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POST-MATCH THREAD: Oxford United vs Charlton Athletic: Saturday 26th August 2023: KO 3:00pm

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  • redlanered
    redlanered Posts: 2,195
    Before we examine our mess...how the hell are Oxford top?

    What can you say about our shambolic display?  \it has all the hallmarks of a team heading for the drop - players being thrown/kept in when they are clearly not ready, lack of intensity, confidence, touch, belief, leadership.  I hate the idea of yet another managerial change, but this is unbelievably bad.  There are no positives at all really (sure, Alfie scores, but what about that gift he spurned at 0-0?).  Anderson needed to come off at half time, Asiimwe won't progress while all around him is crumbling, I could go on...

    It just felt like one of those performances where you know it's not about a bad mistake or bit of bad luck, but a sheer lack of belief and quality
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,188
    Looks like the Holden Out ! campaigns gaining impetus.

    He will probably get the sack, but the underlying problems will remain IMO
  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,336
    edited August 2023
    Not time for pessimism. Many thought we could scrape into the playoffs last year we ended up 15 points short. We’re only 7 points off at the moment.
  • fenn3098
    fenn3098 Posts: 171
    I blame @LouisMend for getting his graph out after the Orient game.
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,769
    Management team lost us the first half, poor decision making in the second. If the long throw is the outcome of a week of training god help us. First thing is don't loose. Should have stopped the rot with a draw.
    Another season of shite coming along.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,490
    Just a mess. Players playing out of position, a formation that hasn't worked for us for a long time. It's not all Holden's fault but he's showing worrying signs of being out of his depth. 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,986
    Yeah sack Holden then take a few weeks to find a new bloke, who won’t have picked any of the players signed this summer and will have ANOTHER different style of play.

    I cannot believe it but we are actually sinking lower. 
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    Joint worst start since 1990, equal with Iain Dowie in 2006. Long way back for Holden from there, injuries and squad challenges notwithstanding.
  • KettsJohn
    KettsJohn Posts: 1,210
    Curbs & Brown please. Current management team really not up to it.
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  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,336
    As a club THEY get worse month by month. Have been for years. Bringing in dross at player and management and recruitment level, and budding young players that are not ready to compensate has led to a complete and utter embarrassment and the decimation of a proud history. 
  • PeanutsMolloy
    PeanutsMolloy Posts: 6,713

    Naive choice of starting formation
    Naive choice of starting personnel
    Naive late-game tactics - YET AGAIN.

    Only 1 man to blame I'm afraid. Everyone makes mistakes but if he won’t or can't learn from them, and it's abundantly clear he hasn’t to date, then there's only 1 option open to the new owners.



     

  • James86
    James86 Posts: 329
    Darren Moore anyone?
    I think I’d bring back Curbs short term just to steady the ship. Majority will disagree. 
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,185
    Terrell Thomas has come on at 80 minutes in the last 3 games. At the point he comes on we’ve been drawing, and every single game we’ve lost. 4 if you count the Newport game in the Cup too.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    There is a lot to discuss and dare I say criticise with regards Holden at the moment.

    But that first half line up takes the biscuit.

    What in the flying fuck was that about.

    It wasn’t an U21 game. Words failed me.
  • Asiimwe and Anderson look knackered. Those boys need a rest. 
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 3,930
    I don’t see Holden getting another job after us. Really don’t understand why these owners wanted him.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,906
    We all knew that after the poor results so far we needed a reaction today. We didn’t get it and we’re lucky to get a 2-1 defeat. Next Saturday is massive now, anything less than a comfortable 3 points and we will be in the bottom 3 in no time at all with the games following. So pissed off that the positivity has ended 5 games in
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Asiimwe and Anderson look knackered. Those boys need a rest. 
    But we have no other right back and it seems to be accepted that Terry Taylor will take months to get fit 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,741
    James86 said:
    Darren Moore anyone?
    I think I’d bring back Curbs short term just to steady the ship. Majority will disagree. 
    Darren Moore ! Dream on. He's an intelligent man , why would he come to us?
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  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,666
    I don’t see Holden getting another job after us. Really don’t understand why these owners wanted him.
    Cheap.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,270
    As an aside, who on here was saying they weren't impressed with Oxford's recruitment in the summer? I argued they'd be right up there based on the players brought in, and it's early days but they look every part the team I thought they'd be
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,973
    They can sack the manager which would be the 4th in 4 seasons I believe.
    But why have we gone through that number of managers, what is the common denominator.
    The answer is owners who will not spend big early I'm preseason to get the best in early and having a squad that can deal with injuries.
    Instead they big up the youth and throw them to the lions.
  • JonT_Abs
    JonT_Abs Posts: 142
    That starting line up was horiffic and the result totally expected.

    Blows my mind how managers with all the badges and experience etc can't see the wood for the trees sometimes. 
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,188
    Maybe Holden's selection and tactics were deployed to make a point to Gobby Methven and absent Scott?

    Stick the kids in, get battered and then say "I told you so"?

    Even if they sack him, the squad needs a total overhaul - will take time.

    I am not even confident that this lot know how to recruit players for a L1 scrap.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,490
    Valley11 said:
    Yeah sack Holden then take a few weeks to find a new bloke, who won’t have picked any of the players signed this summer and will have ANOTHER different style of play.

    I cannot believe it but we are actually sinking lower. 
    What's our style of play currently? 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    I don’t see Holden getting another job after us. Really don’t understand why these owners wanted him.
    Cheap
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    James86 said:
    Darren Moore anyone?
    I think I’d bring back Curbs short term just to steady the ship. Majority will disagree. 
    Would Curbs want it? I'd definitely have him if he would.

    Easy to say sack Holden but, given the constraints we are acting under, hard to say who would do any better other than the likes of Curbs perhaps.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    You get back to 1-1, you don’t go chasing the game like your 3-2 down in April and needing a point for promotion, you manage the game out, and that management comes from the Head Coach. Squad issues aren’t the problem when the basics aren’t being done
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,188
    Talal said:
    Valley11 said:
    Yeah sack Holden then take a few weeks to find a new bloke, who won’t have picked any of the players signed this summer and will have ANOTHER different style of play.

    I cannot believe it but we are actually sinking lower. 
    What's our style of play currently? 
    Kick and hope accompanied by drop and panic