If we are looking to bring in half a dozen proven performers - other teams best players to get us out of this league - Brannagan from Oxford is who we should make nr 1 target in central midfield
Iirc he is their top earner by a mile and on about 15k a week. Would be a massive fee too. No chance
15k, did he tell you that himself? I'd be suprised if he was on more than 10.
There would be a fee involved, my guess would be around 200k.
If we are looking to bring in half a dozen proven performers - other teams best players to get us out of this league - Brannagan from Oxford is who we should make nr 1 target in central midfield
Iirc he is their top earner by a mile and on about 15k a week. Would be a massive fee too. No chance
15k, did he tell you that himself? I'd be suprised if he was on more than 10.
There would be a fee involved, my guess would be around 200k.
With the news of Dobbo now leaving confirmed, my big wish (after the imperious Piergianni) would be Brendan Wiredu now. Bring the lad home.
He can play as a centre back, anchor, box to box. I think he'd be an excellent Dobson replacement.
Also so happens to be Fleetwoods captain and we need a bit of leadership in the middle.
Seems like a no brainer move for me
As a versatile squad player yes, as Dobsons replacement I think we need better.
The aim should be to construct one of the best midfields in the league by signing 2 players to play with Coventry. Wiredu is a good player but I’m not sure he’s that elite level we need in the starting 11
Maybe someone like Greg Docherty (out of contract at Hull and been linked previously) and then if we did add Luke Berry that would be 3 quality midfielders that have played at higher levels than league 1
My thoughts exactly. He would be great to have as a squad player who can play multiple midfield roles and at CB in a back three. Played RB before as well obviously.
We need someone in midfield who has stature and physicality, and can also bring the ball forward. I just think we could do better than Wiredu. For me, that's going to be the hardest role to fill this summer. I think Pan Camara showed brief flashes when he was fit, but he was basically never fit. We tried Bakinson in that role and he's not quite quick enough, good enough on the ball, or a good enough passer for it. Dobbo played there some, did alright, but he's gone.
This might be one where we have to look at the loan market because it's going to be hard to find at this level. Brrannagan would be great but I have to think if he leaves Oxford he should be going to the Championship, and if he's not, then I would start to wonder if he's quite as good as some think (I've always considered him one of the best players in the league).
As for Bauer, I love that man, not just for Wembley, but for everything. A loan in January would have made sense, similar to what we did with Hector last season, get him in, see if he's fit enough, let him get some sharpness, then decide if you want to offer him a contract. But that didn't happen, and we just don't know how fit and sharp he will be. And unlike with other CBs, he can only play in the middle of a back three, and I think that's where Jones will be best deployed, and possibly the same for Gillesphey as well--I said all second half I just don't think he's mobile enough to play on the left in a transition-centric team, even if he is left footed. I wish Bauer could have a heroic comeback, we should have never let him leave on a free (him and Lockyer would have made for a good Championship CB duo), but I just can't see it.
You don’t become a successful side by buying players when they’re at their peak valuation.
Finding the player who will become as good as, if not better than, Brannagan in the next 2-3 years should be the goal.
A great point, and also it feels like we might need a couple of players who are already very good League One players to build around.
We shouldn't always compare things to previous Charlton sides who have won promotion, BUT, I do think 18/19 is a good example here--
1. You have established League One players--Bauer, Pearce, Pudders, Taylor, Pratley 2. You had young, exciting players with some League One experience who made big steps forward--Cullen, Aribo, Grant, Phillips, Sarr 3. And then you had young players who basically broke onto the scene and were excellent--Djiksteel and Bielek
To me these are the order of easiest to hardest to find (not necessarily sign). And what you're talking about I view as numbers 2 and especially 3. I think Anderson, Ramsay, Small, and Coventry are good bets to fill the second role next season. Miles as well if he stays and stays fit. Finding the third category oftentimes comes down to a young player breaking out massively, or getting a great loan signing in. Zach Mitchell is certainly worth keeping an eye on for that.
But for the first category, I feel like we have May, Gillesphey, REG, 10A, Edun, Fraser, McGrandles. And apart from May, I have questions about all of them to varying degrees. It just feels like, to me, we need one or two more of those. I think the goal was for REG and Gillesphey to be that, and they might, but neither impressed me enough last season to feel like they are nailed on top six League One players every week.
Regardless of their current contracts at Charlton, I wonder who Jones is looking to replace and push out the door. If May is 'potentially' on the list, probably everyone else, except maybe Leaburn is also on there.
Opinion: Charlton Athletic should eye loan-listed Blackburn Rovers man amid exit confirmations
That's a strange article. One, they are quoting Alan Nixon, the bloke is rarely right about Charlton. Two, it's a loan, from what i've read Nathan preferably likes perms.
Opinion: Charlton Athletic should eye loan-listed Blackburn Rovers man amid exit confirmations
That's a strange article. One, they are quoting Alan Nixon, the bloke is rarely right about Charlton. Two, it's a loan, from what i've read Nathan preferably likes perms.
He did state in the run up to the end of season, that if he is going to sign Loanees they have to be considerably better than what we have.
I'd guess he won't want to waste budget on players that aren't ours and aren't starters.
Opinion: Charlton Athletic should eye loan-listed Blackburn Rovers man amid exit confirmations
That's a strange article. One, they are quoting Alan Nixon, the bloke is rarely right about Charlton. Two, it's a loan, from what i've read Nathan preferably likes perms.
He did state in the run up to the end of season, that if he is going to sign Loanees they have to be considerably better than what we have.
I'd guess he won't want to waste budget on players that aren't ours and aren't starters.
Looking at what he's done in the past, in 22/23 his only loan signing was Ethan Horvath in goal who played 44 games. He also weirdly loaned three goalkeepers in 2021/22 who played a total of 7 games between them. He somehow managed to use 6 keepers that season and only used Isted twice so he must really, really hate AMB. In 2020/21 he made a few more loan signings; Dewsbury-Hall (36 starts, 3 sub apps), Norrington-Davies (16 starts but recalled in Jan), Sam Nombe (1 start, 10 sub apps) and in January he got Tom Ince (3 starts, 4 sub apps). So 50/50 first team and backups there. Looking further back beyond that it does feel like he's turned on the loan system over time, though part of it as well could be the recent trend of teams asking for loan fees and bigger wage contributions than they used to.
I'd forgotten all about Nombe! The one who was about to sign last summer according to a few.
Just checked, 3 goals in 41 for Rotherham (and 0 in 6 for Exeter in L1 before that).
Wonder if he'll fare better for them back in L1?
I think he will be quite handy in league 1 with Steve Evans. Think he’s quite a similar mould to Jamie Reid who did so well for Evans this season. Though Reid might end up signing there as well as I think there will be at least a couple of Stevange to Rotherham movers this summer
@JiMMy 85 with Harrison Male leaving DW, do you think he has the potential to play in league 1? Clearly too good for national league.
His all round game is definitely worthy - his handling and distribution are better than anything else I've seen at that level, and he's excellent in one-on-one situations. Easily the best keeper DW have had in my time there. As Marcus said, his height counts against him although he pointed out to me he's half an inch shorter than Victor Valdes and a shade taller than Barthez, so it shouldn't necessarily be a showstopper.
It certainly wasn't an issue as one might expect - didn't concede from corners etc. and was never bullied by big strikers, even if they tried. I have heard an argument that his lack of reach might have cost DW a few goals, but it's not something that I noticed. Especially given how many he prevented.
Ultimately I do think he will need to prove himself in the fourth tier before anyone gives him a chance.
@JiMMy 85 with Harrison Male leaving DW, do you think he has the potential to play in league 1? Clearly too good for national league.
His all round game is definitely worthy - his handling and distribution are better than anything else I've seen at that level, and he's excellent in one-on-one situations. Easily the best keeper DW have had in my time there. As Marcus said, his height counts against him although he pointed out to me he's half an inch shorter than Victor Valdes and a shade taller than Barthez, so it shouldn't necessarily be a showstopper.
It certainly wasn't an issue as one might expect - didn't concede from corners etc. and was never bullied by big strikers, even if they tried. I have heard an argument that his lack of reach might have cost DW a few goals, but it's not something that I noticed. Especially given how many he prevented.
Ultimately I do think he will need to prove himself in the fourth tier before anyone gives him a chance.
Yeah I was never unduly bothered by his height, I just don't know how an EFL club would view it. I think a season in League 2 in a side that plays to his strengths would be ideal.
Charlton Athletic: Raiding Lincoln City can secure double promotion boost for Nathan Jones
- Lukas Jensen - Ben Hamer - Luke Southwood - Sol Brynn - Corey Addai
Corey Addai would be a very interesting team. He’s got the highest save rate in League Two, similar to us, Crawley have been a bit chaotic at the back
I didn’t know much about Addai other than him being statistically by far the best shot-stopper in league 2 this season. From 10 minutes watching him on TV I can also add that he is absolutely huge but also very involved in possession. Definitely looks like he could be a good singing
1. Used to be at a club where Nathan Jones has been.
2. Ex player.
3. Player where his family is local to Charlton.
Why not just buy the best players available/affordable.
I find that previous links to managers are always interesting when researching potential signings.
We have already seen this with Nathan bringing in Lua Lua and Small ( think Ramsay left Saints before Jones arrived).
I am keen on some ex players like Wiredu who are academy products who have blossomed elsewhere.
In terms of geography this has also worked in our favour recently. Alfie May wanted to move back to the SEL/Kent area and both Coventry and Edmonds Green were keen on London moves . We also lost Scott Fraser because he is keen to move back to Scotland. Therefore location is important and can mean we get a better quality player or lose someone if their family is up north.
The other criteria seems to be players who do well against us. This also seems to have produced a mixed bag of outcomes.
1. Used to be at a club where Nathan Jones has been.
2. Ex player.
3. Player where his family is local to Charlton.
Why not just buy the best players available/affordable.
They're just the more obvious signings so the basis for rumours.
Plus Jones seems to want/need at least a certain degree of "buying in" from prospective players so it does actually make sense he'd at least consider previous players who have prior success in the "Jones method."
Not that we should, would or will EXCLUSIVELY target players he's had before but Jones does seem to get loyalty from a certain amount of previous players.
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Charlton Athletic: Raiding Lincoln City can secure double promotion boost for Nathan Jones
- Ben Hamer
- Luke Southwood
- Sol Brynn
- Corey Addai
Opinion: Charlton Athletic should eye loan-listed Blackburn Rovers man amid exit confirmations
We need someone in midfield who has stature and physicality, and can also bring the ball forward. I just think we could do better than Wiredu. For me, that's going to be the hardest role to fill this summer. I think Pan Camara showed brief flashes when he was fit, but he was basically never fit. We tried Bakinson in that role and he's not quite quick enough, good enough on the ball, or a good enough passer for it. Dobbo played there some, did alright, but he's gone.
This might be one where we have to look at the loan market because it's going to be hard to find at this level. Brrannagan would be great but I have to think if he leaves Oxford he should be going to the Championship, and if he's not, then I would start to wonder if he's quite as good as some think (I've always considered him one of the best players in the league).
As for Bauer, I love that man, not just for Wembley, but for everything. A loan in January would have made sense, similar to what we did with Hector last season, get him in, see if he's fit enough, let him get some sharpness, then decide if you want to offer him a contract. But that didn't happen, and we just don't know how fit and sharp he will be. And unlike with other CBs, he can only play in the middle of a back three, and I think that's where Jones will be best deployed, and possibly the same for Gillesphey as well--I said all second half I just don't think he's mobile enough to play on the left in a transition-centric team, even if he is left footed. I wish Bauer could have a heroic comeback, we should have never let him leave on a free (him and Lockyer would have made for a good Championship CB duo), but I just can't see it.
We shouldn't always compare things to previous Charlton sides who have won promotion, BUT, I do think 18/19 is a good example here--
1. You have established League One players--Bauer, Pearce, Pudders, Taylor, Pratley
2. You had young, exciting players with some League One experience who made big steps forward--Cullen, Aribo, Grant, Phillips, Sarr
3. And then you had young players who basically broke onto the scene and were excellent--Djiksteel and Bielek
To me these are the order of easiest to hardest to find (not necessarily sign). And what you're talking about I view as numbers 2 and especially 3. I think Anderson, Ramsay, Small, and Coventry are good bets to fill the second role next season. Miles as well if he stays and stays fit. Finding the third category oftentimes comes down to a young player breaking out massively, or getting a great loan signing in. Zach Mitchell is certainly worth keeping an eye on for that.
But for the first category, I feel like we have May, Gillesphey, REG, 10A, Edun, Fraser, McGrandles. And apart from May, I have questions about all of them to varying degrees. It just feels like, to me, we need one or two more of those. I think the goal was for REG and Gillesphey to be that, and they might, but neither impressed me enough last season to feel like they are nailed on top six League One players every week.
David Watson, Lyall Cameron, Will Dennis, Jordan McGhee, Ryan Leak, Caolan Boyd-Munce, Blair Spittal, Thelonius Bair.
I'd guess he won't want to waste budget on players that aren't ours and aren't starters.
I hope Ryan Leak isn't a goalkeeper.
In 2020/21 he made a few more loan signings; Dewsbury-Hall (36 starts, 3 sub apps), Norrington-Davies (16 starts but recalled in Jan), Sam Nombe (1 start, 10 sub apps) and in January he got Tom Ince (3 starts, 4 sub apps). So 50/50 first team and backups there. Looking further back beyond that it does feel like he's turned on the loan system over time, though part of it as well could be the recent trend of teams asking for loan fees and bigger wage contributions than they used to.
Just checked, 3 goals in 41 for Rotherham (and 0 in 6 for Exeter in L1 before that).
Wonder if he'll fare better for them back in L1?
It certainly wasn't an issue as one might expect - didn't concede from corners etc. and was never bullied by big strikers, even if they tried. I have heard an argument that his lack of reach might have cost DW a few goals, but it's not something that I noticed. Especially given how many he prevented.
Ultimately I do think he will need to prove himself in the fourth tier before anyone gives him a chance.
Yeah I was never unduly bothered by his height, I just don't know how an EFL club would view it. I think a season in League 2 in a side that plays to his strengths would be ideal.
Two young attacking players with big futures.
1. Used to be at a club where Nathan Jones has been.
2. Ex player.
3. Player where his family is local to Charlton.
Why not just buy the best players available/affordable.
We have already seen this with Nathan bringing in Lua Lua and Small ( think Ramsay left Saints before Jones arrived).
I am keen on some ex players like Wiredu who are academy products who have blossomed elsewhere.
In terms of geography this has also worked in our favour recently. Alfie May wanted to move back to the SEL/Kent area and both Coventry and Edmonds Green were keen on London moves . We also lost Scott Fraser because he is keen to move back to Scotland. Therefore location is important and can mean we get a better quality player or lose someone if their family is up north.
The other criteria seems to be players who do well against us. This also seems to have produced a mixed bag of outcomes.
Not that we should, would or will EXCLUSIVELY target players he's had before but Jones does seem to get loyalty from a certain amount of previous players.