that the average age of the squad needs increasing to improve the current imbalance (too young) or in other words some more experienced players would be coming in and those would also feature some stronger (body type) players, particularly at the back. The first bit aligns with the sorts of players being mentioned/suggested. 
    Would be quite funny if we brought Darren Pratley back after getting rid of him for being too old
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    edited May 2023
    Just to end any nonsense that we can't sign or announce anything until the window opens or 1st July... AFC Wimbledon have announced their first signing.

    Not sure why Holden tried to tell us otherwise.

    “We can’t announce any signings until the window opens,” said Holden, when asked for an update on the club’s negotiations.



    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/potential-charlton-athletic-signings-have-held-face-to-face-training-ground-meetings-with-dean-holden/
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,269
    Scoham said:
    Just to end any nonsense that we can't sign or announce anything until the window opens or 1st July... AFC Wimbledon have announced their first signing.

    Not sure why Holden tried to tell us otherwise.

    “We can’t announce any signings until the window opens,” said Holden, when asked for an update on the club’s negotiations.



    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/potential-charlton-athletic-signings-have-held-face-to-face-training-ground-meetings-with-dean-holden/
    A family friend, they are all Addicks, probably paves the way for Gilbey to go back to Stevanage
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,032
    edited May 2023
    Isn't Aden Flint playing for Wednesday in the playoff final?
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    Scoham said:
    Just to end any nonsense that we can't sign or announce anything until the window opens or 1st July... AFC Wimbledon have announced their first signing.

    Not sure why Holden tried to tell us otherwise.

    “We can’t announce any signings until the window opens,” said Holden, when asked for an update on the club’s negotiations.



    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/potential-charlton-athletic-signings-have-held-face-to-face-training-ground-meetings-with-dean-holden/
    Perhaps when he said "can't" he meant in full: " we can't because we haven't got the money right now to pay signing-on fees or agents expenses". We have to wait until someone comes in who is prepared to give the club some money. That won't be until after the window opens."
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    Scoham said:
    Just to end any nonsense that we can't sign or announce anything until the window opens or 1st July... AFC Wimbledon have announced their first signing.

    Not sure why Holden tried to tell us otherwise.

    “We can’t announce any signings until the window opens,” said Holden, when asked for an update on the club’s negotiations.



    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/potential-charlton-athletic-signings-have-held-face-to-face-training-ground-meetings-with-dean-holden/
    I mean he's kind of right, deals aren't officially official until the window opens. But obviously stuff like this happens all the time. 

    I wouldn't read too much into that, I feel like that's a thing managers say, like "I don't want to talk about another club's player." 

    That's not to say funds are available or that we'll sign anyone this summer, it's just I wouldn't base too much around that line alone.
  • JordanJLD
    JordanJLD Posts: 165
    JordanJLD said:
    It’s great seeing all these young players signing their first professional contracts. Future first team starters the lot of them! Future as in 5th August 2023 at this bloody rate. 
    There’s pessimism and there’s golfie and then this.
    Was only joking fella



    They’ll be sold before they make it to the first team ffs*



    *another joke 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited May 2023
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scott Banks 
    Think it's a perm.
    Surely not
    He’s 22 in September, been loaned out since 2020 and JRS will be ahead of him, doesn’t seem that unlikely to me.
    Thought he was younger than that so perhaps more feasible than I thought… would still require a not insignificant fee though you’d think
    Minimal fee, which will probably actually end up in Banks, or his agent's, pocket and a sell on fee would be my guess.

    This has been on the cards for a while.  Obviously not done until its done.

    You can say what you like about Palace but they are very good at rehousing their unwanted players.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    SDAddick said:
    Scoham said:
    Just to end any nonsense that we can't sign or announce anything until the window opens or 1st July... AFC Wimbledon have announced their first signing.

    Not sure why Holden tried to tell us otherwise.

    “We can’t announce any signings until the window opens,” said Holden, when asked for an update on the club’s negotiations.



    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/potential-charlton-athletic-signings-have-held-face-to-face-training-ground-meetings-with-dean-holden/
    I mean he's kind of right, deals aren't officially official until the window opens. But obviously stuff like this happens all the time. 

    I wouldn't read too much into that, I feel like that's a thing managers say, like "I don't want to talk about another club's player." 

    That's not to say funds are available or that we'll sign anyone this summer, it's just I wouldn't base too much around that line alone.
    No, he said ‘we can’t announce any signings until the window opens’ which is not correct. Maybe he could have said ‘we don’t want to announce any signings until the window opens’ but if someone had signed why wouldn’t you want to announce it especially if you are trying to shift season tickets. So either Dean isn’t aware that you don’t have to wait until the window opens, which I doubt, or we won’t have tied anyone down until after the window has opened which is very likely.
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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    SDAddick said:
    Scoham said:
    Just to end any nonsense that we can't sign or announce anything until the window opens or 1st July... AFC Wimbledon have announced their first signing.

    Not sure why Holden tried to tell us otherwise.

    “We can’t announce any signings until the window opens,” said Holden, when asked for an update on the club’s negotiations.



    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/potential-charlton-athletic-signings-have-held-face-to-face-training-ground-meetings-with-dean-holden/
    I mean he's kind of right, deals aren't officially official until the window opens. But obviously stuff like this happens all the time. 

    I wouldn't read too much into that, I feel like that's a thing managers say, like "I don't want to talk about another club's player." 

    That's not to say funds are available or that we'll sign anyone this summer, it's just I wouldn't base too much around that line alone.
    He is not kind of right at all.  You can sign anyone at any time you like, if all 3 parties agree.  What you can't do is transfer the registration outside the window.  As we have got no games before the window opens it makes no difference at all.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    Richard J said:
    Isn't Aden Flint playing for Wednesday tomorrow?
    He's on loan there
  • Major
    Major Posts: 1,026
    Scoham said:
    Just to end any nonsense that we can't sign or announce anything until the window opens or 1st July... AFC Wimbledon have announced their first signing.

    Not sure why Holden tried to tell us otherwise.

    “We can’t announce any signings until the window opens,” said Holden, when asked for an update on the club’s negotiations.



    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/potential-charlton-athletic-signings-have-held-face-to-face-training-ground-meetings-with-dean-holden/
    Perhaps because of agreements with other clubs, while the player is still contracted to them?  Maybe it's club policy. I don't know and nor do you, so why make Holden out to be the villain?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited May 2023
    Major said:
    Scoham said:
    Just to end any nonsense that we can't sign or announce anything until the window opens or 1st July... AFC Wimbledon have announced their first signing.

    Not sure why Holden tried to tell us otherwise.

    “We can’t announce any signings until the window opens,” said Holden, when asked for an update on the club’s negotiations.



    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/potential-charlton-athletic-signings-have-held-face-to-face-training-ground-meetings-with-dean-holden/
    Perhaps because of agreements with other clubs, while the player is still contracted to them?  Maybe it's club policy. I don't know and nor do you, so why make Holden out to be the villain?
    He isn't a villain.  Maybe he miss spoke, was misquoted, didn't actually mean, unintentionally, what he said.  What he was quoted as saying isn't factually correct.  That's all.

    Too many heroes and villains.  He may have done it on purpose, he might not have done.  He might believe it to be true.  I don't see any conspiracy.

    Clubs announce signing our players outside the window, we have done the same in the past. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,042
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scott Banks 
    Think it's a perm.
    Surely not
    He’s 22 in September, been loaned out since 2020 and JRS will be ahead of him, doesn’t seem that unlikely to me.
    Thought he was younger than that so perhaps more feasible than I thought… would still require a not insignificant fee though you’d think
    Minimal fee, which will probably actually end up in Banks, or his agent's, pocket and a sell on fee would be my guess.

    This has been on the cards for a while.  Obviously not done until its done.

    You can say what you like about Palace but they are very good at rehousing their unwanted players.
    And sadly, for many years they have appointed the right manager for their needs.
    They're still c**** though!
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    SDAddick said:
    Scoham said:
    Just to end any nonsense that we can't sign or announce anything until the window opens or 1st July... AFC Wimbledon have announced their first signing.

    Not sure why Holden tried to tell us otherwise.

    “We can’t announce any signings until the window opens,” said Holden, when asked for an update on the club’s negotiations.



    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/potential-charlton-athletic-signings-have-held-face-to-face-training-ground-meetings-with-dean-holden/
    I mean he's kind of right, deals aren't officially official until the window opens. But obviously stuff like this happens all the time. 

    I wouldn't read too much into that, I feel like that's a thing managers say, like "I don't want to talk about another club's player." 

    That's not to say funds are available or that we'll sign anyone this summer, it's just I wouldn't base too much around that line alone.
    Signings are officially official no matter when they take place. The player just can’t be registered until the window open, the contract would still be valid and official.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    edited May 2023
    Major said:
    Scoham said:
    Just to end any nonsense that we can't sign or announce anything until the window opens or 1st July... AFC Wimbledon have announced their first signing.

    Not sure why Holden tried to tell us otherwise.

    “We can’t announce any signings until the window opens,” said Holden, when asked for an update on the club’s negotiations.



    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/potential-charlton-athletic-signings-have-held-face-to-face-training-ground-meetings-with-dean-holden/
    Perhaps because of agreements with other clubs, while the player is still contracted to them?  Maybe it's club policy. I don't know and nor do you, so why make Holden out to be the villain?
    It would be unusual given several clubs have announced deals throughout May, see here:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/transfers

    My guess is it’s more to do with the potential takeover than a club policy or an agreement between clubs.

    Villain? Not at all, that’s a very black and white way of looking at things. I found it strange to say it’s due to the window when we can see other clubs are announcing signings. I still back him 100% as manager.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    Scoham said:
    Major said:
    Scoham said:
    Just to end any nonsense that we can't sign or announce anything until the window opens or 1st July... AFC Wimbledon have announced their first signing.

    Not sure why Holden tried to tell us otherwise.

    “We can’t announce any signings until the window opens,” said Holden, when asked for an update on the club’s negotiations.



    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/potential-charlton-athletic-signings-have-held-face-to-face-training-ground-meetings-with-dean-holden/
    Perhaps because of agreements with other clubs, while the player is still contracted to them?  Maybe it's club policy. I don't know and nor do you, so why make Holden out to be the villain?
    It would be unusual given several clubs have announced deals throughout May, see here:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/transfers

    My guess is it’s more to do with the potential takeover than a club policy or an agreement between clubs.

    Villain? Not at all, that’s a very black and white way of looking at things. I found it strange to say it’s due to the window when we can see other clubs are announcing signings. I still back him 100% as manager.
    Chances are everyone is overthinking it. He's saying we can't announce anything because there is absolutely nothing to announce. But just saying "We're miles off, nothing lined up yet" is just going to annoy some fans so he chucked in the transfer window line as a cheap sop.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    edited May 2023
    I suspect it is more to do with the player being under contract to another club until the contract expires so it wrong to announce him as your player. That is why we are not seeing loads of announcements elsewhere either.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    I’m sure that the players who have visited Sparrows Lane for a chat with Holden are players we’d like to attract but I’m guessing those players are also looking elsewhere and chatting to other managers too. I very much doubt we have any signings locked on at this point. Hopefully we have a few that look likely by this point.