Not really sure why MS would care so much about signing May, particularly when Holden is not keen.
why isn't Holden keen I wonder? Don't think we could do any better on our normal budget unless Dean has been promised substantial funds once the takeover goes through.
Might be complete bollocks but I have heard that we did actually have an offer in for Stockton. It was higher than Burtons but only slightly, and there was another L1 club with a similar bid to us but he chose Burton as the location worked better for him. I’m assuming guaranteed game time might have been a factor also but geography was the reason given
If true, I don’t think it means much as I doubt he was a top target. When we have Leaburn and could be in for May it wouldn’t make much sense to spend too much on another striker when there are other areas of the team that need upgrading
If we can't get a fee for Kirk. Keep him and make him work to get in the squad. Simples.
I’d rather watch Woolacott be given a chance at left wing than watch him run away from another challenge and shout at his team mates because they didn’t pass to him. He doesn’t have the mentality needed for a team willing to give everything for the cause. The minimum I expect Holden to demand.
Might be complete bollocks but I have heard that we did actually have an offer in for Stockton. It was higher than Burtons but only slightly, and there was another L1 club with a similar bid to us but he chose Burton as the location worked better for him. I’m assuming guaranteed game time might have been a factor also but geography was the reason given
If true, I don’t think it means much as I doubt he was a top target. When we have Leaburn and could be in for May it wouldn’t make much sense to spend too much on another striker when there are other areas of the team that need upgrading
I have never been in the know on players so this is a first for me. I heard today that Charlie Kirk wants to stay at Charlton as he is desperate to prove himself. The source is about as good as it gets.
Desperate to stay on the wages he is currently on, it reads like.
Might be complete bollocks but I have heard that we did actually have an offer in for Stockton. It was higher than Burtons but only slightly, and there was another L1 club with a similar bid to us but he chose Burton as the location worked better for him. I’m assuming guaranteed game time might have been a factor also but geography was the reason given
If true, I don’t think it means much as I doubt he was a top target. When we have Leaburn and could be in for May it wouldn’t make much sense to spend too much on another striker when there are other areas of the team that need upgrading
we only want players with ambition for the club as well as themselves and to grow with us just like Miles should
I am. the only one who really wouldn’t want Burstow back , I was never really that impressed and suprised he went Chelsea and was really poor when he came back loan the first time around
Bit cringe that comment from Holden re; the packed valley and the player ‘already sold’. As much I think Holden is down to earth, and could be a decent manager for us, there’s something about him that gives me the sense he’s worked us out as a fanbase and very good at telling us what we want to hear.
It’s no one thing in particular, the odd comment here and there, the visits to the Oak etc. for me, although he’s come into a shambles of a club, the jury is very much still out and he needs to prove himself before all the love ins etc. you’ve got to remember his career had stalled before us and I don’t think he was in high demand
Bit cringe that comment from Holden re; the packed valley and the player ‘already sold’. As much I think Holden is down to earth, and could be a decent manager for us, there’s something about him that gives me the sense he’s worked us out as a fanbase and very good at telling us what we want to hear.
It’s no one thing in particular, the odd comment here and there, the visits to the Oak etc. for me, although he’s come into a shambles of a club, the jury is very much still out and he needs to prove himself before all the love ins etc. you’ve got to remember his career had stalled before us and I don’t think he was in high demand
I like him and hope he does well but we know from interviews that he's done that he's a very articulate and intelligent guy who knows the importance of language and words. That's not at all a bad thing but I do agree that he's definitely playing the game (probably out of necessity though) and you don't want to treat his word as gospel truth.
Same as Storrie for that matter, another old football head who is pretty adept at saying jusy enough and in just the right way to be "economic with the truth" but not an outright liar.
I have never been in the know on players so this is a first for me. I heard today that Charlie Kirk wants to stay at Charlton as he is desperate to prove himself. The source is about as good as it gets.
This season really is make or break for him here.
He was broke when he arrived and nothing changed. Get rid.
Bit cringe that comment from Holden re; the packed valley and the player ‘already sold’. As much I think Holden is down to earth, and could be a decent manager for us, there’s something about him that gives me the sense he’s worked us out as a fanbase and very good at telling us what we want to hear.
It’s no one thing in particular, the odd comment here and there, the visits to the Oak etc. for me, although he’s come into a shambles of a club, the jury is very much still out and he needs to prove himself before all the love ins etc. you’ve got to remember his career had stalled before us and I don’t think he was in high demand
I like him and hope he does well but we know from interviews that he's done that he's a very articulate and intelligent guy who knows the importance of language and words. That's not at all a bad thing but I do agree that he's definitely playing the game (probably out of necessity though) and you don't want to treat his word as gospel truth.
Same as Storrie for that matter, another old football head who is pretty adept at saying jusy enough and in just the right way to be "economic with the truth" but not an outright liar.
Holden and Storrie are trying to give us a reason to believe when there is nothing yet to believe in. Fair play to them, what else can they do in their positions. But we are the fools if we go along with the bullshit.
Bit cringe that comment from Holden re; the packed valley and the player ‘already sold’. As much I think Holden is down to earth, and could be a decent manager for us, there’s something about him that gives me the sense he’s worked us out as a fanbase and very good at telling us what we want to hear.
It’s no one thing in particular, the odd comment here and there, the visits to the Oak etc. for me, although he’s come into a shambles of a club, the jury is very much still out and he needs to prove himself before all the love ins etc. you’ve got to remember his career had stalled before us and I don’t think he was in high demand
People who understand football and football fans is a step up from what we’ve had for most of the last decade or so. But yes, plenty more for him to prove.
Curbs used to do the ‘hard sell ‘ when trying to sign new players IMO nothing wrong with what Dean is doing.I like the guy and let’s see what he can do with hopefully a full preseason of new recruits.Hopefully we get the takeover done soon and the new players follow quickly.
Bit cringe that comment from Holden re; the packed valley and the player ‘already sold’. As much I think Holden is down to earth, and could be a decent manager for us, there’s something about him that gives me the sense he’s worked us out as a fanbase and very good at telling us what we want to hear.
It’s no one thing in particular, the odd comment here and there, the visits to the Oak etc. for me, although he’s come into a shambles of a club, the jury is very much still out and he needs to prove himself before all the love ins etc. you’ve got to remember his career had stalled before us and I don’t think he was in high demand
Isn’t that true of every club owner, manager, club media etc etc. it’s called PR.
It’s what they do to get fans onside, don’t think it’s specific to just Holden.
Undeniably Kirk has looked sh*te for us. However, he clearly needs an overlapping, natural left back/full back to play with him. When was the last time we had one of those?
We have this knack of signing players and not playing to their strengths. We haven't seen first hand what Kirk's strengths are, or indeed if he has any, but it feels as though we (as in the club - not us fans) have not even tried to find out.
I won't hold my breath but if he wants to stay, Holden is happy for him to stay, and we sign a natural overlapping full back to play with him, who knows?
I am. the only one who really wouldn’t want Burstow back , I was never really that impressed and suprised he went Chelsea and was really poor when he came back loan the first time around
A year with Chelsea could have made him a lot better. Especially as he didn’t come from an academy background so was very raw when he was with us. He had pace and could finish, if they’ve made him stronger and better technically then he’d be a very good player
Bit cringe that comment from Holden re; the packed valley and the player ‘already sold’. As much I think Holden is down to earth, and could be a decent manager for us, there’s something about him that gives me the sense he’s worked us out as a fanbase and very good at telling us what we want to hear.
It’s no one thing in particular, the odd comment here and there, the visits to the Oak etc. for me, although he’s come into a shambles of a club, the jury is very much still out and he needs to prove himself before all the love ins etc. you’ve got to remember his career had stalled before us and I don’t think he was in high demand
Isn’t that true of every club owner, manager, club media etc etc. it’s called PR.
It’s what they do to get fans onside, don’t think it’s specific to just Holden.
No, it’s not specific to him and on the whole I am positive about his appointment, I just prefer the whole mixing with the fans in the oak thing done once we are turning in consistent performances on the pitch.
Hopefully he will go on to deliver that and the early signs are that he’s the most competent manager we’ve had since Bowyer (Adkins much more successful, but I think he’d lost the plot a bit by the time we got him), but getting consistent results is key.
When you look at Burstow and Leaburn, both are able lads in different ways but what I saw with Burstow was somebody who hadn't learned the other part of the game whereas Leaburn was definitely developing it. Of course we haven't seen Burstow for a season, but his game, IMO, needed league one or two defenders kicking lumps out of him. I won't go against the manager but personally I don't like the sound of such a move.
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If true, I don’t think it means much as I doubt he was a top target. When we have Leaburn and could be in for May it wouldn’t make much sense to spend too much on another striker when there are other areas of the team that need upgrading
Think we can take that as a confirmation...
It’s no one thing in particular, the odd comment here and there, the visits to the Oak etc. for me, although he’s come into a shambles of a club, the jury is very much still out and he needs to prove himself before all the love ins etc. you’ve got to remember his career had stalled before us and I don’t think he was in high demand
Ackers asking me whether he has good recruiting skills was not on my Summer transfer bingo list
I know it's Accers so it's bullshit anyway, but he's plumbing new depths of nonsense
Same as Storrie for that matter, another old football head who is pretty adept at saying jusy enough and in just the right way to be "economic with the truth" but not an outright liar.
But we are the fools if we go along with the bullshit.
IMO nothing wrong with what Dean is doing.I like the guy and let’s see what he can do with hopefully a full preseason of new recruits.Hopefully we get the takeover done soon and the new players follow quickly.
We have this knack of signing players and not playing to their strengths. We haven't seen first hand what Kirk's strengths are, or indeed if he has any, but it feels as though we (as in the club - not us fans) have not even tried to find out.
I won't hold my breath but if he wants to stay, Holden is happy for him to stay, and we sign a natural overlapping full back to play with him, who knows?
Sess performances were still really good tho, Solly struggled the last few seasons IMHO